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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 9, 2016.

Draft:Carolina Werner

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The result of the discussion was restore. This is typical for content that has been unilaterally redirected and then immediately nominated for RfD. -- Tavix (talk) 01:32, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Non-English draft now directed to existing article; redirect page no longer needed --Another Believer (Talk) 23:31, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Appropriateness

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The result of the discussion was delete. It appears nothing has changed from the previous discussion. -- Tavix (talk) 21:58, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

This is sort of a procedural nomination since both of these redirects were deleted as the result of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 November 24#Appropriateness. However, with the way they were recreated (as redirects to Norm (social)), it's not 100% clear to me if these redirects would qualify for speedy deletion criterion G4. With that being said, since the were recreated and since consensus at the previous discussion led to deletion, without actually deleting the redirects, I targeted both to their respective Wiktionary entries. Anyways, with that being said, my "official" stance on this is "delete both per previous consensus". Steel1943 (talk) 21:58, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Georgia!

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The result of the discussion was delete! -- Tavix (talk) 18:32, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Georgia isn't typically referred to with an exclamation point. BDD (talk) 21:04, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Donnie Trump

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The result of the discussion was keep. The rough consensus is that the "list of nicknames" article is not an appropriate retarget. There's been a good discussion about whether these might more plausibly refer to Donald Jr. instead, but "keep" appears to be the most plausible outcome. Deryck C. 14:30, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Obscure synonym. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 05:58, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Donald Trump has been referred to in some parodies as "Donnie Trump". He has also been referred to in other parodies as "The Trumpster", which also redirects to his page on Wikipedia. Captain Cornwall (talk) 17:22, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • I oppose a retargeting there. That list isn't for common name variations like this one. It's for unique and creative nicknames such as "Father of the Constitution", "Old Hickory", and "Tippecanoe". -- Tavix (talk) 19:08, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Yes, I don't doubt that that the name has been used by Jr., which makes sense. However, my search showed more usage as a diminutive for Sr. so it should point to Sr. I can't imagine someone being surprised by the target, and there's plenty of linkage to Jr. in case that's who someone is looking for. -- Tavix (talk) 17:12, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:FILMOGRAPHY

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The result of the discussion was Keep (non-admin closure) - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The target is now marked as an essay. The redirect page must redirect to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists of works#Filmographies, an MOS guideline. George Ho (talk) 03:53, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Muslimites

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The result of the discussion was no consensus, default to keep all. There are a number of "delete all but" comments which disagree on which ones we should keep. Overall, most of the redirects have been discussed specifically by one or more comments, but I don't see strong consensus regarding any of them. No prejudice against unbundled renomination if someone has a new argument. Deryck C. 14:27, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. These combinations were all created on the same day, 5 September 2014, by the same user, User:Digaarsemn, whose only contributions to Wikipedia were redirects created on that day, except for one edit to Jewellery made on the day before. Some are reasonable, e.g. Muslimist is a reasonable alternative to Islamist, but these ones I think are rather stretching it. We don't have churchgoer, for example, so if we can manage without that, I think we can manage without mosquegoer. Si Trew (talk) 01:31, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'll split them out if you want, it's always a bit subjective to know when to group these things. I did indeed split out some others, but felt these were safe to take together. Si Trew (talk) 07:41, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not that worried about it. I'd much rather keep redirects with marginal utility than delete useful redirects. I trust Patar's research so I'd err on the side of keeping them in this instance. -- Tavix (talk) 15:30, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: "Mosquegoer" and "Masjidgoer" are indeed mentioned at Muslim, but they sound farfetched. Does anyone have access to the print sources cited for them? I would expect those terms, if used, to indicate a practicing Muslim, i.e., one who regularly attends a mosque/masjid, and not necessarily all Muslims. Certainly "churchgoers" implies a smaller set of people than "Christians".
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Malia Obama Biography

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 18:30, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely disambiguation/ search term. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:16, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Apologies, deleted in error; now restored. SarahSV (talk) 19:33, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Whiskey Jack

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The result of the discussion was retarget to grey jay (which has already been carried out by the nominator). -- Tavix (talk) 17:07, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I just moved the page formerly at this title to whiskeyjack (disambiguation) to standardize links. There is no need to have a separate-caps redirect from Whiskey Jack pointing to a different target from whiskey jack, so this page-move redirect should be deleted. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:18, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be, other editors have made that assessment, and this solution would be fine (I've preemptively retargeted for consistency with whiskey jack pending the outcome of this discussion). I proposed deletion instead because we already have whiskey jack as a redirect to grey jay, and since the name is not typically capitalized and the search engine handles capitalization variants, the alternate capitalization redirect is functionally redundant, so it's just a maintenance issue to keep it. There aren't any targets as far as I know for capitalized "Whiskey Jack" which would be different from the current treatment. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:39, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Dipangkorn Rasmijoti, Crown Prince of Thailand

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 18#Dipangkorn Rasmijoti, Crown Prince of Thailand

Wakey

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 17:03, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Was previously a redirect to sleep inertia, a term for which I can't find any serious support, and now it's an equally implausible redirect to Wakefield. I can't imagine which group of readers this redirect is supposed to serve. Slashme (talk) 11:38, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment consider my vote as a Keep if "Wakey" is introduced in the article itself. Bonus points if it's cited --Lenticel (talk) 08:48, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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China Television System

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Premiership of William Cavendish-Bentinck, 3rd Duke of Portland

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by nominator (non-admin closure). --Nevé–selbert 01:42, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:G7. No incoming links and low stats. --Nevé–selbert 03:30, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Buildings

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The result of the discussion was delete as unopposed. -- Tavix (talk) 02:06, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My issue here is perhaps a technical fix that I don't understand: this doesn't seem to have the desired effect of placing a deletion discussion on the Architecture page. And if it can't be fixed, it's completely useless and even counterproductive -- because it gives the user the false impression that it has. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:35, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Shawn in Montreal: This is the correct venue. Project namespace redirects are actually discussed here fairly often.— Godsy (TALKCONT) 08:55, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Great. And I see that you're a template editor, too. I work a great deal in the deletion sorting area these days -- god knows why -- I think this is the only redirect I've ever come across. I think it was created by a relatively inexperienced editor who didn't understand that redirecting from one Wikipedia page to another still wouldn't make the transclusion (if that is the term) happen. I just placed a link to this discussion on the talk page of the deletion sorting project and I'll take the liberty of a @JJMC89:, as that editor is knowledgeable when it comes to technical issues around delsort. Thank you, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:18, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    (The ping didn't work.) The delsort scripts don't follow redirects, so the scripts fail to add the transclusion on the redirect target. Enterprisey might be willing to add redirect following if he has the time, but I don't know that Fox Wilson is around to make updates. — JJMC89 (T·C) 18:18, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Farage (name)

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by nominator. Lenticel (talk) 09:50, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:G7. There are only surnames at the target. --Nevé–selbert 01:01, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Comey (name)

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by nominator (non-admin closure) - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:34, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:G7. There are only surnames at the target. --Nevé–selbert 01:01, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hsuean-tsung

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:04, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Incorrect diacritics. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:50, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see: missing diacritics. The reason I was being pedantic is that Eubot marked everything as ((R from title without diacritics)), including these, even when neither the redirect nor the target in fact have diacritics (because they were created from a redirect that did). At the very least we'd need to fix that to ((R from incorrect spelling)), but deletion is better. Si Trew (talk) 03:21, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Trump Towers

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Trump Tower (disambiguation). This seems obvious to me and I'm already starting to see some snow. -- Tavix (talk) 20:14, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, not more than one tower, perhaps retarget to Trump Tower (disambiguation). - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:36, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Life peerages created by John Major (1990–97)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 22:18, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant, given that Major's peerages have been split between 1990 and 1992 and 1992 and 1997 at target article.--Nevé–selbert 00:30, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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