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Category:Klark Kent albums

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:36, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: It's not about Klark Kent the German graffiti artist but the Police drummer —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:45, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1988 Births

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 21:47, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Mis-capitalized name. Shows up in HotCat. Bamyers99 (talk) 22:42, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Woodkid albums

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The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 17:59, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Same artist, different name. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:37, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Woodkid category: It is true that the article is titled Yoann Lemoine (his real name), but virtually all his musical output, meaning singles, EPs and albums are published as Woodkid and the media refer to him as Woodkid. I even attended a concert in Montreal and all media referred to him as Woodkid. See also for example his releases Iron EP or The Golden Age. Same for his singles. See for example "I Love You"... He retains the real name Yoann Lemoine for his designing and directing works though which is a totally different domain. So as far as the article on him was concerned, we preferred to keep his real name and not change it to Woodkid as he has important non-musical career as well. But to my mind, it would be highly unusual to categorize his musical materials like The Golden Age for example as a Yoann Lemoine album or "I Love You" as a Yoann Lemoine single. It would clearly be advantageous to keep the category as Woodkid albums, Woodkid songs unless he suddenly starts releasing his next musical materials as Lemoine... 23:04, 23 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Werldwayd (talk • contribs)
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Category:Bat roosts in England

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The result of the discussion was: listify and delete. – Fayenatic London 18:04, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Convert Category:Bat roosts in England to article List of bat roosts
Convert Category:Bat roosts of the United Kingdom to article List of bat roosts
Convert Category:Bat roosts of Jamaica to article List of bat roosts
Convert Category:Bat roosts of the United States to article List of bat roosts
Nominator's rationale: These categories contain few articles actually about bat roosts - the articles are mostly about places (e.g. Comfort, Ebbor Gorge, Publow), mines (e.g. Grandview Mine), caves (e.g. Boho Caves), buildings (e.g. Tyntesfield) and bridges (e.g. Wharncliffe Viaduct). We don't normally categorize towns, houses, structures etc by what wildlife they contain as it's generally a WP:NON-DEFINING characteristic of such places (e.g. we don't have a "Towns with urban foxes" category).
There are afaics currently only 2 articles in these categories actually about bat roosts (Hygieostatic Bat Roost and Sugarloaf Key Bat Tower) - these should be moved (upmerged) to Category:Bat roosts and Category:Bats of the United States. DexDor (talk) 20:15, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional British people by ethnicity

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The result of the discussion was: rename, as there was no consensus to delete, and the "Oppose" votes apart from one were only opposing deletion. – Fayenatic London 03:02, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Fictional British people by ethnicity to Category:Fictional British people by ethnic or national origin
Nominator's rationale: Consistent with Category:British people by ethnic or national origin parent category, Category:Fictional American people by ethnic or national origin, etc. --76.175.67.121 (talk) 17:58, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's entirely artificial, you do understand that? If ethnicity is treated a purely artificial construct that calls all the "real" ones into question. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 16:46, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • By your reasoning, if this is being singled out for deletion, then why not the entire Category:Fictional characters by ethnicity or nationality tree? --76.175.67.121 (talk) 15:53, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Once this goes, the others can be nominated as well. If they all get nominated in the first place, then there's more confusion and discussion over the propriety of a mass deletion vs. a trial balloon than on the real substance. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:29, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional doctors

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Fictional physicians, noting that Category:Fictional surgeons already exists. Category:Fictional medical doctors can be a redirect. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:21, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Being more inclusive is better then creating more categories. --76.175.67.121 (talk) 17:44, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment From my NZ English perspective there are two main groups of medical professionals: physicians and surgeons. Renaming this to just physicians would immediately exclude the surgical sub-category. Looking at the other sub-categories in the current category, there are dentists and vetinarians and Doctor Who incarnations, none of these properly belong in a physicians category.

If the primary intention of this category is collect medical practitioners, then it definitely needs renaming as characters such as Bunsen Honeydew are currently in it, which demonstrates confusion of the term "doctor" between the common word for medical practitioners and those who hold a doctoral qualification. A few characters, e.g. Dr. Watson, are both. If we go with the target in the main proposal, then something needs to be done about the members who are not medical doctors, who potentially range across the full gamut of academia. It may be that the best option for them will be to sort them to categories such as Category:Fictional scientists, Category:Fictional linguists, and Category:Fictional theologians. The current category can't stay as a redirect to either of the proposed targets as they will inevitably gather articles that don't belong. It should be salted to prevent well-meaning recreation. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:03, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep in mind that Category:Fictional medical personnel already exists as a container category for medical science professions. --76.175.67.121 (talk) 15:57, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Images of comics characters

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. – Fayenatic London 09:12, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category. All images are already included in Category:Images from comics. Fortdj33 (talk) 14:35, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Looks useful to me since not every image from a comic is of a character. Several images in the top level cat could usefully be subcategorised and removed from the top level. GDallimore (Talk) 15:26, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Greek people from Alexandria

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The result of the discussion was: double upmerge to Category:People from Alexandria and Category:Egyptian people of Greek descent. I suggest the nominator might write an article about this community and its influence, which would belong within Category:Ethnic groups by city. The article could include a list of notable people and their roles within the community. However, we do not categorise individual biographies in this way (intersection of city and ethnic background), at least not for modern times. – Fayenatic London 09:55, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: As far as I can tell, there is no other category structure for people by ethnic group by city, it is simply "Person from X". Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:26, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose, this category is meant to group the Alexandrian Greek community, which is (or rather used to be) a very distinct group, with an important role in modern Greek culture and history from the late 19th century until Nasser's nationalization policies in the fifites and sixties which drove most of them away. They are clearly distinct from Ancient Alexandrian Greeks, as well as from the bulk of the modern city's Egyptian population. It is analogous to Category:Greek people from Istanbul (which is rather underpopulated at the moment). Constantine ✍ 12:37, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And should also be deleted. Please show the project why this standalone category is important. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:09, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Did you read my reply? It is a very specific and distinct group of people who have a unique identity and history, one very much different from that of the local dominant culture, meaning it is misleading to lump them together indiscriminately. "Alexandrian Greeks" is just as valid a category as "Greek people in X country" or "Greek Fooians", but because the name would connote the ancient rather than the modern period, I went with the current name. Constantine ✍ 19:52, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Where the history of an ethnic group has become intertwined with a city or region, it makes sense to categorise in this manner. The Greek diaspora in formerly Greek cities are a perfect example of this as the experience of being Greek from that city profoundly affects the group's history. The broader Category:Ethnic groups by city covers this idea more in-depth (and in many less-culturally relevant ways than the nominated category). Things like Category:Portuguese people of Goan descent are effectively doing the same thing in a slightly different way. SFB 19:31, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, the full descriptive form would be "Modern Alexandrian Greeks", so ethnic and time-based both. For some further context, the Greeks settled in Alexandria as part of the European colonization of Egypt, and were very much part of colonial, not mainstream Egyptian, society, which is why the community declined rapidly after the fifites. I am open as to suggestions for renaming, but the topic is worthy of a category of its own. Constantine ✍ 11:01, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

*Upmerge to Category:Greek people from Egypt if not kept. I am not sure if just Alexandria or all Egypt is best, but to wipe out the categorization of these as Greeks in a specific place would be as bad as destroying Category:Egyptian Jews.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:01, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:User:ThinkLordUK

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 21:51, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. A "user category", which are routinely deleted as an unnecessary expansion of user space into category space. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:50, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Inactive South Korean girl groups

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:17, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. We do not generally split categories according to status (such as "active", "inactive", "current" etc.). Rockysmile11 (talk) 04:40, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Active South Korean girl groups

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:16, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. We do not generally split categories according to status (such as "active", "inactive", "current" etc.). Rockysmile11 (talk) 04:38, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Westchester County, New York by town

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The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic London 08:43, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant categorization. All these town categories are already categorized as 'People from Westchester County, New York' ...William 01:13, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Um ... I don't quite understand. It's only a metacategory, meant to make it easier to look through. It shouldn't contain any articles. Daniel Case (talk) 02:32, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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