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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:10, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of cities in the European Union by Muslim population[edit]

List of cities in the European Union by Muslim population (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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This list, as a standalone article, fails WP:N guidelines, and would be better suited as a subsection of the Islam in Europe article. This type of listing doesn't make sense as a separate article. There's also no reason for this list to only be covering the European Union rather than Europe as a whole.

In addition, this article is in a terrible state despite years of existence. Most of the items on this list are uncited. Much of the items that ARE cited use information from outdated or inappropriate sources. For example, books (especially decade-old ones) generally aren't a reliable source of information for demographic data.

I propose this article be deleted and a new, higher quality list be inserted into the Islam in Europe article. 296cherry (talk) 18:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Youprayteas (talk to me? | contribs) 13:20, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy delete. This has the hint of a WP:CONTENTFORK from Islam in Europe, and the article's contents are best amalgamated into that entry or "Islam in [country]" articles. I'm still shocked by this sentence: some [figures in this article are] estimating the percentage of Muslims by using the percentage of Asians in those cities. IgnatiusofLondon (talk) 16:17, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Agreed, none of the statistics in this list are consistent in how they are produced. Some use "percentage of Arabic speakers", others use "percentage of Asians". What a disaster. 296cherry (talk) 17:32, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete
  1. The article transgress Wikipedia:No original research.
  2. The article depict a misleading picture of muslims in Europe, where muslims inhabit mostly western Europe (and are here since less than one century).
     • Limiting to European Union instead of Europe create systemic bias since a big part of muslims (and muslims in name only) of Europe inhabit countries outside of European Union such
       • Bosnia and Herzegovina
       • Albania
       • european Turkey, including several million in european part of Istanbul
       • european Russia
     • Limiting to cities create systemic bias since muslims (and muslims in name only) of western Europe mostly came from immigration during 20th century so (has stated by the article) «generally live in major urban areas», whereas the muslim population in central and eastern Europe is much older so distribution is more balanced between countryside, towns and cities, see for a good example distribution of muslims in Bulgaria but also
       • Bosnia and Herzegovina
       • Russia
  3. If this bias is intentional then the article is an endorsement of the Eurabia narrative, a far-right conspiracytheory which original variant is very similar to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion while other variants are very similar to the Great Replacement narrative, so ping @Thismess, Hairy Dude, Volunteer Marek, Doug Weller, and Horse Eye's Back:

  I found two other articles displaying the same patern in their titles and should be deleted:

  • Tamil Muslim population by cities
  • Tamil Christian population by cities

  Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 13:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I've been canvassed so maybe my vote shouldn't count, but if I'd seen this before being pinged I would have voted delete in any case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug Weller (talk • contribs) 13:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:OR and WP:NLIST and the above. Fork of the Muslims in Europe in the intro also has some merit. No objection to a redirect to Muslims in Europe as an ATD. gidonb (talk) 21:48, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above, especially WP:SYNTH and WP:LIST, but also WP:NOTWEBHOST and WP:SOAP. This is barely more than original research, synthesized in a list of random facts. Wikipedia has never been a private web host for one theory or another ideology. This potentially is a case of WP:TNT and even WP:SALT. It's a hot mess and can't be made into a normal article, absent starting from scratch with sysop supervision. Bearian (talk) 14:00, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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