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I see these errors on a lot of alphabet and alephbet pages. I is the latin/greek phonetic derivative of Y (Yud) Y & I are the latin/greek morph of the semitic Y (Yud)
V,U,W is the latin/greek phonetic derivative of V (Vav / Waw) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.36.143.156 (talk) 11:13, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
In Unix, y is a command to join the output of two streams.
Is it, really? I have never heard about that (not that I would be some kind of Unix hacker), that program is not on the List of Unix programs, nor could I find anything using Google (but trying to search "y" is quite difficult). Could you point to anything about the program? --Mormegil 21:16, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Well, in Unix, you can achieve the same thing with cat /dev/stdin file ...
, so I don't think there would be a special tool for it. So I think it probably is not a Unix command; I'm going to change the article to refer to 4DOS instead. Thanks, Mormegil 09:07, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)of atticle refer thands and achieve the same normal wind
Does anyone know how 'y' fits into the convention for names? I think it's a spanish thing. For example if a person's name is 'Manuel Luis' and his last name is 'Quezon', and his mother's maiden name is 'Molina', then the full name would be "Manuel Luis Quezon y Molina". I think. Any insight? -TheCoffee 10:58, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The German name for Y is Üpsilon, not Upsilon.
I tried to sort it out by use in similar languages, but the history at the top is all Greek-Old=English-French and it's a mess (like a child's vacation report: "First we did this, then we did that, and next we did this, and at last we did that"). So it needs work. --Sobolewski 03:35, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Y --FlareNUKE 05:54, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
That is Unicode character U+FF39: FULLWIDTH LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y. See Fullwidth form. Nohat 07:00, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
The article covers a lot of information about the use of Y in places where it forms a vowel, but I see no information that describes its use as a consonant (e.g. in "yes"). How has this emerged historically? Why is it now normally classed as a consonant despite historically being a vowel? A link to Semivowel may be necessary. Unfortunately I don't know enough about linguistics to write such a section. JulesH 10:07, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
So is y a consonant??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.78.112 (talk) 21:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone a reference for this article's hypothesis that Old English Y was a ligature of I and V independent from Greek-Latin Y? -- machᵗᵃˡᵏ 15:05, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Y in turkish is *not* always pronounced "ya" as the article states. Examples: Kaynana, yine, kaydirak. Infralite (talk) 01:06, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
It seems that English Y is often related to German/Dutch g, as in way/weg/weg, day/tag/dag, yard/garten/garden. The article doesn't say anything about this. I think it would be good if someone with more knowledge of this matter can add something about this? Math1985 (talk) 21:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
To make English spelling more like Afrikaans/Dutch/German/Scandinavian, try to replace all "Y/y" with all "IJ/ij", keeping rest as is. Note that there in Dutch only "Y/y" and "IJ/ij" alternates. Examples:
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This phrase appears in the section "Usage", subsection "English". I read it as a contradiction, like "not alive and alive" or "not connected and connected". Could somebody who understands the phrase rewrite it for clarity? 213.122.13.158 (talk) 20:49, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
The article for ⅄ redirects here, but I don't see anything about ⅄ on this article. 124.188.145.86 (talk) 00:11, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Could someone add the use in Czech and other Slavic languages written with Roman letters; currently only Polish is mentioned from that corner of the world. Colapeninsula (talk) 16:38, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
The letter Y is not "penultimate" it is simply Ultimate. Both a vowel and a consonant, it is the symbol of transformation, of positivity, and of peace. A grave error on the part of these so called "editors". Get your facts straight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yllrauei (talk • contribs) 03:51, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps this article also could deal with "consonant-Y" vs "J" ? Does for instance "j" in "jet" pronounces differently from "y" in "yet" ? And perhaps "Jerusalem" vs "Yemen". Boeing720 (talk) 02:19, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
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cf. here: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ypsilon - the Greek name is also used in Dutch. Wathiik (talk)
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Change "As a consonant, ⟨y⟩ represents [ʝ] in Spanish." to something like "As a consonant, ⟨y⟩ represents [ʝ] in most Spanish dialects; however, in many others, it represents [ʒ] or even [ʃ]." 88.6.76.171 (talk) 17:32, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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I would propose adding one sentence to the "Other uses" section: Y is used as the symbol for the chemical element yttrium.
66.90.198.127 (talk) 14:15, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
As [j] after [i] in Russian first and last names: Dmitriy, Gorkiy. Often i is omitted: Dmitry, Gorky. In this case 'y' is pronounced as [ij]. In passport offices they often write 'i' instead of 'y': Dmitrii Gorkii. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:700C:EB00:D50F:3A1C:3925:70C8 (talk) 22:54, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
Y is only used after "g," "l," "n," and "t" in Hungarian, which are considered consonants (exception for loanwords). It's also called "ipszilon," which comes from Greek "upsilon." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonman9001 (talk • contribs) 17:49, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
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Change "USually" to "Usually" (typographical error) in the table Pronunciations of Yy, Swedish row 27.99.17.205 (talk) 07:22, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
The disambiguation leads to a disambiguation. 2A02:C7F:861D:6A00:A174:247B:8029:B93A (talk) 22:28, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
The second reference is currently being used as a footnote, rather than as a reference [Quote: "Also spelled wy, plural wyes."] despite being indicated as a citation validating the usage of "wye(s)" within the wiki page. Since I'm unclear as how to handle that (namely, in regards to how to determine which of the many validating sources [eg, Merriam-Webster, Encyclopedia.com, Grammarist, etc] would be best suited for placement into the reference), I'll leave a note here in hopes of catching the eyes of someone more familiar with the matter. Editing advice is welcomed.
Wispered (talk) 18:48, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
The infobox lists both 𓅱 and 𓌉 as precursors of Y. But the article's body text and the linked article waw (letter) only have 𓌉 so the appearance of 𓅱 in the infobox is left unexplained. 92.67.227.181 (talk) 16:26, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
Please someone change this; It's just factually incorrect. Kromium3434 (talk) 18:58, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
Hm, well upon further research it seems that there are different interpretations. In the Cambridge and Collin's English dictionary, it is indeed pronounced with an "ɪ" sound, however Macmillan and Google dictionary (deriving from Oxford Languages), seems to cite the pronunciation with a schwa sound. I apologise if these might not seem like reliable sources; I am only citing online dictionaries and I don't currently have physical copies to reference. Kromium3434 (talk) 22:52, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
"Oxygen" could be a good alternative. In English it doesn't seem that there are many "y"s pronounced as "ɪ" that aren't stressed. Kromium3434 (talk) 02:05, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
It is unknown what Y originally sounded like in Latin. Only visual documentation (text, illustrations, sculptures, etc., usually kept in museums), could remain registered and intact at the time. Sound waves couldn't, since audio recorders weren't invented yet. You would require time traveling to the era of Classical Latin to listen to how native speakers pronounced certain words containing Y, and recording it. Since no physical phenomenon give us the possibility to travel back in time, it's impossible to verify the accuracy of the fact that its original sound value was /y/. Y was used for Υυ (ypsilon) when Ancient Greek words were borrowed into Latin. As the letter İ wasn't used instead, it may lead you think it represented an originally distinct phoneme. It could be /y/, but also /ɪ/, /ɨ/, /ʏ/, /ɯ/, and even /i/. It may even be possible that they just introduced Y to indicate that a word had a Greek source, and wasn't written with conventional Ιι (iota), in the same way as the romanization of Φφ (fi), “ph”, for example, which may have been used just to show a word had Ancient Greek origins. There should be written documentation in Latin stating Y sounded like a rounded İ vowel. By the way, some documentation may not be even authentic. They could have been created by somebody in modern era just to deceive historians, or paleontologists, etc. 177.44.147.36 (talk) 13:32, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
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I simply want to add a link to the history part of the article by making the text 'Proto-Sinaitic', 'Phoenician', 'Western Greek', and 'Latin' link to their respective pages:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Sinaitic_script, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_Greek_alphabets, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_alphabet. Tyjl34 (talk) 17:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC)