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As most of the people here are talking about the false representation of the insignia of Director, Intelligence Bureau. I would humbly like to remind them that eventhough the Director, IB is not in the same scale of pay as a General in the Indian Army (Whose scale of pay is equivalent to the Cabinet Secretary, at Rs 90000) his insignia still maintains to the level of CO Army. Director, IB does't wear his uniform because Intelligence Bureau doesn't have a system made for it but kindly keep this in mind that he is entitled and he does have a general raked four (4) star plate and a also a four(4) star car flag on his car which indeed is of the same stature as of CO Army which ofcourse fully permits him to wear "State emblem surmounting star and crossed batons". Moreover if you are aware that the Civil Service Pay Commission is no longer applicable to the Indian Armed Forces as they have initiated to start another and separate pay commission of their own maybe because of the conflict between IAS and army. So, lets assume if the new armed forces pay commission decides to rasie the salary of general to a lakh would that mean he is above the cabinet secretary? I doubt it. It's not about pay scale it's about insignia so dont shuffle them up!
Refer to http://persmin.nic.in/ais/B11new.htm if you wish to verify! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.133.47 (talk) 08:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
This article is repeatedly being targeted by certain persons, and incorrect information is being posted. The so called "equivalencies" with army ranks being posted are entirely incorrect.
1. Whereas the Director, IB, is listed as "Equivalent to General in the Army", this is incorrect. In the first place, the Director, IB is not in the same scale of pay as a General in the Indian Army (Whose scale of pay is equivalent to the Cabinet Secretary, at Rs 90000).
2. Whereas Lt. Cols are in Pay Band 4, with a grade pay of Rs. 8000, while the police rank listed as "Equivalent to Lt Col" is in Pay band 3, with a grade pay of 7600.
3. Whereas DSP's are not equivalent to Captains in the Indian Army, who are in Pay Band 3, with a grade pay of 6100, while IPS DSP's are in PB3, with GP5400, equivalent to Lt.'s in the Indian Army.
4. There can be no equivalency between army and police, the one being a military organisation and the other a civilian service.
5. In view of the fact that these factual inaccuracies are being touted as fact, this article should be marked for speedy deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.244.156 (talk) 14:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
It is correctly mentioned below that the rank of the Director, Intelligence Bureau is tenable by an officer in the Apex scale, 6th CPC onwards. It is NOT held by an officer in the cabinet scale, which is what persons who are writing "Director IBs insignia is State emblem surmounting star and crossed batons" are trying to project. Please see PP 466 of the 6th Central Pay commission report, which clearly enumerates the fact that the Director IB is in the pre revised scale of Rs. 26000. Only FOUR governments servants in all of India are in the cabinet scale: The cabinet secretary, the COAS, the CNS, the Chief of Air Staff. The Director IB is a hallowed institution. Do not cheapen it by lying about the rank, in a false state of envy.
Please see —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.63.75.210 (talk) 10:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
The director of the intelligence bureau, should he choose to wear uniform, is in the rank and pay of a DGP. Some uninformed or motivated elements have chosen to try and portray the emblem worn by them on their shoulder straps as being the "State emblem over one star and crossed swords and baton". This is completely incorrect. This emblem is worn only by the Chief of Army staff, and is not authorised for the use of any police officer. The pay grade required for the wearing of this emblem is the highest, equivalent to that of the cabinet secretary. No police officer has been authorised for this grade, according to the sixth pay commission. Any attempts to suggest otherwise are extremely wishful thinking, Im afraid. Aspuar (talk)Aditya —Preceding undated comment was added at 17:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC).
THis is kind of confusing. All India Services says there are three All India Services, Foreign, Police and Administrative. This page seems to contradict that. It would be nice if someone more knowledgeable would fix these two so they don't contradict each other.
which book we are refer ops exam ?
What is the process for recruitment? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Don62joe (talk • contribs) 08:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC).
This article needs to be NPOV'd. Talking about a glorious vision and hardly in consonance with democratic principles constitutes POV terminology. I will rewrite some sections if no one objects. Walton monarchist89 17:42, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
The following sections were removed from the main page because they are far more POV and polemic than informative. I'm inclined to wonder if they were lifted from an editorial page. I'm sure this can be rewritten by someone knowledgeable about the matter while maintaining an encyclopedic tone, but until then this needs to stay on the Talk page.
*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 17:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
The third and fourth paragraphs need changing big time. I don't know much about the Indian Police however.
article seems to be rather biased against IPS.
Seems absolutely biased against the IPS.
The purpose of the article is to provide objective information about the service. The section "System and work" is highly subjective and degrads the quality of the article.
Hence, deleting it.
Geeteshgadkari 09:35, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 18:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Experts say the Indian police force is underfunded and poorly trained.[2] One analysis does not warrant such a statement. Besides, almost every organization in the world is funded less than what it desires. Talk about POV. I shall take down this statement in a week. --Sayitaintsojoe (talk) 16:16, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
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As most of the people here are talking about the false representation of the insignia of Director, Intelligence Bureau. I would humbly like to remind them that eventhough the Director, IB is not in the same scale of pay as a General in the Indian Army (Whose scale of pay is equivalent to the Cabinet Secretary, at Rs 90000) his insignia still maintains to the level of CO Army. Director, IB does't wear his uniform because Intelligence Bureau doesn't have a system made for it but kindly keep this in mind that he is entitled and he does have a general raked four (4) star plate and a also a four(4) star car flag on his car which indeed is of the same stature as of CO Army which ofcourse fully permits him to wear "State emblem surmounting star and crossed batons". Moreover if you are aware that the Civil Service Pay Commission is no longer applicable to the Indian Armed Forces as they have initiated to start another and separate pay commission of their own maybe because of the conflict between IAS and army. So, lets assume if the new armed forces pay commission decides to rasie the salary of general to a lakh would that mean he is above the cabinet secretary? I doubt it. It's not about pay scale it's about insignia so dont shuffle them up! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaiddauji (talk • contribs) 11:06, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
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OK, I came across this page by accident on Huggle and thought I would start a discussion to try and prevent an edit war. Why is someone inserting information about the police against the army? I really don't see how that's of relevance to the article? However I don't have any knowledge of the article and certainly not of the indian police. Please discuss the matter here, hopefully we can reach a resolution :) --5 albert square (talk) 21:12, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
I certainly agree with you. However, as far as Talk:Indian Police Service page is concerned I have only discussed about the insignia of the senior most Indian Police Service officer, that is Director of Intelligence Bureau which was portrayed as a less senior 4 star rank when compared with the Army General in this respective article. Other than that I feel there seem to be no conflict among the two services. *Truth* (talk) 04:29, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
There is recently some edits what are kind of chronological news collection about any news what happened connected with the IPS. Especially into Concerns section. Considering to what Wikipedia is not policies WP:NOT, especially WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NOTEVERYTHING, there need to be removing of content, especially individual cases what does not infulence overall functioning (to it is not huge thing what is really worthy to be added considering to this is one Encycolopedia) of this institution and more care about that is exactly added in future considering to this is general overview article. 178.221.116.203 (talk) 02:37, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Logical seems. And yeap. Seems as some strange different agenda is pushed here. AnAnicolaidis (talk) 18:27, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
I also agree with previous users that the page needs overhaul as majority of the content here is about the problems, controversies and shortcomings rather than giving information about the IPS. The entire article is disconnected and mismatched attack against the institution itself. And if there are any evidence of corruption in the IPS, there absolutely should be a section on it but the current standing is not Encycolopedia like. NotPixel (talk) 15:40, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 18 January 2023 and 14 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Reneemessinger (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Aakashpathak1, OjusG.
— Assignment last updated by Adirrao (talk) 22:05, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Hello,sir 2.88.118.59 (talk) 11:05, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
A Master's Degree in Criminal Justice Management will be awarded to IPS officers after 2 years of training in SVPNPA. Please see "IPS probationers to become 'masters in criminal justice management'" and "MOU's with Other Institutes" Debdeepghosh2003 (talk) 14:17, 7 January 2024 (UTC)