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Timeline of sovereign states in Europe

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I don't know whether this is an article or a list, but nevertheless it is a poorly organised mess of synthesis and original research. The term "sovereign state" does not even have a meaning for most of the periods this timeline purports to cover. Nice colours, though. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Gate.io

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Orphan article. Over 50 references, but how many of those actually constitute significant coverage in reliable sources? I'm not sure I've seen enough here to be convinced this passes WP:GNG. Uhooep (talk) 15:32, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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European Journal for Philosophy of Religion

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This does not pass WP:GNG, the relevant notability guideline. The only source is a link to the journal's own web site, which doesn't say much and should no longer be considered reliable. The article states that it has been sold to a Chinese company, turned into a predatory journal, and will be replaced by a new legitimate journal with a similar name, but no sources are given for any of this, nor could I find any elsewhere. We cannot include this material without a source nor should we cut this back to a stub that includes only what can be sourced but fails to warn readers about the current state of the journal. Therefore, deletion seems like the appropriate outcome.

My prod saying all this was removed by User:Randykitty with a rationale implicitly referring to essay WP:NJournals: "indexed by Arts and Humanities Citation Index, Scopus, and ATLA Religion Database among others, deserves more dscussion". So here is the more discussion. My position: if it were a run-of-the-mill legitimate journal, as it seems to have been in the past, that might be a valid argument, but now that its recent legitimacy has been called into serious question, we can no longer rely on mere indexing as sourcing; we need in-depth sourcing of its fallen state, and I was unable to find such sourcing.

See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Journal of Commercial Biotechnology (2nd nomination), which appears to have some of the same cast of (possibly fictional) characters on its new editorial board and some of the same issues of being formerly legitimate but now potentially predatory. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:57, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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delete I'm not finding any sources that meet the GNG. Issues with the board are very concerning but not, per se, a reason to delete. Hobit (talk) 09:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment There is definitely something odd going on, although I cannot find sources that could be used to support an article. If you look at the archives' tables of contents for the journal, up until 4th Q 2022 the names and the themes read as decidedly European. Abruptly with the first issue of 2023 there is a change to mainly Chinese names and themes, with a few outliers that are probably middle-eastern. It is not unheard of for journals to move from one institution to another, although this one seems to be attempting to hide the fact. This is a change that would be good to note, but given that it doesn't seem to be documented (e.g. in the journal's own "about" page) I don't know how the article can be properly sourced, and if it cannot be then I !vote ~~delete~~ Weak keep but keep an eye on it as this change is very recent. Lamona (talk) 03:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete. No longer a legitimate journal and seems to have become predatory. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 09:33, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- This is tricky because it means that we lose the information about the original, "legitimate", journal. In theory, if a journal makes a major change it should change its name and get a new ISSN. If we can find any reliable source talking about this change, we can keep the article and note that the journal became something else in 2024. Eliminating the entire journal, the good with the bad, doesn't seem "encyclopedic". I'll keep looking for discussion, etc. Also, if it is dropped by the indexing services (which may take a while) then that would be something to add to the article. Lamona (talk) 15:44, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Inffinito

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Seemingly routine coverage of events by the organization, no WP:SIGCOV or WP:NORG to denote for notability. nearlyevil 665 04:41, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello,@Nearlyevil665: the page was created (by me) in a rush in order to make decisions there clearer, would you please consider withdrawing until the other Afd is closed? Thanks.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 07:51, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete Per nom, fails GNG and NORG. Source in the article and found in BEFORE are event promo, mill news, nothing that meets WP:IS WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. // Timothy :: talk 18:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sigh....OK, so much for temporary withdrawal but hey. All right, then, keep. Enough independent reliable sources covering the subject. Some are even on the page....A lot more exists, just click news for example. O Globo mentioned its 25 years of existence or this. The festival has been repeatedly described by reliable sources as the main Brazilian film event outside Brazil. Also see Veja (here) or this. ETC. Not notable, how?-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:28, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep: I also found this article in The Vancouver Sun discussing Inffinito's Brazilian Film Festival in the context of appreciation of Brazilian film. Toughpigs (talk) 17:12, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep as there are now a number of reliable sources used in the article such as multiple Brazilian newspapers and Canadian newspapers so that WP:GNG is passed and deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:16, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Khachatur-Bek of Mush

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Delete Cannot find any mention of a person with this name in any books, articles, or websites. Khachatur itself seems to be a popular name associated with Armenia, but there is no information available for the individual here. Tooncool64 (talk) 00:58, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Delete tagged unreferenced for 15 years. - Altenmann >talk 03:59, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
WP:NEXIST. Curbon7 (talk) 06:15, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete, even apart from the lack of sources, the article does not indicate notability. Zero^talk 07:32, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Djshop

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All sources are affiliated or press releases. As with Feiyr, this appears to be the work of company employees. 14.12.72.97 (talk) 11:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Roland Richard

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Can't see any credible claim to notabitilty here. TheLongTone (talk) 15:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete, without prejudice against recreation in the future if someone can write and source something better. There are potentially plausible notability claims here, but they aren't adequately supported by reliable sourcing — but notability doesn't hinge on what the article says, it hinges on how well the article can or can't reference the things it says to WP:GNG-worthy media coverage about the things it says. But given how heavily Quebec-based his career was, it's highly likely that if he has adequate reliable source coverage to pass GNG, most of it would be in French newspapers that I don't have adequate access to in order to be the fixer. But we also don't keep poorly sourced articles just because it's possible that better sourcing might exist somewhere than we've actually been able to find — we can only consider sources that are actually in evidence, so somebody who wanted to claim that he got over GNG on French-language coverage would actually have to find and show his French-language coverage, and we can't just keep the article on a presumption that he might have more in French than we've found in English. So, again, no prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can do better than this, and I'm willing to reconsider this if somebody can improve the article before this discussion even closes, but this as currently written and sourced isn't good enough. Bearcat (talk) 19:43, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep: I added four references from newspaper articles that discuss Richard's qualifications: "U of O series to end with song recital" (Ottawa Journal, April 1972), "Richard ensemble highest in integrity" (The Leader-Post, February 1978), "Club to present The Magic Flute" (The Leader-Post, January 1974), and "Spanish guitarist, baritone to wrap up festival season" (The Chilliwack Progress, April 1977). Toughpigs (talk) 01:48, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm not convinced either way, but just want to point out that the obvious WP:ATD would be a slight merge and redirect to Denise Massé. —Kusma (talk) 10:01, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bernd Hirschbichler

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BLP of an Austrian football referee, unimproved since tagging for notability three months ago. Between the unsourced sections there is a lot of routine coverage in match reports and primary sources with nothing to support notability. Mccapra (talk) 04:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 16:39, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep – The article on de.wiki is well-founded, with some sources archived in the Wayback Machine. Needs improvements, but passes WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:17, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Relisting comment: Specific assessment of the available sources would probably be helpful.
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Comment the de.wiki article isn’t well-founded at all. It has essentially the same refs as the en.wiki article - dead links to various things that don’t look like RIS, online databases of match reports that just list players and results with a name check for the referee. The only two reasonably substantive sources on de.wiki are (a) the same as source 12 on en.wiki (a short paragraph citing him) and (b) de.wiki source 3 which is a profile of him which is a blog post from the head ref welcoming him and thanking him. That is definitely not enough to build a biography article on. There is a complete lack of in-depth coverage in independent sources. Mccapra (talk) 13:55, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delugan Meissl Associated Architects

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Non WP:SIGCOV, a lot of WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH. TLA (talk) 00:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Azerbaijan[edit]

Triton-1

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The article structure does not comply with MOS, it has no source, notability is questioned, or it could be Hoax. Vitaium (talk) 11:32, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Shirzad Abdullayev

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If you look at the career sections, you can see that there are no important places in Azerbaijan, and the references do not belong to the sentences mentioned, they consist only of speeches and articles. Redivy (talk) 00:06, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Sayyad Dadashov

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Does not meet WP:GNG, and we don't appear to have an SNG for Taekwondo or general martial arts, so it's not clear whether a silver medal at the European Games should establish notability. Coverage online in English and Azerbaijani is limited to brief mentions in writeups of Azerbaijani athletes' performance, but does not have significant biographical coverage of the subject. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 16:31, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete There's a lack of significant independent coverage. Success at the junior level has never been considered WP notable for martial artists. As an adult he has competed at one European championship and two world championships, but he didn't even win a single match at any of them. Papaursa (talk) 20:52, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Azerbaijan–Tunisia relations

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Most of this article is based on a primary source, the Azerbaijan Ministry of Foreign Affairs. There are no aspects to these relations that add to notability like embassies, state visits, significant trade or migration. The 2 cultural aspects mentioned seem to be minor factoids. Fails GNG. LibStar (talk) 23:11, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Narmin Knyaz

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The person mentioned is not encyclopedic and the article is for promotional purposes only. Redivy (talk) 00:06, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete: No sources found. Brachy08 _(Talk) 00:26, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:25, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Vusal Abdullazade[edit]

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Almost all of the facts are fake: the person has never been a World champion or an Azerbaijani champion. It is possible to see this from the list of winners of the mentioned competitions. Even the years and countries where the competitions were held are incorrect, in some indicated years no competition was held at all, and in some cases, it was not held in the mentioned country. Generally, there are almost no sources to proof any of the facts in the article and topic doesn't pass GNG. The article has been deleted on Azerbaijani Wikipedia, this is the discussion. Surə ^🗯 13:23, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete There's no significant independent coverage and no evidence he won a major world championship. I checked several of the article's external links that go to "world" championships he supposedly won and could not find his name. The dates and locations of his championships don't match those of major organizations. Finally, the fact that his article was deleted on the Azerbaijani WP for lack of supporting evidence seems pretty convincing. Papaursa (talk) 04:11, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am not very familiar with Azerbaijani media, but is this considered unreliable? The news story appears to confirm that he has won the championship seven times. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 06:01, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete Apparent COI vanity page. Subject does not meet WP:NKICK or WP:NMMA criteria, as well as does not have independent significant coverage. Lethweimaster (talk) 14:47, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ulvi Mammadov[edit]

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The facts are completely unsourced, and the information about being a World Champion is also incorrect: in some years mentioned as winning years, the competition was not held at all, and in others, this person is not among the winners. The accuracy of the remaining information has also not been substantiated. Overall, the topic does not meet the GNG. The article has been deleted on Azerbaijani Wikipedia as well. Surə ^🗯 13:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Someone removed the AFD, reverted their edit. This might be like the rusty pole article. Toketaa^talk 17:16, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete No supporting evidence of world championships. Dates and locations don't match up with major karate organizations and article was deleted on Azerbaijani WP. He is not ranked in the top 350 or so karateka in his division by the World Karate Federation, which seems unusual for someone who claims to have won a bronze medal in the last world championships. Papaursa (talk) 04:21, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete As per Papaursa. Lethweimaster (talk) 00:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Battle of Lankaran

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Fails GNG, Unneeded DUP/CFORK of Lankaran operation#Overthrow of Bolshevik power.

There was certainly fighting in the area and the Russian civil war impacted all of Azerbaijan, including Lankaran, but I cannot find anything that is called the Battle of Lankaran.

Author also created Lankaran operation, I think this is an unneeded CFORK of this article, as it stands the main section of the article is a duplicate of Lankaran operation#Overthrow of Bolshevik power with the background and conclusion points covered in other areas of the article.

Article is based on a single source,

Süleymanov, Mehman (1998). Azərbacan Ordusu (1918–1920). Baku: hərbi Nəşriyyatı.

I can find no information on the publisher other than it is the ""Military Publishing House" of the Ministry of Defense and is described as "one of the ideological branches"."[1]. Based on this I think this fails WP:IS.

Lankaran operation has significant problems of its own, and is based on the single source, but it summarizes the period in Lankaran operation#Overthrow of Bolshevik power. No objection to a redirect to this target. The content is already in this target and there is nothing else for a merge. // Timothy :: talk 04:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Redirect to Lankaran Operation per nom. Nominator makes strong case. Llajwa (talk) 23:19, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Polad Fataliev

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unrelated references and statuses not found in rhesus. Redivy (talk) 22:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Belgium[edit]

Shares (company)

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Fails WP:NCORP. References are PR, routine annoucements and routine business news, funding. scope_creep^Talk 14:27, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Ghislain Cordeel

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Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. Merge into his brother Amaury's page at least, but Ghislain's career is completely irrelevant to Amaury's, so maybe fully delete Ghislain's page. - 2A01:36D:1200:4672:44C3:46D:541B:FBBF (talk) 12:30, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment: The nomination is totally flawed, seeing as the article makes no attempt to ride on the coattails of Amaury Cordeel. In fact, Amaury Cordeel is not mentioned at all. Can you please try again to explain why this should be deleted, and this time relate Ghislain Cordeel to the relevant guidelines, WP:NMOTORSPORTS and WP:GNG? Geschichte (talk) 17:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- The subject is the brother of Amaury Cordeel - notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. - 2A01:36D:1200:4672:DDA5:4C08:B8B6:3AA7 (talk) 19:01, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  WP:NOTINHERITED is not a guideline. glman (talk) 20:41, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete Funny enough it even comes from the page Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. The person in question does not appear to have any significant coverage. Is anyone seeing any sources showing significant coverage? KeepItGoingForward (talk) 02:00, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Keep - nominator has not provided any guideline or reasoning for deletion. glman (talk) 20:42, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
While I agree the nominator should provide a more clear explanation, it does not appear Ghislain Cordeel meets notability requirements. Are you seeing otherwise? KeepItGoingForward (talk) 02:02, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My only issue was that nobody has claimed that the subject is notable because of his brother - his brother was not even mentioned in the article. My agenda was to improve nomination statements in general. Geschichte (talk) 11:50, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete - Okay driver at best, that did well in some national series. Some feeder series, no so, nothing top level. No prejudice for a recreation in the future though if he has more significance in the future but I guess he'll be another run of the mill driver. SpacedFarmer (talk) 16:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Bulgaria[edit]

Nikolay Atanasov

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Nikolay Atanasov

This biography of an Olympic athlete was created under earlier sports notability guidelines, but no longer satisfies Olympic notability because the subject did not receive a medal. It does not satisfy general notability because it does not describe what third parties have written. The only reference is a database entry.

Draftify as nominator to allow six months to find significant coverage. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:04, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Comment Would it not be easier to ask the creator directly for improvement when you don't even want it deleted? Anyway, a three-time Olympian, three-time World Championship participant, Balkan champion and nine-time national champion (in a country that holds a high level in athletics) meets WP:SPORTCRIT with the most flying of flying colours, so it's just a matter of finding the good stuff. Geschichte (talk) 10:13, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Actually, the article fails WP:SPORTCRIT, prong 5: "Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources." Cbl62 (talk) 23:07, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Cbl62, thank you for your nomination. It may have failed SPORTCRIT point #5, but that is contradicted by WP:BASIC, which says that as long as sources have received significant coverage, they can be notable enough for a Wikipedia article – regardless of whether or not that coverage is explicitly linked in the article at any given moment.

The subject clearly meets WP:NATH as a multi-time national champion, which gives us a presumption of those sources existing. That presumption was correct, but nobody has found them in the past ten days because the subject had a wrong name recorded here – his Bulgarian name is not Bulgarian: Николай Атанасов, but Bulgarian: Николай Атанасов-Джоко. Searching for the former brings up no relevant results except for Olympedia (which also has the wrong name), searching for the latter brings up many: "Николай Атанасов-Джоко". I added some of the top results to the article, including significant newspaper coverage. I have fixed the name and will be voting to keep, though I will note that even if we weren't so lucky that Atanasov had a post-Internet career and his sources were easily searchable, he should have still been kept based on us knowing that the sources existed due to WP:NATH. --Habst (talk) 14:07, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep based on my reasoning above. --Habst (talk) 14:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment. I haven't evaluated the new Bulgarian sources added to the articlee. However, Habst's argument to nullify WP:SPORTCRIT, prong 5, lacks any basis. I drafted and proposed prong 5, and it was adopted with broad support on a community-wide RfA. It passed with knowledge that there is no general requirement that SIGCOOV actually be present in the article, but with the intention to create an exception in the case of sports biographies mandating the presence of at least one piece of SIGCOV and as a direct response to the flood of sports biographies (like the article under discussion) sourced only to databases. Unless SIGCOV is found and added, prong 5 is directly on point, and this article should not remain in main space (draftifiction until SIGCOV is found is another alternative). Cbl62 (talk) 14:17, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Cbl62, thank you for your comment and I do greatly respect your contributions to policy. Wikipedia policy is, however, ultimately decided and enforced by consensus and not by any one person even if that person is the drafter and proposer of a policy.

Per discussion at Wikipedia talk:Notability (sports)#What do we do when..., the "key change" in WP:NSPORTS2022 was the removal of participation-only criteria, which does not apply to the subject because he was a national champion. Furthermore, WP:BASIC can apply to a biography even if WP:SPORTCRIT would also apply, and WP:BASIC more univerally agreed-upon by community consensus than supplemental topic-specific guidelines.

An example of a similar dynamic was at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clive Sands, where it was argued that Sands should be deleted because he fails a supplemental guideline (WP:NSPORT) while passing a more general guideline (WP:GNG). This argument wasn't considered valid, because the more general guideline still applies. --Habst (talk) 15:27, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your one-man campaign for nullification of prong 5 is completely specious. The prong 5 proposal passed with the highest participation level and the largest majority of the votes. See closing comment: "This was the best-attended proposal and had the most agreement. There is a rough consensus that sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject. ... Supporters point out that it has the added benefit of reducing the number of one-sentence biographies based on database entries." So there you have it. You may not like prong 5, and you are free to start your own RfA to overturn it, but you can't just deny or nullify its clear language and force. Cbl62 (talk) 19:27, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Cbl62, thank you for your comment because I think debate makes Wikipedia better even when I do not agree. I actually do appreciate the value of prong 5 because I also don't want more one-sentence biographies only based on database entries; I just think it does not apply in this specific instance for the reasons above.

The point is moot anyways as there are several GNG sources both cited in the article and linked from the web search above, fulfilling the fifth prong. What do you think of the notability of the article on its own merits? --Habst (talk) 19:36, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I can't evaluate the depth of the Bulgarian sources you added, thus neutral. Cbl62 (talk) 21:14, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Odd Crew

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Barely referenced article and the references appear to all be wikis, facebook pages, or the band's own website. No reliable secondary sources to illustrate they meet WP:BAND. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 14:19, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete: Encyclopedia Mettalum used as sourcing is not a RS. I can't find mentions of this group online in RS (or in much of anything really. Delete for lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 15:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete: Found no evidence of notability. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark These Words as to why no AtD. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 18:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

More references added. Xray321 (talk) 10:21, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

They aren't reliable sources. I had to remove some for being WP:USERGENERATED, WP:DISCOGS and WP:IMDB. The remaining appear to be random blogs that simply repeat press releases. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 13:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment there is independent coverage available online including news and reviews with significant coverage - see for example:

This is specialist music genre, and these are specialist online magazines. Some of these sources do appear fairly reliable - but input from editors with greater knowledge of the sources could be beneficial. ResonantDis_tortion 16:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Croatia[edit]

Loren Ligorio

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Local painter with minimal coverage in reliable sources. Non-notable. Broc (talk) 11:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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There's at least been several Slobodna Dalmacija articles on him. Could pass GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 13:30, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Do you have some links? --Broc (talk) 18:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As well as a 2006 documentary about him. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:56, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete Fails WP:ARTIST. He not been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, or won significant critical attention, or been represented within the permanent collections of any notable galleries or museums. https://arhiv.slobodnadalmacija.hr/?showSubscriptionModal=1 is behind a paywall. https://www.matica.hr/vijenac/366/Prodajte%20svoje%20tijelo/ is a passing mention. Croatian Wiki article isn't cited well. Nor is Serbo-Croatian wiki. No reliable source for exact dob. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Czech Republic[edit]

Jakub Havlín

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One-time Olympics participant, Jakub Havlín lacks enough criteria that meets WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. The closest thing is this news source on Tyden that seems to be a brief significant coverage (mentioned in the first paragraph); other sources I found were mostly limited to him taking part in bobsleigh tournaments (e.g. being listed/mentioned as a participant). I can't explain much, and he also never had medal record. This article should not be confused with the gunsliger of the same name. CuteDolphin712 (talk) 11:56, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Redirect to Czech Republic at the 2018 Winter Olympics#Bobsleigh per nom. FromCzech (talk) 08:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Denmark[edit]

Countess Victoria Bernstorff-Gyldensteen

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Unimportant notablity with little to no information that violates WP:NBIO. BlakeIsHereStudios (talk) 03:07, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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delete I could find only a single source that had more to say than what it says here, and that was the capsule bio from one of the charities she sponsors. Other than that there was some fussing among royal jewel watchers about how one of her tiaras was worn by Carina Axelsson. Her husband only appears in the Danish WP, and is tagged for a lack of citations; about the only thing I found out about him was that they are using drones to count pumpkins on one of his properties in order to manage the crop better. They seem to be pretty peripheral nobility. Mangoe (talk) 03:42, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Substereo

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No indication of signifcance. Fails WP:NBAND. Refs are release news, social links and PR. scope_creep^Talk 18:26, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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'Hang on' tag added due to false claim of missing indication of significance.

Adherence to 'Criteria for musicians and ensembles' as noted on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music) as follows:

- Subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources from Reflist : [5](Newspaper), [6](blog), [7](newspaper), [12](Newspaper], [15](university article) etc..

- Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart. As indicated by ref. [12], [2], [4], and [13] (itunes rock charts Denmark).

- Has won multiple awards for music videos a referenced.

- Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network. Ref [10]

Some of the independent links (news sources etc.) are dead but cannot be expected to be active after 10 years.

Notability is referenced in accordance with guidelines Tarajameson79 (talk) 12:50, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete - This article, and the editor above, confuses the accomplishments of the band with those of one member, Chris Angel Walker. The lengthy list of awards at the bottom of the article are all for films and were received by Walker in his other career as a video director. Most of those awards are themselves non-notable and do not qualify as "significant" awards per WP:ANYBIO, even if they were relevant for the band which they're not. As for the band, I can find nothing reliable and significant about them, and the article is dependent on press releases listing their presence at various events or their own promotional statements. Finally, per WP:CHART their placement in a regional iTunes chart does not count for notability. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:21, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The festivals mentioned are directed by Chris Angel Walker but the works are listed as Substereo.

The article, as mentioned above is not reliant on press releases, but rather news articles, interviews and blogs. The fact that these are is not grounds for exclusion. Tarajameson79 (talk) 14:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Simply by looking at the names of the sources at the bottom of the article, only one (#17 from France) comes anywhere close to "news" and even that's a bit of a stretch. Also, per WP:UGC blogs are not reliable sources, and per WP:INTERVIEWS an interview should be independent and investigative. You also have a serious issue with dead links as sources, which accomplish nothing for the article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:49, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is inaccurate. Ugeavisen, Midsjællands avis, TV2 are examples of independent and legitimate news sources.

Articles from 2013 cannot be expected to be maintained as these are archived after a certain number of years. Tarajameson79 (talk) 14:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I couldn't verify a single one of these reference against WP:MUSICRS. Obviously many are social media, blog links stuff like that, which are not reliable sources. But, I couldn't find anything on social media to support the band. Usually if they are popular its imediately visible. This ref url for example, [2] has 70-odd views. Its not a valid source. These is nothing on the streaming sites. Sometimes you can look and you can guage how popular the band is and that give you approval to find more valid sources with the assumption there should be something there. But there is nothing there. It is non-notable. scope_creep^Talk 19:21, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

None of the listings on WP:MUSICRS are from Denmark. TV2 is one of the main national broadcasting stations. Verifying references against a list that only features a handful of countries is not comprehensive and extremely exclusive. Even excluding Denmark from that list is questionable. As mentioned on WP:MUSICRS itself: "This list is merely a collection of suggestions".

The references are valid, they are from actual newspapers that were published in physical form as well as in digital format. To claim that anything that is old should be deleted from wikipedia simply because those sources aren't available anymore would only allow currently popular projects to be featured as valid information.

Amount of views are also not a requirement, and that being said, the channel you mention has 143,382 views.

The claim that there is nothing on streaming sites is also inaccurate, as the references clearly show, the band has has a streaming platform presence since 2013. Not all ref sources are necessary, but all the necessary sources from newspapers and independent media are listed as required.

You cannot simply delete a project because it is not 'currently' popular. Tarajameson79 (talk) 22:07, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Correction, the Substereo channel has 143,382 views, not the subtalks channel. Although views are still irrelevant to the topic matter.

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@Tarajameson79: The normal practice on WP:AFD is to post up WP:THREE references that prove the article is notable. Three references is the standard. If you have three good secondary references, please post them up. Hearsay and viewing numbers don't count here, unless its backed backed by a valid reference. scope_creep^Talk 07:47, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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The Adventures of Bernie

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Redirect to Zig & Sharko#Spin-off. Contested BLAR, unreferenced, a BEFORE turns up nothing of use. ^Queen of _Hearts 13:46, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Jean-Hans Fourneaux

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Falls short of WP:NSKATE having only gotten medals in junior competitions below the level of the World Junior Figure Skating Championships. I was unable to find significant coverage in secondary sources online having searched for both members of this duo, despite coming across many photos of the same. With the exact same sources used in each article, we definitely do not need two separate articles for each of the skaters, but ultimately I'm unable to find sufficient coverage to establish that they even meet WP:GNG in aggregate. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 15:21, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Shares (company)

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Fails WP:NCORP. References are PR, routine annoucements and routine business news, funding. scope_creep^Talk 14:27, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Not notable enough for inclusion as a standalone article. The airport definitely existed, but the airport does not pass the notability bar. Thank you. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 15:47, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep. I added some references from the corresponding article in the French Wikipedia. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 17:49, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Merge to Air Tetiaroa or Tetiꞌaroa. None of the sources constitute significant coverage required to meet GNG. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Jeff Spock

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Self-promotional page originally set up by the subject themselves. Little to no secondary sources to make this person suitable for a page to be found online. Griseo veritas (talk) 11:00, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Stephan Pouyat

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Fails WP:BIO. Coverage is self-generated profiles and passing mentions. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep^Talk 18:14, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Le Mans race results

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Do we need another list of winners when many of these articles about races taking place there have their own list or is part of it, thus making this completely unnecessary. Many others are not necessary to the most ardent fans such as feeder series. Unnecessary WP:FANCRUFT list that is only good for the most obsessive motorsport fans, also WP:LC and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Also, not notable enough to pass WP:LISTN. SpacedFarmer (talk) 17:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hugo Pingray

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Non-notable "semi-professional" card player, promotional, created by blocked account: fails WP:GNG Cabrils (talk) 03:56, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:GNG and can be argued this is a WP:BIO1E. Nothing notable here. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:56, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete per UtherSRG. AlexandraAVX (talk) 10:54, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pyreneism

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Not a thing, just [Alpinism] by a different name. Article is also mostly composed of random quotes - not really encyclopedic. Article even states "The specialists may talk of pyreneism, himalaism, andenism, it refers to the same action of climbing mountains by their faces, by their ridges or by combining both." LegalSmeagolian (talk) 20:33, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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keep. The subject is valid: Mountaineering in Pyrenees. The current title looks unusual, but reasonable. - Altenmann >talk 21:32, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Draftify - This article seems to be google-translated from the Spanish or Catalan original. The syntax is garbled and almost incomprehensible. But it does seem to be an article about the term and concept "Pyreneism" as used in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, rather than about mountaineering the Pyrenees generally - i.e. it's about the self-conscious culture and literary tradition around the practice rather than the practice generally. The sources seem good if slightly tending to WP:OR. BUT we can't have an article that is completely incoherent to read. The prose and syntax are a disaster. This really needs to be rewritten sentence by sentence in draft space before returning to the main space. Llajwa (talk) 20:18, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I would also support this. LegalSmeagolian (talk) 16:11, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Endorse the above Draftify Its not ready for main space, AfC can judge the other issues once the article is actually ready for publishing. // Timothy :: talk 18:16, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Draft: as suggested seems fine. Seems to be a claim to notability, based on the 100 yr history of the thing described here. Oaktree b (talk) 14:24, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

French ship Bordelais

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Include the two ships to Bordelais. BinaryBrainBug (talk) 18:18, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep Standard set index page per WP:SHIPMOS. Even if included in Bordelais a SI page would still be needed Lyndaship (talk) 18:42, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep As a set index page. WP:SHIPMOS: If there has been more than one ship with the same name, create a ship index page for the generic ship name. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:44, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
A merge with Bordelais doesn't hurt. In fact, for readers who search for Bordelais, it would save them a click. Geschichte (talk) 09:10, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep per Lyndaship and Hawkeye. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 15:10, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Festival du Film Merveilleux

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:N. It has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve this. Boleyn (talk) 20:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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I would say Keep. I removed a few things. Cleanup is still necessary. And update. Added a few sources that seem to prove it is notable. The full name is "Festival du Film Merveilleux et Imaginaire". -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 00:12, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete Fails GNG. A gnews search comes up mainly with www.sortiraparis.com which is an event listing website. LibStar (talk) 04:57, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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weak Keep poorly sourced but IMO notable. Llajwa (talk) 16:56, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

how is it notable? In what way does it meet notability criteria? LibStar (talk) 22:29, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Substereo

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No indication of signifcance. Fails WP:NBAND. Refs are release news, social links and PR. scope_creep^Talk 18:26, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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'Hang on' tag added due to false claim of missing indication of significance.

Adherence to 'Criteria for musicians and ensembles' as noted on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music) as follows:

- Subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources from Reflist : [5](Newspaper), [6](blog), [7](newspaper), [12](Newspaper], [15](university article) etc..

- Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart. As indicated by ref. [12], [2], [4], and [13] (itunes rock charts Denmark).

- Has won multiple awards for music videos a referenced.

- Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network. Ref [10]

Some of the independent links (news sources etc.) are dead but cannot be expected to be active after 10 years.

Notability is referenced in accordance with guidelines Tarajameson79 (talk) 12:50, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete - This article, and the editor above, confuses the accomplishments of the band with those of one member, Chris Angel Walker. The lengthy list of awards at the bottom of the article are all for films and were received by Walker in his other career as a video director. Most of those awards are themselves non-notable and do not qualify as "significant" awards per WP:ANYBIO, even if they were relevant for the band which they're not. As for the band, I can find nothing reliable and significant about them, and the article is dependent on press releases listing their presence at various events or their own promotional statements. Finally, per WP:CHART their placement in a regional iTunes chart does not count for notability. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:21, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The festivals mentioned are directed by Chris Angel Walker but the works are listed as Substereo.

The article, as mentioned above is not reliant on press releases, but rather news articles, interviews and blogs. The fact that these are is not grounds for exclusion. Tarajameson79 (talk) 14:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is inaccurate. Ugeavisen, Midsjællands avis, TV2 are examples of independent and legitimate news sources.

Articles from 2013 cannot be expected to be maintained as these are archived after a certain number of years. Tarajameson79 (talk) 14:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I couldn't verify a single one of these reference against WP:MUSICRS. Obviously many are social media, blog links stuff like that, which are not reliable sources. But, I couldn't find anything on social media to support the band. Usually if they are popular its imediately visible. This ref url for example, [3] has 70-odd views. Its not a valid source. These is nothing on the streaming sites. Sometimes you can look and you can guage how popular the band is and that give you approval to find more valid sources with the assumption there should be something there. But there is nothing there. It is non-notable. scope_creep^Talk 19:21, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Amount of views are also not a requirement, and that being said, the channel you mention has 143,382 views.

You cannot simply delete a project because it is not 'currently' popular. Tarajameson79 (talk) 22:07, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Correction, the Substereo channel has 143,382 views, not the subtalks channel. Although views are still irrelevant to the topic matter.

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Georgia[edit]

Georgian campaign against the Eldiguzids

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This article was created in October 2023 by CU blocked sockpuppet Nugoooo.[4] The original creation of the article dates back to 2018 by a blocked user named Georgiano, but it was deleted in 2020 due to various violations of core policies, including instances of copyright infringement, among other issues[5]-[6]

Following a hiatus of 3 years, the article now reappears on Wikipedia, under the watchful eye of another batch of WP:NOTHERE accounts and IPs. Subsequent edits to the article of significance are obvious IP socks linked to the original sockmaster, as well as new sockpuppets (such as user:Caucasian127). Strangely, the prevalence of sock and meatpuppetry did not suffice as a reason to accept the CSD 5 request.[7]

Similar to its previous iteration, the article is marred by violations of Wikipedia's policies on original research (WP:OR), as well as those on verifiability (WP:VER) and reliable sourcing (WP:RS). There is also a likelihood of copyright violations. - LouisAragon (talk) 16:08, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Djshop

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All sources are affiliated or press releases. As with Feiyr, this appears to be the work of company employees. 14.12.72.97 (talk) 11:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Kreuger family

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Unreferenced genealogy - Altenmann >talk 03:48, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Swindled

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The show does not pass WP:GNG or WP:NPODCAST. While doing a BEFORE, I'm mostly seeing listicles with short descriptions of the show. I'm fine with using listicles for establishing notability if they actually contain significant coverage, whereas most of these don't even contain 100 words about the show and basically just copied from the show's description on a podcasting platform. The Discover Pods awards aren't bad, but it's not a notable award. Being in the top ten of a category on Apple podcast charts also isn't bad, but the show barely made the list. TipsyElephant (talk) 03:00, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete: PR items used for sourcing, and appearing in a "10 best" list are about all we have. I can only find mentions of this in lists of true crime podcasts, which don't help notability. The wiki article now is more of an episode list than much of anything about the podcast itself. Oaktree b (talk) 04:59, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Akuma Divine Saningong

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Pure self-promotional article and probably paid editing (see the sockpuppet primary author). All primary sources, save 2, which are the barest of mentions of the subject. Some of the sources are academic papers for which the subject is one of the academics credited. Subject is not discussed in-depth in any reliable secondary sources. Fred Zepelin (talk) 21:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete. No pass of WP:Prof. Can't find enough for GNG. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:31, 31 January 2024 (UTC).Reply[reply]
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Christian Brückner

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There are no sources per WP:GNG, does it fail WP:NACTOR. Ferret-o-meter (talk) 05:36, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep – The subject is a very notable German voice actor who also has a minor career in film and television. He is the subject of a 45-minute documentary and has won numerous awards. Lack of sources does not automatically mean lack of notability. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:00, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There are two sources cited, it needs more English reliable sources. Ferret-o-meter (talk) 07:37, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It does need sources but they exist and they don’t have to be in English. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:35, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am not exactly sure I understand the nomination: is it a question? There's a template on the page inviting to expand with the German article. Did the nominator have a look? Brückner has received numerous awards as voice actor (for audiobooks) and part of it is sourced with independent coverage. Keep (and expand). I might do it but not just now. (Only added 2 sources, taken at random, to remove the unsourced BLP tag) The article does not need to be as long and detailed as the German one but can be fairly developed with the numerous existing sources.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 06:21, 31 January 2024 (UTC) (Note: A lot of coverage you will find first is about a German or Austrian criminal with the same name in the context of the Maddie McCann case; not connected, of course. You might want to perform a search with "-Maddie -McCann")Reply[reply]
Only the suspect's article it related to WP:BLP1E for Madeleine McCann. Ferret-o-meter (talk) 07:35, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not related. Please read the 2 existing !votes again carefully, thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:34, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment. Flawed nomination. The user asks for English sources, yet all three of their sentences consist of English with incorrect grammar, to the point that their follow-up questions are difficult to comprehend. This comment is not in mean spirit, only highlighting that it's in our best interest to understand eachother. Geschichte (talk) 07:56, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Prince Inigo of Urach

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Doesn't seem to be notable, the only claim to fame is being a grandchild of a person, who was considered to the position of Lithuanian king, but never actually became one. Marcelus (talk) 22:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Madeleine Wade

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Non-notable actress with no significant coverage in reliable sources. The only significant coverage cited in the article are interviews, which lack independence; the rest of the articles cited are trivial mentions. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:14, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment only: She's presented as a "veteran character actress" (brief mention, here). The current version of the WP article notes that "One of her most recognizable roles comes from starring in the music video for "Sing" by Ed Sheeran featuring Pharrell Williams, in which her character had love scenes with a puppet version of Sheeran." but is that enough?-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 00:50, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete - Don't believe she satisfies WP:GNG MaskedSinger (talk) 08:04, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Berlin Sculpture-Network

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Grant-funded projects like this come and go and rarely turn out to have any enduring notability. This article has been tagged as unreferenced for 10 years and, while dewiki lists some publications and press releases from the project itself, I haven't been able to find the independent coverage needed to meet our threshold for inclusion here on enwiki. – Joe (talk) 06:14, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Weak keep or alternatively selective Merge to Berlin State Museums. At least the article is much shorter than the Berliner Skulpturennetzwerk article on German Wikipedia, so it isn't a WP:BLOWITUP candidate! I can see suggestions that this is an important project, for example journal articles [8] [9], though the majority of online info appears to be on museum or university websites. Sionk (talk) 14:26, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hilary Childs-Adams

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Article solely based on primary sources. A google news search yields a small number of hits, and it's mainly her making comments and not indepth coverage of her. Fails WP:BIO. Ambassadors are not inherently notable. LibStar (talk) 03:11, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Jan Jenisch

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Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. Refs are profiles and passing mentions. scope_creep^Talk 14:01, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep - Thank you for the links. I'll review and see if there's a path forward with resolving this issue. I initially created this page because he's been heavily featured in the press, but I understand your perspective.--Mr.EugeneKrab$ (talk) 16:43, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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There is a no WP:SECONDARY newspapers sources here. It is all either him or the companies he's working for. You will need evidence he is notable per WP:THREE. The article is just WP:PROMO with no illusion to being notable. scope_creep^Talk 17:10, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for the guidance. Working to resolve issue!--Mr.EugeneKrab$ (talk) 16:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of races at the Nürburgring

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Do we need another list of winners when each articles about races taking place there have their own list, thus making this completely unnecessary. Unnecessary WP:FANCRUFT list that is only good for the most obsessive motorsport fans, also WP:LC and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. SpacedFarmer (talk) 16:33, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete Yes, looking like a fancruft. Azuredivay (talk) 05:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete Wikipedia completely. Make them happy. Matthead (talk) 17:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ronja Maltzahn

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Does not meet WP:GNG. Rajeev Gaur123 (talk) 11:15, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hey Rajeev! I find the article to be necessary, since it clarifies the life of Ronja, that has been in the talks of youtubers, tv and printed media because of the issue mentioned in the article, about Cultural Appropriation. When people search for the character mentioned, Wikipedia is a source of clarity. \**|Fedesav|**/ Insomnio Rock! (talk) 11:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep: Source 7 Der Spiegel is fine, so is this [10] and another half dozen hits in DE media in Gnews. Oaktree b (talk) 14:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep: as per Oaktree b, secondly i think there are already very few women's articles on Wikipedia, so it should not be deleted, we have to take women forward. in October 2014, only 15.53% of English Wikipedia's biographies were about women. Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 15:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Markus Nikolai

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO; no RSs and would seem unlikely any exist; promotional; created by blocked user. Cabrils (talk) 23:47, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete: Per nomination. Worth noting, however, that the article content as we see it was not created by a blocked user, but much more recently by an IP editor. (The page was originally a redirect.) Bsoyka (t • c • g) 01:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Weak delete, he's got a lot of mentions in RS, but none of it detailed. The fact that he's in two definitely-notable bands makes me think there should be a profile of him somewhere in an offline source, but pending evidence of that I can't vote keep. Mach61 (talk) 06:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Notability of this individual has nothing to do with that of their band(s). dxneo (talk) 13:10, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Redirect or smerge (selectively merge) to Bigod 20. I would not oppose a merger of all three articles mentioned. Maybe the closer can be bold. The collective group is notable, but notability is not inherited. Bearian (talk) 15:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete: Discogs, youtube, instagram, then down the non-notability rabbit hole. Sourcing isn't much to begin with and I can't find any we'd be able to use. Oaktree b (talk) 22:12, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Frank Ronzio

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The article subject still fails WP:NACTOR and the WP:GNG same as last time this was at AfD. A WP:BEFORE yielded no significant coverage, just brief mentions in books. Although the American Air Museum source appears to be new, it is apparently a user-generated source written by an author with no expertise. The actor has been deceased for over thirty years and more coverage is unlikely to come up. The Night Watch (talk) 15:08, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Kim Hong-kyun

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Fails WP:BIO. None of the sources are of any use in establishing notability, nor is his position. (Kim Hong-kyun (rower) should be moved here afterward.) Clarityfiend (talk) 20:21, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment. The article you mentioned about the rower is exactly the type of article that ends up not being kept in discussions these days. Geschichte (talk) 21:07, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep Plenty of significant coverage in reliable secondary sources (A profile of him in Yonhap, coverage of his visit to Germany in Yonhap, coverage of his appointment to the Korean Peninsula Peace position in Yonhap), something to be expected for someone who was previously also a high level diplomat (South Korean ambassador to Germany since October 2022). I will say the article is outdated since it hasn't been updated since 2017. ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 14:01, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Substereo

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No indication of signifcance. Fails WP:NBAND. Refs are release news, social links and PR. scope_creep^Talk 18:26, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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'Hang on' tag added due to false claim of missing indication of significance.

Adherence to 'Criteria for musicians and ensembles' as noted on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music) as follows:

- Subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources from Reflist : [5](Newspaper), [6](blog), [7](newspaper), [12](Newspaper], [15](university article) etc..

- Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart. As indicated by ref. [12], [2], [4], and [13] (itunes rock charts Denmark).

- Has won multiple awards for music videos a referenced.

- Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network. Ref [10]

Some of the independent links (news sources etc.) are dead but cannot be expected to be active after 10 years.

Notability is referenced in accordance with guidelines Tarajameson79 (talk) 12:50, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete - This article, and the editor above, confuses the accomplishments of the band with those of one member, Chris Angel Walker. The lengthy list of awards at the bottom of the article are all for films and were received by Walker in his other career as a video director. Most of those awards are themselves non-notable and do not qualify as "significant" awards per WP:ANYBIO, even if they were relevant for the band which they're not. As for the band, I can find nothing reliable and significant about them, and the article is dependent on press releases listing their presence at various events or their own promotional statements. Finally, per WP:CHART their placement in a regional iTunes chart does not count for notability. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:21, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The festivals mentioned are directed by Chris Angel Walker but the works are listed as Substereo.

The article, as mentioned above is not reliant on press releases, but rather news articles, interviews and blogs. The fact that these are is not grounds for exclusion. Tarajameson79 (talk) 14:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is inaccurate. Ugeavisen, Midsjællands avis, TV2 are examples of independent and legitimate news sources.

Articles from 2013 cannot be expected to be maintained as these are archived after a certain number of years. Tarajameson79 (talk) 14:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I couldn't verify a single one of these reference against WP:MUSICRS. Obviously many are social media, blog links stuff like that, which are not reliable sources. But, I couldn't find anything on social media to support the band. Usually if they are popular its imediately visible. This ref url for example, [11] has 70-odd views. Its not a valid source. These is nothing on the streaming sites. Sometimes you can look and you can guage how popular the band is and that give you approval to find more valid sources with the assumption there should be something there. But there is nothing there. It is non-notable. scope_creep^Talk 19:21, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Amount of views are also not a requirement, and that being said, the channel you mention has 143,382 views.

You cannot simply delete a project because it is not 'currently' popular. Tarajameson79 (talk) 22:07, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Correction, the Substereo channel has 143,382 views, not the subtalks channel. Although views are still irrelevant to the topic matter.

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Vinh Khuat

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Sources don't show how this person is notable. ¹⁴¹ Pr {contribs} 13:28, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Weak keep. The sources in the article might not show notability, but a Google search brings up a ton of results in Vietnamese media. Unfortunately, I do not speak Vietnamese so I cannot assess the reliability of those sources, but it's sufficient to presume multiple reliable secondary exist, thus fulfilling the notability criteria. [12] [13] [14] [15] @Praseodymium-141: have you checked the sources in the Vietnamese page? --Broc (talk) 13:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Greece[edit]

Renata Wielgosz

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Last AfD was about 10 months ago. This person lacks significant coverage. She does not even get 1 gnews hit, which is unusual for an ambassador from a major country. None of the keep !votes last time provided any examples of sources. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 23:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Antisyntagmatarchis

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Seems to be just a translation Chidgk1 (talk) 12:55, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment. In Greek letters, the name is Αντισυνταγματάρχης. The Greek article el:Αντισυνταγματάρχης doesn't have any references either, but if you google Αντισυνταγματάρχης through Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL, you might be able to find some references. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 14:03, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Weak keep - poorly sourced but we normally have article about military ranks. Llajwa (talk) 21:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep. My preference would be to merge, but there are enough articles on military ranks around the world to justify this one. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hungary[edit]

Theo Lengyel

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Lengyel does not meet the specific criteria for notability of musicians: he was a member of Mr. Bungle, but criterion 6 requires having been a "reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles". I have been unable to find much coverage of his time with the band, and it's not fully independent (such as the semi-official history of the band); such sources as there are disagree on what year he left. The article was started in 2005, and in December 2023 I found it containing uncited specifics and the only reference on his career being a dead reference for a disparaging quote. I searched for sources and rewrote it like this. (Morbidthoughts has since removed the sources on his career as insufficiently reliable for a BLP, after I noted the article at the BLP noticeboard.) The impetus for my edit was that he was in the news as a suspect in the disappearance of his girlfriend. Since then her body has been found, and he has been arrested and is being held on murder charges. I had meanwhile redirected the article to Mr. Bungle, but the news coverage led .usarnamechoice to revert that redirection on January 4. There have been several news articles. In addition to the SFGate article we are currently citing for his being a person of interest, there are The Santa Cruz Sentinel and NBC News. In addition to SFGate and Pitchfork that we currently cite for his arrest and the murder charge, there are The San Francisco Chronicle, the Associated Press, the Los Angeles Times, and The New York Times. The latest news I can find is on a second deferment of his arraignment, Santa CruzSentinel, January 16. The vast majority of this coverage is based on police announcements; for example, the statement that he has also gone by Mylo Stone, which I have been unable to corroborate—there is a younger musician called Mylo Stone who is a UK rapper, so I have recently reverted addition of that reported alias to the article. The LA Times article describes Lengyel's vehicle and gives its license plate. But that and the Mr. Bungle sources are pretty much it for biographical details; we know more about his girlfriend, thanks to coverage like that Santa Cruz Sentinel article. So the article is in effect a WP:BLP1E and bad from a WP:BLPCRIME point of view. The two claims of notability are both inadequate and don't add up to enough for an article. It would be pure WP:CRYSTAL to hold that the legal case will eventually provide sufficient coverage to overcome the "one event" problem, or lead a music journalist to write about his music career. So although this discussion will take up the time of members of the community, I believe that this biography of a living person needs to be deleted. Yngvadottir (talk) 01:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete, per Yngvadottir's excellent analysis above. As I commented when this was raised at WP:BLPN [16], being a member of a notable band doesn't inherently create independent notability, and nor does being arrested as a murder suspect. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:55, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:30, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pater Sparrow[edit]

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. It has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve this. Boleyn (talk) 18:55, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Károly Gesztesi

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Non-notable voice actor, only known for working on dubs. 2A01:36D:1200:4638:F566:B628:7B58:B0E0 (talk) 16:27, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment This discussion page was created in draftspace–I’ve moved it here on the IP’s behalf. I am neutral on the nomination itself. --Finngall ^talk 20:58, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Keep. He's not only a voice actor but an actor. only known for working on dubs is simply. not. true. Various significant roles in notable films make him fairly meet WP:NACTOR... In-depth direct coverage in independent media (in Magyar) exists. Awards.....Willing to improve the page, fwiw.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:37, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete. I wasn't going to vote on this one, but his non-dubbing work is not notable, so I think the prev. poster is making a very weak argument. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:28, 8 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
his non-dubbing work is not notable, how? Have you had a look at his filmography as actor by any chance? Multiple lead roles in notable films that received coverage in independent sources...a very weak argument....how? Significant roles in notable films (and a popular actor, I link that short source because it is in English, fwiw).... just have a look at the page and other existing sources, thank you. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 15:37, 8 January 2024 (UTC) (not to mention that coverage about him makes him meet the general requirements for notability, by the way)Reply[reply]

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Delete: Fails GNG and NBIO. Sources in the article and found in BEFORE are database listings/name mentions, nothing that meet WP:IS WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. About a third of the refs are OBITs/Membrials, the rest are name mentions and listings, except for [17], [18] which are about a lawsuit over post-death use his voice, which do not address the subject directly and indepth. // Timothy :: talk 22:40, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Wikipedia:Obituaries as sources. (aka WP:OBIT) states: "Obituaries published by high-quality reliable sources are often treated as valuable sources for articles on deceased individuals, since they provide a broad overview of the subject's life." Not to mention the fact that when so many obituaries are published in the media it certainly indicates something about notability. And most of them are (obviously) addressing the (deceased) subject directly (and in depth).-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:03, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep He has earned several awards and has appeared in several media. GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 20:07, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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You could have just considered that Gesztesi fairly meets WP:NACTOR, considering his lead roles in some of the biggest successes in Hungarian cinema of the 2000s, but fair enough. Obituaries are from sources that include Népszava, Origo, IGN, Femina and Rádió 1 (hu). All of them are established media that can be considered reliable in the field of entertainment. Blikk is on the tabloid side but there too, see WP:RSP about tabloids, if the tabloid is a well-established one, news about what is obviously not a rumour (the confirmed death of a celebrity) can be used but should be used with care. Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

One can also note that the Hungarian IP used by the nominator is currently blocked and has been blocked 4 times since 2020 for reasons that include disruptive editing, BLP violations, block evasion and abuse of multiple accounts....I have seen better credentials.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:00, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep: the bar set by WP:NACTOR is fairly low, but that is the applicable guideline here. And this actor more than meets NACTOR. Owen× ☎ 19:22, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Iceland[edit]

My Summer As A Salvation Soldier

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My familiarity with Icelandic music isn't all it should be, but this guy doesn't seem to satisfy WP:MUSICBIO. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:16, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep Subject passes WP:GNG with significant coverage in the Icelandic media such as these [19][20][21][22]. Alvaldi (talk) 09:13, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Ireland[edit]

Patrick Greaney

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Unable to find any citations, or even mentions of this 18th century Gaelic Irish poet/musician. The article has been tagged since March 2022 for notability and unreferenced. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 02:33, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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del neglected, unreferenced. - Altenmann >talk 03:53, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete. Non-notable. Scolaire (talk)

Dublin Duck Dispensary

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Can't find any significant independent reliable sources about this project. pinktoebeans ^(talk) 16:36, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete. Nothing to indicate that WP:SIGCOV or WP:BAND are met. In terms of SIGCOV, a search in "main stream" national news outlets in Ireland (the Irish Times, Irish Independent, Irish Examiner, etc) returns nothing at all. Zero news results. Not even trivial passing mentions. Entertainment and music outlets (like Hotpress Magazine and RTÉ Entertainment) return the same trivial passing "gig announcement notices" we see in the article itself. Like this and this. The definition of trivial/passing mentions. That we are reliant on scant coverage (in blogs and myspace pages), to establish even the basic facts, is somewhat telling. The ONLY coverage in the article, of which the subject is the main topic, is this write up in Analogue Magazine. But one piece of coverage (in a short-lived freesheet magazine left in colleges, coffee shops and entertainment venues) does not amount to SIGCOV. In terms of NBAND, the subject doesn't appear to have released albums on a major label, charted anything/anywhere or received notable awards. Was likely WP:TOOSOON when created (and, in honesty, kinda surprised it survived this long). NOTE: If the article on the musician's other performing name (the subject of a parallel discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Monster Club) is retained, there might just about be a case for this title being a redirect. As an WP:ATD. But barely.... Guliolopez (talk) 14:39, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No Monster Club

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Can't find enough significant sources about this project for it to meet WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. Most sources are either too short or mainly focus on another project by Bobby Aherne. pinktoebeans ^(talk) 16:33, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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John Skelton (artist)

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I couldn't find sources to show he meets WP:NARTIST or WP:GNG. No obvious good WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 09:39, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment - Noticed the article seems to be a copyvio of this website page:[23] or that is a mirror of his WP article. Netherzone (talk) 01:22, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete - WP:BEFORE doesn't turn up any RS to add to this article's claims. All seem to be gallery or auction house promotional material.--WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tommy Storm and the Galactic Knights

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Doesn't meet WP:NBOOK. I've searched for reviews on Kirkus, Publishers Weekly, Booklist, and School Library Journal, as well as general searches on Google and Google Scholar, and haven't found any sources to meet notability guidelines. I would suggest redirecting to the author's page (A.J. Healy), at least for now. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:01, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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~~Redirect~~ to author as suggested. The only thing I found in Wikipedia Library was a routine book announcement in Publishers' Weekly: "Tommy Storm debuts with Tommy Storm and Tommy Storm and the Galactic Knights by A.J. Healy ($8.99 each, 9-12)." Definitely no NBOOK in sight. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 06:22, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Change to Keep per Cunard's excellent finds below, which give us the 2+ reviews we need for NBOOK1. Thanks, too, for adding material from these to the article! (Also, on reflection, a better alternative to deletion would have been a merge to Tommy Storm, but that's beside the point now.) ~ L 🌸 (talk) 23:36, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria says:
A book is presumed notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources, at least one of the following criteria:
1. The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.
Sources
1. "A right royal a scandal". Sunday Mercury. 2009-10-18. Archived from the original on 2024-01-27. Retrieved 2024-01-27.
  The review notes: "The second book in the series from Irish writer AJ Healy starts just after Tommy and his four knight friends have been captured by gangster Nack Jikilson - and when they escape he follows them across the galaxy. ... Tommy Storm is not a particularly likeable character, and although this book is riddled with intelligent crossreferences meant to amuse, it just comes across as though it's trying too hard to impress. Billed as a comedy adventure, it's not that funny and the adventure is confusing. However, being confusing means that it's unpredictable to the end, and it is heart-warming in parts."
2. Thompson, Mary Shine (2009-11-14). "Gems of gloom and global warming". Irish Times. ProQuest 309197507.
  The review notes: "Tommy Storm and the Galactic Knights (Quercus, £6.99) is a sequel (but of course) to Tommy Storm, and its narrator helpfully advises readers that they can skip the generous footnotes and information boxes. The book is crammed with characters with names such as A-Sad-Bin-Liner and the kind of smart-alec ripostes, puns (there's a Straddlevarious violin) and exclamations that many youngsters find hilarious. You will get the drift if I tell you that Tommy and Co outwit a monster and mount an offensive against chocolate terrorists to save the universe."
3. The author's website^{Internet Archive} notes: "The Sunday Tribune included Tommy Storm and the Galactic Knights in its Top-Ten list of "the best crossover reads" - being "books that parents can sneak a look at while the kids are doing their homework. Fables that work on one level for kids, and on a mythic level for adults. Books that engage on the kind of emotional plane that some adult novels can only aspire to. And so, in the wake of the Potter and Twilight sagas, here are 10 of the best books to get all ages squabbling this Christmas over who gets to read them first." Tommy Storm and the Galactic Knights is, they say, "an enjoyable romp, full of fizz and humour.""
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Tommy Storm and the Galactic Knights to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 12:36, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep per Cunard's sources. Toughpigs (talk) 00:34, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A. J. Healy

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Doesn't pass WP:NAUTHOR. The only citations provided are reviews for the first book in a series, and most of the information on the author page is about his first book, Tommy Storm and the accompanying series. I have looked for other sources for reviews of the other books, as well as sources discussing Healy, but haven't found any. If sources can't be found, I recommend redirecting to his one notable book, Tommy Storm. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:18, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
1. Hadden, Lauren (December 2006 – January 2007). "Child's Play. At 37, Alan Healy has tried hishand at many things –globetrotting, investment banking,even opening a brick factory in South Africa. His latest endeavour may prove the most successful yet. Lauren Hadden speaks to the self-published author" (PDF). Image. pp. 71–72. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2024-01-27. Retrieved 2024-01-27.
  The article notes: "Against the advice of the careers department at UCD, he decided to travel the world for a while. After globetrotting fromAmerica to Australia and lots of places in between, he came back to Dublin with a loan to pay off. ... He went from a poverty-stricken life of travel to earning “almost immoral” amounts working for investment bank Goldman Sachs in London. ... He stayed on for two years though, saving money and gaining important experience. ... After his adventures in Africa, Healy returned to Dublin in 1998 to try his hand at venture capital and thedot.com boom, getting involved in “various vaguely entrepreneurial things”. After September 11, things changed and he lost interest. He remembered his promise to himself about writing a book. He’d started writing a murder mystery in South Africa and half-heartedly sent it to a few publishers, but it wasn’t the finished article. In March 2002, the writing bug struck again."
2. Smith, Andrea (2008-03-22). "'Brother, You're on the Write Lines'". Irish Independent. Archived from the original on 2024-01-27. Retrieved 2024-01-27.
  The article notes: "The Healy family was a small and close-knit one, because when Alan was five and Ronan was two, their parents' marriage ended, and father Michael left the family home in Deansgrange and emigrated. He is currently based in Thailand, and maintains a good relationship with his sons. ... After school, Alan completed a B Comm, and took a job as an analyst in mergers and acquisitions with investment banking and securities firm Goldman Sachs, in London. Although it was a very well-paid and prestigious job, he knew it wasn't going to be a perfect fit for him long-term, and left after two years. He then entered what he describes as his "idealistic phase", where he went to help start a brick factory in one of South Africa's townships for two years. His adventures there included being held up at gunpoint during a robbery on wages day, a detail he only casually mentioned to his family when he was home for Christmas two months later."
3. McBride, Louise (2015-02-07). "A pioneering Irish firm will make the world a better, warmer place". Irish Independent. Archived from the original on 2024-01-27. Retrieved 2024-01-27.
  The article notes: "Tommy Storm, which was written in 2002 and self-published by Mr Healy in 2006, ties in with the Dubliner's ambition to make the world a better place. Another was his decision to set up Exergyn, along with Barry Cullen and Kevin O'Toole, about three years ago. ... Mr Healy has tried his hand at many things over his working life - from investment banking in Goldman Sachs, London to setting up a brick factory in a township in South Africa, to business consulting,to writing Tommy Storm."
4. Marsden, Shelley (2008-04-29). "Intergalactic Adventure". The Irish World. Archived from the original on 2011-07-17. Retrieved 2024-01-27.
  The article notes: "I meet quietly-spoken, Dublin-based author Alan Healy on a torrentially wet day in a hotel off Bond Street. ... I realise the writer of teen sci-fi adventure Tommy Storm is younger than I imagined. The fair haired writer is 39 (and married, with a 13 month old girl) but for some reason I expected him to be older. Perhaps it’s hearing about all the jobs and experience he’s had in that time. He stays at jobs for such little time that he assures me no bank manager will ever give him a loan. After travelling for a year, then earning big bucks in Goldman Sachs, Healy went to Africa to set up a brick factory in one of the townships, helping locals build homes."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow A. J. Healy to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 12:59, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep per Cunard's sources. Toughpigs (talk) 20:30, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mary Staunton

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~~I couldn't establish that she meets WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 18:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC)~~Reply[reply]

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Keep - collaboration with John Prine, Rick Epping and Brendan Gleeson would seem to meet #6 on WP:MUSICBIO? Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 14:55, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Bastun, it might if we can find refs for it, there aren't at the moment. Thanks for looking at this, not an area I am that familiar with! Boleyn (talk) 08:48, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Weak keep - I accept that the person is established as a musician, and has worked with serious players, but I'm not 100% convinced that this is enough, there's a touch of notability-by-association. But if referenced for the current content, I'd be OK, I'd rather have them in and build up the article if they qualify at all. Some creators really do need to be clearer on the "why notable" point. SeoR (talk) 15:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Weak keep seems to be part of the traditional music scene; not an extensive coverage [ https://www.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/fingal/best-of-irish-music-tour/27784079.html], [24]. These are better [25], [26], [27]. Covered in a public radio piece [28] I'd work some of these into the article if I was writing it. Oaktree b (talk) 13:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Withdraw nomination per convincing comments above. Thanks, everyone. Boleyn (talk) 09:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment. In all honesty, after my own WP:BEFORE, and while I am not minded to recommend deletion, I also can't advocate for a keep. Many of the sources that are available (including those listed by Oaktree b above) are largely trivial passing mentions. The only sources that I can find, which deal with the subject as a primary topic, are the same WP:INTERVIEWs we have in the article. Neither meeting the expectation of WP:IS. The regional news articles, which include the subject in the title and seem to offer a bit more (like "Mary Staunton brings top trad to the stage" (2010) Mayo Advertiser) are, in effect, ROTM gig announcements. Not in-depth/independent/biographical coverage. The (one-off?) collaboration with Prine/Gleeson/Epping doesn't meet my understanding of WP:MUSICBIO#C6 (musicians play on each other's albums all the time - it does not make them an "ensemble" in the meaning given in WP:BAND). "She once collaborated with someone famous" is, I note, the first example given in WP:INHERITED. And, as has been noted by Boleyn, the related assertion/text ~~isn't~~ wasn't supported by a verifiable/independent source either. Anyway, even though it seems like the article is unlikely to be deleted (and I'm not necessarily arguing that it should), as noted by others contributing here, the sources/etc are a little on the "weak" side. To the extent that, if kept, I do not know how that "WP:PRIMARY" tag can be removed. Or how (absent independent/reliable/verifiable sources) we can expand the article beyond the few sentences we have... Guliolopez (talk) 12:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Others

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Italy[edit]

Giovanni Arduino (author)

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Fails WP:NBASIC. Article lacks any citations and only contains one external link to the author's website. Google yields results about the geologist of the same name, but no news coverage or evidence of notability for the author. Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 03:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Weak delete One point not to overlook is that he translated in Italian Stephen King books, and has been interviewed often because of this (example). However, it is still not sufficient to show notability. Broc (talk) 07:31, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Radhika Gupta

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person does not seem notable, seems purely promotional. User4edits (talk) 12:39, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment the sourcing in the article seems to show the notability of the subject. The article needs substantial cleanup to remove WP:PEACOCK and promotional content. I would like to read other editors' opinions with respect to notability.

No Peace Without Justice

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It exists and there are some sources, but not the level of independent, reliable sources to show it meets WP:ORG or WP:GNG. Has been in CAT:NN for 14 years.

1st AfD closed as no consensus due to low participation. Given how long this has been in CAT:NN I think we really need to decide what the consensus is here. Boleyn (talk) 12:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Redirect either to Qatargate or Emma Bonino. It's hopeful to think that this nomination will reach a consensus when nothing about the subject has changed since the first discussion closed four days ago. As a courtesy note, Wiki-etiquette (WP:BEFORE) asks that we Check to see if enough time has passed since previous nominations before renominating, and I'm not sure this shouldn't apply just because the previous outcome was no consensus.

It might be the inclusionist in me talking, but I think the nomination mischaracterises the available coverage: there are many reliable, independent sources that more-than-mention the organisation. Here are some of the sources that came up from a quick search, a few in well-established Italian newspapers: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.

Despite this coverage, my quick searches lead me to believe that the organisation is mostly discussed in the context either of Qatargate (search results) or its founder, Emma Bonino. Nonetheless, searching around the NGO's areas of activity (e.g., FGM) does return some results. So, while I think there is probably just about enough in the sources to meet WP:GNG and justify a standalone article on the NGO, sadly, I suspect no editor will be interested in rewriting this article: Qatargate has an outdated tag, Emma Bonino didn't link to the organisation until a few seconds ago (and that article says nothing about Qatargate), and the organisation's website seems to be down, which makes me wonder if things were wrapped up after Qatargate. The present article is uncited and likely WP:OR, with a previous editor declaring a WP:COI on the talk page. So a redirect to Qatargate or Emma Bonino, without prejudice to the page's recreation as a standalone article should an interested editor take part, strikes me as most appropriate. IgnatiusofLondon (talk) 20:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Sal Sparace

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Not yet notable per WP:CREATIVE, WP:BIO or WP:GNG. In a WP:BEFORE search the only mention I can find of his name is in articles written by Sparace, about Sandro Paternostro. He's worked on some notable shows as technical director, but on Wikipedia notability is not inherited. Wikishovel (talk) 12:07, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete per nom. --Broc (talk) 15:00, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Big Mama stela

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I cannot find any information on this topic to verify anything in this article. This seems like a very marginal topic that doesn't need its own page. Angryapathy (talk) 17:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

After the good work that Joe Roe did with the page, I believe that we can rename this article Arco I and close the discussion. Angryapathy (talk) 19:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete: Nothing for this stone item, lots for Big Mamas of all sorts found... Delete for lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 20:29, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
HOAX? Why would an Italian stele have such an odd English name. Who knows. Oaktree b (talk) 20:30, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep and rename to Arco I. This really is (was) a terrible article: as far as I can tell the "Big Mama" nickname is completely made up, the connection to Ötzi is highly speculative to say the least, and even the title is spelled wrong (it's about a stele, not a stela). But underneath it there is actually a notable topic, which is named in one of the external links as Arco I. Google Scholar and Google Books searches turn up plenty of sources that could be used to expand it. For now I've stubbed it to verifiable info. If kept it should be moved, if not to Arco I then to something like Arco stelae where we could cover the whole group of six. – Joe (talk) 09:00, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Rename per above. Llajwa (talk) 16:38, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Merge to a not-yet-created Arco stelae page. I think Arco I alone might not meet the notability criteria. --Broc (talk) 18:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment. Arco I itself is notable, I think the references linked above and now cited in the article amply show that. The question is more one of WP:PAGEDECIDE: covering them together in Arco stelae would avoid repeating a lot of contextual information, but we currently only have material on Arco I, so unless someone is volunteering to write about the others I don't see that as a viable outcome right now. In any case, I don't see why that needs to be decided at AfD. – Joe (talk) 10:32, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Barabàn

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. It has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve this. Boleyn (talk) 13:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete as nom. – PharyngealImplosive7 (talk) 14:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
~~Strong delete~~, you probably should have proposed this article for deletion. Mach61 (talk) 15:31, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Mach61 is that still the case with the sources linked in the comments below? Broc (talk) 16:56, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's possible for an artist to have notable works without being notable themselves, but the two sources Broc posted appear to show the band meeting NMUSIC. FWIW I remember finding absolutely nothing in my BEFORE search, hence the strong delete vote, but clearly others have been more fruitful in their searches. Consider my vote withdrawn. Mach61 (talk) 17:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: I don't know anything about the Italian non-metal music press, but their work has been reviewed by at least two paper magazines. Geschichte (talk) 18:11, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Weak keep per by previous post. No sign of a WP:BEFORE above. Geschichte (talk) 08:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep per Geschichte - they are regionally notable. Llajwa (talk) 21:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Weak keep per above. Only regionally notable. A couple more sources: [29] [30] --Broc (talk) 16:54, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Musica a Palazzo

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. It has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve this. Boleyn (talk) 20:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Weak keep The group is still active and the experience they offer has a huge number of reviews on Tripadvisor (I know, I know, famous != notable), which makes me think there could be reliable secondary sources talking about it. I couldn't find any so far but I probably didn't dig deep enough. --Broc (talk) 21:34, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep: I found a 2018 review of the group in the Seattle Gay Times, and a syndicated article (here in the Baltimore Sun) from 2018 about travel in Venice that gives the group a four-sentence paragraph. Also reviewed in Lonely Planet Pocket Venice, Rick Steve's Italy 2020, 50 Places in Rome, Florence and Venice Every Woman Should Know, and lots of other guidebooks. It appears to be a quite popular attraction in Venice. Toughpigs (talk) 23:39, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Merge into Palazzo Barbarigo Minotto. Notability concern aside, the article has a promotional tone, most obviously in the Reviews section. For this reason, the entry on the Italian-language Wikipedia was speedily-deleted two months after the English-language page was created, and has not been recreated. Though it sounds like the article might meet WP:GNG by its coverage in reviews, a subheading in Palazzo Barbarigo Minotto, appropriate because the group rents a floor of this building, may be sufficient and prevent a WP:PERMASTUB. Finally, let's not overlook that the group's name is, literally, music in the palace. IgnatiusofLondon (talk) 19:36, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Others

Hexperos (via WP:PROD on 10 September 2023)
Benedicaria (via WP:PROD on 7 September 2023)

Latvia[edit]

Jurijs Baranovs

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Does not meet WP:GNG. The best example of coverage cited thus far is this coverage in Latvian, but it does not make a case for GNG in itself; I was unable to find additional independent coverage other than interviews, database entries, and trivial mentions in match writeups, having searched in English/Latvian and also Russian. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 16:53, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Aleksandrs Kublinskis

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. It has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve this. Boleyn (talk) 15:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment: Can probably close one of these, appears to have been duplicate AfDs submitted Oaktree b (talk) 16:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep as has reliable sources coverage such as this and this. Also, the Latvian wikipedia article here states that he received two notable awards The Latvian Music Record of the Year Award and an honorary knighthood from the Latvian government. It also indicates he has an entry in the Latvian National Encyclopaedia although the link doesn't work, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:14, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Ance (given name)

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PROD removed. This name fails WP:NNAME and WP:GNG. Hardly any information or reliable sources found online. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 00:11, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep. Useful and referenced with several bearers of the name who could potentially be the subject of future articles. Expandvand improve articles; do not delete them. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 01:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment Two of the redlinks were recently created and were immediately draftified for lack of sources demonstrating notability. Even so, it can always be recreated if articles about people with the name come along in the future. And what if an article can't be expanded? Like I said, I can hardly find reliable sources online. Being referenced doesn't mean much if the sources don't demonstrate notability. "Useful" is quite an arbitrary description. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 03:44, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There really is no good reason to delete instead of improving it or deleting it so someone else will have to come along and recreate it. The point of an encyclopedia is to expand knowledge, not to remove it from view. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 05:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reply Yes, to expand knowledge on encyclopedic subjects. I will try to convince you once again to read WP:NOTEVERYTHING, especially WP:NOTDICT. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 00:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This, as far as I can tell, is encyclopedic and has the potential to be improved. If it is not inherently wrong or unreferenced, an article should not be deleted. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 07:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reply What's inherently wrong is that it's not notable. I can't find any reliable sources that contain information not already in the article. If you think it can be improved, why don't you do it? Your beliefs essentially go against the essence of Wikipedia, and all of your arguments have been ignoring rules. If you don't like the rules, you can try to change them elsewhere; they are valid as they stand. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 22:50, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As I did elsewhere, I'll call attention to WP:IAR, a policy which also exists, and associated policies. I'd say that some of the policies mentioned here are getting in the way of maintaining a quality encyclopedia and are increasing the bureaucracy and probably having the effect of discouraging editing on what is supposed to be a free encyclopedia created by collaborative volunteers. There are likely ways to improve this article without deleting it altogether. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 17:50, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reply Notability is bureaucratic? AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 00:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Notability is pretty arbitrary as is, admittedly, my perception that it is notable and useful. If it’s factually wrong, of course it should be corrected or improved, amended, etc. . If someone just doesn’t think it fits the guidelines (which have never been set in stone), maybe someone should take a closer look at whether that guideline is actually useful. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 03:57, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Reply There may be some room for arbitrary-ness, yes, but I think these articles pretty blatantly fail the guidelines. I guess you're right that they've never been set in stone, but these ones have been used and widely accepted for some years now. AfDs aren't a roundabout way to challenged guidelines/policies either. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 04:56, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
WP:IAR and its related policies are also policies like the ones you’re quoting here and they are intended to keep legalism from getting in the way of creating or maintaining an encyclopedia. I assume we agree that articles that are unreferenced or are factually incorrect should be deleted if the information can’t be corrected and linked to reliable sources. We might disagree over what constitutes a reliable source as we do on notability, but that’s the standard I would say is set in stone. The information must be accurate. As far as I can discern, this article and the others you want to delete are indeed accurate and can probably be improved upon, which makes deleting them inappropriate under a reasonable standard. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 17:26, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reply Yes, we agree on the second part. Accuracy is set in stone, yes, but as is notability. Notability may be a bit more subjective and flexible, but it is a cornerstone of Wikipedia and current guidelines are generally community consensus. They could change in the future but that possibility doesn't make it appropriate to keep them now. On a side note, I feel like this page is getting butchered by the length of this debate. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 04:50, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Draftify - Appears to be common and notable at a glance but article doesn’t cite any sources. WilsonP NYC (talk) 02:55, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Reply to Wilson. "At a glance". Yes, but commonness doesn't necessarily demonstrate notability. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 06:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

WP:IAR is also one of the foundational rules here and I would say deleting an article that could potentially be improved will get in the way of maintaining a quality encyclopedia. This is important enough to get right, regardless of the length of the debate. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 01:55, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reply Yes, I agree that IAR is an important rule, but I don't find it any less arbitrary than notability; in fact, it is probably more so. As I've said before, improving an article is only an option if the subject is notable, which these subjects, when comparing them to criteria laid out by the project and approved by the community, I do not believe meet those guidelines. I am not a deletionist nor an inclusionist; I simply look at the rules and attempt to get people to enforce them, I do not discriminate against users, and I know hardliners who would have wanted many more of your articles deleted, but I do not. Wikipedia just isn't a collection of indiscriminate information, trivia or definitions. As I see it, we're at a deadlock. You wouldn't want an article made on every name in existence, would you? AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 05:30, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete. Fails MOS:DABNOMENTION as a disambiguation article without a single existing article. Geschichte (talk) 10:03, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reply Not exactly a disambiguation page, but yes, same idea, fails WP:NNAME. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 06:42, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep, I believe it would be a wonderful idea if the linked entries on the page will established individually as articles on En wiki.Alayyop (talk) 15:46, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It would, but this is not the case. Geschichte (talk) 12:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey, um, can someone maybe strike this down as a vote from a sockpuppet? User:Liz, maybe? AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 06:42, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just letting whoever is reviewing this know that this vote should be discounted as it is from a now-blocked sockpuppet. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 01:59, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Struck. BD2412 T 03:06, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Merge to Anica, of which this is a regional variation (see Stuart Wilson (2015). Simply the Best Baby Name Book. p. 55. ISBN 1447265971.). There are a wide variety of names derived from diminutives of the classic Greek name Anna, including this one as well as Ancia, Anka, Anika, and Anicka. Information about these names can be presented in a single place, and, importantly, does not require the presence of a notable person with the name for the name itself to be notable. BD2412 T 03:11, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @WilsonP NYC and Geschichte: Would the proposed merge satisfy your concerns? BD2412 T 03:12, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  - Are you proposing that all related names be merged? That would be a hard pass from me, as it would be more messy and verge on failing WP:SYNTH - just look at Anika which jumbles together names of different origin. Geschichte (talk) 08:51, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    - I am proposing that these two articles, for which a source identifies a common name origin, be merged. This is rather the opposite of the situation with "Anika". BD2412 T 14:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      - Are you proposing something like what happened with Antė? My only concern is that it would be strange to just list this one variant without any notable people under the name, and there is not much information to merge here. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 03:36, 1 February 2024 (UTC) AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 03:33, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
        I don't think much more information is needed. It is obviously a name in use, with a sourceable etymology connecting it to another name sharing that etymology. If not merged, I would opt to keep rather than delete altogether. The presence of notable people sharing an attested name should be of no more significance than the presence or absence of notable people living in an attested town. BD2412 T 03:58, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
        I don't necessarily agree with that last sentence but I don't feel like getting into all that right now so I could endorse a merge if we listed relevant cognates and variants, such as those aforementioned. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 04:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
        @BD2412. You were the one who brought up Anika. And are you sure that "Simply the Best Baby Name Book" is an ideal source? The name sounds somewhat frivolous. Geschichte (talk) 07:57, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- I wouldn’t be opposed to this, though I kind of agree with Geschichte, but I’m not sure that Anika is the best analogy. Anything is better than it being kept at this point, as it seems like this AfD may go towards no consensus. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 16:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- And it would be kind of awkward to just have Ance there unless we added more variants. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 16:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
  Relisting comment: There are a lot of options being put forward here, and I'm not seeing a consensus yet. Also, as a courtesy note, there is no need to bold the word "reply" each time one replies to someone else; the line indentation serves the purpose of indicating which comments were being replied to.
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I was not aware of this, thank you for telling me. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 03:33, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Lithuania[edit]

Prince Inigo of Urach

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Small Planet Airlines (Cambodia)

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Fails WP:NCORP. scope_creep^Talk 18:46, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Redirect to Small Planet Airlines as a premature WP:SPINOFF, where the content cannot be safely merged. This is another example of how excessive fragmentation harms the upkeep and access to information, resulting in a bad user experience. I would like to widen the debate and also suggest the following:

Small Planet Airlines (disambiguation) – delete

Small Planet Airlines (Germany) – redirect to Small Planet Airlines

Small Planet Airlines (Italy) – redirect to Small Planet Airlines

Small Planet Airlines (Poland) – redirect to Small Planet Airlines

The Italy and Cambodia operations were tiny. Just two airplanes. Poland and Germany were somewhat larger yet also these articles remained underdeveloped. The airlines shared one ownership and name. After concentrating on one article, hopefully, more information we will be brought to the parent, and its text will be improved. That's an urgent need as some of the text implies 6 years later that the company is still active and the undisclosed paid warning doesn't help build trust either. gidonb (talk) 07:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Gidonb: I never saw them. Kudos for finding them. scope_creep^Talk 19:22, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you, also for concentrating on unnecessary SPINOFFs! Excessive SPINOFFs make information management a pain and the user experience hellish! gidonb (talk) 10:36, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Its nothing something I've thought about but will in the future. I think it is really important. scope_creep^Talk 12:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please do. Also these have great options for ATDs: merge and redirect. gidonb (talk) 12:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

BAA Training

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Fails WP:NCORP. Refs are routine business news and annoucements scope_creep^Talk 18:15, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep good referencing meeting basic media coverage requirements and generally notable company as the biggest on Europe airplane pilots training establishmnet; also checked local newspapers in Lithunian and found coverage in the best local media like 15min, vz.lt, etc. Definitely keep it, but the language and tone should be changed to meet Wikipedia-neutral language. I also added some good sources and events to the page. BoraVoro (talk) 13:42, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can you post WP:THREE reference so we can see what references you found, because I don't think there is anything apart from the usual trade PR and press-releases. scope_creep^Talk 19:25, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

already added to the page BoraVoro (talk) 08:06, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Both those references you added to the article fail WP:ORGIND and WP:SIRS. The first one states: "Textron Aviation says on its website that the contract was signed during last week's", so that is a press-release. The second one "Vytautas Jankauskas, executive director of BAA Training Vietnam, said in the announcement." fails WP:ORGIND and WP:SIRS. I think your a UPE dude. scope_creep^Talk 09:45, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I agree, the sources are more like press-releases. But, I didn't tell I added three best sources (as you may think), but I added some new sources to the page. My fault that reply sounded like "I did find and added". And please refrain from blaming me in some sort of promotion, as it is even prohibited by by Wikipedia. I think there is some rule, that the article and sources should be discussed, not people. BoraVoro (talk) 10:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

https://www.elnacional.cat/es/tecnologia/los-pilotos-de-air-india-se-formaran-en-lleida-alguaire_1112328_102.html kind of good source. But I'm not sure if it passes Orgind BoraVoro (talk) 10:44, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

International Client's day

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Spam. Previously deleted. Fails WP:N, WP:NCORP. Cabrils (talk) 00:42, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete as pure promotional spam. Renata•3 02:55, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment I don’t see how this is spam exactly, since it doesn’t seem to be promoting a specific business, but rather a concept that a bunch of businesses are trying to turn into a thing. If it actually is a thing in Lithuania, it’s weird that it is not on Lithuanian or Russian Wikipedia. the article implies that it failed to be officially approved by the government. I would be inclined to delete it, but I can’t evaluate the Russian language references. Llajwa (talk) 16:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

AviaAM Leasing

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Fails WP:NCORP. Not a single ref passes WP:SIRS. Before is a similar message. scope_creep^Talk 23:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete non notable. Llajwa (talk) 16:20, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
~~Keep~~ ~~Weak Delete~~ is notable as an aviation company; while the sourcing is not the best here, a random Google search, especially in local newspapers or languages, shows pretty much coverage in reliable national media. --BoraVoro (talk) 13:46, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What coverage would that be exactly? I've already a pretty comprehensive WP:BEFORE and I didn't see much at all. Have you got three per WP:THREE that can prove its notable. scope_creep^Talk 19:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

WP THREE is an essay, not a rule/guideline. BoraVoro (talk) 08:08, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

WP:THREE was cofirmed as best practice per consensus last summer. If you have evidence post it up. I don't think you do. I do think your a UPE though. scope_creep^Talk 09:39, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can you please send me that discussion, I would be glad to see it. I recently found out, that essays are not good way to discuss, that's why I do not rely on them. Also, don't blame in UPE me, it's not nice :) but I do see why you think so, as I am not for Deletion. You wanna change my mind? :) I may change the vote, but don't want to mess around with ~~Keep~~Delete. However, I do agree with the decision to delete the page - I did research more to prove my claim and found very little (regarding reliable sources). BoraVoro (talk) 10:36, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Changed to Weak Delete - agree with @Scope creep and don't object WP:THREE rule to be applied here. BoraVoro (talk) 10:38, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete Rather astonishingly, for a company that apparently operates 10 A320s, it is surprisingly bereft of RS, though the article is heavily WP:REFBOMBed in a way that creates an initial appearance to the contrary. Chetsford (talk) 05:35, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Moldova[edit]

Embassy of the United States, Chișinău

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This article is merely a list of staff and former ambassadors. Fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 23:09, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Montenegro[edit]

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Netherlands[edit]

Djshop

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All sources are affiliated or press releases. As with Feiyr, this appears to be the work of company employees. 14.12.72.97 (talk) 11:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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EnergyX

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Fails WP:NCORP. scope_creep^Talk 02:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Weak Keep may be notable per NEXIST (sources that exist but have not yet been added per language barrier, or something like that. At least, the US TechCrunch has a good source on EnergyX. --BoraVoro (talk) 10:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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North Macedonia[edit]

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Norway[edit]

Simrad Yachting

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No evidence of any significant or independent coverage. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:06, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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John Røen

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Does not appear notable per WP:SPORTBASIC - competed in one Olympic event in 1928 but did not finish, and seems to have received very little coverage since then - I can only find a few passing mentions or records in sports databases. Ethmostigmus (talk) 10:56, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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I am probably able to save it. Cross-country skiing is the national sport in Norway, and he is covered in several books - as well as contemporary and later news. Geschichte (talk) 10:03, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That would be much appreciated :) Ethmostigmus (talk) 10:45, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Done, so keep. Enough in-depth significant coverage, although he, unlike his brother, does not have an entire book dedicated to him. (I haven't used this book in the article yet) Geschichte (talk) 11:02, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep, per excellent work by Geschitchte. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:06, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also very happy to keep in light of all the print coverage Geschitchte was able to find :) Ethmostigmus (talk) 06:49, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mileo

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Aside from having been created by a WP:SPA which edits *only* in the field of Mileo's articles (and created Echo (Mileo song), Know You Better (Mileo song) and Worry (song), none of which met NSONG and which I've redirected now), there's no conferrance of notability here. Fails WP:NMUSIC - the only coverage I can find in a reliable source is the VG article about his song sparking some outrage. Rest of sources are just Facebook/WP:SELFPUB/interviews with the artist which are excluded under NMUSIC, and the closest in terms of chart notability is "Echo" which placed 202nd in Russia's charts, a far cry from notability. Any coverage he has received is because of his participation in Melodi Grand Prix 2024 (Norway's Eurovision pre-selection event), which brings WP:BLP1E into play, and even that has just been mentioning his name or song in articles about it, so doesn't meet sigcov. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 10:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete: This blog is all I find for coverage [31], not quite enough. Oaktree b (talk) 14:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete: To me, this clearly seems like the SPA was made seemingly by Mileo himself to get himself a page, or it was done by a large fan of his. Does not meet notability requirements as mentioned above, and so no reason to have the page. Wikidaddy42 (talk) 18:58, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep: Whether the creator of this page was originally an SPA or not is irrelevant, the article is clearly of a notable musician that has been in current media a lot especially recently. Margaretrox (talk) 22:51, 26 January 2024 (UTC) — Margaretrox (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Reply[reply]

You are also a SPA. Wikidaddy42 (talk) 21:33, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The editing history of this page isn't from just a few users but many who are aware of the subject. i'm concerned this user has a personal issue with the artist in question, the figure is publicly notable in Norway. Margaretrox (talk) 22:37, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep:

pre-Melodi Grand Prix sources:

[32]

[33] Skybly (talk) 22:06, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Both of these are just articles in a local newspaper and do not confer notability. The COVID-19 one appears to be an interview, which is excluded by WP:NMUSIC per other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves. That leaves one local newspaper article, which is nowhere near enough to meet WP:NMUSIC. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 22:30, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep: if the issues are with the references on the page then just update the references, there are many sources https://www.nettavisen.no/5-95-1592809 the artist is still notable NorHux (talk) 07:53, 31 January 2024 (UTC) — NorHux (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Reply[reply]

is refusing to acknowledge relevant and viable articles to the subject in this thread NorHux (talk) 10:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That's one additional article which mentions the song as a participant in MGP, which falls under WP:BLP1E. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 13:59, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mentioning a program the song appears on doesn't warrant a disregard of an article, the article's purpose is a debate on the controversy surrounding lyrics of a recent musical release, not a show it appears on. NorHux (talk) 23:33, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Inner Ear

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Tagged for notability for 9 years, fails WP:NCORP. It's a small record label that had an output of 30. Not to be confused with other labels of the same name. Geschichte (talk) 12:13, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@Geschichte Surely you should bundle this AfD with Inner Ear albums discography? Mach61 (talk) 17:09, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

~~:Delete - There are some very notable entries in the music canon with this name but this isn’t one of them. No independent coverage cited at all. WilsonP NYC (talk) 17:19, 21 January 2024 (UTC)~~Reply[reply]

Keep or Merge. The Discogs page cited by the nominator gives 30 releases, almost every one of which was put out by an artist of some note. That suggests the label meets WP:MUSIC's sense of one of the more important indies. However, a goodly number of them are by the founders of the label, the brothers Tore Johansen and Roger Johansen, both of whom, you'll note, have articles. So a merge makes some sense - but so does keeping, since the eventual redirect to one or the other musician awkwardly excludes the other, and so pragmatically a separate article kind of makes more sense. But leaving a redlink here is the worst possible conclusion. Chubbles (talk) 22:45, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep - I should have done more research before my vote, I made a mistake. The current article is thinly sourced but the label seems to clearly meet notability criteria and should be improved not deleted. WilsonP NYC (talk) 22:54, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete that the label may confer notability upon its artists in no way confers notability upon the label. We should never have articles on subjects which lack the secondary sourcing to grow beyond a directory entry, as this label does. Mach61 (talk) 16:22, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Beyond Records (Norway)

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Tiny record label which fails WP:NCORP. Geschichte (talk) 11:23, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment - this record label didn't last long, but it certainly did field a roster of noteworthy artists, some of which charted substantially in Norway. Can we get someone who has facility with Norwegian to look for in-language literature? My instinct is to default to a weak keep here as the label seems close to meeting WP:MUSIC's sense of one of the more important indies. Chubbles (talk) 22:39, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment; WP:MUSIC is not a guideline for labels Geschichte (talk) 19:38, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, I don't see why we would reject subject-specific material in a guideline, and it certainly makes more sense for music experts to be assessing label notability than corporation experts. I actually proposed a set of guidelines at WP:MUSIC for labels a few years back; I should probably resurrect that conversation. Chubbles (talk) 02:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That's something you ought to address in relevant talk pages or Village Pump. Graywalls (talk) 08:03, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete Fails WP:NCORP without significant coverage in multiple, completely independent, reliable sources of broad audience interest. I agree with ~~OwenX~~ Geschichte that NMUSIC is not applicable here simply because the institution/organization/company is of music related field. Graywalls (talk) 13:31, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I merely added the discussion to a few deletion sorting lists. I don't have strong feelings about the article either way. Owen× ☎ 14:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I attributed to wrong user. Disregard. Graywalls (talk) 23:38, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment. Happy to share that I found one good source. That's not enough for a keep and also the article is extremely short. Leaning delete for now. If someone finds another good source, ping me. gidonb (talk) 02:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Her Royal Harness

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Fails WP:GNG. Could not find significant coverage in English language sources and I doubt any exists in Norwegian ones either. Keivan.f^Talk 09:23, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment. 6 hits in Norwegian. They are actual reviews, but woefully few. Geschichte (talk) 11:16, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Any "significant" coverage in sources though? Maybe even the Norwegian ones? Because if none exists then it does not meet the notability criteria. Keivan.f^Talk 22:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment. Among the 6 hits, only 4 of them were reviews, but they were somewhat significant, so it may scrape by together with the sources that are already in the article. Geschichte (talk) 12:20, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:25, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Petrine Olgeirsdottir[edit]

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WP:SIGCOV failure. Previously prodded with a rationale that the Deaflympics is not an event that gets much media coverage. As a result, there are no independent news about Petrine Olgeirsdottir in her home country. The National Library archives yield 11 hits, all completely trivial. 10 of the 11 hits are random coverage of local children. The last hit is about the sign language rapper Signmark whom she showed up to watch. Of the 5 sources already in the article, all are WP:PRIMARY or WP:PASSING or both. Further googling yields hits about deaf futsal (primary, passing), [34] (primary, very short). This is more significant, but again primary. This and this article are about sign language interpretation and the subject undertaking a bachelor's degree, which is not something people become known for. There is a discussion worth having on the basis of WP:BIAS, but sports events don't really bestow automatic notability anymore, including the Olympics. Geschichte (talk) 09:47, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete: Name popped up here, not sure if it's the same person [35], but it's trivial regardless. Nothing else I can find to support notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:25, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There's also this NRK article on the sign language interpretation issues she's experiencing in her studies, similar to the other articles you listed. Bridget (talk) 01:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It would be the original article from which the Teknomers piece is translated. But would it confer notability upon a person? Geschichte (talk) 10:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete: BLP, Fails GNG and NBIO. Sources in article and BEFORE found nothing with WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS WP:RS addressing the subject directly and indepth. this is mainly an interview, fails WP:IS. I thought I would be able to find sources, if anyone does post sources, ping me (actual SIGCOV). BLPs require strong sourcing. // Timothy :: talk 06:41, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment She has participated in Deaflympics which is equivalent of Olympics for deaf people. I understand that it might not be complying with WP:GNG if you look solely on her Deaflympic career. Abishe (talk) 02:51, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mustafa Haji Ismail Harun

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This article is hard to understand. What it looks like, though, is a puff piece. WP:PEACOCK concerns are always fixable, but the real concern here is WP:RS. Can RS be located with community input? What I can state for certain, is that no person named Mustafe Ismail or Mustafe Haji is known in Norway in the slightest, yielding 0 hits in the nation's comprehensive media archive. On the other hands, there are considerable problems of how his name should be translated, and the article has already been through a disputed move. Unless the community has fruitful input, my opinion is that it's too indiscernable what makes him pass WP:GNG with WP:RS. Geschichte (talk) 14:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep: This article meets WP:PSTS secondary source BBC News Somali, [36] — YT of Sheikh Shibli; [37] QalasQalas (talk) 17:01, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A single reliable source is not enough. Youtube is irrelevant. Geschichte (talk) 20:52, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
These WP:SECONDARY and WP:TERTIARY; Horseed Media, Hiiraan Online, MENAFN, and Sahafi Newspaper, may strengthen and reinforce the WP:RS, increasingly overall reliability of the WP:Article.
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I'm not swayed in the slightest. One of the sources is a letter to the subject. Another is a "newspaper" hosted by Wordpress. We need some non-involved eyes on this, which I hope the closer/relister agrees on. Geschichte (talk) 10:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep Covered by BBC and other highly regarded news outlets. Also quite well known in the Somali-Norwegian community. Batmanthe8th (talk) 19:11, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can you demonstrate that he is well known in the Somali-Norwegian community? BBC does not cover this claim, and a person by that name is demonstrably utterly unknown in general Norwegian society. And what is he known for? This is wholly incomprehensible from the article. Something about wisdom. Wisdom in which outlets, forums or publications? Which independent sources have assessed these publications? Geschichte (talk) 20:52, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete: So widely known, there is no coverage about him? The BBC article seems to be all there is. I don't see anything else. Oaktree b (talk) 13:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Horseed Media is a RS per the CiteHighlighter (green), but it's a small article. Oaktree b (talk) 13:01, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete - promotional PR sheet - no RS support for wp:n. Llajwa (talk) 21:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Djshop

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All sources are affiliated or press releases. As with Feiyr, this appears to be the work of company employees. 14.12.72.97 (talk) 11:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Fails WP:NCORP. References are PR, routine annoucements and routine business news, funding. scope_creep^Talk 14:27, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Bronisław Gostomski

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No evidence of this meeting WP:NBIO. A priest who died in a high-profile crash. Pl Wikipedia article is a bit longer but also has nothing suggesting notability (just an obituary). A posthumous award of Order of Polonia Restituta, likely mass-awarded to everyone who died in said tragic event (~90 people) is not enough. WP:ATD-R would be to redirect this to List of casualties of the Smolensk air disaster. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:06, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep. It is true that all those killed in the crash were given the order. However, he was appointed Commander of the Order of Polonia Restituta rather than one of the lower grades, which probably qualifies for WP:ANYBIO #1, although the lower grades probably don't. We would certainly consider the equivalent grades in the British honours system to meet ANYBIO (and have done so many times). -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:28, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
But context is relevant: getting an award for being in the wrong place/time (dying int he aforementioned incident) is just a nice tweak to WP:NOTMEMORIAL. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:24, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Have you considered that maybe these people would have been up for the honour in life anyway, but died before they could receive it? For the lower levels I would agree with you, just "recognition" for dying in a notable incident (a bit weird, in my opinion, but often done in some countries; France tends to hand out the Légion d'honneur for things like this, for instance), but not the higher levels. There's a reason these people were not made a knight or officer, but received a higher honour. And it's not just seniority, as some senior people did receive one of the lower grades. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:35, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If they are notable for other reasons, we need other sources to say so. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The Polish wikipedia article states that he was a chaplain of Ryszard Kaczorowski, and was honoured by the Pope and received an annual award during his lifetime so am leaning Keep, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:52, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Weak keep. I'm seeing a short obituary in The Times, another in Gazeta Wyborcza, and another on Polskie Radio. I can also find a longer, bylined obit in Richmond and Twickenham Times, with other substantial coverage in The Telegraph and Argus, Wiadomosci, The Daily Telegraph, and The Evening Standard. He was also apparently somewhat known locally for work with Polish immigrants in the U.K.. A lot of this is coverage related to his death, or other coverage published around the time of his death, though he was also featured in a front-page story of the Peterborough Herald and Post in 1991, although he wasn't the subject of that article.
Regarding WP:ANYBIO#1, the papal award appears to merely be monsignor, which wouldn't confer notability. But, the Polish award of Commander of the Order of Polonia Restituta seems to meet that. There's also the consideration of WP:1E, but merging seems to be infeasible due to the way that the list article is structured.
In light of all the above, I think keeping this as a standalone works best. We've got a pass on WP:ANYBIO#1, and thus a pass of WP:NBIO, and we have enough in terms of sourcing to write a brief biographical entry about this priest. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 04:16, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Weak keep: based on the explanations above and the "award" given to him (I'm not sure that's the correct term). We have enough for a brief article Oaktree b (talk) 14:21, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mariusz Handzlik

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No evidence of this meeting WP:NBIO. Non-notable minor bureaucrat/politician (Undersecretary of State in the Office of the President of the Republic of Poland) who died in a high-profile crash. Pl Wikipedia article is a bit longer but also has nothing suggesting notability (obits, plus minor coverage related to a minor scandal he was involved in shortly before his death). A posthumous award of Order of Polonia Restituta, likely mass-awarded to everyone who died in said tragic event (~90 people) is not enough. WP:ATD-R would be to redirect this to List of casualties of the Smolensk air disaster. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:04, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep. It is true that all those killed in the crash were given the order. However, he was appointed Commander of the Order of Polonia Restituta rather than one of the lower grades, which probably qualifies for WP:ANYBIO #1, although the lower grades probably don't. We would certainly consider the equivalent grades in the British honours system to meet ANYBIO (and have done so many times). -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:11, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
But context is relevant: getting an award for being in the wrong place/time (dying int he aforementioned incident) is just a nice tweak to WP:NOTMEMORIAL. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:24, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Have you considered that maybe these people would have been up for the honour in life anyway, but died before they could receive it? For the lower levels I would agree with you, just "recognition" for dying in a notable incident (a bit weird, in my opinion, but often done in some countries; France tends to hand out the Légion d'honneur for things like this, for instance), but not the higher levels. There's a reason these people were not made a knight or officer, but received a higher honour. And it's not just seniority, as some senior people did receive one of the lower grades. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:36, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If they are notable for other reasons, we need other sources to say so. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Weak keep. If I'm reading the source on the PlWiki article correctly, this individual also seems to have been awarded the Portuguese Order of Merit in 2009 (before his death), and there's also some coverage of him in 2009 in Wiadomosci regarding alleged collaboration with the Communist regime. On the scholarly/diplomatic side, he appears to be mentioned by name on multiple occasions in a speech by the President of Estonia, he led a Delegation between Poland and Turkey, met with Syrian officials on behalf of the Poles, and performed other diplomatic functions. There some coverage of his analysis on the Partnership for Peace that I can find, and he appears to have been awarded the Freedom House's Palmer Prize (see list). Aside from all that, there's a fairly in-depth article from 1996 in The Jewish Voice about his work regarding Polish-Jewish reconciliation (as well as a few JTA pieces that also refer to this). And of course there's also the flurry of coverage around the time of his death; many of these sources are in the PlWiki article already, and WP:SIGCOV is easily met. What this all makes clear is that we have a case here where it's clearly not WP:1E, and where we have significant coverage by multiple independent RS.
WP:NOTMEMORIAL states Subjects of encyclopedia articles must satisfy Wikipedia's notability requirements. Wikipedia is not the place to memorialize deceased friends, relatives, acquaintances, or others who do not meet such requirements. But this person easily meets WP:ANYBIO#1 for the Polish and Portuguese state honors, and also meets WP:NBASIC, so NOTMEMORIAL is not violated. On top of that, I think there's substantial enough coverage that an article can be written about him in a standalone fashion, so I see no need to redirect or merge. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 04:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Zdzisław Król

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No evidence of this meeting WP:NBIO. A priest, medium-ranked in Catholic hierarchy, who died in a high-profile crash. Pl Wikipedia article is a bit longer but also has nothing suggesting notability (just some obits). A posthumous award of Order of Polonia Restituta, likely mass-awarded to everyone who died in said tragic event (~90 people) is not enough. WP:ATD-R would be to redirect this to List of casualties of the Smolensk air disaster. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:02, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Artur Ziętek

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No evidence of this meeting WP:NBIO. Non-notable Polish airforce officer who died in a high-profile crash. Pl Wikipedia article is a bit longer but also has nothing suggesting notability except some obituaries. A posthumous award of Order of Polonia Restituta, likely mass-awarded to everyone who died in said tragic event (~90 people) is not enough. WP:ATD-R would be to redirect this to List of casualties of the Smolensk air disaster. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:55, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Weak keep It looks like there are some sources around link. 50.237.173.2 (talk) 23:46, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What I see is WP:OBIT and please be precise, what soruces? WP:THEREMAYBESOURCES... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:01, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Jarosław Florczak

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No evidence of this meeting WP:NBIO. Non-notable security functionary (lt. col) who died in a high-profile crash. Pl Wikipedia article is a bit longer but also has nothing suggesting notability (coverage is at obituary level at best). A posthumous award of Order of Polonia Restituta, likely mass-awarded to everyone who died in said tragic event (~90 people) is not enough. WP:ATD-R would be to redirect this to List of casualties of the Smolensk air disaster. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:52, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Paweł Janeczek

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No evidence of this meeting WP:NBIO. Non-notable minor security functionary who died in a high-profile crash. Pl Wikipedia article is a bit longer but also has nothing suggesting notability. A posthumous award of Order of Polonia Restituta, likely mass-awarded to everyone who died in said tragic event (~90 people) is not enough. WP:ATD-R would be to redirect this to List of casualties of the Smolensk air disaster. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:46, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Paweł Mróz

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I couldn't find any significant coverage of this bobsleigh athlete, even in Polish. The best I could find is biography, but I don't think the source is reliable. He also never had medal record.

It's also strange that the Polish Wikipedia is actually linked to basketball player of the same name and birth year, instead of the correct one. Corresponding article of bobsleigh athlete Paweł Mróz is likewise a stub without major changes since its last editing in 2022: Neither of the two sources cover Pawel Mroz himself... only brief mentions. Otherwise, it would copy over English Wikipedia.

Given that bobsleigh athlete Paweł Mróz is almost 40 years old, his career is probably over and he might never make anymore comeback in bobsleigh tournament.

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Comment There's his bio at the Polish Olympic Committee website, there this interview a local site from where he's from had with him. Rest are mostly tangential mentions that he was on the team that got disqualified in 2014. I suppose this is worth being added but would it be enough to rescue the article? --Ouro (blah blah) 09:04, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Dropping a note here for @Piotrus: in the event they can identify potential sourcing and/or fix the interwiki issue. Star Mississippi 01:37, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Redirect. Not seeing anything except passing mentions, but I am also not listing Polish article at Polish Wikipedia's AfD's equivalent as they are more inclusionist (we have decided a while ago participation in the olympics does not give automatic notability, but Polish Wikipedia disagrees). So I guess he can survive there, and of course at Wikidata. As for us, this should be a redirect to Bobsleigh at the 2010 Winter Olympics – Four-man.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:18, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
PS. According to pl wiki he also participated in the 2014 olympics. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:11, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Brand24

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Only one independent sigcov source, doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:NCORP. A search for other sources only returns trivial/routine coverage. AlexandraAVX (talk) 13:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete - still no indication of notability per WP:GNG or WP:NCORP. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:05, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete – There seems to be a review on PCMag, but rest of the sources are just press releases, it seems. TLA (talk) 04:38, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep – Note: I am main author of this article. According to Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), publicly traded companies nearly always can be established as a notable. This was also my understanding while I was adding this article - it is about company that can be searched in multiple investing tools. In this short stub-article nearly all sentences are with references reliable sources, but I am happy to add more, if needed. Mlepicki (talk) 12:21, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Edit: Adding sample media coverage:
  - Business Insider - https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-review-all-marketing-partners-instagram-data-scraping-2019-8?IR=T
  - Wyborcza.pl, one of biggest newspapers in Poland: https://wyborcza.biz/biznes/7,177150,25313272,internety-robil-az-zablokowal-go-facebook-michal-sadowski.html
  - Polish edition of Newsweek: https://www.newsweek.pl/biznes/twarza-polskiego-biznesu-internetowego-jest-od-lat-wlasnie-debiutowal-na-gieldzie/5p031p4 Mlepicki (talk) 12:56, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Weak keep. It is generally helpful for the readers to have articles on publicly listed companies, and while WP:ITSUSFUL is not enough, souces cited by the author above seem solid (ex. Gazeta Wyborcza is a major Polish newspaper). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Weak Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. Normally for listed companies we can locate detailed analyst reviews (which do more than report on stock price listings and forecasts and which analyse their business) which are a gold standard for notability but I cannot find anything for this company. The references posted by Mlepicki fails ORGIND as they rely entirely on information provided by the company and interviews with their execs with no "Independent Content" and fails CORPDEPTH and ORGIND. HighKing⁺⁺ 11:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Portugal[edit]

Grupo Desportivo de Basquete de Leça

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No refs on the page for many years, only mentions seen as refs, nothing found on pt.wiki JMWt (talk) 10:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment Also goes by the shorter name GDB LECA. Seems to be currently playing in the third tier according to their Eurobasket.com profile but did play in the second tier for a few seasons. The profile only has info back to 2012 but the club was founded in 1972. A quick Google search turns up some match reports but I didn't dig around for long. Not familiar enough about Portugues media to know where to look. Alvaldi (talk) 10:59, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Delete. There's currently zero sources in the article, and a Google news search finds two sources, one of which is arguably passing. I dont see how that meets WP:GNG. Bearian (talk) 20:57, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Ana Mesquita (artist)

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This promotionally-toned article is on an artist who does not meet WP criteria for WP:NARTIST nor WP:GNG. All of the sources in the article are primary sources, from galleries of events she is directly connected to, press releases/announcements, or are about other people and mention her in passing. A WP:BEFORE reveals social media and more primary sources. She has collaborated with notable people, but that is not inherited through association. Perhaps it is WP:TOOSOON for this artist. Netherzone (talk) 22:04, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi Netherzone,

I was the writer for this page but to be honest it is my first full page writing - I have double checked the references and I can vouch for the artist's continuing relevance in Portugal (e.g. she's presently commissioned for art on Portuguese national cultural TV channel - RTP2) and preparing an exhibition in Cascais.

I've checked that you've written very many well approved pages, so I hope to learn something from you - I will take the time to study your structuring, and change Ana Mesquita's page accordingly - the learning process to produce a good page is steep in the sense that the best-practices are sometimes unclear. I can tell you that once I noticed the page had been marked for being promotional toned I changed the text accordingly but did not see any change in status.

Thanks to you guys I'll continue on.

Thank you Port norw (talk) 23:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Port norw, thank you for your message. I've worked on a lot of articles on women artists and Indigenous artists over the years, so I'm familiar with the criteria for notability for visual artists. Please try to find sources that are fully independent, meaning that there is no connection to the artist whatsoever (not a gallery where she showed, or a place she worked, or a project she was involved with, or an interview or press release) - things others have written about her who are not connected to her. WP needs reliable secondary sources to establish notability And these should be in depth, significant coverage, not a name-check mention, or a few sentences...for more info see WP:SIGCOV; and should be in what WP considers reliable sources - see WP:RS for more info. Blogs, advertorials, or native advertising are not reliable. Sources that are mainly about other people (like some of the famous people that she has shown with) but only mention her briefly or not at all, don't really count, because notability is not inherited from others she associates with. If those sources exist, that could help her pass GNG. As far as passing NARTIST, see if she is in any notable museum collections, and if there are several notable museums or national galleries as that would be a pass for NARTIST. Also note that future planned events don't really count, those events must have already occurred and be covered in independent secondary sources (not the commissioning or exhibiting organization). Hope that helps clarify! My sense is it is simply WP:TOOSOON and in a few years there will be enough independent significant coverage in reliable sources for an article on this artist. Netherzone (talk) 16:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for your kind answer - I will follow your suggestions and will change things accordingly. I will have time to start this later tonight, so I hope to have substantive changes soon. When so, I will reach out again.

By the way, I went through your work and picked some to read (a bit randomly, subjects that I felt could - based on name - be aligned to the needs of my article and I loved your work. Port norw (talk) 19:19, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

comment, I am not familiar with the criteria foir inclusion of this kind of pages. But I note that there are several references which are not primary sources contrary to the nomination. They are not much of references anyway, except for one: rr.sapo.pt Rádio Renascença (a radio interview in one of the main radio stations on Portugal), the other two are dn.pt Diário de Notícias (but it is a dead link...), and publico.pt Público (not mentioned in the article) - Nabla (talk) 00:05, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello Nabla, interviews are primary sources and non-independent. Diario is unverifiable, and I don't see a link for Público for verification. Netherzone (talk) 00:12, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Thank you @Seraphimblade and @Netherzone.

I have been slowly but surely improving the page text and its references, and I feel I have brought it to a point that might - hopefully - grant your review of at least two of the previous status. Given I am a novice, I am not sure of the protocol to deal with them and prefer to err on the safe side by not touching them myself, although I saw somewhere that one might be allowed to.

It might be that we have hit an interesting issue: my thinking for building an English page for a Portuguese visual artist and for a Norwegian Historian, is grounded on the belief that English is the "national language" of the larger internet. I am aware that both Norwegian and Portuguese have their own wikipedia areas, seemingly with their own sets of granular standards (I've seen pages in both languages that would probably not pass an acid test in an English wikipedia).

When building a set of references - on those subjects - one is quickly drawn into a curious observation: most if not all references are in the subject's language, which will create a barrier for people who - like you - have the kindness to part with time and brainpower to evaluate the page.

On the other hand, known reference engines seem to give back much more detailed, richer and validated results. In this particular case of Ana Mesquita, one of the reference sites (MAAT museum, in Lisbon), where the biggest collaborative work was first presented, is known to have a poor museologic approach to artist's references and CV's on their website (it is better in loco, but there you go...). Which means that the best and most interesting reference to this work (here) is ... notably... terse.

So, in a perfect worid, one or both of you guys (or anyone else kind enough) would guide me a bit on the former issue and think a bit about the latter - all in all, the fact that English is the "offical language of global culturally relevant internet" while also being the official language of two of the most culturally relevant countries of the 20th and 21st centuries should align benignly... with your help?

Thank you! Port norw (talk) 09:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Port norw, Non-English sources are fine, as long as they can be verified. I'm familiar with the MAAT museum in Lisbon, and I see from the press release you added that she showed there with Gil and Couto, but am not finding that she is in their permanent collection. Please link here the three very best independent reviews of her work. Independent means written by a completely unconnected, non-affiliated source (rather than a sponsoring organization, or a gallery who sells or exhibits her work), and not a press release or a show announcement or her own website. WP needs secondary sources, like reviews on her in a newspaper or magazine article, or a chapter in a book, that are significant coverage in a WP:RS - more than a mention or a few sentences. If you can find three solid, in-depth, independent reviews, she'd pass WP:GNG or 2 or 3 notable museum or national gallery permanent collections, she'd pass WP:NARTIST in English Wikipedia. (Other things that contribute to notability on en-Wiki but those are the two that are usually most easily found in online searches). These should not be things scheduled for the future. Note that each language WP has different standards and criteria for inclusion. So she might qualify for an article in Portuguese Wikipedia. Also I noticed some of the sources are "dead links" check to see if you can update any of the URLs for sources that come up "page not found". Netherzone (talk) 14:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Medinfar

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No references used here, I could only find press releases online. TLA (talk) 02:58, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment. There are definitely some sources out there, but maybe not enough t support an article. Here's an interview with the CEO and a dissertation about processes at the company. Also plenty of mentions and routine coverage (mostly in Portuguese). Eluchil404 (talk) 01:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. Appears to fail WP:GNG. Uhooep (talk) 00:24, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete gets routine coverage as a government representative but nothing indepth to meet WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 01:02, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

KEEP. I have added a para, which I hope establishes some level of notability. Roundtheworld (talk) 11:59, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

KEEP. I agree with @Roundtheworld this diplomat is quite well know, the article should remain open. Diogo Costa (talk) 12:02, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Being "quite well known" is not a notability criterion. LibStar (talk) 12:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Romania[edit]

Târnăveni gas field

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I brought this to AFD because I proposed this for deletion due to how easy it is to demonstrate this subject has no significant coverage. Which is to say, no reliable sources say this natural feature is important. WP:Geoland confers no special status for natural features and they need to meet WP:N to be stand alone subjects. An editor, added some sources that are not significant coverage of the topic and in some cases don't cover the subject at all. In an effort to make the article longer the editor added other subjects that now occupy more space in the article than the original subject. This was because there are almost no sources about the gas field available. The editor then removed the prod tag. None of the current sources on the article, nor any that I can find say this gas field stands out from the rest as particularly important. And, there are no reliable sources that are written specifically about this subject. James.folsom (talk) 19:57, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep As I indicated in my summary when I removed the delete template after working on improving this article and saving it from the chopping block, the Târnăveni gas field is a historically significant gas field, which has supplied natural gas to the oldest and largest chemical factory in Romania (the Târnăveni Nitrogen Plant). This is attested in several references that I added, including a CIA report from 1950 dedicated to the factory and the nearby Târnăveni gas field, which supplied gas through a pipeline for running the factory. As I also mentioned in the article, this gas was used to produce for the first time in Romania (in 1922) hydrogen from water and gas. Despite the above (rather ungracious) claim, this is not in an effort to make the article longer, but rather, to add historically relevant context for the nascent natural gas industry in interwar Romania, which by the late 1930s had reached third place worldwide (after the US and the Soviet Union) in natural gas production, with the Târnăveni gas field playing a significant role in the process. Turgidson (talk) 21:40, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep - collectively the refs fully support the article. No one ref by itself gives significant coverage. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 22:29, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment How do you still not get this, have you not noticed that none of the sources are actually written about the subject of the gas field. Show me which one specifically says this gas field is an important subject. And, wrong individual sources are what confer significant coverage. They do this by being articles written specifically about the gas field without merely mentioning it in passing. OR they are sources that say something like "this is the greatest most important gas field in ...." You may have noticed none of the sources say this. The name of this gas field never occurs in the title of any reliable source. James.folsom (talk) 23:22, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment the nearby chemical operations are more historical and have better sourcing. @Turgidson, why not rename and expand this article to cover them? You've dug so deep into history here it seems a shame to waste the other stuff you turned up. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 22:32, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I agree, the chemical factory deserves an article by itself. It has a pretty fascinating history, starting with production of chemical munitions in WWI (for the Central Powers), and pioneering the development of the Petrochemical industry in Romania in the interwar, its role in the war effort in WWII, its further expansion in the communist era, only to be closed a few years ago. But I spent too much time already trying to expand and source these articles on the Romanian gas fields, with even the first and famous one being proposed for deletion, or arguably the top two ones (here and here) being pursued for deletion, while another one, the Zau de Câmpie gas field article, with 20 references by now, is being relentlessly criticized and eyed for the chopping block. So yes, I may create an article of that sort at some point when I get some free time, but not under these conditions, which are not at all conducive to positive development of Wikipedia content. Turgidson (talk) 23:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The cherry on the top being this deletion prod, regarding the onshore gas field with the largest proven reserves in Romania, dubbed by the then-PM as "the most important discovery" since the fall of communism, etc, which was characterized (before my work to seriously research the topic, and expand and improve the article) as "Not sustained coverage, non notable per WP:N" by someone who claims expertise in finding references to articles in this topic, deciding what's notable and what is not, what gets significant coverage and what does not, all sprinkled with snide comments like those here and here. All done with some artificial 1-week deadlines, which first were easy to miss, since I only very rarely edited articles on gas fields before, leading to some being completely gone before I could even look at them, especially with mass prods, ADFs, and deletions going on within dozens of articles at a time. Hardly the way to go, in my opinion. Turgidson (talk) 05:20, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

So I missed one, big deal. It takes more than one anyway. The goal is to discuss the merits of this article. James.folsom (talk) 16:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment I was going to let that personal attack go, but realized I should probably explain for the benefit of participants in the AFD. When I start a WP:before on these stubs, I check the given references for significance and remove any dead ones. If none of those references are significant coverage, I also tag the article so that others can review it. I'm not always perfect on getting it tagged, but I try because it's important to alert others about it. Then I do a WP:before myself, if I find anything remotely significant I move on and leave the tag so that others know to evaluate it. If its extremely obvious that there is no significant coverage I wikipedia boldly propose it for deletion. It's not true that this process doesn't have oversight because the tags are publicized and others can double check me. Turgidson has been removing the sig coverage tags inappropriately because he doesn't understand what significant coverage is. Because of this when I was wrapping up on the Romanian ones I couldn't always tell which were left to be checked. I checked all those again, and where the first time I checked that particular one I had skipped proposing deletion because of that source, the second time I didn't see it.James.folsom (talk) 18:53, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment So asserting that I have no idea what Wikipedia policies and guidelines on sourcing are (after 52K edits over 17 years of wiki editing), or suggesting I better try shopping a Romania-related article missing from ro.wiki to see how it fares there (!) is not a personal attack, but pointing that out is? Or maybe pointing out this relentless drive for mass deletions of Romanian gas fields articles, without affording me (or perhaps also other editors who may want to join in) a decent amount of time to assess the situation and see whether they can be expanded and properly sourced is a "personal attack"? Or perhaps pointing out the categorical claims in those many prods that there is no recent mention of the topic (that was in the first batch of prods), only to switch later to there is no significant mention, or no notability, or no mention with subject in the title, etc, which most times turned out to be not the case, after a bit of research on my part? Maybe if you tried once (only once!) to improve one of these articles, instead of constantly criticizing them, you'll get a better appreciation of the work involved in creating such content, and become more open-minded about what "significant coverage" means in this context, where history, economy, geography, geology, technology, politics, etc mix in not always the most straightforward way. Of course, a currently highly productive gas field or oil field opened in the last decade or two will have much more coverage than, say, those Transylvanian gas fields that opened before WWI and had their glory days in the 1930s or the 1950s (when there was no internet, and written mentions from those times are almost always not readily available, at least not through a banal Google search), though almost all those gas fields are still productive to this day. Speaking of wiki guidelines, maybe WP:RECENTISM would be relevant in better assessing the situation. Turgidson (talk) 21:09, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment AB's suggestion is acceptable to me.James.folsom (talk) 23:30, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Zau de Câmpie gas field

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I searched for any news, books or other info to establish the notability of this gas field. Finding none, I proposed it for deletion. This was objected to and claims of adding important info were made. I redirected it to a relevant table, and it was undone. Again with claims of adding important information. I then tagged it for lacking significant coverage, that tag was removed no reason given. The information in the article now is derived from 6 sources. Here's a summary of those: In the first reference it is mentioned once in passing and is not the subject of the paragraph in which it is mentioned. In the second reference, it's mentioned twice in passing and is not the subject of the article. In the third reference it is mentioned once in passing, not as the subject. I can't translate the fourth reference but it is clearly from 1922 and is presented in the article as a reliable source for data in 2009 and 2010. The fifth reference is just a data sheet from a financial report or something. The sixth reference mentions it in passing, but it is not the subject of the source. None of these sources nor any of the info in the WP article say anything at all about this field being important in any way. So they don't establish significance, Wikipedia:Credible_claim_of_significance, and gas fields are not covered very well by any policy. WP:GEO wants clear evidence of importance. I assert that it is a non notable run of the mill gas field with outdated info and should be deleted not redirected. Thus I submit it to AFD. James.folsom (talk) 20:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep. The article pertains to one of the oldest gas fields in Europe (discovered in 1914, continuously exploited since 1920), with a well-documented history, both in the academic press (e.g., Annals of the University of Oradea, Romanian Review of Regional Studies), news organizations articles (e.g., RFE/RL, MSNews), and various government and industry press releases, for a total of 10 references so far. This is not a "run of the mill" gas field; rather, it is one of the very few oil fields in Europe more than 100 years old (that's why it has references going back to 1922) and still in operation, at the center of an area that produces some 3/4 of Romania's natural gas output (itself 3rd in Europe after Holland and UK). The importance of the field to the economy of Romania is highlighted in a (restricted) CIA report from 1948 (made public in 2011), which mentions it specifically, devoting a whole paragraph to the Zau de Câmpie gas field. Furthermore, it is not at all the case that the information contained in the article is "outdated": there are several references from 2018–2022, some of them referring to current output, means of gas extraction or compression (62 drilling rigs in operation, new compressor), and fairly current (2017) estimates of reserves and prospects for further production extended up to 2029. Turgidson (talk) 16:28, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Apologies I realized I misspoke, by omitting details around my outdated comment. So I will explain. The article contains information about who operates it and what it's annual output are, and things like what compressor it uses, how many wells it currently has. These sorts of details wouldn't be found in article about a notable subject because there would be better things to talk about in the article, and these things change from one year to the next so they would be out of date unless someone is constantly updating that. There are literally hundred of other articles about gas fields, and even more about oil fields, that are just like this. Who is going to keep all these trivial numbers updated annually? Furthermore the people who would want this info is not going to come to Wikipedia for. It's out place, but the problem is if you get rid of it there is no article.

- Comment It's true there are now ~~ten~~ 11 references, and some of them actually mention this place. None of them state this is an important gas field. At least one of the sources points out that being and old gas field is a bad thing. None of the provided references are significant coverage. I've thoroughly looked and I know there isn't any. Here's a breakdown of the claimed important coverage:
  - The 11th reference is just a trade journal reporting on agreements being renewed and only mentions this field in passing.
  - The 10th is just basic statistics probably from a financial report.
  - The ninth reference is dated 1922, and is used as a source for info from 2009-2010. I can't translate it.
  - The eighth reference mentions this gas field in passing as part of a larger important area. But doesn't state it is of any special value.
  - The seventh, is the cia report, It's the only source in this batch that even uses the word 'Important'. But it's not referring to this gas field, but a well in the field. The report is merely summarizing the gas resources in Romania and doesn't single this one out as particularly important.
  - The fifth just talks about drilling somewhere, it was a routine church announcement.
  - The Sixth, doesn't mention this gas field, and is an article that states that gas resources in Romania are now headed toward depletion due to the long period of exploitation.
  - The fourth, lists it as a gas field but has nothing else to say.
  - The third article doesn't mention it.
  - The second article just states what gas compressor it uses.
  - The first reference mentions it in passing once, in a discussion about the first gas pipline.
- There's nothing here to establish this as a stand alone article.

Comment It's probably worth considering that the Romanian language Wikipedia has this article https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zau_de_C%C3%A2mpie,_Mure%C8%99, but it's about the village in the area the gas field is named for. It also has this article about the larger region containing the gas field https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comuna_Zau_de_C%C3%A2mpie,_Mure%C8%99. Neither of these mention the gas field. There is also this article https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gazele_naturale_%C3%AEn_Rom%C3%A2nia on natural gas in Romania. That article mentions several important gas fields in Romania. This one is not on that list. Furthermore, despite the stated importance of those gas fields there are no articles about them to be found on the Romanian Wikipedia. So you can rely on the fact that even Romanians don't care about this one. And, they clearly don't want articles about gas fields. If this is such great gas field, how come nobody on the Romanian Wikipedia thought to write about it? Maybe I should change my vote to "move it to the Romanian Wikipedia"? Since they need an article on this very important gas field. Then we'll see how fast they delete it.James.folsom (talk) 20:43, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
disagree with nomination as the article has a clear claim of importance. Probably any gas field is important, but this one more so since it has been going over 100 years. I will not have comment on notability. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:05, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep per the provided sources, passes WP:GNG, and i'd say "one of the oldest gas fields in Europe" is a credible claim of significance. Wheather sources are from last week or 200 years old dosen't really matter. Sources don't explicitly have to highlight the subject as being especially "important" to establish notability.
"article contains information about who operates it and what it's annual output are, what compressor it uses, how many wells it currently has. These sorts of details wouldn't be found in article about a notable subject because there would be better things to talk about in the article." Those would be first things to talk about in an article about oil/gas fields?
Wheather articles about the topic exist or dosen't exist in other projects dosen't matter for notability in the English WP. --TheImaCow (talk)
The first red flag was that the article spent more words on a general history of gas production in Romania as a whole and didn't even get to the specific subject until over halfway through the body. The second red flag comes from checking out the sources. It turns out that sources that talk about the "CENTRU region" or the Transylvanian Basin gas production as a whole, and that include this subject as one item in a list at one point in the source, have had all of the other locations stripped out. For examples:
- The Tofan source, supporting the introduction, actually says "Transilvaniei Plain" and this subject is in a list "Zau de Câmpie, Șincai and Delenii" and not specifically singled out.
- The Crețu source, supporting where the article body actually gets around to this subject, talks about the "CENTRU region" and on the page supporting the content this subject is merely one in a list "Nades, Zaul de Campie, Bogata, Saros, Singiorgiu de Campie, Seleus, ZăuŞăulia, Mădăraş, Sărmăşel, Cetatea de Balta, Tauni, Porumbenii Mari, Avramesti, Mugeni, etc." Yes, etc. even!
- The MS News source doesn't even narrow down to this subject in its list. "Păingeni, Saușa, Zau de Câmpie – Saulia și, Săbed" it says. So it's not Zau de Câmpie but Zau de Câmpie–Saulia.
- It turns out that the Romanian government's Annex A (of what document, the source citation doesn't say) says Zau de Câmpie–Saulia too. It's even in the title in the citation. So this article has even narrowed the few sources that seem on-point to a narrower subject. And it's not apparent, since this is Annex A in its own PDF file in the uploads section of a Wordpress site, who the author of Annex A is.
It's not that this is run-of-the-mill. Everything is run-of-the-mill and dull to somebody. It's that the world's knowledge of the entire Transylvanian Basin's gas production has been lopsidedly presented under the subject of just one of the things that most of the sources (in the article, and the ones that I could find after some looking around for geological reports and the like) just include in laundry lists of places where gas wells are, and don't directly discuss in depth as a specific standalone topic. Uncle G (talk) 05:31, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I concede the run of the mill, thing, thanks for providing another take on why this needs to go away. Much better than my explanation. James.folsom (talk) 22:21, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The article now mentions a PhD thesis from 1929 (by geologist Augustin Vancea [ro], a future corresponding member of the Romanian Academy), which specifically mentions in the title "with a special description of the natural gas dome from Zaul de Câmpie (Moinești)", Moinești being an alternate name for the village, briefly adopted after 1926, but then abandoned. The work is quoted in a 2010 PhD thesis from Babeș-Bolyai University by Liana Spulber, where additional context can be found. Finally, as briefly mentioned in a previous comment of mine, the Zau de Câmpie gas field is specifically mentioned as being important to the Romanian economy, in a full, standalone paragraph from a 1948 CIA report, itself based on an August 15, 1948 article in the official PCR publication, Scînteia (I tried to dig out the original Scînteia piece, but it's behind a paywall). Turgidson (talk) 01:38, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
you need to actually read the policies on significant coverage, because you don't seem to understand that these sources are not significant coverage. James.folsom (talk) 14:38, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment Improvments were made to the article since AFD started. I've reviewed them and have new analysis. The article is no longer about the gas field. In order to expand the article without having significant coverage, the editor has incorporated a bunch material about Romanian gas production and gas production around the world. Only ~half of the sources, and text in this article is actually about the gas field. This makes the article longer, but not better. In checking all the sources, none of them are written about this gas field, many mention it in lists, tables and in passing. But, they are all written about another subject. None of those passing mentions single out this gas field as special. WP:Sigcov/Wikipedia:Credible_claim_of_significance is one of the plainest policies that WP has, and according to that, even this article is no longer significant coverage of the topic. Most every mention of the name of this gas field in this wiki article are passing mentions. I will leave you with examples. Here is an example of a notable gas field, Darvaza_gas_crater. Those who want to see what significant coverage of a gas field looks like may try this: https://www.offshore-mag.com/field-development/article/16766862/perla-gas-field-offshore-venezuela-enters-production. Note that the name of the field is in the title of the source. Now as an exercise try finding the name of this field in the title of anything.James.folsom (talk) 17:30, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

When you say that no source mentions the subject of the article in the title, do you mean that in a literal sense (as in the mathematical concept of Empty set), or in some kind of figurative sense, or perhaps statistical sense? As clearly mentioned in the article (and reiterated in previous comments on this page), there was a whole thesis written by a geologist (later academician), whose title contains the words "with a special description of the natural gas dome from Zaul de Câmpie" (see also GoogleScholar and click on Cite). Turgidson (talk) 14:50, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment I realized I would be amenable to moving this to a title more befitting this article, now that it is rewritten about another topic. Maybe "history of Transylvania natural gas" or some such.James.folsom (talk) 18:25, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Good idea. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 21:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete: fails GNG. Agree with James.folsom eval. Existence does not mean notability. // Timothy :: talk 19:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment The information that was added here should have been added to other articles instead of here. The proper thing now might be to merge it to places it belongs, for example Transylvanian_Plateau.James.folsom (talk) 19:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Others

Bianca gas field (via WP:PROD)
Brădești gas field (via WP:PROD)
Clara gas field (via WP:PROD)
Daia gas field (via WP:PROD)
Filitelnic gas field (via WP:PROD)
Frasin-Gura Humorului gas field (via WP:PROD)
Ghindăoani gas field (via WP:PROD)
Mănești-Vlădeni gas field (via WP:PROD)
Maria gas field (via WP:PROD)
Miorița gas field (via WP:PROD)
Muridava gas field (via WP:PROD)
Nadia gas field (via WP:PROD)
Noul Săsesc gas field (via WP:PROD)
Plenița gas field (via WP:PROD)
Poduri gas field (via WP:PROD)
Rodbav gas field (via WP:PROD)
Roman-Secuieni gas field (via WP:PROD)
Șamșud gas field (via WP:PROD)
Sângeorgiu de Pădure gas field (via WP:PROD)
Șaroș gas field (via WP:PROD)
Sighișoara gas field (via WP:PROD)
Șincai gas field (via WP:PROD)
South Cobălcescu gas field (via WP:PROD)
Târnăveni gas field (via WP:PROD)
Teleac gas field (via WP:PROD)
Torcești gas field (via WP:PROD)

Russia[edit]

Triton-1

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The article structure does not comply with MOS, it has no source, notability is questioned, or it could be Hoax. Vitaium (talk) 11:32, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Jurijs Baranovs

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Yakov Kazyansky

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Last AfD was a weak keep with low participation in 2008, when standards were lower. I couldn't establish that he meets WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG, or a good WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 09:26, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Weak keep. A google search for his name in Russian gives several hits. At least 3 of these are about his role in organising the first ever performance in the USSR of Jesus Christ Superstar, which would probably be worth adding to the article, if only as a curiosity:

Local/regional coverage: Yarkipedia: КАЗЬЯНСКИЙ Яков Лазаревич (NB: article is signed by author, it's not a wiki); Severni Krai (regional newspaper): Антиреалист Казьянский и его религия, same article scanned from the paper version of the newspaper [43] (NB: author of this piece is presumably the author of the article for the local encyclopedia); Yaroslavl region section of the Union of Artists of Russia (short bio on account of one of his performances): Концерт №2 цикла "Музыкальные среды" (NB: possibly falls under promotional, but I think it sort of helps with notability); Rybinski dnevnik (local news portal): В Ярославле отметили 30-летие российской премьеры рок-оперы «Иисус Христос — суперзвезда»; Yaroslavl edition of Komsomolskaia Pravda: В России рок-оперу «Иисус Христос Суперзвезда» впервые увидели в Рыбинске

National coverage: Article/interview published by LIFE (NB: unrelated to Life (magazine)) (Russian Как "Иисуса Христа — суперзвезду" ставили в Рыбинске в 1989 году

Participation in international-ish events: Prostokvashino festival (North Carolina) [44] (NB: event seems to cater to Russian-speaking diaspora groups in the US)

This list is non-exhaustive but I think it might be enough to establish notability and probably allows for the writing of a decent enough article (it probably needs updating, too - he seems to have recently moved to the US). Ostalgia (talk) 12:20, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Diagnostics of Karma

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No evidence of notability added since the first nomination for this pseudoscientific nonsense. In the previous keepers' nom says "There are many independent and authoritative sources"; well I found no WP:RS that fit enwiki requirements. - Altenmann >talk 16:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Ilyas Vasipov

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Articles for deletion/Ilyas Vasipov

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Does not meet WP:JOURNALIST--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 23:21, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep. Meets WP:GNG as a person "influenced a whole generation of St. Petersburg journalists" and the publisher of an iconic newspaper. Evilfreethinker (talk) 23:38, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Michael Baron

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Does not meet WP:GNG, all available coverage is work written by Baron or interviews of Baron, not independent coverage about Baron. The initial editor has disavowed a conflict of interest on their talk page but has not addressed the fact that they uploaded a close-range photograph of the subject to Commons in 2021. N.b., this subject appears entirely unrelated to prior articles created at the title Michael Baron. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 19:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Thank you very much for highlighting the photo issue. I was translating the profile from Vietnamese + adding more recent info i could find and when googling for suitable photos (I later added the photo for the vietnamese wiki profile as well) I did not pay attention whether it was close-ranged or not just made sure it was for the right person. I will try to find a better photo as well as check for more coverage of Baron's work available in English Emma knows it well (talk) 22:46, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've added link to his ORCID profile that includes over 200 research/academic works Emma knows it well (talk) 01:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/probability-and-statistics/9781439875919/

This is a Michael Baron book with another one being less Data Science Focused (using more ancient analytics techniques I believe :):

https://www.amazon.com.au/Integration-Marketing-Communications-Historical-Development/dp/383832272X

He was also representing Australia in The Data Science Foundation at some point apparently. DataScientist1986 (talk) 14:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you DS,

I've googled DS Foundation and Found it. I will add to his profile tomorrow. Emma knows it well (talk) 15:31, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Just publishing stuff counts for nothing. For notability the stuff has to be cited by others, which is not the case here. The ORCID profile just contains vapid puffery. Xxanthippe (talk) 01:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC).Reply[reply]

I believe I've seen artcile or presentation referring to him as the creator or one of the creators of the Square Zero predictive analytics Model - It has been a while though since I looked into Predictive Analytics so I will probably need to google it up again. But his name is definitely familiar to some of those who are engaged in Data Analytics. DataScientist1986 (talk) 04:09, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Fine, just produce some RS. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:44, 31 January 2024 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Delete. Inadequate RS as yet. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:38, 29 January 2024 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Sister Pelagia

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Nothing in the article suggests this character is notable, my BEFORE finds little of use. No Russian interwiki. The article is unreferenced (no footnotes). Maybe it could be rewritten into an article about a series (Sister Pleagia series) based on reviews or analysis of the series (this might be useful: [45]); sources are more likely to exist in Russian than English. If the article is not improved, however, due to failures of WP:V, WP:GNG and possible WP:OR, per WP:ATD-R I suggest this is redirected to the article about the author. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:40, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep: This article already is about the series; all three books redirect to this page. I easily found reviews for all three books. "A nun with a nose for adventure" (Los Angeles Times, Jan 2007), "Nun has sleuth skills, feminist views" (Philadelphia Inquirer, May 2008), "Eye-popping stuff" (The Independent, Nov 2009). Russian language skills are not necessary. Toughpigs (talk) 01:57, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Toughpigs If the books are notable, they merit stand-alone articles, sure, but here we discuss the fictional character. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
All of the books pages redirect to this page. This is the series page. It would be silly to delete the series page and then create stand-alone pages for each book. Toughpigs (talk) 03:06, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep These are really rather well-known books, translated into several languages, and doubtless with many reviews. I simply don't believe that a properly-done "BEFORE finds little of use" (did you make the same typo you do above?). If you think the article should be renamed Sister Pelagia series, do a RM. At the very least a merger to the author should be proposed. No valid deletion rationale given, just the usual chaff-storm of non-relevant policy shortcuts. Johnbod (talk) 03:47, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kirill Chereshko

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User:94.158.161.177 attempted to nominate this article for deletion by placing the following comment on the article's talk page: "Possible violation of Notability principles and Self-promotion rules". I am completing this nomination on their behalf but will remain neutral myself for the time being. Metropolitan90 (talk) 21:56, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Alexey Vladimirovich Kovalkov

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An advert of a Russian dietarian. Tagged since 2016. All references are advertising. - Altenmann >talk 01:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete, reads like paid advertising, and created by a single-use account – it most likely is. Ostalgia (talk) 10:44, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete, couldn't find sources with significant coverage. PaulT2022 (talk) 20:02, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

International Client's day

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Spam. Previously deleted. Fails WP:N, WP:NCORP. Cabrils (talk) 00:42, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete as pure promotional spam. Renata•3 02:55, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment I don’t see how this is spam exactly, since it doesn’t seem to be promoting a specific business, but rather a concept that a bunch of businesses are trying to turn into a thing. If it actually is a thing in Lithuania, it’s weird that it is not on Lithuanian or Russian Wikipedia. the article implies that it failed to be officially approved by the government. I would be inclined to delete it, but I can’t evaluate the Russian language references. Llajwa (talk) 16:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Battle of Lankaran

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Fails GNG, Unneeded DUP/CFORK of Lankaran operation#Overthrow of Bolshevik power.

There was certainly fighting in the area and the Russian civil war impacted all of Azerbaijan, including Lankaran, but I cannot find anything that is called the Battle of Lankaran.

Author also created Lankaran operation, I think this is an unneeded CFORK of this article, as it stands the main section of the article is a duplicate of Lankaran operation#Overthrow of Bolshevik power with the background and conclusion points covered in other areas of the article.

Article is based on a single source,

Süleymanov, Mehman (1998). Azərbacan Ordusu (1918–1920). Baku: hərbi Nəşriyyatı.

I can find no information on the publisher other than it is the ""Military Publishing House" of the Ministry of Defense and is described as "one of the ideological branches"."[46]. Based on this I think this fails WP:IS.

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Redirect to Lankaran Operation per nom. Nominator makes strong case. Llajwa (talk) 23:19, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Others

Draft[edit]

Serbia[edit]

Pero Defformero

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I may be missing something due to not reading Serbian, but I couldn't establish that they meet WP:NBAND or WP:GNG, or that there is a good WP:ATD. This has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve it. Boleyn (talk) 05:45, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Predrag Koluvija

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Subject does not appear to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines, specifically WP:PERPETRATOR. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete, as nom. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Delete per WP:BLP1E. Batmanthe8th (talk) 19:14, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: the individual in question seems non-notable by himself, but the case seems to have received significant coverage: [47], [48], [49], [50], among others. Would it not be an option to rename the article to Predrag Koluvija case or something along those lines and expand a bit on the criminal case itself, while retaining a brief subsection with Koluvija's basic biographical details? Ostalgia (talk) 11:01, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Eventify. The case itself seems to have quite a bit of significant coverage (even English language coverage of subsidiary cases exists). As WP:1E notes, When an individual is significant for their role in a single event,... [t]he general rule is to cover the event, not the person. The event is clearly notable—it's a major national case in Serbia—and I think some of this text could be used to get our article on that case started. This might be best done by a draft, or alternatively by bold editing in the mainspace, but I don't think deletion is the option here.— Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 01:54, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep, just shift focus onto event. PARAKANYAA (talk) 12:54, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Title suggestion: maybe something like 2019 Serbian drug farm case? PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Others

Slovakia[edit]

Marína Georgievová

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I couldn't establish that it meets WP:NMODEL or WP:GNG. Possible WP:ATD is merge/redirect or just redirect to Miss Word 2010, but it could unbalance that article. Boleyn (talk) 19:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Weak keep Is there on policy on national contestants in these big international pageants? Virtually every one has their own page; many of them are no more or less notable than this one. I guess competing at that level is somewhat notable... Llajwa (talk) 21:55, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Comment. The guideline is found at WP:NBEAUTY. Many are deleted too. Geschichte (talk) 08:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Slovenia[edit]

Golica TV

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The one reference is routine coverage / likely based on a press release. A number of unsubstantiated claims, failing WP:GNG. TLA (talk) 12:45, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Keep. Golica TV has received considerable national attention. It was awarded the Viktor award as the best local/cable station in 2010,[51][52] and it was also involved in a fraud widely reported by Slovenian media a few years ago.[53][54] It is the only Slovenian TV station with a full-day folk music programme.[55] --TadejM ^{my talk} 13:12, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Melilla Corridor

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This air corridor isn't notable enough for a standalone article. There is nothing particular or specially notable about this air corridor. Instructions regarding this air corridor (speed limitation, class of airspace, etc.) are not information that should be on Wikipedia as well. Thank you. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 15:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Pyreneism

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keep. The subject is valid: Mountaineering in Pyrenees. The current title looks unusual, but reasonable. - Altenmann >talk 21:32, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Draftify - This article seems to be google-translated from the Spanish or Catalan original. The syntax is garbled and almost incomprehensible. But it does seem to be an article about the term and concept "Pyreneism" as used in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, rather than about mountaineering the Pyrenees generally - i.e. it's about the self-conscious culture and literary tradition around the practice rather than the practice generally. The sources seem good if slightly tending to WP:OR. BUT we can't have an article that is completely incoherent to read. The prose and syntax are a disaster. This really needs to be rewritten sentence by sentence in draft space before returning to the main space. Llajwa (talk) 20:18, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I would also support this. LegalSmeagolian (talk) 16:11, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Endorse the above Draftify Its not ready for main space, AfC can judge the other issues once the article is actually ready for publishing. // Timothy :: talk 18:16, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Draft: as suggested seems fine. Seems to be a claim to notability, based on the 100 yr history of the thing described here. Oaktree b (talk) 14:24, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Haizea (given name)

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PROD removed. This name fails WP:NNAME and WP:NOTDICT. Being in a top 10 list for one year does not establish notability. Few if any reliable sources found online. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 00:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep. It is referenced and notable as one of the most popular names in Spain. There also appear to be several people with the name referenced in various Wikipedia articles who might have articles that could be written about them. I continue to think people are far to quick to nominate articles for deletion instead of expanding and improving them. I don't agree with the rationale behind these deletion nominations. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 01:32, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep - Clearly a widespread and common name with notable examples. WilsonP NYC (talk) 02:54, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment However common it may be, it still fails WP:NNAME and has no WP:SIGCOV. Is someone wants to make articles about people with the name, please do so. Either way it could always be recreated or refunded if articles about people with the name are written in the future.

What is the point of deleting an article that has existed for years instead of expanding or improving it? I disagree with the standard on general principle, but there are also at least four people with this name mentioned in other articles and it remains an extremely popular name in Spain, which I would argue is its main claim to notability. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 05:45, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reply User:Bookworm857158367, The age of the article is irrelevant, and expansion is pointless if the subject isn't notable. I have not found any reliable sources that it could be expanded with. You think I don't check beforehand? I don't know what's with this assumption that everything can be expanded and left A-okay. Being mentioned in articles is not tantamount to notability, and the only person that looks like they could be notable at a glance is Barcenilla Garcia. I also wouldn't call it "extremely" popular. I know it is reasonably popular in Basque Country, but the problem lies in the sources. Like I said, it could have future WP:POTENTIAL and can always be refunded or recreated. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 00:03, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My opinion hasn’t changed, for the reasons given above. Continuing a circular argument probably would not be productive. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 05:59, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete - according to WP:NNAME, a name is notable if it has two or more links to Wikipedia articles of persons with that name. There is no article for anyone named Haizea on this Wikipedia. Plus, I'm not sure if the sources are reliable. One of them is just a name database website and the other doesn't seem to mention the name itself. --StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 21:51, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If I may, I would like to take this chance to agree and reiterate the third sentence of my nomination statement, as well as the fact that I cannot seem to find many, if any, reliable, in-depth sources online. Pretty much all databases with dubious reliability. A name in absence of notable people bearing it is still expected to meet WP:GNG, which, based on what I can find, simply does not. It becomes indiscriminate information at that point (WP:NOTDICT). AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 04:15, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete per NNAME. There isn't even one notable Haizea. There is a Dweezil, but (fortunately) no given name article. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:25, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Sweden[edit]

Kreuger family

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Unreferenced genealogy - Altenmann >talk 03:48, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Carolyn Shelby

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Very little indication that subject is notable. PepperBeast (talk) 01:14, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete. The only independent reliable secondary source is the BBC, and that's only a passing mention, which doesn't meet the notability criteria. Celia Homeford (talk) 10:10, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete: Fascinating tidbit, but not enough coverage of this individual. Even what's used is one BBC story and the rest are primary or non-RS. Oaktree b (talk) 16:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am not going to offer an opinion on whether to delete or not, but I think the Dagens Nyheter article should qualify as a reliable source (I've been told it is "The NY Times of Sweden", but that could be not entirely accurate). The article is a decent-length interview about how Ladonia will continue to function after the death of Lars Vilks.

I was surprised the original article was never nominated for deletion before, so I added (what I thought) was a better written article in tone/style and added some additional references. There are quite a few more interviews and articles where she is named only as the "Queen of Ladonia" or "Queen Carolyn", like podcast appearances, radio interviews, an interview on Al Jazeera (with Prince Michael of Sealand also on the panel), and a 15 minute segment on a German TV program called Galileo. There is also a chapter on Ladonia in a Swedish book called "Mikronationer" (and she is interviewed as well as on the cover of the book), and Lars Vilks' last book before his death (Nimis) talks about her role running Ladonia. I can dig up the links to the references, though I'd rather save the effort if the article is destined for deletion anyway. Kulib (talk) 00:38, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Dagens Nyheter is a strong candidate to be seen as the newspaper of record in Sweden. It qualifies. /Julle (talk) 22:12, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment - I found a Mapping micronations (Al Jazeera, 2014) interview source. There is also a 2023 WGN Radio 720 interview ("Her Majesty is the host and coordinator of the 2023 MicroCon."). The 2022 BBC source seems to be more than a passing mention because it includes biographical information with context. A redirect to Ladonia (micronation) where she is mentioned and pictured seems supported. Beccaynr (talk) 03:21, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep. "Drottningen av Ladonien: ’Vår plikt att röra oss framåt’" in Dagens Nyheter, which has been added since this was taken to AfD (and after the first couple of comments) ha longer coverage of Carolyn Shelby herself. "Utopidiplomati i ett låtsas-FN" in Ping (former magazine for sv:DIK, 20 November 2015, has slightly more than merely mentioning her in passing, but not at all the same level of information as the Dagens Nyheter article. I think the additions to the article since this discussion stared makes it keepable. /Julle (talk) 22:11, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Lorensberga

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A school for ages up to 13. Previously prod-nominated with the stated reasons being WP:MILL and failure of WP:GNG. Sure, it exists, but a level of detail beyond mentioning it in the article of the city seems excessive. Though the school has been involved in the political situation in the city, Ludvika, which is a haven for the far right. Geschichte (talk) 17:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete and redirect to the city Ludvika. We very seldom keep primary (elementary) school articles, and almost always redirect to the school district or city. This school fails WP:GNG as well as WP:NSCHOOL, and no evidence has been provided of Wikipedia:NRVE, "substantial verifiable evidence of coverage by reliable independent sources outside the organization's local area". — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 00:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Mikael Höglund

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There are no sources cited and from my searching that I did last night, I was not able to find enough sources for Höglund's bio to meet WP:GNG. However, I would encourage Swedish users (or anyone, really) to find sources as the article claims he has at least a shred of notability. ❤History Theorist❤ 21:37, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delete: all I can find are about a politician with the same name [56] who looks too young to be this person Oaktree b (talk) 22:15, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Comment. There seems to have been a couple of mid-sized articles about Höglund and Thunder in newspapers like Aftonbladet and Arbetet Nyheterna in February 1995, but I can't access them without going to a university with access to the newspaper database of the Royal Library of Sweden, only see short snippets. Is there anyone who could more easily see the contents? (Also found some shorter pieces and this article, but I'm not sure they contribute towards notability at all – I'd be more interested in the articles I can't access.) /Julle (talk) 18:13, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't know if Arbitet Nyheterna is referring to the musician or the politician of the same name as mentioned in Oaktree b's comment. It would seem a bit strange for the musician to be mentioned there unless he has really strong political views. From reading your comment more closely, it does seem that AN is talking about the musician. Unfortunately I'm an American user so it would be a pain for me to fly to Sweden and attempt to read the Swedish sources. I could see Aftonbladet carrying information about him, but I don't know how much weight tabloids carry in notability. I'll have to look that up. That said, that short article looks interesting, if only I could read Swedish. ❤History Theorist❤ 20:40, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have made reasonably sure they refer to the right Höglund before posting, yes. (: Arbetet was a normal newspaper – most Swedish newspapers have some sort of political affiliation, but that doesn't mean they have a political focus. Aftonbladet is the most read newspaper in Sweden. Whether it's a good source might depend on the context; in an article like this, I wouldn't hesitate to use it, and I definitely think it would help point towards notability. Assuming the articles are relevant, which I can't judge without reading them – I mentioned it hoping someone who with easier access the archive would have a chance to glance at them. /Julle (talk) 21:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Merge to Thunder. Notability is not inherited - his notability is entirely in context of the band. Llajwa (talk) 17:56, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm not the admin who makes the final call in AfD discussions, but I would not oppose a merge. ❤History Theorist❤ 18:02, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Redirect to Thunder: BLP, Fails GNG and NBIO. No sources in article and BEFORE found nothing with WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS WP:RS addressing the subject directly and indepth. BLPs require strong sourcing. Nothing properly sourced for a merge. // Timothy :: talk 15:29, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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