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I deleted info about "Reuter's travel" because it has nothing to do with Pavel Schilling's inventionSea diver 07:18, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Again, Flammingo, your information has nothing to do with Schilling's apparatus, which was invented and tested in 1832.Note, that this is a biographical article, not an article about "fastest promouter of the electrical telegraphy". Sea diver 06:34, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Is he Argentinian or Montenegrin? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.14.248.102 (talk) 18:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
This article lists four different names. The title is not mentioned directly anywhere in the article, and it is not made clear whether his first name is commonly romanized. Cup o’ Java (talk • edits) 02:42, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Did baron schilling have children or get married Bjohns8586 (talk) 19:31, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Who were baron schilling's parents Bjohns8586 (talk) 19:31, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
What was baron schilling's occupation and inventions and education and what awards did he win Bjohns8586 (talk) 19:32, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:49, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
5x expanded by Spinningspark (talk). Self-nominated at 15:43, 2 May 2020 (UTC).
Not sure why User:Spinningspark feels like reversions of their recent changes to the styles used previously have to be taken to talk while their own edits don't, but regardless, they've exceeded 3RR now. Please explain why you changed from full dates in the lede to abbreviated, and from single-column for the short list of notes to multiple columns. -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:45, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
The article, quite disappointing, focuses exclusively on Schilling's telegraph, and says almost nothing about his principal, ex officio work at the printing house (1818-1823) and the Board of Cyphers (1823-1837) of the Foreign Affairs, and his work in cryptography. It was naturally hidden from contemporary foreign observers, but well researched later. Hope google can translate this or this more or less clearly. The first source also touches the less illustrious sides of his job (censorship and surveillance). His naval mine ideas - barely mentioned - did materialize, tested in 1815-1827 and fielded in 1833.
Also, the statement in the lede "The majority of his career was spent working for the imperial Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs as a language officer at the Russian embassy in Munich" is certainly incorrect and contradicts the main text ("... in Munich from 1809 to 1811"). Looks like a random error. Retired electrician (talk) 18:55, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
@Spinningspark: Baron Pavel Lvovitch Schilling (1786–1837), also known as Paul Schilling. Given that Pavel is the Slavic version of Paul, the note
is quite reasonable. The article Paul Schilling has the following note:
. This is not technology, but applied linguistics. Peter Horn User talk 13:42, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
In Spring 1835 Schilling's state of health rapidly deteriorated to the point when he had to request a permit to travel abroad for medical help.[1] Releasing the living carrier of state secrets required permission from the tsar.[1] With the help of Karl Nesselrode, in May 1835 Schilling secured his majesty's written consent which actually looked more like an industrial espionage mission, in areas from telegraphy to charcoal kilns.[2]
In September 1835 Schilling attended a conference in Bonn (another task from his majesty), and delivered a sample of his telegraph set to Georg Wilhelm Muncke. This was soon demonstrated to William Fothergill Cooke, who then contacted Michael Faraday and Charles Wheatstone.[3]
In 1836 Schilling supervised construction of an experimental underground telegraph line on the premises of the Admiralty, Saint Petersburg[4] (apparently he returned to Russia, but that's not written anywhere directly).
In same 1836 Schilling tested samples of telegraph cable laid under ground, under water and on overhead lines. The results clearly showed advantages of overhead, air-insulated lines.[4] Thus, when planning the Peterhof-Kronstadt line, Schilling insisted to make the submerged stretch as short as possible and run the rest of the distance on a coastal overhead line.[4] The proposal was rejected and ridiculed: a surface line, visible to general public, was deemed an unacceptable security breach.[4] The commission led by Alexander Sergeyevich Menshikov was adamant to keep his telecommunications secret.[4]
In May 1837 Schilling received government instructions to draw a budget for the Peterhof-Kronstadt line, and to begin preliminary field work.[5] By this time he already experienced regular pain from the tumour.[5] In the end of May 1837 Schilling contacted physician Nicholas Arendt (his childhood friend from Kazan years, now Life Medic to Nicholas I).[5] Arendt performed a surgery, which did not help; on August 6, 1837 Schilling died.[5] He was buried with honours at Smolenskoye cemetery in St. Petersburg[5] (it is not clear if it's Smolenskoye Orthodox or Smolenskoye Lutheran; actually, I could'n find any note on his religious affiliation).
All records, models and equipment left by Schilling passed to Moritz von Jacobi, who would build the first regular (rather than experimental) telegraph line in Russia, connecting the Winter Palace with the Army Headquarters, in 1841.[5]
Самохин, В. П.; Тихомирова, Е. А. (2017). "Памяти Павла Львовича Шиллинга (1786-1837)". Машиностроение и компьютерные технологии (10): 70–102. ((cite journal))
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Retired electrician (talk) 23:06, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
According to Yarotsky, by late 1820s Schilling was, indeed, morbidly obese, so a long travel to Siberia was not a bad idea. Retired electrician (talk) 14:27, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
"The building housing his apartment in St. Petersburg, then known as Ofrosimova's house, but now 7 Marsovue Pole, had a memorial plaque placed in 1886 to mark the centennial of his birth". This is actually The Adamini Building (commons:Category:Adamini House). Ofrosimova was just one of many owners: the building changed hands quite often, but it's not the point. It's about year. The Encyclopedia of Saint Petersburg dates it 1901, not 1886, and credits design of the plaque to Karl Baldi [1]. Centennial makes sense, but in 1886 Baldi was a second-year student. Apparently, Russian sources are in complete disarray. Retired electrician (talk) 20:30, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
@Spinningspark:, I suggest converting the refs to ((sfn)) and ((efn)) to tidy up References. Would you object or is it good to go? Retired electrician (talk) 07:30, 1 November 2020 (UTC)