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No mention is made of the opening credits which really give away the ambitions of the film as an anti-war anti-violence movie.
The Plot Section is supposed to tell the movie plot, not to be a "fully referenced" array of loose citations. I rewrote it to see if it pleases this movie fans which keep editing this article based on their personal tastes. Please do not start another revert war and bring your points of view to the discussion section. Thank you! Fernando K
I'd like to suggest that as of the time of this writing, the following from the article is incorrect: "...although not having yet encountered the enemy, Stransky has already emptied the magazine of his MP40." In fact, in there are at least two enemies charging at Stransky across the train tracks, and there may even be a few enemies at which he's shooting before then...so although yes, his magazine is empty, he has in fact been shooting at enemies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.223.87.8 (talk) 03:27, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Please read the considerations below before editing! This article seems to attract some curious overzealous unidentified users that keep editing it to their personal beliefs of relevant or not, bad understood wikipedia policies etc.
I have seen some comments about this article featuring more than one frame (screenshot) from the movie. What I noticed was that Jaws has three frames from the movie and nonetheless it is a featured article, therefore it must comply with Wikipedia policies. If you take a look at Summer of '42, it also has two frames from the movie, but it is also a featured article. Fernando K 16:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Other interesting point is that the first picture here (of James Coburn) is described as part of a poster for the movie. I watched the movie again and it really does not match any scene in particular, so it is not a frame. In fact the whole movie is not so colorful, having a sepia tone. Fernando K 00:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
See also [[1]], limited number, not "one". The only place that mentions that there is a maximum of one screenshot per article is the upload tool, and as pointed out above, this rule has been ignored in featured articles. Fernando K 17:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Forrest Gump has 6 screenshots from the movie, and nonetheless one of them is referenced in the official Wikipedia policy on Images. Take a look please... Fernando K 18:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
...or we can start fight about this? With all respect, I believe that my additions on Wiki are based on facts as much as yours. 87.116.141.96 16:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello Mr. Dorosh, I am th on who wrote the bulk of this article, which seems to have been endlessly edited since it was only a stub. I appreciate your comments and I am surprised that no one (includng you) criticized the fact that I have not mentioned the young Russian boy - except when I mentioned the scene where he comes back from the dead and his MP-40 jams saving Stransky, linking it to a passage in the book in which the Prussian officer reprimends Steiner for abandoning his allegedly superior MP-40 for a PPsH.
Please note that even though I agree with you that the Hitler Jugende kids are not obviously climbing Mt. Elbrus, the Gerbigjäger troops which did climb Mt. Elbrus did it during the large Southern Front offensive in 1942 (Case Blue, I think) which led among other things to the approach to Stalingrad.
Please don't say that my claim that the aircraft are Corsairs to be a speculation - it is just a comment that they are not obviously WWII Russian aircraft such as the common Sturmovik. The rest of the props are very likely to be genuine and/or later unlicensed copies by the Yugoslavian Army. Maybe some Corsairs went to Russia as lend-lease, what do you think? ;^D
In fact Stranksy lets quite clear to Steiner that he is under pressure from his family to get the Iron Cross - as for himself, he would rather be back in France. Someone long ago removed by beautiful original research that Stranky's pursuit for a medal, regardless of his methods, is quite incomprehensible to the rest of the German soldiers around him, such as the politicians motives to wage war is likewise incomprehensible to the population in general. I believe some note should be made about this deep cultural difference between Stransky and the landsers around him, without being original research. Fernando K 02:09, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok there seems to be a lot of reverting going on with changes on the article page, can we hold back for a while and come to some consensus amongst the editors and in accordance with wikipedia policy as to how to handle this correctly. Pluke 20:59, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
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There was a statement affirming the authenticity of the films T-34/85 as being likely to have been in the battle. I struck that comment in favor of the T-34 Model 1943 being the likely tank to have been in battle in the Taman Peninsula. The T-34/85 hit the front line in April of 1944 by my source. I am open to any other thoughts on that.
The commentary on the DVD placed the film around March-April 1943. I tend to agree based on the information available. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Remark knights (talk • contribs) 05:19, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Are there any sources identifying the attack aircraft which appear at about one hour 3 minutes into the film? They seem to bear a resemblance to the Vought F4U Corsair, which, as far as I can tell, did not see service with Soviet air forces during WW2. Arcanicus (talk) 02:54, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Found some more opinions in various forums that agree with both of you. Now if only we could find some "authoritative" source to be quoted & referenced. Or is it too small a point for the effort? Arcanicus (talk) 07:10, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
If someone describes what they see take place in the movie without placing any personal value judgements on what they're describing do "we" dismiss that description of the action or the plot as "original research" is they do not provide documentation (a cited published work) showing that someone else had previously said the same thing in a recognized publication elsewhere?
Would it be considered "original research" for someone to describe Steiner as a German soldier if they did so without providing documentation (a cited published work) showing that someone else had previously described Steiner as a German soldier in print?
Where is the line drawn? Thanks. (71.22.47.232 (talk) 04:44, 25 April 2010 (UTC))
While waiting for an anticipated attack, Steiner releases the young Russian only to see the boy killed by advancing Soviet troops.
The Russian boy is still alive in the closing scene of the film, laughing at Stansky's inability to reload his machine pistol.Frisianfields (talk) 20:09, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you both for your replies. "Stransky shows that he doesn't know how to reload and pitifully begs Steiner for help. Steiner at first berates Stransky then begins to laugh hysterically as Stransky attempts to put his helmet on back-to-front, as the Russian boy-soldier (as a ghost) shrugs." http://www.filmannex.com/movie/cross-of-iron/7430 Frisianfields (talk) 00:08, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
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The film is reviewed in "Germany's Heroic Victims"; BE Crim - Heroism and Gender in War Films, 2014 - Springer.
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Now all of you got to listen Breakthrough is now classificed an unoffical sequel it's not 100% canon to Cross of Iron nor does follow the correct timelines as why can Stransky still be alive he was already left for dead on the battlefield. and Steiner goes missing in action, the reason I am confirming it Breakthrough is an unoffical sequel not 100% canon as it's a unoffical knock off remake to the original.
Leave that on here because we need proof that Breakthrough has been confirmed to not be 100% canon to Cross of Iron's timeline. Trooper201 (talk) 23:21, 25 May 2019 (UTC)