April 20

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 20, 2023.

Wilfred Clarke

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:19, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect should be deleted since it gives the false impression that an article exists bearing this title. Even if an article existed, this Wilfred Clarke would not be primary since other men receive more frequent mention in Wikipedia entries. — Roman Spinner (talkcontribs) 23:35, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Noogenesis

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:21, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semantically incorrect redirection. Redirection to the article "noosphere", the name "noogenesis", which is not a synonym for the term represented by the name of redirection, and the article does not fully describe this term as part of a more general article. An article about "noogenesis", the concept, the history of its appearance, scientific research and development in modern times deserves, in my opinion, an independent existence. It may be advisable to disconnect "noogenesis" from redirection, designate an independent article "noogenesis" for further editing.DoubleNoo (talk) 21:12, 20 April 2023 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE. plicit 03:20, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A redirect doesn't necessarily have to be "semantically correct" synonym of the targetl; it can simply be a subtopic or related term, which this is, however, for a concept like "noogenesis" there should at least be some material about that topic at the target to justify a redirect. Since there is no material, regardless of whether the nominator is a sock, I think the nomination is correct in that the title should be vacated until relevant content is added to Wikipedia, either at that title or as a section somewhere. Deletion would allow uninhibited searching and the creation of redlinks to encourage content edition, per WP:REDYES. – Scyrme (talk) 16:24, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Ous

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:21, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely abbreviation that is a confusing mess of alphabet soup. Steel1943 (talk) 20:44, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Chinese Transliteration Redirects to Korean People

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Editors remain relatively evenly divided on whether these redirects are helpful. signed, Rosguill talk 00:13, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

WP:RLOTE- Mandarin transliteration 747pilot (talk) 23:11, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 21:23, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 00:35, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Listed the previous RfDs for a couple of entries. A third relist because of minimal participation.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 16:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - None Patar Knight's arguments are persuasive, in my opinion. I don't agree that because Korean hanja names are often written identically to their Chinese counterparts that this means there is sufficient cultural affinity to justify a redirect. By that reasoning literally all Korean topics could justifiably have pinyin redirects, since they could be written in hanja characters and hanja characters could be read as hanzi. In-fact, the same argument could be used to justify redirects from Japanese romanisations, since they could also be read as kanji. Could also justify creating pinyin and Korean redirects for Japanese topics, for that matter. It's a pandora's box, it's not helpful to English-speaking readers, and it inhibits the search results for anyone looking for Chinese names that share the same pinyin romanisation. (For example, there are number of Chinese people who share the name "Li Mingbo", although none have articles on Wikipedia yet.)
That pinyin can be easier to type into a search engine than hanja is irrelevant when Korean romanisations are even easier to type in for English speakers as they lack accents and would be more familiar to English-speaking readers looking for English-language information.
Chinese tourists reading Korean names written in hanja according to the mandarin reading of those characters has absolutely no bearing on whether there is a cultural affinity between these topics in English. The only thing it demonstrates is that Chinese-speaking people often know people by their Chinese name rather than their native name. As noted by Aaron Liu, that's true for people whose native names are English not just for Korean. I don't agree that because Korean names can be natively written in Chinese characters that this makes the Chinese names of Korean people culturally relevant for English-speaking readers.
If these Korean people were of dual nationality, Korean nationals of Chinese heritage, Korean residents of China, or were widely known in English by their Chinese name then there would be grounds for such an affinity. I don't think any of these is the case here. – Scyrme (talk) 18:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Disruptor (comics)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 13#Disruptor (comics)

Christian liberty

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Christian liberty was converted to article, Retarget Christian freedom to it, and Delete Liberty, Christian. Jay 💬 12:39, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unrelated target, misleading. The concept of liberty in Christianity is bigger that the target (e.g. Immortale Dei defines liberty as "a power perfecting man, and hence should have truth and goodness for its object", and in Libertas it is defined as "[consisting in] that through the injunctions of the civil law all may more easily conform to the prescriptions of the eternal law"). I therefore propose deletion. Veverve (talk) 11:08, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's unrelated. The intention here seems to be the idea of private judgement, that is, freedom of opinion, regarding matters that aren't formally established as dogma. Adiaphora clearly relates to that topic. I do see how it could be a surprising target for some readers though, particuarly if they don't have prior knowledge or were expecting a different topic, such as Liberal Christianity or Christian liberalism(a redirect to Christian left).
I don't have an opinion regarding Christian liberty and Christian freedom, but I'd recommending deleting Liberty, Christian.
Liberty, Christian is in the format of an index designed to help navigate a printed work, specifically that of the Evangelical Dictionary of Theology. Creating titles in the format of a print index is costly on several grounds, and entirely unnecessary on an online encyclopedia which is navigated principally through hyperlinks and a search engine. The redirect was created as part of Wikipedia:Evangelical Dictionary of Theology. As I noted in a previous RfD for a similarly formated redirect (which ended in deletion), it's not even clear that creating redirects in this format was intended as some of the links listed on that project page are instead piped and link to their normally formated titles. – Scyrme (talk) 13:46, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's the old dilemma, isn't it? Do I create the article in the middle of the RfD discussion? StAnselm (talk) 01:57, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The subcontinent

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 1#The subcontinent

Deaths in 2024

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 11:54, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be a definite case of WP:TOOSOON. And not sure why it would point to the prior year target. Onel5969 TT me 08:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Henry Clay Foster

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 11:49, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Person was mentioned in this 2018 version of an article when the redirect was created. That content is no longer in the encyclopedia, so the redirect (most recently to Tiger versus Lion#Weight, a non-existent section of an article which is currently at AfD) is now useless. It was recently retargeted to a dab page, but as he is not mentioned there this is still useless. PamD 07:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirects containing "language ()"

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:39, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear what the "()" is meant to represent. Steel1943 (talk) 03:28, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Quick delete. These are simply the remnants of page moves; ideally rd's would not have been left when they were moved. I don't see any incoming links to worry about. — kwami (talk) 06:06, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: the brackets make these totally implausible search terms. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 20:14, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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POSE ()

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:39, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear what the "()" is meant to represent. Steel1943 (talk) 03:27, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete it. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 05:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: same as above, the brackets make these totally implausible search terms. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 20:15, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Bxvi

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 01:37, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unhelpful, nonsensical, extremely vague. I propose deletion. Veverve (talk) 00:47, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete looks like a typo for some word “b_vi”; it abbreviation of Benedict XVI is esoteric at best Dronebogus (talk) 19:05, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Reasonable search term, and the term "Bxvi" returns a whole lot of times that it gets used as an abbreviation for Pope Benedict XVI. See Rod Dreher, Aleteia, The Catholic Herald, The Catholic Weekly, et cetera. The reason it gets a large amount of pageviews is because this abbreviation gets used by Catholic folks who don't want to type out the full name (or, for space reasons in publishing, choose to use the acronym). This is a sensible redirect that targets the WP:PTOPIC for that search term. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:09, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 00:55, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per sources that Red tailed Hawks found. I don't no why a heavily visited and unambiguous redirect should be deleted. Carpimaps (talk) 05:04, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - search results I got on my end affirm Red-tailed hawk's findings. Seems to be a common abbreviation. If kept, should be tagged as ((r from abbreviation)) (or perhaps ((r from short name))) to avoid future confusion for editors like this. – Scyrme (talk) 14:09, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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