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Why is this section in this article? It doesn't fit in with the rest of the text and includes a link to a phantom entry graphics whore. I intend to remove it shortly if no-one can defend it's existance. Markb 07:41, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't fanboi redirect to fanboy? and not this article? - Abscissa 13:14, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
It probably shouldn't be in at all. Since the basic definition of "fanboy" is "fan of something the commentor does not like." All the talk about social ineptitude seems to stem from that basic premise--since the speaker does not acknowledge the value of the fan's "darling", the speaker flatly reports that the fan is wasting his time, wasting his life, not social, etc. "How can he be social when he doesn't SKI like me?" Meanwhile the comic reader is whispering "Pathetic ski fanboy." It's an inherently invective term without any real delineation to it other than the speaker's personal tastes. 24.33.28.52 20:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Why is this page at Fan (aficionado) rather than Fan (person) or something similar? Also, even if it's going to be aficianado, shouldn't the title include the accent marks? --tjstrf 23:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
i think that fangirls are described perfectly, as a fangirl myself I dont see anything wrong the post because it is all true and well that is not biased since it seems to have more objective statements rather thatn subjective
Hiya I added two paragraphs on fandom, including comparing fans to religious worshippers and providing an explanation for what makes a program have lots of fans. Does this qualify as orginal research? - Be Bold!
I don't really care but this article does seem a tad baised agaisnt Fangirls. I really don't care for them but the article should be a bit more balanced. For instance, where it says some fangirls claim to be in a relationship with anime characters maybe it should be added that it is some times said only in jest...
Just my 2 cents
The notion that "fan" is short for "fanatic" is given short shrift in this article. Actually, the theory has much to reccomend it.
Also possible: "Fan" (more commonly "fanny" nowadays)is historically speaking a dismissive anatomical term, at present meaning "butt" and yet more anciently it was a derogatory term for female genitals. Calling someone a fan was at one time like calling someone an asshole or a cunt -- it meant the person in question was a jerk, a fool, a mindless follower. Tom129.93.17.139 22:04, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
"Fan" is short for "fanatic" [1] - I have no idea why this article is here instead of at Fanatic. Can anybody provide a good reason? If not, I think a move is in order. Waggers 11:22, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Where the attribution for the alleged Jonas Bros. stalker that's cited in the 2d paragraph of this entry? Sounds like some vandalism going on here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.251.169.69 (talk) 19:49, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
The entire Japanese Pop Culture Fangirls section, but especially the second, sounds like someone's personal vendetta. No citations, original research, and completely embarrassing besides. I'm not sure it's even possible to provide citations for broad claims like these--fans are by no means a unified group. I'm new to Wikipedia, so I'm not entirely sure what to do about this, but honestly I'd like to just delete that paragraph until someone can write a useful replacement? Peachke 18:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
I've added the date of the earliest known use of fanboy, according to Merriam-Webster. Unfortunately, I don't have access to the full dictionary so can't expand on it - if someone else has a subscription they could add more info and also sort out the ((fact)) tag on "originating in the United States". ∙ AJCham talk 06:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Move Fan (person) to Fanatical enthusiast Mr Taz (talk) 17:25, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
I tagged this as dubious: Trekkies, the oldest organized fandom focused around a particular show.... Off the top of my head, I can think of relatively organized "fan clubs" of the Lone Ranger, Flash Gordon, and Little Orphan Annie which preceded the "Trekkies" by decades. I'm willing to concede to a reliable source on this, but I think it's a fairly dubious, unsupported claim at this point. 67.160.71.165 (talk) 17:34, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
The word "fan" predates 1550 by 200 years, to the time of the Black Plague. It was widely believed that the plague was introduced as a punishment from God, and so then many cults appeared, traveling from town to town preaching these beliefs. One of the most prevalent, appearing throughout Germany, Poland, Austria, Italy, France, and England, would, while traveling, perform flagellation (whipping oneself--an act of self contrition). The English peasantry likened this behaviour to "fanning ones self" and so they were for a time called "Fanners" or "Bloody Fanners". Scholars latter attempted to dignify this rustic term in a "meaningful" English/Latin/Greek format, by using the word "Fanatic" to describe various behaviours that have been noted at the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dæmonium (talk • contribs) 17:42, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
It is sad that nobody wrote about religious fans. I am not an expert on the subject, and this may be related to the article on religious fanaticism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minsk380 (talk • contribs) 19:44, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
I really don't understand the structure of this article... aren't science-fiction fans a 'type' of fans? And why are professional wrestling fans not included in the 'sport' section? Isn't it classified as a sport? Granted I know nothing about wrestling, but for the science-fiction bit, I think it needs to be changed... And incorporated into a 'media' section.
Anyways, unless someone disagrees, would it be ok to change the structure of the article? If yes, any ideas? Juniper4589 (talk) 10:09, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
I don't even know anybody over the age of 17 who uses these words, let alone anyone who would consider them appropriate discussion topics in an encyclopaedia. Barely notable to be the first "type" of fan discussed either - At least merge these two sections.
I've just altogether removed the fanboy/fangirl section (as well as the last sentence of the "Loyalty" section as it appears to have been written by the same author). The entire thing was written condescendingly. That being said, it is a significant term in the Internet subculture, so it could certainly have its own place on this page if someone could manage to write it with a slightly more objective description of a fanboy/fangirl.Grillnick (talk) 05:16, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
There's a note on the page about a proposed merge with Fandom - since 2012, apparently - but I don't see any discussion of it here. Am I missing something? Ubermammal (talk) 14:07, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Much of this article reads as if it had been written by the very fanboys it purports to define... bias, slang, un-encyclopedic language, in-jokes, etc. PurpleChez 6/18/15 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.249.207.195 (talk) 19:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
The usage and primary topic of fan is under discussion, see talk:mechanical fan -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 06:19, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
I think the section on sports fans is missing a crucial piece: sports fans aren't just highly interested in a subject like sci-fi fans are. The essential element is competition. These are people playing out the fundamental human tendency to form groups of "us" and "them", and then to compete. I find it telling how Europe used to fight small wars every few years, usually without serious rancor. The wars stopped, but sports have stepped in and taken their place. That's where these rabid sports fans come in, willing to do serious harm to opposing fans. These games are representative of national or regional pride, and the fans take things very, very seriously. It's not just about enjoying the game. It's a deep-seated psychological tendency in many people; they HAVE to feel like they are part of a group, and that their group is triumphant, or at least won't stop fighting no matter how often they loose. Basically, it's another form of patriotism. AnnaGoFast (talk) 02:10, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
The Adoring Fan is a relevant discussion topic with respect to fandom. Anybody in our culture who has heard of the Elder Scrolls Franchise knows of the Adoring fan - and he should absolutely be recognized. He is, in fact, and adoring FAN. Fans are this pages ethos, and we ought to respect that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:AF30:3240:2553:74C7:A6B7:58C4 (talk) 02:50, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
I suggest adding a section on music fans. Think Beatlemania, band merchandise, groupies, collectors, concertgoing etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trees&Headphones (talk • contribs) 10:16, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
I agree - it really should have this. There are many specific music fans with special names as stated above. Think "deadheads" for greatful dead fans etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Niwrat (talk • contribs) 22:49, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm planning on expanding the music section over the next couple days TaskManager (talk) 22:36, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
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"Trekkies are fans focused on the Star Trek science fiction franchise. Arising out of science fiction fandom they, to some extent, have served as a template for other organized fandoms in the science fiction television and film genres. Some "Trekkies" prefer to be referred to as "Trekkers" as they feel the term "Trekkies" was used in the past as a derogatory name for them and they hope to avoid the traditional stigma sometimes associated with being known as a "Trekkie". Many "old school" fans of the Star Trek universe defiantly, and proudly, refer to themselves, and other Star Trek fans, as "Trekkies" rather than the kinder, gentler "Trekkers" name used by many of the newer generations of Star Trek fans."
"In the past"? I hadn't realized it had stopped being used as a derogatory phrase. People who look down on Star Trek fans are likely to do so whether they call themselves "Trekkies" or "Trekkers". Besides, I don't think they're going to let you decide what they are going to call you. They're going to call you a "Trekkie" whether you want them too or not. AnnaGoFast (talk) 02:02, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
There is a strong total of 13 quotes in the fanboy section and 2 new quotes in the fangirl section. This suggests that the fangirl section was quickly written as an afterthought, with much of it, including it's structure, resulting from comparison to the fanboy section. This is wrong. (If you are asking why, you should read Simone de Beauvoir's The Second Sex)
Furthermore it has been suggested that some girls exhibit signs of fanboydom (e.g. in sports) and vice versa. Therefore I have eliminated gender references in both sections and moved any gender specifics into the newly established Societal gender roles section.
The result however, while being a lot less biased looks a bit like swiss cheese. I'd agree to and expand on the earlier proposal in the talk item "Biased?" by proposing a complete scrap-and-rewrite of the gender stereotypes section. Strikefinger (talk)
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