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Category:Albanians from the Ottoman Empire

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The result of the discussion was: rename/merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 00:19, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Standard is FOOIAN people, not FOOIANS, in addition, the two child categories are overlapping Mason (talk) 21:38, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Assyrian/Syriac Palestinians

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Bougainvillean Roman Catholic priests

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 00:02, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The only content of this long string of empty categories is ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Bougainvillean Roman Catholic priests, which contains two articles. This hurts more than it helps in terms of navigation. My proposal is to merge to the nearest non-empty parent in every direction. Place Clichy (talk) 20:45, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Seems reasonable. Mason (talk) 21:29, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Companies of insular areas of the United States by city

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Category:Universities and colleges in insular areas of the United States by city

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow • talk 12:09, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layer. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:40, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Right of foreigners to vote

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Non-citizen suffrage. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 00:03, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename category to match the parent article, Non-citizen suffrage. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 20:22, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Festivals in Puerto Rico by city

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Festivals in Puerto Rico. No consensus to merge to Category:Festivals in the United States by populated place. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:34, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Many unnecessary layers. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:57, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose merging Category:Festivals in Puerto Rico by city to Category:Festivals in the United States by city.
Puerto Rico is, by definition, not IN the United States, therefore the merging of Puerto Rico festivals with United States festivals would incorrectly depict Puerto Rico as being IN the United States. If Puerto Rico is not IN the United States (which it is not) then a festival in Puerto Rico could not possibly be a festival IN the United States either. Only festivals in the 50 states and DC can be categorized as festivals in the United States. Mercy11 (talk) 23:14, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Festivals in insular areas of the United States by city

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:37, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Festivals in insular areas of the United States by city (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Unnecessary layers. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:57, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tanzanian physicians

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Tanzanian medical doctors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WT:XFDC (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow • talk 12:10, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: overlapping category Mason (talk) 19:50, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Participants in John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:45, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename per WP:C2D, the article is at John Brown's raiders. This was opposed for speedy. If this nomination leads to an RM in order to move the article, by all means follow the outcome of the RM. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:05, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
copy of speedy discussion
@Namiba and Smasongarrison: pinging participants in speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:11, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I don't think the proposed category title is informative without the Harper's Ferry context. Mason (talk) 19:51, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Mason, Mason, per below, a name change can be proposed once the article and category match.--User:Namiba 13:00, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Parthians

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:42, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category while Category:Parthia and Category:Parthian Empire already exist. The only article is in all three categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:37, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
copy of speedy discussion
@Smasongarrison: pinging initiator of speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. per nom Mason (talk) 19:52, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians experiencing stress

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:42, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for lacking any discernible collaborative function, compare Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/User/Archive/July 2007#Category:Wikipedians by wikistress level. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:53, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Latin-language writers

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:39, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: moving to full discussion after waiting for on Texts in Fooian. Now all are in the format of "writers in Latin". Mason (talk) 15:57, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Nederlandse Leeuw and @Srnec Mason (talk) 16:05, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
copy of speedy rename discussion
Moving opposed speedy Latin-language writers from Poland
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Category:20th-century sportspeople by nationality

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Category:British Columbia Liberal Party politicians

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The result of the discussion was: rename "British Columbia Liberal Party foo" to "BC United foo". (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:41, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Party changed its name from "British Columbia Liberal Party" to "BC United" earlier this year, but renaming of the associated categories was not undertaken at that time. This has crossed the line into editors actively trying to move articles into redlinked replacement categories for BC United in advance of any BC United categories actually existing, which obviously isn't acceptable -- the BC United categories have to exist before they can be used, which means that the existing categories have to be renamed first. Bearcat (talk) 14:13, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom Mason (talk) 16:05, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Brawand family

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:House of Reginar. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:39, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only has two pages in it Mason (talk) 14:04, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Small families

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The result of the discussion was: delete all. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:39, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: small cat without a corresponding eponymous article about the family Mason (talk) 13:50, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Innovators, part 2

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The result of the discussion was: delete all. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:38, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_September_22#Category:Innovators, where the rest of the Innovators categories were deleted. – Fayenatic London 08:53, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sheikh Mansur Movement

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Category:19th-century Albanian military personnel

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Category:19th-century Albanian men

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The result of the discussion was: delete all of them as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:37, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one or two subcategories each. The subcategories are already part of the "by occupation" tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. per nom. Mason (talk) 13:33, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People by ethnicity and nationality

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:39, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support as Category:Jews is already in the Category:People by ethnicity category. Mason (talk) 16:23, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People of the Kingdom of Jerusalem

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:People from the Kingdom of Jerusalem. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:36, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: From country/nationality, not of country/nationality Mason (talk) 03:22, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer subsidiaries

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Category:Immigrants to the Kingdom of Scotland

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:39, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: underpopulated, overlapping category Mason (talk) 02:25, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:20th-century musicians from the Russian Empire

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:20th-century Russian musicians. Uncontroversial. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow • talk 12:14, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: overlapping category Mason (talk) 01:55, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:English diplomats

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Category:People by ethnicity or nationality

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The result of the discussion was: split to Category:People by ethnicity and Category:People by nationality. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:40, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merging Category:People by ethnicity or nationality to Category:People by ethnicity and nationality
Nominator's rationale: It seems that @AHI-3000 emptied the ethnicity and nationality categories Mason (talk) 21:38, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz FYI, I think that this family of categories was emptied out of turn. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:People_by_ethnicity_and_nationality&diff=cur] Mason (talk) 21:39, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay I'm just confused, why did you empty both categories? AHI-3000 (talk) 22:17, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I *tried to* restore the categories to their previous state. If you wanted to get rid of a category, you need to nominate it for deletion, not just remove all the items in it. Mason (talk) 23:41, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:37, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ethnic Albanian people

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Category:Henry Danger

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow • talk 12:18, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A category or template needs at least a dozen links to be useful. I don't see anything useful coming from having this category or its subcategory with so little links. Amaury • 08:31, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. So how do you propose a reader finds related article? Scan through the article to find any relevant links? This is exactly what a category is for. Gonnym (talk) 12:21, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This category meets all the size requirements for Smallcat. The norm is 5, not 12. Mason (talk) 12:24, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. It isn't that difficult for a small universe like this. There are links for a reason. Besides which, they are all technically different series. Just because size requirements may technically be met doesn't mean it's warranted. It's the reason WP:UNDUE exists. Just because there's some sort of statement that is covered by a reliable source doesn't automatically mean it merits inclusion in Article Y. For example, if an actor departs from a series, the exact details belong on the actor's article, not the series' article. You can mention the actor left the series on the series' page, but anything else beyond that belongs on the actor article. In this case, common sense must also be used. Are size requirements technically met? Yes. Is there any use for such a small category? No. Also note that WP:SMALLCAT is a guideline, not a policy. It's not a hard top-down rule that must be absolutely followed every time. Amaury • 09:07, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Such a large wall of text to talk about something completely unrelated. UNDUE is really irrelevant here. Also, if your argument that a relevant guideline should be ignored because it isn't a policy, you should really have at least something better than a personal opionion (your deletion argument does not cite a policy nor a guideline...). Gonnym (talk) 16:24, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know where you're from, but that is by no means a wall of text. My response was perfectly related to this and relevant. The WP:UNDUE example was perfectly relevant. The specific page is WP:GUIDES, which states: Editors should attempt to follow guidelines, though they are best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply. Emphasis mine. However, citing a policy or even a guideline is not required to nominate a category or template for deletion. I've gotten support for deletion of categories and templates in the past from other users without citing a specific guideline or policy, and the categories or templates were subsequently deleted. I'm not saying you shouldn't cite something, but it's not required. Amaury • 19:53, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It really isn't. Re-read WP:UNDUE not only does it not talk about categories, but the entire page talks about a neutral point of view (hence Wikipedia:Neutral point of view). So yeah, completely irrelevant argument and nomination that not only cites nothing relevant, but ignores actual relevant guidelines. Gonnym (talk) 08:02, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Needs a third opinion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:07, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just to comment on the re-list. You had 3 opinions (nom, Mason, myself). A better wording would have been "more opinions". Gonnym (talk) 08:04, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Teen films

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