The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Snowball Delete --JForget 01:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fox Valley Bible Church

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Non-notable community church. Ecoleetage (talk) 01:45, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not delete this page!!!!! Someone help me get it up and running. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.88.17 (talk) 01:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No assertation of notability. Sources aren't reliable. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Chirps•Clams•Chowder)} 01:51, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 01:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 01:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, non-notable church. Esradekan Gibb ^"Talk" 02:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Gsearch shows lots of directory listings, but no notability; gnews search shows lots of passing mentions, but doesn't show meeting WP:Notability.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 02:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
how come you have an article on Grace Community Church in california and not one on other surronding church's such as Christ Community Church or Harvest Bible Chapel. 2 leadership people from this church were from Grace Community Church. Please do not delete this page! I just need help getting it up and running. Also, I tried uploading a picture of the church's logo and it wouldn't let me. It wouldn't even let me get to the page were you upload it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.88.17 (talk) 02:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Just because we have a page on X doesn't mean we need a page on Y too — because after all, X may not be notable either. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Chirps•Clams•Chowder)} 02:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - No independent notability of the church has been presented. As such, it fails WP:NOTABILITY. Should notability ever be established, then of course the article could be recreated. John Carter (talk) 02:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no assertion of notability, let alone evidence. --Stormie (talk) 04:21, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Wikipedia is not a church directory. Grace Community Church is a notable church, this particular one (although probably quite nice to attend and full of good people) is not notable.--Paul McDonald (talk) 12:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as non-notable and unverifiable. Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 12:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note to author in response to the request, "Please do not delete this page!!!!! Someone help me get it up and running." Listen, Wikipedia is not a place for every organization to have its own page. Your church already has a webpage, but even if it didn't, Wikipedia is like an encyclopedia, in that people who want to look up information about a particular subject will look it up here. There are some enterprises that are almost automatically entitled to an article because they fall in a certain category, such as a municipality, a high school, an FCC licensed television station, regardless of how many people are associated with it. Those entities that aren't "inherently notable", however, have to prove that they are notable outside of their own publicity. If Fox Valley Bible Church were to make headlines nationwide or worldwide because of its activities, that might be notable enough for an encylopedia. Even being the largest church in St. Charles, Illinois, however, would not be notable enough for an encyclopedia. There are thousands and thousands of houses of worship, and they do good works, but only a few of them would rate a mention in, say, an Associated Press article. You may be right. Perhaps Christ Community Church doesn't rate an article either; that article might be deleted too, but that an article exists doesn't mean that all churches rate an article. Mandsford (talk) 13:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Massively fails WP:NOTABILITY. Radioinfoguy (talk) 01:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
with Regret Delete. Unfortunately the current view is that most churches are non-notable. The author has provided a full (though brief) hisotry of the church, which is better than for many church and ministry articles I have seen. See WP:CHURCH for notability guidelines. If the author can explain what this church is notable, and preferably edit the article to display this. Consider writing about all the churches in the town within the article on the town. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.