EWG[edit]

Can you point out on the Talk page where there is a consensus that it's undue weight to mention that EWG publishes material about PFAS? I only see a section where two editors are disagreeing about it and KOA keeps reverting it. Steven Walling • talk 04:28, 24 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Consensus has not been found for inclusion. Under the WP:BRD cycle, the material should not be reinserted until consensus arises... and given the lack of third parties in the material repeatedly reinserted, we are lacking indication of its import. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 04:35, 24 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fair enough, we can discuss on Talk. I asked because the edit summaries made it sound like there was already a consensus that it's undue weight, and I don't see that anywhere. Steven Walling • talk 04:42, 24 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Technical test[edit]

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WT:AfD[edit]

I appreciate the additional note, as I had indeed misread your comment. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 18:07, 18 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

NPOV and Biography - Kalki Bhagavan[edit]

Hi Nat


i have responded with a detailed point by point response on the Biography of living persons page - can you please help me take this forward? I believe my claims have a solid chain of arguments and am requesting your help. Any edits made are shot down without a fair hearing - hence had raised these concerns.


thanks Hibiscus192255 (talk) 08:23, 4 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It really does look like the page has real problems... but I really don't have the time and energy to wrangle it at the moment. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 22:55, 6 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok. Can you tell me either how I can help or post the same on the BLP noticeboard. I think your opinion would carry weight.
One thing I could do is propose an edit which you can review, and if you like it, post it. Hibiscus192255 (talk) 19:25, 8 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Kalki Bhagawan @NatGertlerI I have made one edit there, which keeps all information but discharges it and makes it more fit to be an encyclopedia article. Please take a look. Hibiscus192255 (talk) 01:10, 10 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And before you can review them they are already undone :S.
If possible please read my version before the edits were undone, my version omits no sourced material, keeps all information but I think is way more Wikipediic / encyclopedic than what Is live right now. If you deem it an improvement, please let me know and would be great help make the necessary corrections (I have tried to minimize some of the effort involved) Hibiscus192255 (talk) 02:14, 10 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually looks like my version was accepted but the moderator wants me to establish consensus. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kalki_Bhagawan&stableid=1174685152
This might be the crispest use of your time if/as you see this has merit and would like to help in minimal time / effort. Thanks in any case for the time spent on this case. Hibiscus192255 (talk) 02:52, 10 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Requested 2 specific topics for your consideration on the talk page to help decide. Not asking one way or other, but if you could share your opinion on the page it would help move this faster sooner in either case. Thanks again. Hibiscus192255 (talk) 13:08, 11 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The sort of things you are asking would require me to spend a degree of energy reviewing the article and its sources that I do not have at the moment. This might be a good time to look to Wikipedia:Third opinion. Peace to you! -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:04, 11 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
sounds good, thanks a lot @NatGertler Hibiscus192255 (talk) 18:13, 11 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why did you retreive my edit at the Vyond article[edit]

Whats wrong with adding flashthemes? Its a legal GoAnimate revival site and itsthe part of the article, Why did You Retrevie it? Кингзјевонњикимен (talk) 06:20, 8 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Кингзјевонњикимен: Wikipedia is built around information from reliable, third-party sources, so that we have a solid sense of 1) what is true and 2) what is important. The information you added included no reference at all to tell us any of that. The closest it had to a reference was a link to the flashthemes website. Putting an external link in the body of the article is not something we generally do (see Wikipedia:External links) The closest thing I can find on the website itself regarding any link to Vyond is the disclaimer "GoAnimate, or Vyond is not responsible for and does not endorse the content hosted on this Site", a statement that does not indicate any relationship to that company. Even if a relationship was indicated on the site, we would be cautious about relying on that for truth, as anyone can say anything about themselves on their own site. And even if we took the statement as true, we would want outside indications that it was important. If there were newspaper or magazine articles about the relationship between the flashthemes site and GoAnimate, then that might indicate that the material was worth including in our article. So if you want to add material about flashthemes to the Vyond article, I suggest you look for independent and reliable sources talking about flashthemes and its relationship to Vyond. If you want a better understanding of what we think of as appropriate sources, see Wikipedia:Verifiability. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 09:49, 8 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Galerie Gmurzynska[edit]

Dear Nat May I ask why you continue to suppress fully-sourced material on the 'Galerie Gmurzynska' page, citing WP:BLPCRIME concerns? That material is comprehensively referenced with highly reputable sources such as the New York Times, New Left Review, etc. It may be uncomfortable for the owners of that institution, but those events are very much a part of its history and should not be suppressed unless Wikipedia is intended to become an advertising/commercial space? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vantongern959 (talkcontribs) 19:29, 18 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New discussion[edit]

There is a discussion here which may be of interest to you. Wes sideman (talk) 13:53, 15 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am curious why I was tapped on this one, about an article I appear never to have edited nor entered comment on the talk page. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:19, 15 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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