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Category:Proposed railway stations scheduled to open in 2012

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge to Category:Proposed railway stations; anyone can place an article in Category:Railway stations opened in 2012 if that category applies. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:58, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category is time-sensitive and now outdated. All stations in category have opened and should be categorized as such. –Dream out loud (talk) 22:21, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
broader question - do we really need to sort these by year? it seems a bit crystal-ball-ish. --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 00:18, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know the history or anything about the stations in this category. I just came across it and noticed it was outdated so I brought its attention here. I don't like the idea of Category:Railway stations being constructed because this implies the stations are being constructed at the moment, when a station could be planned and it has yet to begin construction. –Dream out loud (talk) 21:15, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Computer pioneers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:35, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is problematic for many reasons - but the main one is POV. Computing and computer science continue to evolve, so the inventor of Twitter may well be a "Pioneer" in the 140-character message but I'm not sure if that was the intent of this category. As you click on various bios, they are often of people who did some work in the 50s/60s/70s, but I still fail to see how this is defining, and why *everyone* who worked during that era should thus not be awarded as a computing pioneer. I think one of its subcats, Internet pioneers, can be a bit better defined, as there was a period where the fundamental structures of the internet were being created, but computing started, well, way back in time, and things are obviously still progressing apace. I don't know what else to do with this category but delete it - otherwise it will continue to accumulate bios of people who see themselves as pioneers (and indeed, they may have been, in whatever particular sub-part of computing they were involved in). I realize there is a whole pioneers tree, I'm not ready to address that, but this one doesn't work. There is a List of pioneers in computer science which could be better sourced and populated, so I'd say we listify the key members of this cat and delete due to subjective criteria for inclusion. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 22:02, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
But what is the inclusion criteria, specifically? If we wanted something more neutral, we could have Category:Computer people of the 1940s-1960s for example, and anyone working on this issue in those days would be there. Or Category:Pre-1970s computer researchers, so we get Ada Lovelace etc.? Categories need somewhat objective inclusion criteria, and as of now it's a magnet for everyone who ever did anything new with computers, ever.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 20:05, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I went after this one as it was the biggest and most full of cruft, and seemed to be stretching the definition the most. Based on what we do here, I agree, we should probably reformulate the rest of the tree. --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 22:08, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:New York City Football Club

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The result of the discussion was: no action: the nominated category was moved to Category:New York City FC in the middle of the discussion. No consensus to delete it.. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:34, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There are only two entries here on the exact same topic, both of which were created today. It says they aren't even due to begin playing their game until 2015. Anything could happen before then. Not all teams or organisations are given their own category anyway. 86.40.104.50 (talk) 19:45, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Royal Preparatory School

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Royal College Colombo. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:32, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete -- A defunct school that has been augmented with Royal College Colombo in December 1977. All articles relevant to Royal Preparatory School are already listed in the Category Category:Royal College Colombo, including alumni. Cossde (talk) 17:50, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Harvard Centennial Medal recipients

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Harvard University alumni. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:31, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete -- a non-defining honor from a graduate school to its alumni. This award from the Harvard Grad School of Arts & Sciences was established in 1989 and awarded from 2-4 graduates each year (7 in first year). The awardees are a disparate lot of folks, many of whom have lots of other award-winner categories on their articles, like Leon Kass, Margaret Atwood, Elaine Pagels ... This is better maintained in the list in the article for the Harvard Centennial Medal which can include footnotes, dates, and other information .... Lquilter (talk) 10:41, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Members of the Nation of Gods and Earths

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Five percenters. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:30, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Members of the Nation of Gods and Earths to Category:Members of the Five-Percent Nation
Nominator's rationale: concise and in line with aticle title. We could also merge it with Category:Five percenters. Pass a Method talk 10:26, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Qing Dynasty History

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Qing Dynasty. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:22, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Qing Dynasty History to Category:History of the Qing Dynasty
Nominator's rationale: Rename. The current name format is non-standard. Most categories are "History of FOO". Should this be Category:History of the Qing Dynasty? or Category:History of China during the Qing Dynasty? Something else? Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:56, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Preachers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:28, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Re-created in 2011 after deletion at CFD 2007 Nov 3. Sparsely-populated category with no stated criteria for inclusion. Although a few of the members were especially noted for preaching, according to citations, I do not even think it would be helpful to use these to start a list. Very many of Category:Religious leaders are preachers. There is already Category:Sermon writers and I have added a few members of the nominated category into that. There is no need for a merger as all the current members are suitably categorised as clergy, chaplains, missionaries etc. – Fayenatic London 07:46, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Film directors from Europe

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus to delete (I am speedily renaming it to Category:European film directors to match the format of Category:European people by occupation). Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:26, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Since when do we categorize by continent? A whole bunch of these "X by continent" by this user, so someone else feel free to nominate the rest. Nymf talk to me 07:06, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Do Turkish film directors, for example, go in the Europe or Asia categories? Or both? Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 08:44, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
both - check other continental cats, this is almost always done this way. Turkey and a few others are oddballs, so they go in both. Again, the problem here is that the cats in question are only in the continental containers - the standard is you can have continental containers and a by-country list as well, making it easier On the user.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 12:46, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Don't think about cases like that. If you start to look for them, and they're all *over* the tree, you will go mad. --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 05:16, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American pornographic actors

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:American pornographic film actors. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:23, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant to Category:American pornographic film actors Nymf talk to me 07:00, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ships damaged by kamikaze attack

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:37, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Being damaged by something is not normally considered to be a WP:DEFINING characteristic. This does not form part of a "Ships damaged by something" category tree. This could be has been listified. DexDor (talk) 05:34, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for finding that CFD (in which I don't see much support for this category). The incidents category should really be just for articles that are about an incident (i.e. an event such as a fire), not for an article about any ship that had such an incident - most/all of the articles directly in the maritime incidents category are about an incident. DexDor (talk) 21:50, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There wasn't - there is now List of ships damaged by kamikaze attack. DexDor (talk) 20:02, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Monasteries where Gautama Buddha stayed

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:37, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is not a WP:DEFINING characteristic. This does not form part of a "places where someone stayed" category tree. For info: There is a list article. A related CFD is Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_November_28#Category:Places_that_Gautama_Buddha_visited. DexDor (talk) 05:28, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What is the Category:Places where someone stayed category tree? This sounds like it should be in it, and I'd like to see any other discussions about this. I'd think non-defining at first glance but maybe there's some reason I'm missing, if there's a whole category tree for it ... --Lquilter (talk) 10:47, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What I meant was that there isn't a Category:Places where someone stayed category tree for this category to fit under. DexDor (talk) 21:38, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, whew. I thought maybe I was crazy. In that case ... --Lquilter (talk) 00:06, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Villages in Norfolk connected with houses of historical interest

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:36, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Villages in Norfolk connected with houses of historical interest (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Not a WP:DEFINING characteristic. This makes a mess of the category structure. There is not a wider "Places connected with buildings of historical interest" category tree. DexDor (talk) 05:22, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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