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Can someone verify the 3000 tornadoes? that sounds like an awfully high number.
I put this as a B. Nonetheless there is a lot to be done here - inline references would be a good start, with a little more on storm history, restructuring of the 3 impact sections, maybe a separate "preparations" and "aftermath" sections. Jdorje 20:47, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
I say that this is a c because someone doing a report or term of the sort might need more information like when the hurricane hit time date category before and after it hit and scale on the damage. Thus making it easier to gather such information and getting everything one would need to know.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:(({1))}|(({1))}]] ([[User talk:(({1))}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/(({1))}|contribs]]) .
I restructured the article quite a bit. The new structure is much better but some of the sections need to be expanded. The one-paragraph sections should most likely be expanded rather than removed. — jdorje (talk) 05:59, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Can we have a deaths-by-region table? http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdeadlyapp1.shtml lists it as Guadeloupe, Montserrat, South Carolina. — jdorje (talk) 05:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, I might have found a source. This site says the storm had 3000 embedded tornadoes. However, the official NOAA answer to the most tornadoes from a hurricane was Ivan with 117, far less than Hugo's supposed 3000. I propose we get rid of it. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I think there's a big difference between spawned tornadoes and embedded tornadoes. We don't even know that much about the latter phenomenon, so for all we know 3000 could be correct. Pobbie Rarr 21:09, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi -- I added a couple of external links. If you review the 1994 report, most of the severe damage was attributed to microbursts, based on aerial observations of the damage patterns. It seems to be a common misconception that there are a lot of tornadoes associated with the strongest hurricane winds, which may be because it is the only frame of reference that an observer has to comprehend what is occuring. For instance, a woman quoted in the Sun Herald said of Katrina that when it came ashore she saw tornadoes all around her. Margie 20:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
It's hard to tell because one of them is rotated, but aren't the two images in the article showing the storm in the exact same position? Also, the first one in the infobox is unsourced. I found the best Hugo image at this site [1], but I don't know if we can use it here. Good kitty 00:39, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
The intro has it at 82, but all other mentions are at 76. Thanos6 (talk) 04:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
This is it? Really, disgusting..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.242.120 (talk) 05:42, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
DumZiBoT (talk) 02:01, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
This sentence was tacked onto the end of the paragraph in the FEMA criticism section. I removed it because it just doesn't seem to really work there. Its sort of off topic: "However, FEMA was criticized severely in 2005 for its similarly insufficient response to Hurricane Katrina, while private relief agencies and corporations such as Wal-Mart were praised for their prompt and comprehensive response to the disaster. FEMA's relevancy was questioned in Katrina's aftermath."
September 2009 marks the 20th anniversary of Hurricane Hugo, the very devastating storm which caused extensive damage and death through Puerto Rico, the Virgins, Leewards, South Carolina and western North Carolina. Please give insights on Hurricane Hugo, September 1989 vs 2009 and what would happen should similar hurricanes hit today.
The UWEC Class under 173.19.119.172 (talk) 02:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
And, now it's the 30th Anniversary of Hurricane Hugo Infinitive01 (talk) 03:32, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't have a source for this handy, but I remember 65 MPH sustained winds and 89 MPH gusts (that's official, but based on the damage some places surely had worse than that). That's not even hurricane velocity! You go by sustained winds, not gusts. Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:03, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
I did a search and finally found confirmation of what I believed. Different sources have different wind speeds, though. I'm almost afraid to ask what The Charlotte Observer will do. Someone found a source for that Category 3 hurricane statement. It was the Observer! But not a staff writer. I contacted someone quoted in the article, since the writer had no contact information. Hopefully in a couple of months, we'll get the real story.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
I lived in Charlotte at the time, it was certainly more than 54 mph sustained and there was clearly an eye. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/hugo/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.132.54.218 (talk) 19:54, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
I feel that the in-air emergency aboard NOAA 42 while doing a mission into the storm belongs in this article, maybe in the section along with the info about Queen Elizabeth II?
In case you have never heard of it... http://www.wunderground.com/resources/education/hugo1.asp ZachofMS (talk) 10:44, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
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Both places saw category 4 effects. Article is quite long. @SMB99thx, Jasper Deng, Cyclonebiskit, Hurricanehink, I like hurricanes, KN2731, Destroyeraa, and Weatherman27: thoughts? --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 17:30, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Given that Hugo largely only affected the Carib and the US, I don't think it needs sub-articles for the Carib and the US. That would split off almost everything in the article. There are 16 paragraphs of impact covering the Caribbean, covering $3 billion worth of impacts. I don't think there should be one for the entire US, we don't tend to have those articles - ones for Hurricane Noel and Dorian got either merged or split to focus on a state. Since SC was the most heavily impacted area, it having five paragraphs of info doesn't seem too significant, compared to the 16 for the Carib. Going strictly by what would split off the most, I'd suggest a sub-article for the Caribbean. Thanks TheAustinMan for adding so much info about the Carib. It pushed the article to 150 kb, which is a bit too long. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:06, 20 November 2020 (UTC)