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Template: UEFA Cup Winners' Cup Seasons
Hello ^_^
The template has had some problem since you modified it could you fix them ? ;) (For example : UEFA Cup Winners' Cup at the bottom)
--Mrpouetpouet 22:00, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Squad Numbers
Hey. The various existing Wikipedia articles on seasons linked in the bottom template (this:)
have a list of some squad numbers in them for those seasons. Also, this might be of some use to you: http://eufo.de/football//eng/2001/middh_fc.htm. It has squad numbers going back a few years! Hope they help. Contact me again if you need any more help with anything. :) --Simmo676 20:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
UEFA Cup Final 2002
Ok just give me a little while to get my user page sorted and i will be right on it! Chaza 93 16:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
It is stable.
It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
Overall:
a Pass/Fail:
Tally P/F/N : 8/4/1
Sorry - The Reason i would not pass it (even though the tally suggests it should) for a GA is mainly the mess the table is in, sort out the table, and i will paste the review there with a pass as the overall.
OK now you can copy said checklist and pass the article Chaza 93 16:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Fair use
For more information on fair use rationales, read WP:FU and check out other articles with fair use images, that way you'll get to grips with what's required. Cheers! The Rambling Man 19:31, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Sure, I'll review it as soon as I can. Cheers. The Rambling Man 15:58, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Reviewed, it's on hold with plenty of things to do on the talk page. Cheers! The Rambling Man 10:39, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Passed now, congratulations on your hard work. The Rambling Man 13:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
I've also placed 2002 UEFA Cup Final on hold, only a minor point about the paragaph before the route to the final for each team - like the 2007 Champs League article, I think it'd be better to put all the relevant information in each team's section. The Rambling Man 13:22, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey NapHit, this seems like a great template you created, thanks for that. Unfortunately somehow it messes up the lay-out of the page with the other templates down there. Can you please look into that? Thanks, Knurftendans 20:58, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field. If you are adding a section, please do not just keep the previous section's header in the Edit summary field - please fill in your new section's name instead. Thank you. The Rambling Man 13:22, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Liverpool F.C. article - Johnny Todd: then what is significant?
Following your removal of the text I added to the Liverpool F.C. article in light of the "unprecedented" (in the words of the Liverpool Echo and the club) of the playing of the Everton theme tune Johnny Todd before tonight's game following the murder of Rhys Jones. In your edit summary you state that it was "not significant enough to be included in the article," I have started a discussion on the articles talkpage. If the club and the newspaper thinks it is "unprecedented" then I can't understand why you don't think its is not "significant" enough? Rgds, - Trident13 17:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey if you get a chance can you read through what I've written on the talk page (I wrote a separate comment and I wrote things in the todo list I created based off your list).--danielfolsom 22:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I cited everything you said.--danielfolsom 20:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Alright - if you get a chance could you review the article again - I've done just about everything you listed (with an exception of maybe one or two things - but that's all).--danielfolsom 02:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Real Madrid
Hi. I think I've pretty much dealt with your comments for the Real Madrid GAC review, but I'm unsure on how the article doesn't meet WP:HEAD? Cheers, Mattythewhite 10:07, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Real Madrid
Hi! Me and Mattythewhite have worked a lot at the article. Now i think it's at least a good article --Hadrianos1990 06:13, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
what's about wiki???
Hey! Why I can't see the flagicons and some Wikipedia pictures? It's something wrong with Wikipedia or with my computer? Plz reply me NOW!!!--Hadrianos1990 14:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
???
So it's something wrong with the site? You have the same problem? (scuz me for sending u 2 messages)--Hadrianos1990 14:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
2007 UEFA Champions League Final FAC
Hi NapHit, sorry it's taken me so long but you have a few comments waiting for you at the FAC. Cheers.. The Rambling Man 09:50, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
GA candidate
You seem to be good with the whole football GA candidate thing; would you be interested in reviewing A.S. Roma? Bye. - Soprani 18:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I've added some comments at the FLC for you. Cheers! The Rambling Man 08:18, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
List of Liverpool managers lead
see below for my attempt at copyediting, i've put it here so you can have a look before deciding whether to use any or all of it (or so you can spot any typos), hope it helps, Struway2 | Talk 08:34, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The first Liverpool managers, W. E. Barclay and John McKenna, were appointed in 1892. Barclay acted as secretary-manager, overseeing the administrative side of the club, while McKenna took charge of matters on the field.[1] They were replaced in 1896 by Tom Watson, the longest serving manager in Liverpool's history, who went on to win two Division One championships. Watson died in 1915; the club made their next permanent appointment, David Ashworth, when football resumed after the First World War.[2] Ashworth won one league title, as did his replacement Matt McQueen, but after this success Liverpool won nothing for over twenty years until becoming champions again in 1947 under the stewardship of George Kay.[3] The next two managers, Don Welsh and Phil Taylor, failed to win a trophy during their tenure.
On December 11959Bill Shankly was appointed manager. The following fifteen years produced two league titles, two FA Cups and a first European trophy in the shape of the UEFA Cup.[4] Shankly retired in 1974, to be replaced by his assistant Bob Paisley. Paisley proceeded to win six league titles and three European Cups in his nine years in charge.[5] When Paisley retired in 1983, Joe Fagan took over, winning the League, European Cup and Football League Cup in his first season. On his retirement the following year, Kenny Dalglish became the club's first player-manager.[6] Dalglish led Liverpool to a further three league titles and two FA Cups, but resigned on February 221991, claiming he could no longer cope with the pressure of managing the club.[7]
First-team coach Ronnie Moran took charge of team affairs for several weeks before Graeme Souness was named as Dalglish's successor. Under Souness, Liverpool won an FA Cup but nothing else. He made way for Roy Evans, who also won just one trophy, the League Cup, before Gérard Houllier was appointed joint manager with Evans in 1998. This arrangement lasted only 18 games before Evans resigned, leaving Houllier – Liverpool's first foreign manager – in sole charge. They won a treble under Houllier in 2001. Three years later he was sacked,[8] to be replaced by the present incumbent, Rafael Benítez. Liverpool won their fifth European Cup in Benítez's first season and lifted the FA Cup the following year.[9]
Liverpool FC task force
Hi, I noticed you have made a number of edits to Liverpool F.C. related articles. You might be interested in joining WP:LFC. John Hayestalk 14:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Cool, i'm hoping doing some work on Liverpool articles will help me forget about last night ;) John Hayestalk 15:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Me neither, do you think it needs another peer review or is it ready know for nomination? NapHit 16:18, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Liverpool managers FLC
Hey Naphit, I've made a bunch of comments at the LFC manager FLC... Hope they're of help, let me know if I can help more. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Managers section of Liverpool F.C.
Hello, could you please explain why you removed important information from the managers table in the Liverpool F.C. article? Perhaps we don't need the complete set of information about win % etc., but the footnotes contained important information which should not have been removed. I understand that you're keen to improve the article, and a lot of what you've done has been very welcome, but please think about what you're removing before you do it. Robotforaday (talk) 18:35, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
I removed that table because it was too big and most of the information was repeated in List of Liverpool F.C. managers, all you need to is retrieve the information and put a note on the manger who it applies to. Thanks NapHit (talk) 18:39, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps you could have looked at what was there before removing things thoughtlessly? Somebody has commented on the ommision on the Liverpool F.C. talk page (which you very rarely seem to use). I see you've just clicked undo, and returned to the version which misses out these important footnotes, but I'm not here to clean up after you, you know. Robotforaday (talk) 18:46, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough, I now see you're restoring the information. Sorry for being a bit short-tempered before. I just saw the undo and found it a bit annoying. I am still irritated at how people shot down the FA nomination without giving adequate reason, so the Liverpool F.C. article is a bit of a sore point at the moment. Robotforaday (talk) 18:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
No problem, good job it was brought up now as might have come up in a future FAC, yeh I was annoyeed how quickly it was rejected, hopefully next time, everything will be right, a major overhaul is needed in some sections, so a few more incidents like this might happen, regarding nominations any chance you could add your thoughts towards Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Liverpool F.C. managers Cheers NapHit (talk) 18:53, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Fair point. Thanks for your reply. Cheers, Vera, Chuck & Dave (talk) 13:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Liverpool PR -> FAC etc
Hey NapHit, just wanted to let you know that I'll do a thorough PR of Liverpool FC when I get a chance. But in the meantime, the first thing that stood out on a quick first glance was a manual of style issue, namely the use of hyphens against en-dash - all football seasons need to have the en-dash separating the years (like those in the on loan section) and the placement of some of the citations, a number of them could be moved to the end of sentences so they appear directly following punctuation (which is preferred). However, I'll get back to you with more as soon as I can. All the best! The Rambling Man (talk) 18:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
WP:LOTD
In the last month, you have created a new WP:FL. From what I can tell, this is your first one. Congratulations! You may not be aware of WP:LOTD. We are experimenting with selecting Lists of the Day so similar to the current WP:TFA and WP:POTD features that run on the main page. I invite you to participate.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 21:41, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Notable players section in Liverpool F.C.
Hello. We have recently had a discussion in Wikipedia:WikiProject Football about the prose notable players section in Liverpool F.C.. Although there was not full agreement on how the section should work, and it needs development, there was certainly no consensus that such a section should be removed. You can take a look here; for sure, the views are not unanimous on this, but you can see that it's not an open and shut case. Therefore, I have decided that the best thing to do is to restore it to the article in order that I can work on it and try and make it a better and even more rigorous section. I certainly think it helps people to know more about Liverpool F.C., which is really what our aim should be. By the way, keep up the good work; although I don't agree with you on everything, in general the work you have been doing has been for the best. Robotforaday (talk) 00:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback - I kind of knew it was a way off GA status, but it really helps to have a critical eye look it over. It may take me some time, but I'll get to pretty much all of your points, although I know I already have a couple of questions, and I'd appreciate it if you could look it over again once I've done some more work. Thanks again for your time. Watty1962 (talk) 05:26, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
OK, I don't intend to bug you every time I make a change, but I wonder if you would mind running your eye over my rewritten lead and letting me know if I'm on the right track? It does seem somewhat improved to me, although now I need to improve some of the sections it refers to! Thanks again for your time. Watty1962 (talk) 05:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Portman Road
Hey NapHit, thanks for your copyedit and support of Portman Road's attempt to make WP:FA, much appreciated. Let me know how you're getting on with your various Liverpool articles and if you need any help with them. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:30, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Anfield attendance graph
Hey NapHit. If you have a list of average attendances at Anfield then I can knock up a graph for you and export it to .png format... Just let me know. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
You're more than welcome. I'll head back to the LFC stats later on. All the best. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:10, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
WP:F1 Newsletter
Hi I am the founder of the WP:F1 newsletter! I have noticed you are a member of the WP:F1! Well, we would like to ask if you would like to get the newsletter every month. Please message your reply! LB22(talk to me!)Email me! 18:28, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
"The running gag of the Grand Prix series is that whereas Murray, safe in the commentary box, sounds like a blindfolded man riding a unicycle on the rim of the pit of doom, the men actually facing the danger are all so taciturn that you might as well try interviewing the cars themselves." - Clive James
The 2008 Formula One season is almost underway in the relaxed atmosphere of Melbourne. There we will see what rivalries are in store, with everyone hoping that the championship will be just as close as last year. The controversies of 2007 are long gone, ready to be replaced by the sweet smell of good old sportsmanship. Chubbennaitor (talk)
I am incredibly pleased that we have some backers of our new letter. So it is decided that we will go on and publish one for you every month. Don't forget to give us your ideas. I just thought that I should point out that this is our official first edition, as the last one was a pilot. However, we will keep with Issue II onwards! I would also like to thank Diniz and Chubbennaitor for helping me live out my newsletter idea.
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there is the town (Anfield, Liverpool) and the stadium (Anfield Stadium). --Mojska666 20:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey NapHit, I've started a thread off at WP:FOOTBALL - can I suggest you carry on your discussion there. All the very best. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
2007 UEFA Champions League Final
2007 UEFA Champions League Final has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.
--jnestorius(talk) 12:26, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
"And it's GO GO GO! Anything can happen in Formula One and it usually does!" – Murray Walker
Welcome to the 2008 Season Preview provided by Chubbennaitor, Diniz and LB22.
The 2008 Formula One season is underway tonight. A sense of a new term starts in Melbourne's pit lane and the practices start at 11:00pm (GMT) tonight (13th March) and will show all of the rivalries we will be seeing during the season. With three contenders for the title, Kimi won't have it easy with Lewis, Fernando and the other drivers hot in pursuit! Enjoy the special issue!LB22(talk to me!)Email me! 20
LB22 (talk·contribs): I think Hamilton or Kimi will win the title and BMW will win a race or two
Diniz (talk·contribs): As long as Wikipedia covers it encyclopedically, I don't mind!
Chubbennaitor (talk·contribs): Hamilton or a suprising Jenson Button. Kovalainen's in with a chance of the title too. After the start of the season Ferrari most likely won't win.
I've replied to your comments. Please comment if you have any further concerns or comments at the above links. D.M.N. (talk) 18:55, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Liverpool seasons
I've added my support but just one suggestion / question. Where does the league data come from? I'd be tempted to add a reference or external link. There are these possibilities [4] or [5]. I'd then check the data against those two sites. Peanut4 (talk) 15:19, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank You!
Thank You!!
Thank you for helping me improve the 1995 Japanese Grand Prix article, by provding feedback on the article through it's recent Peer Review. Your feedback has been used to improve the article's quality. As a result, I have nominated it for GA status with the hope that it will pass. Thank you!
Hi, the list's fine now, colouring both visible and tasteful :) One thing which I only just noticed is that the image of Eusebio isn't free use, and I'm pretty sure that for this sort of article, use of non-free content couldn't be justified because there's always an alternative. See WP:NONFREE. It's a pity, because it's a great picture and a totally appropriate illustration for the list. If it helps, the image on Francesco Totti's article is free-use, and as the current holder of the award it would be equally appropriate (although not IMO so good a picture). sorry to be a pain, Struway2 (talk) 19:06, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey, let me know when you take this to FLC.. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:18, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Masters playoffs
Thanks for the quick response. However, there is now another inconsistency. The two winners of the playoffs you added should have their names in green to match the others. I also found an incorrect reference year, which I fixed myself. You might want to double-check the rest of the dates. After these minor issues are taken care of, I will be ready to support. Giants2008 (talk) 14:44, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I have now struck out my comments and given the list my support. You did a fine job with it. Hopefully the other majors will get lists like this one.Thanks for the fast reply. Giants2008 (talk) 15:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
The 2008 Formula One season is underway. With the relaxing atmosphere of the first round at Melbourne (where Lewis Hamilton won with Nick Heidfeld second and a superb Nico Rosberg in third after a very eventful race with only seven drivers finishing) behind us, the focus then shifted to Malaysia. A superior Kimi Räikkönen got back on track with a great win; Robert Kubica and Heikki Kovalainen finished in distant second and third places followed by a tremendous Jarno Trulli and unlucky Lewis Hamilton in fourth and fifth places respectively. Mark Webber, Fernando Alonso, David Coulthard and Jenson Button all showed their teams' strong improvements and performances in seventh, eighth, ninth and tenth respectively. The two Grands Prix have shown all the rivalries we will be seeing during the season and how dependent the results are on the removal of traction control and engine braking. Bahrain is here and I bet everyone out there is hoping for a very good and close-finishing race there. Chubbennaitor and -- Diniz (talk) 00:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
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Comprehensive long lists discussion
Hello, I noticed that you took part in the recent FLRC for List of Arsenal F.C. players and thought you might be interested in participating in a new discussion. The FLRC was closed as no consensus and it is clear the the issue of incompleteness in longer FLs is not over, so a discussion page has been started here. Please feel free to comment. -- Scorpion0422 21:18, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
"We're watching Ralf Schumacher... son, of course of double world champion Michael Schumacher..... er, the brother of Michael Schumacher.…." Murray Walker
The first flyaway stages of the 2008 season have come to a close with Bahrain, where Felipe Massa, Rubens Barrichello, Jarno Trulli and Giancarlo Fisichella drove storming races to 1st, 11th, 6th and 12th respectively. Robert Kubica also looked impressive (especially during qualifying), and looks for BMW Sauber to be in championship contention. The unfortunate Lewis Hamilton finished in 13th, losing the championship lead to Kimi Räikkönen. Jenson Button (who retired) had a race to forget after a qualifying session to remember. Then most of the cars got updated and the teams tested their first 2009-spec cars in tests at the Circuit de Catalunya. In a probable look into the future of Formula One design, Renault used RBR's idea of a 'shark fin' on the airbox and the teams looking into the 2009 regulations, including the planned introduction of slick tyres. Honda tried a 'dumbo wing' on the car's nosecone and every other team tried to improve. Super Aguri lost their deal with the Magma Group after the planned buyout last month fell through, but did make it to the Spanish GP; SA's future is in the air again and still looking poor. The Spanish GP got underway with the hope that the adaptions will give new teams chances to win or get in the points. Fernando Alonso starred in qualifying by setting a provisional pole position time just before Kimi Räikkönen took it away by 0.091s.Toyota have made a jump from their slot at 11th-12th on the grid to clear points positions.McLaren didn't have a nice time with fifth and sixth places, in addition to David Coulthard who could only manage 17th after having a bad last lap. The Circuit de Catalunya saw Kimi Räikkönen take the glory with Felipe Massa and Lewis Hamilton finishing in second and third places respectively. Jenson Button, Fernando Alonso and Giancarlo Fisichella all drove one of their most best races, with Kazuki Nakajima also showing that he and WilliamsF1 are worth their stay in Formula One. Heikki Kovalainen had a nasty crash, causing a prolonged Safety Car period. He was rushed to hospital for checks; thankfully he was announced to have no serious injuries. Toro Rosso had a race to forget after both their cars were crashed out by other drivers. At the start of the season the FIA threatened the cancellation of the Spanish and European GPs if racism continued in Spain after after hearing of the racial abuse directed at McLaren's Lewis Hamilton while he was testing the MP4-23 at Barcelona during Winter testing. However, this was considered 'stupid' and has not happened due to the Spanish GP is completed and the European GP sold out.'Chubbennaitor, Sage J Callahan, Diniz(talk), Barkjon , Motofan
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Ayrton Senna (da Silva) is most known for his push to win, much the same as Gilles Villeneuve. Senna is a three time Formula One Champion, winning in 1988, 1990, and 1991. Many people have compared Senna to Juan Manuel Fangio, who is known as "The Master" of Formula One. Senna is a Brazilian, and raced for Toleman, Lotus, McLaren, and Williams. Statistically, he is among the greatest ever, with 41 wins and 65 pole positions. His then-record of 65 pole positions was broken by Michael Schumacher in the 2006 San Marino Grand Prix. His rivalry with Alain Prost is among the most legendary in Formula One, going as far as Senna colliding with Prost in the first turn of Suzuka in 1990, giving Senna the title. Tragically, Senna died during the 1994 San Marino Grand Prix when his Williams left the track at high speed, hitting the concrete retaining wall at around 135 mph. No driver since has been killed while driving a Formula One car. His skill in wet weather and bad conditions has made him stand out among other drivers. Where most people would choose to drive conservatively, to avoid causing a crash, Senna would still push his hardest. Following the death of Senna (and Roland Ratzenberger), many safety improvements have been made. What could possibly be better than his on-the-track skills was what he did off the track. His character and attitude has made him a legend among F1 fans.
Nominated by Sage Callahan
Lewis Hamilton lived up to McLaren's expectations with a memorable win at a rainswept Monaco Grand Prix.Carnage after the pit lane pile-up. Rosberg just becomes untangled while Hamilton and Raikkonen get out of their carsCarnage after the pit lane pile-up. Hamilton and Raikkonen's cars left stranded on the pit-lane exit.Robert Kubica secured his and BMW Sauber's first win at the Canadian Grand Prix.Rubens Barrichello had to be one of the drivers of the month after scoring consecutive points and out racing his team-mate Jenson Button.
The week before the Turkish Grand Prix there was a controversy over Super Aguri being barred from the Istanbul paddock. This was a result of Honda'sNick Fry telling Bernie Ecclestone that Super Aguri wouldn't be competing in the race after worries that Weigl's sponsorship would be insufficient. The next day Super Aguri announced that they would be departing from Formula One, as the team was past saving. McLaren went into Turkey hoping for a good result and got a mixed one with Lewis Hamilton and Heikki Kovalainen finishing second and twelfth respectively. The lights had a bit of a problem at the start but eventually the race got underway with Hamilton overtaking his team-mate. Kimi Räikkönen got overtaken by a fast-starting Alonso while Giancarlo Fisichella charged into the back of Kazuki Nakajima. Hamilton chose a three-stop strategy due to high tyre wear, but put in a fantastic overtaking manoeuvre on Felipe Massa. Late-race there was a three-way battle between Jenson Button, Nelsinho Piquet and a recovering Kovalainen, who had his left-rear tyre punctured by Räikkönen's front wing on the first lap. Button was struggling on the option tyre while Piquet was trying some moves; on his second overtaking chance he pushed Button into the pit entrance causing Button to slow. Probably thinking it was Hamilton lapping him, Button let Kovalainen pass on the corner immediately after (first corner). Massa thus won the first race of the month, with Lewis Hamilton and his Ferrari team-mate following in hot pursuit behind. Rubens Barrichello celebrated his 257th Grand Prix start by finishing 14th with a "257" paint job on the car and a special "257-themed" helmet. Barrichello's 257th GP race surpassed Riccardo Patrese's former record of 256 GPs, making him the most experienced driver in F1 history. After the Spanish Grand Prix he celebrated in a round of golf accompanied by ITV's Louise Goodman and fellow racers. A week before the Monaco Grand Prix a test was held at Paul Ricard. There were mixed results with only 11-12 cars being tested per day and the sessions being affected by changeable weather. Honda kept their promise and the wings on the nose got a makeover with other visible changes as well. Then the circus moved to Monaco, the stylish venue on the calendar mapped around the bay of Monte Carlo. McLaren's drivers had special diamond studded helmets for the occasion. On the Tuesday that week Mark Webber proved to be the man of the hour after using First Aid on his companion, AMD's Morris Denton, alongside cycling legend, Lance Armstrong. A car had hit Denton through some traffic works; he would need 90 stitches but arrived at the paddock that weekend. Fisichella didn't get his wish of a points finish on his 200th Grand Prix start after retiring with a jumping gearbox. At the start of the parade lap, Kovalainen stalled and had to start from the pit lane, but despite starting from there he grabbed the last of the points-paying positions with eighth and catching up to seventh; he finished three seconds behind Kazuki Nakajima after the gap was sixteen seconds just five laps before. The race started in the rain for the first time since 1997 and the Ferraris came under pressure from Hamilton at the start with Räikkönen falling back to third. Massa led early on, whilst Hamilton tapped the wall and sustained a puncture. However, the McLaren team was able to use the changed pit-stop strategy to their advantage due to frequent Safety Car periods and the gradual improvement in the weather that necessitated a switch to dry tyres before the end of the race. While Massa and Robert Kubica struggled on worn tyres and heavy fuel loads mid-race, Hamilton was able to build up a big enough lead to maintain first position after his second pit stop. Kubica, who jumped past Massa when the Ferrari driver had a brief excursion at Ste. Devote, finished ahead of the Brazilian in second place, but there was last-minute drama behind. Adrian Sutil was running in a strong fourth place after the final safety car period until a recovering Räikkönen, who had earlier damaged his front wing and been forced to pit, slipped up going into the Nouvelle Chicane. Kimi only put on another new front wing and rejoined in ninth, but a devastated Sutil had bad car damage and retired just before the race's 90% distance mark. This left the way clear for Webber, Sebastian Vettel (débuting the Toro Rosso STR3 chassis), Nakajima, Barrichello and Kovalainen to finish in the points. Two weeks later, the championship moved to Canada on its annual trip to North America. The track had been partially resurfaced since 2007, but these new sections of tarmac began to break up, causing a hazard throughout the race weekend. Nevertheless, Hamilton seemed unaffected as he set a pole position time 0.6 seconds faster than second-placed Kubica. In the race, the front two and third man Räikkönen held position until the first round of pit stops, which were taken under Safety Car conditions. Hamilton lost position to his two pursuers with a longer stop, but then compounded his problems by running into the back of Räikkönen as the Finn and Kubica waited for the green light to come on at the end of the pitlane. Both retired, whilst Nico Rosberg (who was also involved) lost his front wing. Both Hamilton and Rosberg have been given ten-place grid penalties for the next race of the season, in France. This incident, fuel rig problems for Massa and Kovalainen's poor pace turned the race into an all-BMW Sauber fight between Kubica and Nick Heidfeld. Choosing different strategies, the former prevailed by making an additional pitsop to the latter. The race marked Kubica's and BMW's first win in F1, and the first time since the 1999 European Grand Prix that neither Ferrari, McLaren nor Renault has appeared on the podium, as David Coulthard finished in third place to take his first points of the season. Timo Glock was also a first-time 2008 scorer as he beat the recovering Massa to the flag, and they were followed home by Jarno Trulli, Barrichello and Vettel. Massa performed the most impressive pass of the race in his progress from the back of the field following his fuel glitch by passing Jenson Button and Kovalainen simulataneously at the Old Pits Hairpin. The result has elevated Kubica into the lead of the Drivers' Championship, with Hamilton, Massa, Raikkonen and Heidfeld not far behind. Chubbennaitor, Barkjon , Diniz(talk)Sage J Callahan
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Note 1: Vettel didn't qualify after hitting the wall and damaging his STR3 in Saturday morning practice.
Note 2: Bourdais changed his engine after qualifying and got a five-place grid penalty (to the back of the grid.
Note 3: Button set one time of 1:23.565 but then drove back into the pits with a gearbox problem he started 18th on the grid in front of the two Toro Rossos.
^Note 4 : Mark Webber spun at the end of Q2 but with a secured place in Q3. He did not set a time due to the car not being suitable to drive.
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Schumacher won his ninth race of the season, which equalled Nigel Mansell's record for victories in a season that was set in 1992. As both the Williams cars retired from the race, Benetton were confirmed as Constructors' Champions as Williams could not pass Benetton's points total with only one race remaining.
Jean Alesi, driving for Ferrari, started second beside Schumacher. However, since his car had moved forward before the start, he was forced to serve a 10-second stop and go penalty. Alesi climbed up to second, before retiring on lap 25.
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Forti Corse, commonly known as Forti, was an Italianmotor racing team chiefly known for its brief, and unsuccessful, involvement in Formula One in the mid-1990s. It was established in the 1970s and competed in lower formulae for two decades, with some success. The team graduated to F1 as a constructor and entrant in 1995 and continued into 1996, before succumbing to financial problems mid-season. The team competed in a total of 27 Grands Prix, scoring no points, and is recognised as one of the last truly privateer teams to race in an era when many large car manufacturers were increasing their involvement in the sport.