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@Risker: I guess I'm not following what's being alleged here or what policies were violated (though I can speculate), or if this overlaps with the remit of the m:OC or WP:AUSC, if it does. --Rschen7754 04:19, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
It is not correct to say that the impending election is "very contentious" as compared with other United Kingdom general elections. For example the United Kingdom general election, 1992 is described by Wikipedia as "one of the most dramatic elections in the UK since the end of the Second World War", while another general election that century was called "in the midst of a constitutional crisis". By comparison, commenting on this year's general election, the BBC said three days ago, "We're still awaiting take-off ... How many different and interesting ways are there to describe a walrus moving barely one inch?"
The politician about whom the allegations were made is quoted by the BBC this morning as saying "A simple look in my diary shows I was elsewhere". Elsewhere than whom? If the politician and his advisers had no knowledge of the person operating the Contribsx account, how would they know that person was in a different location to the politician? The only unregistered edits mentioned by the Guardian are described as IP addresses of "a web hosting service regularly employed by internet spammers" ... it does not seem there is any suggestion that the politician and the web hosting service were in the same physical location. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:59, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Chase appears to have been driving the investigation in cooperation with the newspaper while the story was being prepared even if information was not directly cut&paste (as appears to have been stated by himself on the sockpuppet investigation with "[The Guardian] did point out the likelihood of sockpuppetry and explained the connections between the various characters, which is a lot of work - thankyou!"). I note that a second Wikimedia employee used their personal Wikipedia account to protect the article on 21 April. Chase's investigation is entirely likely to have been done with the support of other employees of Wikimedia UK as part of their "communications" activities, indeed The Guardian has used a public statement from "a spokesperson from Wikimedia UK", which Chase must have been part of preparing.[1] The UK chapter has a long and open history of working with newspaper contacts on secret Wikipedia investigations as part of increasing the charity's media profile.
During my tenure as an elected trustee on the board of Wikimedia UK, I was advised by employees (including Chase) that they were running "black ops" investigations. This included employees having anonymous accounts on Wikipediocracy in order to glean information from non-public threads. If this is still going on, and relies (or has relied) on checkuser information, or information from OTRS accounts, then it is about time these secrecy games came to an end, and employees advised to stick to open and accountable working using "WMUK" accounts, or those involved advised to make open declarations about their anonymous activities.
I suggest that Arbcom contact D'Arcy Myers, the current interim Wikimedia UK CEO,[2] at the commencement of this case, for an official statement with regards to what Wikipedia investigations are being run covertly, with the support or facilities of the charity even if on a "tacit" basis. Other employees involved in any way, should be invited to make a public statement and expect to be a party to this case.
For what I hope are obvious reasons, I urge Arbcom members who are personal friends with Chase (himself a past member of Arbcom) to recuse. --Fæ (talk) 09:51, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
I have struck my statement entirely. I shall consider if it is worth the volunteer effort, and the risk of being blocked, for trying to make a statement in this case about what I know to be true, from my time as a charity trustee that are relevant to this case. I was told things as a trustee and the Chairman of Wikimedia UK about activities of the employees for which there will be no hard on-wiki evidence, so verification may boil down to whether the people who have been involved are prepared to make an open and straight-forward statement out of good conscience. --Fæ (talk) 12:32, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Two observations:
Clarification with regard to Wikimedia UK aspects:
As far as I can tell, the sock-block is entirely spurious. The grounds for block, if there were any, would be COI; but since the account has had no warnings an immeadiate COI block would appear to be rather severe. So, why hasn't the block been overturned while the case is considered? William M. Connolley (talk) 10:14, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Risker, what are you alleging? That Chase leaked CU info to the Guardian? To me the timeline suggests that a reporter figured this all out and emailed Chase the evidence, and Chase then posted it publicly. That would explain the exact quotes. The worst you've alleged is that Chase told the reporter he would block the account before doing it. So what? Please post the crux of the complaint if there is one. Jehochman Talk 10:34, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
It looks like the Arbs are doing the right thing (investigation by both Arbcom and AUSC, in camera) so there's not much for me to add there. I must say that I'm astounded by Fæ's comment though. The idea that WMUK staff are using private information (CU and OTRS) for their own gain is an extraordinary accusation - I hope you have something to back it up, which should be passed to Arbcom immediately. If accurate, why in the hell did you not do something about it at the time. I note however that you have fallen far from grace with WMUK and wonder how accurate these accusations are. If not accurate, I do hope they are stricken. WormTT(talk) 10:46, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
I would like to respond to Black Kite from my perspective as an active CheckUser and former SPI clerk. Except for Contribsx, the CU data for every account and IP in the SPI archive is long stale, so it is actually rather unlikely that any checks would have been endorsed in the recent case, and personally, I wouldn't have run any checks on my own. In addition, if Contribsx was such an obvious sockpuppet, checks would not normally have been warranted unless there was some evidence that other unused "sleeper" accounts were waiting in the wings. —DoRD (talk) 13:41, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
*Sigh*
Timeline:
I never even heard of the subject of the article before yesterday (after the newspaper article was published), much less discussed anything about this in advance with anyone since I didn't know anything about it, and no I didn't discuss whether I should apply semi-protection to the article with anyone before I applied it. -- KTC (talk) 14:08, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Please look at the evidence Chase Me had at the time of the block and determine whether he accurately characterised to The Guardian and others the strength of that evidence.
The cases of employees of the Foundation and/or its chapters overlapping their official capacity and volunteer edits continue to grow. The Foundation supposedly created a policy(see note below) to address this, but the policy has failed. This case is another possible case where employees are overlapping their duties with their volunteer edits. As is often the case, there are real world implications to these failures. I remind ArbCom of a motion it passed which in part addressed this issue. Should ArbCom accept this case, part of its investigation should be looking into whether this policy was violated. Though ArbCom has no jurisdiction over the actions of the WMF and its employees, it does have jurisdiction over their local privileges and actions here on this project.
Note: As an addendum, I note with disgust that the Foundation has failed to post the policy, referenced by Philippe here, on its policies page, nor does there appear to be any traffic regarding such in its resolutions. If the Foundation is unwilling to enact/enforce (if it exists, which appears doubtful) this policy, it may come to pass in the future that ArbCom will be forced to remove all but the basic user access levels from Foundation/chapter employees to prevent such serious issues from arising again. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:35, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
The earlier September 2012 SPI case (which was declined) was opened only after the Guardian alleged Hackneymarsh is the politician and alleged that two IP addresses are connected to him.
This was never confirmed by any Wikipedia process and as such evidence related to the politician's real-life activities is inappropriate and undue outing. Yet the Guardian article in 2012 [9] claimed that Hackneymarsh, Historyset and two IP addresses belong to the politician. Did someone leak CheckUser information already back then? How could the newspaper link an anonymous Wikipedia editor to an IP address? It brings forth a very serious question. Both the 2012 and 2015 the Guardian articles were written by the same journalist by the way, and the journalist knew who to contact to get a solo SPI on-going. AUSC should examine CheckUser use all the way back to 2010. --Pudeo' 15:34, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Did the investigation reveal for *absolute certainty* that this sock was "clearly controlled by Shapps"?
It's my understanding that that is the quote that was given to the Guardian and if it's not true, we should immediately contact the paper, apologise to them and to Shapps and correct the assertion. --Dweller (talk) 15:36, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
While I don't object to ArbCom hearing evidence and making a decision in secret, I do hope that it will publish a timeline of its findings. The questions are: who contacted whom, when, and with what intent? Carrite (talk) 17:31, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
The Daily Telegraph, April 22, "Wikipedia administrator who accused Grant Shapps of editing pages of Tory rivals is Liberal Democrat activist".
"The Wikipedia administrator who accused the Tory co-chairman, Grant Shapps, of creating a fake identity on the online encyclopedia to boost his reputation is a leading activist in the Liberal Democrats, the Telegraph can reveal. In his Twitter profile, Mr Symonds describes himself as a “Liberal Democrat to the last.” He has written letters to newspapers, including The Telegraph, in his capacity as a Liberal Democrat activist."
Among those political letters are: [10] [11]. These are also signed by "Chris Keating, Streatham".
Wikimedia UK board member Chris Keating declared his membership in the LibDems only in November 2012, a few weeks after the previous, 2012 Shapps Wikipedia story in the Guardian [12][13]. At that time, Chris Keating was the chairman of the Wikimedia UK board. He has since then run for office for the LibDems, according to his interest declaration. Given Fæ's comments above, we are now left to wonder whether the timing of that interest declaration, a few weeks after the previous Shapps imbroglio, was significant, whether Wikimedia UK was involved in that previous story as well, and whether some form of non-standard checkuser access was used at the time.
If the Committee could establish the facts of the matter and report to the community about it, I would welcome that. All of this strikes me as highly damaging to the image of Wikipedia and Wikimedia UK. Andreas JN466 17:50, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Dan Murphy of The Christian Science Monitor weighs in: Did leading UK politician edit his Wikipedia page? Possibly, but the problem goes deeper. Andreas JN466 19:37, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Chase has said that and several other editors were contacted by the Guardian in early April. Who were the other editors? He said he "came to the conclusion listed on the SPI, and ran this conclusion past other administrators". Who were the other administrators? And who made the statements to the Guardian? The article says that "Wikipedia’s administrators" said that Shapps has used alternative accounts that were not fully and openly disclosed, and that the contribsx account was "clearly controlled by Shapps". Did these administrators use the name Shapps and who were they?
PS Neat of user:Risker to spot the BST/UTC thing, which I missed completely. Peter Damian (talk) 21:54, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Due to the high profile nature of the case, I don't oppose it being accepted, but I would strongly encourage careful review of the evidence as it stands with regards to Wikipedia policies, and not the public view. Unless there is private information that I am unaware of (which is always a possibility,) there's nothing extremely unusual about this block - and indeed, I expect this type of block to become more common, not less. It's not uncommon for journalists to contact Wikipedians to discuss potential sock scenarios - there are several accounts that I intend to block when I get home that fit that bill precisely, actually. It doesn't look like Chase shared any private information with the Guardian. I can see how it could be viewed as questionable that Chase publicly used a past Guardian article to link to the accounts to the person in question, but when such information has been published in a major newspaper, I don't think linking the original account to the person in question constitutes outing. The further accounts quack rather loudly to me - but even if they didn't, Chase would just be guilty of a flawed block, which is something that hardly warrants arbcom attention. I don't think a prominent British politician deserves any more protection than an average citizen (and indeed, if we look to traditional defamation laws, deserves less,) and situations that 'out' ordinary citizens occur very frequently with no notice paid to them (e.g., a new account creating an article about a non-notable musician and everyone assuming the account is operated by the musician or someone affiliated with the musician.) Kevin Gorman (talk) 22:08, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
I am a completely uninvolved, but deeply concerned editor. I generally avoid Wiki-politics like the plague, whether it's a dispute at ANI, AE or ArbCom; that said, I feel compelled to comment here even though I have no direct interest, either in this case or in any of the parties. I am an American, so the involvement of British political machinations in this matter is of very little importance to me. I am, however, genuinely concerned for Wikipedia, its good governance, and its public credibility. Here's what I see in a nutshell:
As someone who has served as the designated spokesman and media contact for several organizations in my past career, as well as having served as the chief legal officer for several corporate entities, I see multiple problems with how this matter has been handled to date. First, I see unauthorized comments to the media, ostensibly made by an administrator-checkuser, which, if accurately quoted, served as confirmation of the newspaper's own investigatory activities. As far as I know, no one -- no editor, no administrator, no checkuser, no oversighter -- is authorized to speak to the media on Wikipedia/WMF's behalf regarding the outcome of SPI/checkuser activities, nor on any other matter, nor in any other manner that might seem as if they are speaking on behalf of Wikipedia/WMF. If this is not presently against the explicit policies that govern the conduct of administrators, checkusers and other volunteer Wikipedia, it should be. Second, I see a trusted holder of the administrator and checkuser bits who has allowed himself to be used to further a media organization's own (potentially partisan) investigatory activities. I don't pretend to understand the motives, partisan or otherwise, of the involved administrator-checkuser, but I do see abundant evidence of extremely poor judgment as well as a possible breach of the confidentiality rules governing the conduct of SPI/checkuser activities.
Frankly, I could not give a rodent's hairy little backside about the individual Wikipedia/WMF/WMUK personnel, nor the media and politicians, involved in this case. The conduct of these individuals, however, have demonstrated that very real problems exist in the organization and governance of Wikipedia, and they need to be addressed in a manner that ensures that they will not recur. If existing policies need to be clarified, or new ones adopted, so be it. No public organization of the size and scope of Wikipedia can long exist successfully if unauthorized volunteer personnel have the ability to involve it in potentially defamatory statements and breaches of confidence that can be attributed to the organization itself. ArbCom must accept this case, and it needs to be prepared to make recommendations about the organization and governance of Wikipedia, the conduct of its volunteer personnel, and its relations with the media, which go beyond the instant conduct of the personnel directly involved in this matter. Admonishing the involved personnel and/or removing their bits is not enough. While the surrounding media controversy in this matter may yet prove to be a teapot tempest, it points to Wikipedia organizational and governance weaknesses that can only contribute to worse controversies in the future if such weaknesses remain unaddressed. I don't envy ArbCom's task in this case, but you have my support. Good luck. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:10, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
I just got a note about this, saying Given the legal, privacy and BLP implications of holding the case in public the Committee has decided to run the case completely in camera, to that effect there will be no public evidence submission or workshop. Editors with direct knowledge of the events and related evidence are requested to email their to arbcom-en-b@lists.wikimedia.org by May 7, 2015 which is when evidence submission will close.
Just for once I won't object to it being in private. But I am surprised by the 7th of May deadline. Anyone who knows anything will be able to submit much quicker than that. The thing that drags out evidence in other cases is people responding to other people. But since its all in private, that can't happen this time. So, I'd suggest you reel in your deadline William M. Connolley (talk) 07:07, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Please submit any evidence to arbcom-en-blists.wikimedia.org, and refrain from using the case talk pages to discuss the case. GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:06, 26 April 2015 (UTC) |
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I fully understand, and agree with, the decision to hear the case in private. I would ask, however, as a totally uninvolved Wikipedian, that when the decision is published, as much information is included to support the findings as is possible given the circumstances. I say this not only because I believe the maximum amount of possible transparency is a good thing, but also because the decision is much more likely to be accepted if there is sufficient supporting evidence presented. (This being Wikipedia, there's not a snowball's chance in Hell of there not being a controversy about whatever decision the Committee should end up with, but more information might help take the edge off.) BMK (talk) 23:13, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Bearing in mind that to my knowledge not a single one of the accounts and IP addresses mentioned since 2012 in the history of the Hackneymarsh sockpuppet investigation page had ever been sanctioned in any way for any infringement of Wikipedia policies and guidelines—do you intend to pass a finding of fact on whether or not the immediate and unilateral indefinite block placed on the Contribsx account, at a time when that account had not made a single edit in over two weeks, was justified and in line with community norms, policies and guidelines?
To put it another way, will you either endorse or undo the indefinite block? Or is the fate of the Contribsx account outside the purview of this case, and a matter that you'll leave up to the community to decide?
If the former, are you asking editors to send you evidence and analysis of Contribsx's – and the other mentioned accounts' and IP addresses' – editing and conduct, and how it compares to community standards? And if you do welcome such evidence, should Contribsx and the other accounts not be listed as parties to the case?
As far as I can see, these accounts have to date not even been notified of this case. Andreas JN466 22:22, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
The drafters have decided to extend the deadline to submit evidence to 18 May 2015. Accordingly, the proposed decision posting target date will be 26 May 2015. LFaraone 01:40, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Has everyone gone to sleep or has there been a larger political crisis regarding Wikipedia? Giano (talk) 18:09, 3 June 2015 (UTC)