Yes, go for any additions and changes you want to make. The way I look at it is: nothing is really gone (as it resides in the history). There seem to be a few others with a lot of interest in this and other topics in theoretical computer science, in particular you may see edits (of yours and my stuff) by CBM (another PhD, I believe he's a recursion theorist) who has risen in the ranks of wikipedia to become a kind of super-editor. He is not shy about editing out stuff but he is always very polite and explains why he did it on the article's talk page (see the Recursion theory talk page for a recent example). wvbaileyWvbailey 16:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi. You asked about, "the first timesharing system [] developed by a joint effort between General Electric and Dartmouth. I presume that would be the Thayer School of Engineering."
I quickly re-read the Church-Turing thesis history. The amount of work you did was really awesome. One of these days I'll go through and check the quotes and citations. Because someone stole the last two volumes of Godel's complete works from the Dartmouth library I have not been able to verify some other important quotes that I'm aware of, so they are not in the article. Wow, what a nice job!
Another topic, I was reading your bio and observed that you are code-checking theorist. Here's another, related problem. Actually: pretty scary problem, there's even an international standard related to this (I can't remember the number, IEC 950?). The dangerous stuff we built (plasma cutters) had one little scary problem that we could not seem to work around -- eventually they had to start (!) Someone had to push a button. Scary thought: I saw once and only once (and so did someone else), 20 years ago, a plasma machine start up on its own. Some glitch somewhere, set it off all on its own. My first eye-witness of the aftermath of an industrial accident -- in a coal mine, a miner was sucked under a coal-digger machine when it started up on its own (some fool didn't turn off the main power -- the guy lost his legs, we were there nearby doing something else and helped in the rescue).
In the last couple years of my work I got involved in various litigations (had to testify in a Canadian lawsuit, for instance) that happened because of human errors. But the potential for machine-made errors always really bothered me. AT the very end, I was researching a scheme for a Motorola MC68HC05 micro to self-check by running, periodically, a computation (I had it runnning a tiny random number generator)... the point being that if something was wrong with the guts of the micro, it would produce bad numbers, and (somehow, there had to be a internal scheme to detect this, force a loop, or whatever, and ) an external watchdog equipped with a flip-flop would then catch the "hang" and disable the machine (we always used external watchdogs together with the internal one, at least we had that). But all this had to be done cleverly, so that the "hanging" would not be fooled .... Did you ever run into anything like that? I got to the point where I was simulating the entire micro on a spreadsheet -- I mocked up the entire micro and ran tests on it, forcing bits high or low and seeing what would happen. The only work in that direction that I know of, I saw on the web that at Stanford where E. J. McCluskey (we called him McFlip-Flop) had a team in the early 2000's working on this sort of thing. wvbaileyWvbailey 18:03, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Getting rid of unwanted watchlist item.
Getting rid of unwanted watchlist item.
Did you ever fix that spurious item on your watchlist? I suggested on the help desk that you try at the village pump, but I noticed it seems to have been archived off of there by the robots without getting any comment. If the WP:SOURCE item is still there I'd suggest asking User:Brion Vibber. He's one of the main software devs and can check the watchlist table in the database to find out why it's there (and easily remove it). It may have been only a one-time database glitch that caused it, but the fact that you cannot remove it makes it sound like possibly a reproducible bug, so you could also submit it at Bugzilla, where the devs will see it immediately. • Anakin (talk) 02:02, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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The article failed an FAC mostly because of irregularities in citation format. I found you at the ciitation cleanup project, and I am really hoping that you can help the article. Would you consider helping it, please? Aditya(talk • contribs) 02:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, when you add cleanup tags to articles, as here, please use the actual month and year, not variables, otherwise a reader won't know how ling the tag has been up. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:16, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Hello - some editors fight off the vandal hordes, as I do repairing pages with citation errors. If I didn't - there would be a large backlog in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting and in Category:Pages with missing references list as in Category:Pages with broken reference names (more than 1500 yesterday). But it is impossible to work it alone. Do you know how to do a "Blitz" (excuse the comparision) to find willing editors to work on it. It is much more easier to repair references if you do it one hour, one day or one week ago after the errors were made instead of months and years after the error was done. Very, very difficult to find these errors.
Only with WikiBlame Search it is possible to find and repair such errors.
Best wishes & thanks --Frze > talk 09:09, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
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Best wishes --Frze > talk 03:57, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
There is a suggestion on Wikipedia:Bot requests for a new REFBot working as DPL bot and BracketBot do. I beg politely for consideration. Please leave a comment if you wish. Thanks a lot in anticipation. --Frze > talk 03:57, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
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I am guessing you are complaining because I used reflinks on Phreaking. Why? Because that is the only case I have used any refbot recently. One step backward in the history of the article should be able to solve any damage I did by trusting reflinks. And I'm still the last edit on that page. Frankly I dislike the entire concept of the formatted references. Generally I never use them and have discussed why at User:Trackinfo#Link Rot. Nobody yet has given an argument why listing a source directly as I do is inferior to the complex, time consuming, reference formatting some seem to think is required. So on rare occasions, like this article, some obnoxious editor drives by and defaces the look and credibility of an article by leaving tags. User:Trackinfo#Tagging discusses my opinions on that. If you want to participate in the improvement of an article, by all means, join in. Driving by and complaining about other people's work is the height of laziness. Looking at your historical contributions to that article, you made two edits, both drive by tags. All you left are complaints. I've made 37 contributions to the article and have done a lot of research to source each contribution in order to make that a credible article on a poorly known subject. Many other editors have cumulatively contributed several hundred edits. The article doesn't need or deserve your graffiti as the first thing a reader will see above everything else. So if you have to go back to fix my solution to your complaint, I'm not particularly concerned. Have at it. I hate using reflinks and won't do it until someone like you drives by and tags an article that I have worked on. Then I get offended. If you keep spray painting your complaints over other people's work, you'll probably pass me again and I'll be just as pissed off. If you don't like the way an article looks, do some work to fix it yourself. Complaining in main space is just your superiority complex thinking your opinion is more important than any body else. Your habit of tagging is a detriment to the wikipedia project. Trackinfo (talk) 18:48, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
I believe in what is called "Link rot." Actually what I believe in is using bare URLs. The wikipedia administrators have carried Anal retentiveness beyond reason. On wikipedia, we want verifiable information, that is a given. I clearly give the source where I found the information or "source" that backs up the information I am supplementing. There is nothing improper about that. I DO NOT go through the slow, laborious and unnecessary step of creating the complicated and difficult to read wikipedia format for displaying the source. I don't think I should have to. My contributions to this global knowledge database already require far too much labor and concentration. Completing all those source details would slow my progress immensely. Completing those details would inhibit the majority of content contributing editors from depositing valuable content to wikipedia.
My point here is, writing all that source detail is totally unnecessary. The minority oligarchy that controls wikipedia procedures has decided that a bare URL reference automatically results in the link going down, or the information being obscured. Yes that is a possibility, but a small possibility. We cannot control what happens to outside sources. Our posting a URL does not cause that nor will writing all that detail solve that.
What they wish for is verification, which requires human supervision--someone actually re-reading the source and confirming that the conclusions in the wikipedia article are backed up by what an independent reliable source says. Its a two way street. When the site does go down, the information is no longer secured by all that source detail. Yes an article was once there, no we can't verify what its contents once were. There is zero protection of wikipedia for the verifiability of the information and it will get marked with a dead link tag.
Let me examine the psychology of the person who leaves these Tags. If you read through the source citing guidelines, one of the subsequent steps for sourcing, if there is a problem with the source, one of the solutions is to find other sources. Just leaving such a tag without taking any further action to search for other sources is the height of laziness. I equate it to Wikipedia:Vandalism and sometimes leave sarcastic comments to that effect. Like when a gang leaves Graffiti they unnecessarily deface the look of an article, its credibility and the overall look of credibility for wikipedia. If you leave such tags without doing the further work, you are NOT helping. All you are saying is "I was here." Kilroy. Instead, if you feel so motivated to detect a bare URL someone has left, you have several better options. Each will take some of your time and labor.
Run reflinks. Its easy to find--its in the tag you would be leaving behind. Like I said, I don't do it because I don't see a purpose to its results, but if you think the article desperately needs have the bare URLs cleaned up then DO IT YOURSELF.
If the source is no longer present, or there is no source listed, spend your time and find another source. Google, Yahoo, Bing, Dogpile and many others are great search engines. I've been amazed with the stuff I find when I search, based upon a start from a contribution into wikipedia. Someone with intelligence should be able to come up with combinations of key words to search out the content that needs to be verified. Watch out for the sources you do come up with--many times after something is reported in wikipedia, it is copied or mirrored on other sites. Look for unique phrasings of similar content, rather than an echo. Further, if the original source article is now missing, look for it in the The Internet Archive and WebCite.
And finally is to point out that a citation is needed or that a contention is dubious. Even there, after a serious search for the information, before you place the tag, make some sense of the content. Search back through the history of the article. If a piece of information has been part of the article for a long time, particularly if the article has had traffic, consider that a lot of eyes have looked past that point. Before you base any tag on your limited personal opinion, realize that the people who look at and find such articles over time (and made no change to the content) know more about the article than you do and probably did so because there is no problem with that content. Understand your own limitations before you tag outside your area of expertise.
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