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Category:Anatolian Roman Catholic saints

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:13, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge. In quite a big sample of this category I didn't find "Roman Catholic" to be a defining characteristic. Apparently these are mostly "general Christian" saints from Anatolia. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Private colleges under licence

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:12, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename per x of y, to match parent categories. It is my understanding that all private colleges in Canada require some sort of provincial licence to operate, making the qualification that they have such a licence unnecessary. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:50, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Russian Orthodox saints

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Russian saints of the Eastern Orthodox Church, etc. – Fayenatic London 14:51, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename in order to disambiguate between saints of the Russian Orthodox Church and saints from Russian Orthodox nationality, thus scoping this category to the latter. This is C2C to Category:Eastern Orthodox saints from Greece. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:23, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The latter four nominations and the alternative rename added 28 February. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:19, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Johnpacklambert: This may be a matter of misunderstanding, I'm not sure. The idea is to rename to only one of the two alternative renames, whereas I'm neutral in the choice between either one of them. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:13, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Saints of Late Roman Epirus

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 13:08, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, only one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:32, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Moldovan Orthodox Christians

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:11, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename per actual content, all 4 articles are bishops. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:45, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Eastern Orthodox Christians from Moldova

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:06, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete with no prejudice against restarting the category from scratch. The number of articles in this category is huge in comparison to any other category in Category:Eastern Orthodox Christians by nationality and it seems like every Moldavian biography in WP has been added to this category. Based on a sample, most articles do not contain any information about the person being Eastern Orthodox Christian. Thus WP:NONDEF and WP:OVERLAPCAT apply. The best way to proceed is probably to delete this category and to start it all over again. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:32, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Imperial Russian people by religion

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The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic London 14:53, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge, trivial intersection between the larger part of Russian history and religion. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:49, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Initially I had the same concern. But then I thought, how can anyone ever imagine that rabbis are Russian Orthodox Christians? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:53, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Still sounds odd - and is whether a rabbi is orthodox or not defining? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:15, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is common to categorize biographies by the intersection of religious conviction and nationality or ethnicity - but not by the intersection of religious conviction and country. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:58, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • We categorize by the intersection of religion and country subject to. We very, very, very rarely categorize by the intersection of religion and ethnicity. For example Category:Native American Latter Day Saints was deleted. It was not a size issue, since there were more articles in it that many religion by country people are nationals of categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:24, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are about 10 ethnicities so categorized. There are over 100 categorizations of religion by country. This shows the primary intersection is between religion and country, not religion and ethnicity.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:55, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Taking this reasoning a step further, it would imply that we would also need to categorize people by religion separately if they are from England (kingdom<=17th century) or Scotland (kingdom<=17th century) or Great Britain (kingdom 18th century) or United Kingdom (kingdom 19th-20th century). That's not the way we do it currently and I would also not really favor going this way. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:38, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Russian religious figures

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:05, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete. "Figure" is not a defining characteristic and there is no tree for "figures". No need to upmerge this category, because the 6 articles are already in one or more appropriate religious categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:52, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Film writers

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Writers on film. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:10, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Film writers to Category:Writers about film (or Category:Writers on film per alternate suggestion in the discussion?)
Nominator's rationale: Rename. The problem here is one of ambiguity. As constituted, this was intended for people who write non-fiction work about film and cinema, such as film historians or film critics, but I suspect it won't surprise anyone that I just had to clean it up for a sizable contingent of misfiled screenwriters. The usage note is thus ineffective at ensuring that the category doesn't get misused — so we should rename it to something more unambiguously descriptive of its intended use and less likely to be confused with Category:Screenwriters. (For the record, the most seemingly parallel category to this, Category:Television writers, is used for writers of television programming rather than writers of non-fiction work about television.) Bearcat (talk) 08:09, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't object to that proposal either, if it's more consistent with the way parallel "writers by subject" categories are named. I'm not wedded to the specific wording that I proposed, as long as we do something to fix the ambiguity. That said, it's not entirely true that we have no "writers by subject" categories that are using the "about" wording, as we do have Category:Writers about activism and social change and Category:Writers about communism — but you are correct that "on" is used more often in that tree than "about" is. Bearcat (talk) 21:36, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, you're right I did miss that. Well, I'll register a support for a rename, to either of the alternatives preferred by consensus, or lacking any consensus, to the initial nomination using "about". Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:40, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral on the issue of "on" versus " about". Marcocapelle (talk) 18:12, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Minor planets formerly to be visited by spacecraft

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (If anyone is interested in listifying, you can contact me to find out what the contents of the category were.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:45, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: That some "minor planets have been proposed as potential targets for space probes" is a WP:NON-DEFINING characteristic of a planet - as well as being (out of date) speculation. This may be suitable for a list, but few/none of the articles in the category mention this characteristic in the article text. DexDor (talk) 07:01, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Water in the North Pole

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:04, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Only contains the page North Pole, which is adequately categorised and does not need to be in Category:Water by continent. – Fayenatic London 00:16, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It occurs to me that the category creator may have mixed up "North Pole" with "Arctic." If so, I'd point out that we do have Category:Environment of the Arctic, which contains many climate change-related articles and no doubt will contain more. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:44, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Right, while South Pole is in a continent, North Pole is located in the middle of the Arctic and is not a continent. So must be replaced in Category:Water in the Arctic. There is a difference between the sweet and the salt water in the Artic and this category can be centered in this sweet water (soon disappearing). --Lagoset (talk) 15:11, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • North Pole is not a continent, it is an intercontinental and a polar region. Antarctica is a continent and also a polar region. The Arctic is defined as the area near the North Pole. It is an intercountry land, because there joins Russia, Canada, European Union (Denmark, Sweden and Finland), Norway, Iceland and USA. Because of global warming there is a dispute between Canada and the EU and a problem with petroleum exploration in the Arctic and reclaming longer protected areas. Now, knowing more about the Arctic and North Pole, water is important as reflects the main problems in this polar region. But category can be included in a polar water or similar category, because Arctic is not effectively a continent, compared with Antarctica, but yes a polar region.--Lagoset (talk) 19:28, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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