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Just noticed it on the FACT blog [2] - the Tourism Authority of Thailand plans to edit articles about Thailand on Wikipedia and Wikitravel. While there are definitely a lot of articles in need of improving, this being done by a government agency is risky. So be VERY careful about POV edits, removal of criticism, etc. But try to do without biting them away, having them edit in accordance with our rules and style would be for our mutual interest. andy (talk) 09:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
You did great work, Andy. Should we try contact TAT directly about the issue? --PaePae | Talk 10:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I saw this news as well,[4] [5] and was pretty concerned. I'm glad to see that others have noticed it, too, and are keeping a watchful eye. — WiseKwai 18:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I got a reply from born Distinction. They are a consultant company responsible for 'WIKI for Thailand Tourism' project. They said the project does not start making any modification with Wikipedia nor Wikitravel yet. So those edits should not be related to TAT.
However, I had addressed that these users might be a person from the project. They said it should be misunderstood among the participants. They will propose TAT to notice them about our concerns.
They also provided schedule as below:
As of now, phase 1-2-3 are in progress.
WIKI Working Committee:
They did sent invitation email to wiki experts writing about Thailand and got some feedbacks, almost foreigners. WIKI Mission for Thailand Tourism project will have an official press conference in March.
They are also inviting us to join the Working Committee for co-operation along the project. Anyone interested? --PaePae | Talk 08:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Editions on WIKIPEDIA TAT has not started editing any article on WIKIPEDIA as yet whereas the articles about 3 provinces in Thailand, Pathumthani, Songkhla and Petchabun, are not edited by TAT.
Editions with the username borndistinction is just try to find out whether how it works but has not touched any content at all.
Editions on WIKITravel TAT has edited and created new content on few articles on WIKITravel already by consulting WIKITravel expert by proving them the authority and copyright of the content from TAT. [6]--Borndistinction (talk) 08:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes I would strongly recommend mergin thai provinces with the main one ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 10:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
I just mean moving it to a sub page of the project ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:06, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Should Thailand articles currently tagged under WikiProject Southeast Asia be re-tagged under this project instead? It isn't clear to me whether this project is a subproject of WikiProject Southeast Asia itself, but if not, there would seem to be a great amount of overlapping scope.
If articles are transferred to this project, how should the quality and importance scales be treated? Is reassessment needed for all articles? - Paul_012 (talk) 14:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Thailand#Templates. Badagnani (talk) 16:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
See Special:Contributions/Borndistinction. Badagnani (talk) 11:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
The guidelines at Wikipedia:WikiProject Thai provinces#How to title the page have been there for quite some time. If no one else thinks they should be changed, these moves should be reverted. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello everyone! There is a discussion at Talk:Dutch Empire#Request For Comment: Map, because user Red4tribe has made a map of the Dutch Empire (Image:Dutch Empire 4.png) that includes significative parts of Thailand. Would you like to comment? Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 15:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
The Tom kha pladuk article has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom kha pladuk. Thank you. --Paul_012 (talk) 18:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
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I basically archived everything before 2008, since the page was hopelessly backlogged (some discussions haven't been resolved after 3 years). If anyone would like to revive a topic or request, please do so. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 14:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I've been looking for an online tool to help me romanize the title of a Thai comics title. I found one but there seems to be some sort of encoding conflict and it's not working for me. I was hoping someone here might be able to recommend something? In the meantime, would anyone be willing to transliterate the following title for me? ตุลาการทมิฬ ฉบับพิเศษ I really appreciate it - thanks! --hamu♥hamu (TALK) 20:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
An user Badagnani had placed a Bot request for Tagging articles ((WikiProject Thailand)) from Thai related categories. TinucherianBot have autotagged around 1204 new articles. Categories used can be found here .This is FYI -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 18:45, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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Dunno if this is the write place for this; if not, tell me where to go. Public holidays in Thailand was re-written by me to add introductory text before the plain table that was there before; tweak that table which basically was correct; and add a new topic, Other national observances. Five days on the new table need attention:
Help! Pawyilee (talk) 09:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Currently, 2230 articles are assigned to this project, of which 406, or 18.2%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 14 July 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. More than 150 projects and work groups have already subscribed, and adding a subscription for yours is easy - just place a template on your project page.
If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page; I'm not watching this page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:59, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia's page that serves as a table of contents for its Thailand content is the the List of basic Thailand topics.
It's not quite done, and needs you to refine and maintain it.
The Transhumanist 23:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
This list has just been moved to article space from the basic topics lists WikiProject. It's useful enough to be in article space, but it still has some redlinks and missing topics, and it desperately needs maps and pictures.
It needs dedicated editors to look after it.
The Transhumanist 23:55, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
P.S.: please place it on your watchlist!
Need Thai at Lao Lom. Badagnani (talk) 16:31, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
People's Alliance for Democracy is going through an edit war. Heavens child, BasicallySo, and GoodHands, all users created at approximately the same time, have repeatedly reverted several edits and have refused to discuss the disagreements in the Talk page. Please have a look and see if you can make some 3rd party suggestions. Patiwat (talk) 06:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
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Does anyone want to expand it to make it its own article? Right now it is only a small section in Hinduism_in_Southeast_Asia. Its surely deserves to be longer.--D-Boy (talk) 03:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
that article is sorely in need of an update to the recent events. Wondering if someone can help in that regard? Lihaas (talk) 22:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Just a heads up regarding a pattern of behavior that I saw with an anonymous IP user tonight- User:125.238.152.234 ran through a large number of Thai-related pages, particularly regarding mixed-ethnicity Thai celebrities and Thai people of Mon or Laotian heritage removing or blunting references to their non-Thai ethnic heritage. People from Category:Thai people of Mon descent and Category:Thai people of Mon descent along with various luk kreung celebrities seemed to be the main targets. --Clay Collier (talk) 07:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
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I'm interested in creating navboxes for all of the provinces to make it easier to find relevant articles. I've made the first one, Template:Lopburi (see below). I hope to get some feedback/discussion to help develop a uniform style and layout, in order to minimize editing later on. Thanks.
Lopburi (capital) | ||
Districts (amphoe) | ||
Royalty | ||
Related topics | ||
Neighboring areas |
--rikker (talk) 08:33, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey I've read the article and the section Thailand and Democracy after 1932 really needs some work. I know nothing about Thailand but I thought this would be a good place to request help. Thanks.Ltwin (talk) 21:06, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Please see discussions on the renaming of the articles History of Thailand (1768–1932), Thailand National Artist and Thetsagan Sart. There is also discussion on the naming of Thai districts (amphoe) at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thai districts#Naming of articles. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:57, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Hundreds of articles on Thai royals have been given funky new titles in the last couple of days by User:Monarchians. Check out the discussion here. Kauffner (talk) 14:20, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Since the previous (dated) discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Thailand-related articles) had not achieved clear consensus even back then, and a few years have already passed (and presumably so have the circumstances changed), I would like to ask the parties involved to take a fresh look at this and re-state their opinions and reasons, citing the relevant Wikipedia guidelines where appropriate. Some may feel we are going through this again, but hopefully by starting anew we should be able to reach a consensus. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Since the Manual of Style concerns more than the naming of royalty articles, I'm taking the liberty to split the discussion. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
The current style is apparently designed to make articles names as short as possible, presumably to avoid bumping into technical barriers that no longer exist. Putting the given name first is a convention designed to make alphabetizing easier, another barrier technology has overcome. For the popes, the title comes first now, as in Pope Pius X. In other words, the trend is to follow usage in straight text as opposed to the style used in dead tree encyclopedia headings. So its high time to update the style here. For living royals, I suggest following the style used by the Thai English-language press. This would give us "Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn", "Princess Srirasmi", "Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn," and so forth. (The Thai press puts "His Royal Highness" or "HRH" before the title, but this is banned by Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles)). For historical figures, I propose following the style used by historians: "King Chulalongkorn," "Crown Prince Vajirunhis", etc. Kauffner (talk) 17:37, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Copied from User talk:Kauffner:
Well first, I am sorry that I did anything you did not admire. Last night I and the office discussed about the name of the Thai Royalties until 11 pm. The objections we did were to complete the Thai Royal Family articles. We would like to complete all the member of the Siamese or Thai Royal Family, from the reign of Rama I to current Rama IX. I think I would like you to help us, too. At this moment we are editing the User page, so you will know who we are. And when I do anything wrong with the Thai Royal Article, you can tell me anytime you like. And I will discuss with you when I would like to edit or change anything about them. You can cooperate with us...
The result of the meeting of changing the name of the Thai Royal Article in Wikipedia, the free evcyclopedia...
We may cut the title Prince and Princess from the royalty who got the rank. Like Chitcharoen, Prince Narisara Nuvadtivongs, Kitiyakara Voraluksana, Prince of Chunthaburi, Bhanirangsi Savangvongse, Prince Bhanubandhu Vongsevoradej, etc. Because, they will be very long name in the article.
And the name of the monarch of Thailand, I think we should write the name like the European monarch, like; Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom, Margrethe II of Denmark, Maria I of Russia, Otto I of Austria, etc. So we can write like it in the Thai Monarchs, too. like; Bhumibol Adulyadej, Rama IX of Thailand, Chulalongkorn, Rama V of Siam, and still the name in it. How is your comment about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monarchians (talk • contribs) 08:06, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
And the article name of the Crown Prince of Thailand. I think Maha Vajiralongkorn, Crown Prince of Thailand is the best name of the article, do you agree? And the name of the current members of the Thai Royal Family must have the title in the article. Like; Prince Dipangkorn Rasmijoti of Thailand, Princess Chulabhorn Walailuk of Thailand, etc. So it will be the same of the Royal Articles of the other Royal Family, like; Prince Christian of Denmark, Princess Isabella of Denmark, etc. Do you agree?
And the royalty or nobility whose title Mom Chao, Mom Rajawongse, or Mom Luang. We should write the title in front of the name, too. e.g, Mom Chao Chatrichalerm Yukol, Mom Rajawongse Mannarumas Yukol, Mom Luang Sarali Kitiyakara...
We would like to have your comment, too. Because this is the free encyclopedia, not the private...
Hope to hear from you soon. Monarchians (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 07:41, 22 December 2008 (UTC).
Dear. Kauffner... You said the Bangkok Post write only Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn. I see iy. But it is because Bangkok Post is the local newspaper of the Kingdom of Thailand. The editor write Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn because the Thai people and the foreigner always know that he is the Crown Prince of Thailand, not the other's. So it may be right if we name the article as Maha Vajiralongkorn, Crown Prince of Thailand. Because the people around the world will know that he is the Crown Prince of Thailand. And besides the people around the world does not have the Bangkok Post to read...
For example, The Sun, the local newspaper in England, write the name of Prince Chalres only as Prince Charles. Not Charles, Prince of Wales. Because the people in England always know that he is the prince of the UK, and the heir apparent to the British Throne, too. But in the article in Wikipedia, they name as Charles, Prince of Wales. So they would like all the people in the world who enter Prince Charles' article will know that he is the prince of the UK...
And the title Mom Chao, Mom Rajawongse, and Mom Luang are the title which the royalties has got since they were born. And the title Sir, or Lady or Dame are the title which given to the people by the sovereign. The Thai Royal Family is different from the other Royal or Imperial Families.
Monarchians (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:01, 22 December 2008 (UTC).
My opinion is that all media in Thailand are compromised by the country's excessive lese majeste laws and there is absolutely no need for Wikipedia to start aping their obsequious kowtowing. We should use the shortest forms of the common names, stripped of any titles unless absolutely needed for disambiguation: Bhumibol Adulyadej, Vajiralongkorn, Srirasmi, etc. This is already the de facto convention anyway.
In addition, we need to reiterate here that, as per WP guidelines, titles are not to be used in article content when referring to the person. Jpatokal (talk) 02:18, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
The conclusion is that the Thai Royal Articles will name as only the name, not the titles or ranks, e.g.
In case of these two gueens, we should use the posthumously name. As you can see that The Princess Mother Sangval is named in the article as Sri Nagarindra...
And in case of Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn, the word Maha Chakri is the part of her full name. Her formal name was Sirindhorn Theprattanasuda and then has changed into Maha Chakri Sirindhorn it is not the ranks or the title. Her title is only Princess of Thailand. Well, one of my team named the title as The Princess Royal. Well that title was just as the comparison about the rank in English. But the only title is just as Princess of Thailand
I hope to see your comments or agreements, if you would to... And we continued cooperating create the Royal Thai articles happily...Thank you
Mr. Chakri (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 19:10, 23 December 2008 (UTC). Technology department, Secretary office, Bureau of the Royal Household, Kingdom of Thailand
Generally the Royal Thai General System of Transcription is now used for general terms and names with no clearly established English spelling, although the specifics detailed on the MoS page are outdated and not really followed. Please note further concerns or suggestions regarding the transcription scheme here. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
except perhaps the fact that having the boldfaced article title as the audio link seems a bit confusing at first glance. That is, I don't think it's necessary to provide the RTGS Aphisit Wetchachiwa, as it isn't a recognisable spelling of the name in this case, and a poorer pronunciation guide than the IPA. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:11, 22 December 2008 (UTC)Thai: อภิสิทธิ์ เวชชาชีวะ, IPA: [apʰisit wetɕʰatɕʰiwa]... )
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The MoS is currently pretty limited in scope. Please suggest specific issues that would be beneficial to be included here. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
If the Technology department, Secretary office, Bureau of the Royal Household, Kingdom of Thailand, really wants to help improve the articles, they should upload some images in the public domain that won't be promptly deleted for lack of a proper license! Getting suitable images for ALL articles on Thailand, not just on the Royal family, is a headache! Upload instructions at Thai Wikipedia tell how that's done, but English Wikipedia needs permission in both languages. Also, just who is going to initiate Technology department, Secretary office, Bureau of the Royal Household, Kingdom of Thailand? It would also be nice if they could stop Bhumibol Adulyadej from being redirected here. Pawyilee (talk) 15:18, 23 December 2008 (UTC)