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This article has been mentioned by a media organization: Omer Benjakob (2020-10-01). "The Second Intifada Still Rages on Wikipedia". Haaretz. Retrieved 2020-10-02. Beyond documenting the intifada itself as it happened, the article also documented something no less important: the battle over the narrative of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. This skirmish proved pivotal to Wikipedia's own history.

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Is it islamaphobic to describe the Noble sanctuary of Jerusalem as simply “Temple Mount”? Indigenous Muslim’s perspective should be considered for academic works, given our obligation toward objectivity. Also, there is no Temple Mount there right now, respectfully it is an Islamic noble sanctuary and should be described as such due to its holy status in sha Allāh. Right now, there is no active temple in sight Alhamdulliah.

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Change "Infrastructural attacks against Palestinian Authority targets such as police and prisons was another method to force the Palestinian Authority to repress the anti-Israeli protests and attacks on Israeli targets .[citation needed]" to add citation https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/legacy_files/files/media/csis/pubs/israelvspale_intafada%5B1%5D.pdf

"Israeli forces attacked terrorist infrastructure, refugee camps perceived as safehavens for terrorists, and facilities of the Palestinian Authority." Unicameral nado (talk) 03:13, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done This is not Israelopedia. Zero^talk 11:36, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As you can read in Suicide Bombings in Israel and Palestinian Terrorism By Michael V. Uschan (page 12), or other books of reference. Sharon visit was coordinated and accepted by Muslim clerics. This is an important information because the visit is presented as illegitimate and a deliberate provocation.--MrChandlier (talk) 14:21, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is a typo in the third paragraph "Sharon also agreed to release 900 Palestinian prisoners of the 7,500 being held at the time,[19] and to withdraw from West Bank towns that had been reoccupied durin the intifada." The typo is "durin" instead of "during". I cannot edit it and request for someone to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salvador the stupid (talk • contribs) 14:21, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ty! Fixed. ImTheIP (talk) 22:04, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The changes here are outrageous and I am reverting them. Going through a list:

• on Sharon's visit: changed

  The violence started in September 2000, after Ariel Sharon made a highly provocative visit to the Temple Mount.^[1] The visit itself was peaceful, but, as anticipated, it sparked protests and riots which the Israeli police put down with rubber bullets and tear gas.

  to

  The violence started in September 2000, after Ariel Sharon made a visit to the Temple Mount in the midst of a bitter dispute over the temple's rightful ownership.^[1] It sparked protests and riots among Arabs in Israeli and eventually spread to the West bank, which the Israeli police responded to with rubber bullets and tear gas.^[2]

  Sharon's visit is widely seen as provocative, eg an intentionally provocative visit to the contested Temple Mount
• removing "uprising", the a. translation of intifada, and b. a commonly used term in sources, again The intifadas were two Palestinian uprisings against Israe, [1] literally a thousand sources will confirm that.
• Muddying the order of operations saying that Israel "responded" to suicide bombings, whereas the initial violent response predated any suicide bombings. Part of a pattern of palestinian attack and israeli response that is not borne out in the sources.

nableezy - 17:44, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

responded is indeed a word used in the sources and precisely how they describe as the conflict playing out. uprising is an inappropriate, loaded term used primarily in popular sources (you provided Vox as an example) and not academic ones. And there's no question several sources describe the visit as provocative, the second version indicates why it was provocative rather than merely stating it was provocative. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 01:13, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What does popular source mean? How about BBC? How about NYTimes? How about Haaretz? How about Jerusalem Post? How about Times of Israel? Or Foreign Policy? Academic sources? Oh boy this is going to be a fun one.

• "Israeli Unilateralism and Israeli–Palestinian Relations, 2001–2006", International Studies Perspectives, 7 (4), Oxford University Press: 360–376, 2006, Israeli-Palestinian relations witnessed dramatic changes from 2001-2006. Sharon came to power, the second intifada (uprising) raged, Arafat died, Israel withdrew from Gaza ...
• Kurd, D.E. (2020). Polarized and Demobilized: Legacies of Authoritarianism in Palestine. OXFORD University Press. p. 3. ISBN 978-0-19-009586-4. When the five-year deadline for statehood passed, Palestinians launched a second intifada. This uprising was very different from the first in terms of character and outcomes: it was much less organized and achieved few of its political objectives. The disorganized nature of the second uprising also meant greater violence, as groups within Palestinian society found it harder to coordinate on common strategy and sanction spoilers.
• Ben-Ari, E.; Lerer, Z.; Ben-Shalom, U. (2010). Rethinking Contemporary Warfare: A Sociological View of the Al-Aqsa Intifada. SUNY series in Israeli Studies. State University of New York Press. ISBN 978-1-4384-3186-4. In the Al-Aqsa Intifada, the presence of the Palestinian police (or armed forces) has added a crucial dimension of armed aggression from that side. Much of the uprising has been organized and carried out by a variety of Palestinian security forces and militias (the Fatah's Tanzim, some of the security services, and the Hamas and Islamic Jihad). (a bunch more quotes, just a random one showing use of uprising)
• Beinin, J.; Stein, R.L.; Project, M.E.R.I. (2006). The Struggle for Sovereignty: Palestine and Israel, 1993-2005. Stanford Studies in Middle Eastern and I Series. Stanford University Press. p. 8. ISBN 978-0-8047-5365-4. The Al-Aqsa Intifada, as the uprising was named

And oh, the subtitle of this book:

• Dor, D. (2004). Intifada Hits the Headlines: How the Israeli Press Misreported the Outbreak of the Second Palestinian Uprising. Indiana University Press. ISBN 978-0-253-11073-2. Retrieved 2021-03-09.

I can literally bring 100 academic works using "uprising" interchangeably with "intifada" or defining it as an uprising. To say that it is not commonly found in academic works betrays an ignorance of the subject area that is just astonishing. nableezy - 04:29, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the short description change is nearly reportable imo. This short description is seemingly purposely untrue. Given that this article covers acts in Ramallah, Bethlehem, and that one of the most notable events of the intifida was the so-called Battle of Jenin, none of which are in Israel. This game of making massive changes, all with a very obvious POV slant, to articles where you very obviously do not have even a basic level of knowledge of the topic really needs to stop. nableezy - 19:37, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Crickets. At least silence is better than making things up. nableezy - 17:23, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea under what reason you wrote that the intifada was a "uprising". Murdering, massacring and committung genocide against innocent peoplr is not "uprising". Many innocent Israelis (and many of them were children from the age of 0 to 18) were brutally murdered by Palestinian terrorists. This is not an uprising. This was a genocide. Please correct this one. Daniel LMSDF (talk) 12:05, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We write that because that is what the sources say. I am unaware of a single serious source calling the intifada a genocide. Absent that, this goes past the purpose of the talk page to discuss the article and pretty far in to WP:NOTFORUM territory. nableezy - 22:48, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The request to rename this article to Second Intifada has been carried out. If the page title has consensus, be sure to close this discussion using ((subst:RM top|'''page moved'''.)) and ((subst:RM bottom)) and remove the ((Requested move/dated|…)) tag, or replace it with the ((subst:Requested move/end|…)) tag.

Al-Aqsa Intifada → Second Intifada – clearly the WP:COMMONNAME. This article was moved from Second Intifada in a 2019 requested move. There, Greyshark09 argued that the current title is "the most common name in international high-quality sources", and linked a BBC article, Al Jazeera article and JSTOR article. The page was moved after nobody else commented.

The opposite is true: Second Intifada is the far more common name. A Google search turns up 3,830,000 results for "Second Intifada" and 721,000 results for "Al-Aqsa Intifada". Likewise, the Books Ngram Viewer shows that Second Intifada is roughly six times more common in published English-language books, and since 2005 usage has clearly settled more heavily in favour Second Intifada (the BBC article Greyshark pointed to was from 2004). Within academia, JSTOR returns 11,481 results for "Second Intifada" and 2,705 results for "Al-Aqsa Intifada". I'm unconvinced by the argument that "Al-Aqsa Intifada" is used by a higher quality of sources: The Guardian has 654 results for Second Intifada vs 96 results. Both Foreign Policy and BBC, which were quoted by Greyshark, use Second Intifada more frequently. (Foreign Policy 154 mentions vs. 12 mentions; BBC 20 pages of results vs. 3 pages, mostly from 2005 or prior).

Second Intifada is also more easily recognisable for readers unfamiliar with the topic, as a chronological successor to the First Intifada. Jr8825 • Talk 07:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose - Al-Aqsa Intifada is the common name in English media for the event. Also, there have been several "Second" Intifada's in North Africa and the Middle East, collecting search results for all those events (Second Sahrawi Intifada for example) and citations specifically dealing with Palestinian conflict as a justification for renaming Al-Aqsa Intifada doesn't make any sense; it is more or less parallel to naming it the "Second Uprising", while there have been thousands of "Second Uprisings" worldwide historically. The "Second Intifada" was most accurately the Iraqi Intifada of 1952, while al-Aqsa Intifada was second only in the Palestinian context. If anything, we should make a more WP:CONCISE name for Palestinian Intifada -> First Palestinian Intifada or Palestinian Intifada (1987-1993).GreyShark (dibra) 09:25, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Aqsa Intifada is the common name in English media for the event – do you have any evidence for this assertion? As far as I can see, the evidence I gathered above demonstrates how media sources have predominantly used Second Intifada since 2005, including outlets such as the BBC which seem to have largely dropped "Al-Aqsa Intifada" in favour of "Second Intifada" as time has passed. A Google search for 'second intifada palestine' still turns up 2,550,000 results. '"second intifada" -palestine' (excluding the term Palestine) returns far fewer results (173,000), almost all of which are referring to this event (I looked through 4 pages and didn't find a single link using the term to refer to a different event). '"second intifada" sahara' has only 33,900 hits and most of these are using the name to refer to this uprising in the context of Morocco-Israel relations, rather than the Sahrawi uprising (8 out of 10 links from the first page are using the term explicitly to mean the Palestinian uprising). "Second Intifada" is used as the main English name for this uprising, often without additional clarification as the Israel-Palestine context is obvious given its widespread use. Jr8825 • Talk 11:31, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - Adding to Jr8825's tally of media sources, the New York Times prefers "Second Intifada" to "Al-Aqsa Intifada" by a margin of 299 to 11. And "Second Intifada" is more WP:CONSISTENT with our article on the First Intifada. Rublov (talk) 12:23, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per above. Also, in common parlance the word intifada is primarily associated with Palestine, so there's almost no ambiguity in Second Intifada. Brandmeister^talk 13:10, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Since I have supported the renaming of the "First" as being somewhat misleading then for consistency I must oppose the "Second". Al-Aqsa is/was (whoever changed the name neglected to change the lead text) a bold aka so I see no harm in leaving it like that but I would not object to "Second Palestinian".Selfstudier (talk) 13:16, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have any particular to "Second Palestinian Intifada" in itself, but I think it's unnecessary because of Second Intifada's broad use as demonstrated above. Its adoption as the common name (which is the entire basis for this RM) precludes confusion as to which event it refers to, and also confers the greatest recognisability. Jr8825 • Talk 16:50, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. Ample evidence has been presented that "Second Intifada" is the common name in English sources. Here is a Google search of several RSP sources: [2]. — Goszei (talk) 17:32, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Second Intifada is more common, Al-Aqsa Intifada is ussed as early phase. Also why is this moved before with no voters???? Shadow4dark (talk) 23:48, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]