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Their Tau chapter was at Minnesota. 1931-34. It died five years before the merger with Phi Mu. Jax MN (talk) 18:09, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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I noticed that you reverted a number of my edits. In the edit summary, you said that my inclusion of the Boulès - and I would imagine all of the other upperclass Black American Greek organizations - in the category for Black elite was inappropriate due to the fact that they were groups and their inclusion wasn't referenced. I must admit that I'm confused by this.
One of the cited references for the page on the Boulès - and I would imagine the ones for a number of other Black Greeks as well - is Our Kind Of People. I've recently read that book, and in it it is explicitly stated that the Boulès are a cornerstone of the African-American upperclass. What other reference is required? Besides, I wasn't even aware that categories needed to be referenced to begin with.
As to including groups, I contend that that is in order as well. The Boulès and the top college frats are essentially the Black equivalent of Skull and Bones. If you were talking about the wider American upperclass, you couldn't avoid mentioning that society... Any more than you could the Bullingdon Club in Britain. Leaving them out of a category on Black elites is a glaring omission.
Anyway, I look forward to your response. Here's hoping that this finds you well.
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Hello, Naraht...
Firstly, I need to express my appreciation for you acknowledging your level of familiarity where the Black Greeks are concerned (in truth, it probably trumps mine... All I've got is a father who's a Howard alum and who MAY have belonged to one of the frats while there).
We all want for these pages to be as truthful as possible. As a result, I will hold off on adding the reference and restoring the category links since you still have reservations. If I manage to allay them, I will then proceed.
Be well in the meantime,
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I'm about ready to replace the old mainspace article with an entirely new one, which corrects many of the omissions and failings of the previous. In the discussion for deletion there has been surprisingly little comment... Any tips? I thought I should also delete several of the duplicate sections on the Talk page, where I was (probably incorrectly) using it as a sort of sandbox. On my own sandbox I've worked up a new intro section and have cleaned up the list portion further. I found some terrific graphics to port over. But I wonder what I should do about the duplicate sections on the Talk page now... Also, Naraht, I'd ask if you would determine if some of the warnings at the top ought now be removed, as they have been addressed. As a matter of form, WP wants these to be removed by a disinterested party.
Finally, after doing all this work I don't want EoRdE6 to delete the page. He/she has not addressed the substantive issues I raised, and just continues to pick away, in what appears to be an unnecessary and Quixotic quest to rid the world of this single article. I don't see what motivates him.
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Do I have this right? I read the letters on this pin as Shin Bet Aleph... But the descriptor on the item for sale says it is a Phi Omega Pi pin (or earlier, for Achoth?). I think that is incorrect, or the pin description on the Phi Omega Pi page is incomplete. Vintage Sorority pin for sale. Is this an image we can use anywhere? Jax MN (talk) 01:03, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Looks like a good chunk of the 1923 Baird's entry should be added.Originally, the fraternity, in accordance with the Masonic traditions, was called Achoth, a Hebrew name meaning sister, and the pin bore the Hebrew characters Shin, Nun, Aleph, the initial letters of the organization's motto, but in 1920 the letters were changed to Greek, and in October of 1922, the name was changed to correspond with the letters on the pin. The chapters formerly were named in the order of the Hebrew alphabet, but with the change of name, they automatically took the Greek alphabet.
Question about some of the closing categories you've added. I just did a format review of Beta Phi Alpha, adding an infobox, correcting formatting, adding references and a badge JPG. At the bottom of the article, you previously had added the category for 1919 establishments in California and Student organizations established in 1919. The predecessor to Beta Phi Alpha had originally formed in 1909. Ought we use that year? Baird's gives them that start year, instead of the year of incorporation under the new name. Jax MN (talk) 16:05, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
This was a fun project to research: Sigma Phi Sigma. Any missing categories, or cleanup you can see? Jax MN (talk) 05:03, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Good morning. I noted that you removed the [[Category:Defunct fraternities and sororities]] category from List_of_Jewish_fraternities_and_sororities. I don't understand this change. That page lists many organizations that have either merged or gone dormant. While yes, some on that page are still thriving, others fit the category perfectly. So isn't pointing to the page with the 'defunct' category reasonable? I think it is an effective grouping for research. Jax MN (talk) 15:13, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the additional dates. A couple of items - would you check the reference link you added at Alpha Epsilon? It didn't work when I tried to pull it up. Also, I wonder if it shows an Alpha Beta chapter and a Beta Beta chapter. Both of these would seem to fit the progression, but weren't listed among active chapters.
Also, would you look at Delta Pi's discussion for deletion and vote to Keep, if you feel so inclined? Someone included it as an AfD, which I don't think is warranted. I explain on its Talk page. Jax MN (talk) 12:59, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
I noticed that Baird's 1920 has a Northwestern University chapter of Achoth / Phi Omega Pi listed as its He chapter, forming in 1913 and marked as closing in 1914. It may have later been re-established. But I do not know where this fits in regarding the Washington chapter, or in chapter order. Do you have a better sense of this?
Is the Hebrew He the same as Hay? Jax MN (talk) 16:30, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
I just ran across an AfD discussion you participated in, regarding the list of chapters of Kappa Alpha Order. I know you voted to keep it. It appears to be the only fraternity left among the NIC and NPC groups that doesn't have its own chapter list page. What is the story here? Why did they delete it? It's such a waste of time to have to rebuild it. You didn't grab a copy of the page before it was lost, did you? Jax MN (talk) 19:28, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Good afternoon - Regarding the List of fraternities and sororities in the Philippines, there's been some activity by someone attempting to add a group called Alpha Phi Chi, which had previously been rejected. It doesn't have an article, thus is assumed not NOTIBLE, but they persist. It's on the page now, and incidentally, out of alphabetical order. The editor is either anonymous or no longer has a valid account. They'd tried several variations of the name, in article link form, clearly not understanding how name links work. But that may simply mean they are a newbie editor.
It brings up a question, though. On this list, is there an overriding reason not to allow red link articles as a tracker? It appears that this group exists, but that it simply does not have a WP article. I personally don't mind listing groups with good potential for articles, as a tracker. On the list pages like this... Jax MN (talk) 17:37, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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You may be interested in this Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fraternities_and_Sororities#Capitalization_question Jax MN (talk) 15:04, 22 December 2020 (UTC)