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I think the current page should be moved to a different title, since the current one is rather redundant. A derecho is already a storm complex, and "storm complex" article titles are already used for storms with multiple hazard types, including derechos. I might suggest something along the lines of "Mid-December 2021 North American storm complex," though I'm not set on any particular title. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:20, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Could I upload this GIF? This is a radar image of the storm complex and derecho.
However, if this is not efficient, then I can upload a different GIF related to this. Severestorm28 14:55, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Should we add the two deaths caused by the 2021 Kansas wildfire outbreak (which would increase the death toll in the info box to 7?) 108.170.65.170 (talk) 23:28, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
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December 2021 Midwest derecho and tornado outbreak → December 2021 North American storm complex – This storm has 4 parts, a winter storm in the west that caused a significant amount of snowfall, a windstorm in the Great Plains killing 3, a derecho further east and a tornado outbreak. The name as is is kind of long and a hit unnatural and doesn’t take into consideration the whole storm. But this new title would. 69.118.232.58 (talk) 20:19, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Support I agree with Lightanddark200's statement, the article name is a "Wordy" name right now, Making it harder to find via searches. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyclonicpot (talk • contribs) 18:27, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Oppose The derecho and tornado outbreak have more importance by far compared to the non-thunderstorm winds and snow. Any tornado outbreak page could be renamed into a 'storm complex' article since those outbreaks are typically coming as part of a bigger system with other impacts. However, they're referred to as tornado outbreak pages because that's the most notable aspect. Same thing here. The NCDC entry likewise lists the event as "Midwest derecho and tornado outbreak." TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 18:45, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Oppose proposed title because it is too broad. It would require disambiguation with Tornado outbreak of December 10–11, 2021. I'm neutral on moving it to a "storm complex" title, but it would have to be more specific than the one proposed. TornadoLGS (talk) 18:50, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Weak support I get that the derecho and tornado outbreak stand out from everything else but I’m not really sure how changing the title will make a huge difference. I would consider it a notable complex but I don’t really support changing the title that much but it would be okay. IBlazeCat (talk) 21:19, 13 February 2022 (UTC)iBlazeCat
Oppose – per TAWX13. United States Man (talk) 23:12, 14 February 2022 (UTC)