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The article as it currently stands is a POV mess of cherry picked quotes presenting a narrow POV viewpoint. I’ve removed the irrelevant section about Israel bringing aid that was presented to synthesize the idea that this was somehow correlated with the discovery of weapons. Drsmoo (talk) 17:51, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe we can start with Newsweek and see where that might lead. "The bunker, reportedly constructed decades ago, includes a secure underground operating room and tunnel network. Reports by left-wing Israeli newspaper Haaretz and other outlets have specifically mentioned the hospital's Building No. 2, which it says was built as an add-on in the mid-1980s and contains a large cement basement initially intended for laundry and administrative tasks. The excavation of the underground concrete floor was corroborated by online English-language Israeli publication Ynetnews."
and
helpful maps/layout here showing the discovered locations, "lie underneath the northeastern part of the Al-Shifa compound. The underground network begins under the southeastern part of the Qatari building, which houses the internal medicine wards. The tunnel is blocked from the side leading to the Shifa – Ezz Aldine Al-Qassam Street." Selfstudier (talk) 18:51, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why start with a source presenting a minority opinion? Most sources correctly state that Israel built an underground operating area which was expanded, tunneled out and developed by Hamas for military use. These sources will be provided later. Drsmoo (talk) 19:13, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If it is a minority opinion, then there will be other sources describing what Israel built that do not mention those tunnels. I look forward to seeing those and i will of course go looking myself. Selfstudier (talk) 19:20, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ehud Barak, Israel’s former prime minister, told CNN earlier this week that some of the underground space underneath Al-Shifa was built by Israeli engineers. Israeli officials said that Hamas dug several further floors and added more tunnels to the basement areas originally built in the 1980s.
During a cabinet meeting a week ago, Shin Bet chief Yuval Diskin said senior Hamas officials found refuge in the hospital basement because they know Israel would not target it, due to the patients in the upper floors. Palestinian sources told Haaretz that not all the senior Hamas leaders are hiding in one place.
Rather, they have spread out, and some are constantly changing locations. Some of the bunkers they are using were linked by tunnels Hamas built in recent years.
A large portion of the buildings that now make up the hospital were built by Israel when it ruled Gaza. It pulled out of the strip in 2005, opening a window for Hamas to take control, and by 2007 the militants had begun building the command center under Al Shifa, the Israeli officials said.
At first, Hamas simply dug out areas off the original basements of Al Shifa’s buildings, later going deeper and adding floors and connecting it to the vast network of reinforced tunnels it was building across Gaza, the officials said. They said it has since grown into one of the hubs of a vast tunnel system that crisscrosses Gaza. Drsmoo (talk) 01:11, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Telegraph says "added more tunnels to the basement areas originally built in the 1980s" meaning there were some already there. This seems logical, why would you build underground areas without connections? What we need are historical sources to clear this up. Selfstudier (talk) 11:56, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Copy from main hospital article:
"During a renovation in the 1990s a large basement was added, which the IDF later said was appropriated by Hamas and used to store weapons.[1][2][3][4]According to former Israeli PM Ehud Barak in an interview with CNN, the tunnels were built in the 1980s by Israel as part of the hospital's construction.[5][6]In particular, in 1983, the Israelis built "a secure underground operating room and tunnel network" beneath Building 2 of the hospital.[7] According to Israeli officials, Hamas subsequently dug out the original basement, later adding new floors and connecting it as a hub within their existing tunnel system.[8][9]"
We have The Times "One reason that the Israelis have good reason to suspect that there is an underground bunker is that they themselves built a secure operating room with some tunnels under the hospital in 1983 when they occupied the territory." without mentioning the Tablet article, and
The Conversation says "There were also claims published several days before the tunnels were reportedly uncovered referencing a 2014 article [Tablet] which asserted that the complex had been built in 1983 when Israel was in control of Gaza. Again, this claim has not been investigated. Forensic investigation of the site and all records pertaining to construction work there will be of huge importance." and several other sources have cited Tablet.
These days, Tablet is a bit of a ropey source, idk whether it was any good in 2014. Selfstudier (talk) 16:04, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Reports indicate the IDF saying they have blown up/destroyed the tunnels and shafts, ah well, no command center then (and no independent investigation either..). Selfstudier (talk) 19:13, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html
ij addition,
In the MRI building of Shifa Hospital, the forces found many weapons, as well as in the Qatari building of the hospital. According to the IDF, Hamas gave instructions in the three weeks leading up to the maneuver to seal the tunnel openings and hide weapons under the auspices of 30,000 Gazans deployed in the hospital complex.
The intro mainly includes the initial allegations and immediate responses within the same month (November). It needs to made clear that these were initial allegations and authoritative news sources have reversed these claims. These likely do not belong in the summary section, and may not have a place on this page unless there is a section on the history of how the news broke. There should be fewer direct quotes in the intro paragraph; ideally these be moved to appropriate sections. Relspas (talk) 14:49, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]