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Q2: Andrew Tate goes by xe/xim pronouns. Why doesn't the article use them?
A2: Per MOS:GENDERID, articles use the pronouns found in the most recent reliable sources. While self-identification is usually sufficient for pronouns per WP:ABOUTSELF, there is serious doubt among editors that Andrew Tate's claims to prefer xe/xim or she/her pronouns are genuine. The self-identifcation is thus an exceptional claim and not, on its own, a reliable source. As of yet, no independent source refers to Tate using xe/xim or she/her pronouns.
Q3: Why isn't Andrew Tate's conversion to Islam mentioned in the article?
A3: Andrew Tate's conversion to Islam is mentioned in the article under § Personal life. The "stance" parameter in the infobox does not refer to Tate's religious stance; rather, it refers to his boxing stance during his time as a kickboxer. He fought with an orthodox stance.
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Hi, I have a question. An article for Andrew's brother - Tristan - does not exist, and the URL for his Wikipedia article simply redirects to Andrew's page. Arguably, Tristan is also quite popular/notable, because nearly everyone who knows Andrew also knows him as well. For example, nearly all of his podcasts feature his brother - who also speaks his opinions. There is a lot of content and external sources that could be used to formulate an article for Tristan, so I believe that he fits the notability requirements for a Wikipedia article very well. So, I would be keen to write a separate article about Tristan, rather than the URL for his page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_Tate) simply redirecting to Andrew's article. Thanks. Styx276 (talk) 02:48, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone can replace a redirect with an article. However, please take a look at Wikipedia:Notability first, to determine whether Tristan meets our standard of notability (which is not the same thing as merely being popular or well-known in a specific community). And then please see Help:Your first article for guidance on how to write it. While you can edit the redirect at Special:Edit/Tristan Tate, I would recommend running the article through Wikipedia:Articles for creation (at Draft:Tristan Tate) instead, to ensure it is vetted for notability and quality. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|she) 02:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The redirect is protected from editing, so getting a Draft approved is the only path forward for the OP. I would suggest that for a first article it would be better to pick a subject that doesn't have a history of many failed attempts like this one. Why make things so difficult your first time out? - MrOllie (talk) 03:09, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the speedy reply! @MrOllie I just realized that it has a history of failed attempts to get submitted, but still included a suggestion of why it would be sensible to release the draft on Draft talk:Tristan Tate Styx276 (talk) 03:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The main issue referenced is WP:BLP1E, however based on WP:WI1E essay, I think he's past that now. He's been arrested, charged, remanded and under house arrest, all of which has been covered by RS. This isn't a case of one event and the subject disappears from the news, but an ongoing case with regular coverage that he's included in. There are also articles specifically about him [1][2][3], but unfortunately the default appears to be to decline the draft based on previous submissions. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article did not survive an AfD, the main reason being a lack of WP:SIGCOV but the deleted draft could be recovered, but I would recommend waiting until there is more significant news about Tristan Tate Mr Vilitalk06:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. we already say this "After a video of him praying at a mosque in Dubai went viral in October 2022, he announced on his Gettr account that he had converted to Islam.[125][126][127]" Cannolis (talk) 07:29, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This source is a WordPress blog and probably wouldn't be considered a reliable source (WP:WORDPRESS). This source is a website called "AndrewTateNetWorth.US" and is probably considered too close to the subject. The other two sources I can't speak to the reliability of. Are any other editors more familiar with the types of sources that individual kickboxing matches usually need? 〜Askarion✉22:23, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
^...He was taken out the show due to training actually. He's a hero to many of his fans for being vorougusily proud and humble. He's rich and isn't shy to show it... Another thing he
Lead sentence
Really long run on sentence that's somewhat unintelligible in the lead. I'd fix but idk what it's trying to say toobigtokale (talk) 09:20, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I've taken out the bulk of sources, leaving only those for the most contentious claims, in order to try and balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material. per MOS:LEADCITE. Can remove the rest if you think it's necessary though. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 13:02, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
”In 2016, he appeared on the British reality series Big Brother, but was removed as he was the suspect in an open rape investigation in the United Kingdom.” Change to “the suspect of an open rape investigation.” 750h+ (talk) 00:37, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not trying to be intentionally annoying, but changed Britons to British people, a more commonly understood term (especially for non-Britons). A note seems excessive here, as does linking to Britons for that matter. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 15:20, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I actually already saw "Britons" there, as an Australian, I have never heard of the term "Britons" (I had to google it). 750h+ (talk) 15:20, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Early life
“Emory Andrew Tate III was born on 1 December 1986, in Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C.” rephrase that to “Emory Andrew Tate III was born on 1 December 1986 at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C.” 750h+ (talk) 00:37, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
”In 2009, he gained his first championship when he won the British ISKA Full Contact Cruiserweight Championship in Derby, and Won the International Kickboxing Federation British belt and got ranked number one in his division in Europe.” Rephrase that sentence to “In 2009, he received his first championship when he won the British ISKA Full Contact Cruiserweight Championship in Derby, won the International Kickboxing Federation British belt and received the top rank in his division across Europe.” 750h+ (talk) 01:09, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
”Tate is considered to be a "manosphere" and "alpha male" influencer. The Conversation described him as a longstanding "thought leader" in the online manosphere community, and able to mobilise his supporters to spread his brand and messages to a broader audience. He has also been described as a right-wing and far-right influencer, tied to far-right ideology, as well as connected to the far-right, including the prominent British far-right activist Tommy Robinson. He otherwise identifies as a libertarian.” To make this paragraph more readable, rephrase to something like: "Tate is known as an influencer in the 'manosphere' and 'alpha male' community. According to The Conversation, he's a recognized 'thought leader' in the online manosphere, able to mobilise his supporters to spread his ideas widely. Tate is also associated with right-wing and far-right ideologies and has ties to the far-right, including connections with the British activist Tommy Robinson. He otherwise identifies himself as a libertarian." 750h+ (talk) 01:32, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for this paragraph suggestion, I was never happy with it but struggled with improving it. Hopefully this is better now. I otherwise returned the "fuck you money" part of quote, with wikitionary link for context, as it's not just about having a lot of money, but the way you present yourself with it (roughly speaking), also per WP:NOTCENSORED. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 13:29, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
” He has stated that women "belong in the home", that they "can't drive",[70] and that they are "given to the man and belong to the man",[16] as well as claiming that men prefer dating 18- and 19-year-olds, because they are "likely to have had sex with fewer men", in order to "make an imprint" on teenagers,[71] and that women who do not stay at home are "hoes".” Can we chop this up into two or three sentences? 750h+ (talk) 01:37, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done Have made a variety of changes in this section. Two sentences moved to opening paragraph, that didn't fit were they were previously, and better suited to an opening paragraph style summary. Paragraph starting with/based on 2017 content moved above 2019 content for consistency + due. The sentence in question has been split into two with wordiness removed, so this should read a lot better now. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 14:15, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Searching for this, there are only really a couple sources I could find: [8][9]. Pinkvilla isn't considered particularly reliable (pretty sure it's a copy and paste of this article as well), and ironically Muay Thai Records hasn't verified the fight. The fight however did exist as per RXF video: [10], so thinking a combination of MTR and YT for verification, thoughts? CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 14:37, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most references are of high quality or good quality; excluding the Twitter ones, however two of them are quoting a minor argument had by Greta Thunberg and Tate, so I'm letting it go. Pass750h+ (talk) 02:07, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cite 95: "In October, a report by UK domestic abuse charity Women's Aid described Tate's content as a proxy for misogyny and sexism, claiming "the popularity of Tate is not a phenomenon in and of itself and, instead, is a current representation of existing misogyny". A survey by ORB International found 40 per cent of 7-18 year-olds had heard of Tate, including 21 per cent of 7-11 year-olds and otherwise 43-53 per cent of 11-18 year-olds. The report found a correlation between being exposed to Tate's content and having harmful perceptions of relationships," Mashable Done750h+ (talk) 02:31, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cite 52: "According to Rolling Stone, a guiding principle of the group is to attain multiple passports and citizenships, to achieve autonomy from "The Matrix", describing the group as a "fraternity-like organization"." Rolling Stone Done750h+ (talk) 02:31, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is well-written, sourced, and illustrated. We did have to come to some compromises, however it is overall good. Congratulations CommunityNotesContributor and DFlhb, for bringing this article to such high quality. After you address the final minor flaws, I will check over the article and promote it to GA. If I'm correct, you can receive the Million Award. 750h+ (talk) 14:54, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds great, appreciate the effort you put in. With that missing citation I think that's everything in the review covered, unless I'm missing something then let me know? Never heard of that award before 😊 CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 15:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The million award is awarded to anybody who gets a page which has over a million page views annually to good or featured article status. There is also the half-million award (500k annual page views), quarter million award (250k annual page views) and the three-quarter million award (750k annual page views). 750h+ (talk) 15:14, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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