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Category:Individual albino gorillas

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge to both parent categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:36, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT, there is only one Albino gorilla known in history. [1]. The albinism and gorilla-ness of Snowflake (gorilla) can adequately be classified in Category:Individual gorillas and Category:Individual albino animals. --Animalparty! (talk) 19:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:South African sailors (sport)

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The result of the discussion was: keep for now, though it sounds like an evaluation of Category:Sailors vs. Category:Sailors (sport) and how they work together may be in order. This close is without prejudice to a renomination of this specific category if it is part of a wider nomination relating to these categories. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:29, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category seems to be a duplicate of Category:South African sailors

This category was created by a rename of the South African yacht racers category (see CFD discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_April_29). Can I propose that we consider merging these two categories into one? Preferably for simplicity keeping it South African sailors Gbawden (talk) 18:13, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Television shows set in Sonoma, California

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:50, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: unnecessary overcategorization. sonoma county is adequate Mercurywoodrose (talk) 14:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Television shows set in Petaluma, California

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:53, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: unnecessary overcategorization. sonoma county is adequate Mercurywoodrose (talk) 14:54, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Television shows set in Gilroy, California

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:54, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: unnecessary overcategorization. santa clara county is adequate Mercurywoodrose (talk) 14:53, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Television shows set in Palo Alto, California

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:57, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: unnecessary overcategorization. santa clara county is adequate Mercurywoodrose (talk) 14:53, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sinn Féin MPs

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:22, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Following a discussion on Category talk:Sinn Féin MPs#Scope, there is a need to disambiguate between Sinn Fein MPs from before 1923 and those elected afterwards. Snappy (talk) 12:30, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
We'll still need a category with this name for a parent. Gob Lofa (talk) 14:18, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Category:Sinn Féin MPs since 1983 (or whatever date is choosen). For pre-1923 MPs, we already have Category:Early Sinn Féin politicians so we could have Category:Early Sinn Féin MPs as a sub-category. Snappy (talk) 16:48, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There is no consensus, either on WP or in the literature, that Official Sinn Féin were the successors of Sinn Féin to the exclusion of "Provisional" Sinn Féin. The argument that pre-1923 and current do not relate to the same party is therefore not cut-and-dried. Scolaire (talk) 14:36, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's true. So if the consensus is to delete then I have no problem with that. Snappy (talk)

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Category:Pension

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 12:39, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename. I think this ought to be plural. Tim! (talk) 11:28, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Geographical, historical and cultural regions

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus on what exactly to do here, but users appear to agree that some changes would be appropriate. So a re-nomination of any of the categories should be allowed after some manual re-organization and perhaps creation of new categories.. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:10, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: more easy-going name, with the explanation that it is for "Geographical, historical and cultural regions" being provided in a headnote. In most countries the term "regions" is being used instead of "areas" but we can't do that in France and Italy because "regions" has a specific administrative meaning in France and Italy. This is a follow-up nomination on this discussion about Belgium which is still open. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:31, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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A few more award categories

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 12:45, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
child categories of the above
  • Propose deleting Category:Recipients of the Military Merit Cross (Austria-Hungary), 1st class (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  • Propose deleting Category:Recipients of the Military Merit Cross (Austria-Hungary), 2nd class (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  • Propose deleting Category:Recipients of the Military Merit Cross (Austria-Hungary), 3rd class (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  • Propose deleting Category:Recipients of the Cross of Merit of the Kingdom of Hungary (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  • Propose deleting Category:Grand Crosses of the Cross of Merit of the Kingdom of Hungary (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  • Propose deleting Category:Recipients of the Order of Merit of the Kingdom of Hungary (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  • Propose deleting Category:Grand Crosses of the Order of Merit of the Kingdom of Hungary (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  • Propose deleting Category:Recipients of the Decoration for Services to the Red Cross Star (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCAWARD, per WP:NONDEF and the delete outcome of numerous previous award discussions. There is nothing special about the nominated categories to make an exception for. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:18, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Holidays and observances by frequency (to be determined)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 12:41, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Holidays and observances by frequency (to be determined) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: No proper inclusion criteria. The category was previously deleted under a slightly different name in this discussion. Upmerging to Category:Holidays is not needed / not desirable since we have all holidays and observances already in the trees of Category:Public holidays by country and Category:Observances respectively. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:19, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Establishments in Ottoman Syria by year

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. The discussion was heading in the direction of a dual-upmerge to the century categories for Ottoman Syria as well as the year categories for Ottoman Empire, e.g. Category:18th-century establishments in Ottoman Syria as well as the year categories Category:1784 establishments in the Ottoman Empire. However, implementing that now would depopulate the hierarchy in Category:Decades in Ottoman Syria, which (a) has not been tagged (despite my suggestion dated 3 June, below) and (b) has been expanded since the nomination. – Fayenatic London 13:02, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Additional listings below. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 11:55, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: None of the other states or regions within the Ottoman Empire contain their own establishments substructure and given the small number of possible categories here, it may be better to upmerge these to the Ottoman Empire establishments categories. Ricky81682 (talk) 16:15, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: Do you think these articles should be in both the Ottoman Empire and the Syria categories? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 11:50, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I guess so, the practice so far is to categorize year categories both by contemporary and by current polity. We had a huge discussion to change that for the Germany and Holy Roman Empire categories (the proposal was to categorize by Holy Roman Empire only, not by Germany) but I don't think the discussion has led to consensus. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:18, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I thought it was for categorize by contemporary polity and then put those within the current polity history by period categories. As such, the HRE categories would be the main categories and then those would be under the Germany history by period structure. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:34, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I should be more precise: sometimes an article is in one category (HRE), sometimes in the other (Germany), sometimes in both - entirely dependent on the view of an individual editor. Anyway they're not related categories except at a very very top level. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:02, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Point taken. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 11:50, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Clearer consensus is needed on whether or not these categories also need to be upmerged to Syria categories.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 07:54, 8 August 2015 (UTC) [reply]
It seems you are unaware that there are much more Ottoman Syrian categories, than shown here. It combines all "Foo in Jordan", "Foo in Syria", "Foo in Israel", "Foo in Palestine" and "Foo in Lebanon" from the Ottoman era.GreyShark (dibra) 14:33, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The reason for relisting this discussion is exactly because it wasn't very clear whether or not we should upmerge to Syrian categories. On the one hand the name "Syria" has existed for a long time before the current republic was established, on the other hand it used to be much bigger in the past than the current republic. I can understand arguments from both sides. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:14, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If a new country is created, then yes we would need to reorganized and split the article appropriately. I'm sure we did that with Southern Sudan and the like. At the moment, I'm just proposing here that we replace all of Ottoman Syria with the Ottoman Empire as no other subdivision of the Ottoman Empire exists. Otherwise, then I'll propose splitting the Ottoman Empire into its relevant subdivisions so that they connect with the current entities. The solution may be require an RFC given how complicated all this is at the moment. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I actually see the Ottoman Syria categories as a good model for Ottoman Cyprus, Rumelia Eyalet and Ottoman Crete categories to be created, whilst Ottoman Empire serves as the mother categorization for all.GreyShark (dibra) 09:13, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Again, if you want to utilize a double category tree (modern+contemporary), then if Rojava transforms into a state, you would be forced in such case to go to all historic categories and articles concerning North-East Syria and replace them with "Foo in Rojava" (like 19th century, 18th century and so on backwards). This is illogical and against Wikipedian principles, which strive for stable articles and categories.GreyShark (dibra) 09:20, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - centuries will not work well - there are too many Ottoman Syria year categories already. Considering dual upmerge per User:Marcocapelle - there is no need, because all Ottoman Syria categories are already daughter categories of Ottoman Empire.GreyShark (dibra) 20:01, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The issue isn't that there aren't enough year categories, it's that there aren't enough articles in those single year categories. Most of the tree is underpopulated. No objection to revisiting if/when there are more articles created.RevelationDirect (talk) 04:37, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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