August 7

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 7, 2015.

Ungrateful Dead

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Grateful Dead as a ((R from incorrect name)). (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 18:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Simply put, the term is not mentioned in the target article and doesn't make sense. So, either delete it or weak retarget to Grateful Dead as a ((R from incorrect name)) (which I think is probably a bad option since there are probably parody or tribute groups/bands that have this name.) Steel1943 (talk) 23:56, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Stemming the rose

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The result of the discussion was delete. The discussion below shows that this phrase is too obscure and such a redirect is too much of a surprise. There isn't much appetite for editing the target article to mention the phrase either. Deryck C. 10:29, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

According to Wiktionary, this is slang for anal sex that was used in Brokeback Mountain. No iteration of the phrase appears on the articles for the film or short story. The redirect will WP:ASTONISH and confuse readers unfamiliar with the phrase; those that know the phase's origins will learn nothing more. --BDD (talk) 17:23, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Richard, what makes you think this is significant enough a concept? As you probably know, Wikipedia has a perennial problem with overly detailed plot summaries for fictional works. Does the phrase have significant usage or influence? Was it a moment commentators especially remarked upon? It wasn't mentioned in the article when the redirect was created either. --BDD (talk) 19:46, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia does not have a problem with plot summaries that are too long, some editors have a problem with detailed plot summaries. Some have been so shortened, that after reading I have to wonder if it is the same movie I just watched, or if the person who wrote it even saw the movie. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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SpongeBump SquarePants Theme Song

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The result of the discussion was delete. WP:INVOLVED close given the size of the backlog and clear consensus. --BDD (talk) 17:34, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RFD#DELETE #8. I'm reviewing creations by this indefinitely blocked editor. He was a prolific creator of redirects, many of which seem innocuous. But his user talk page is about half RfD notifications. A few have come up recently. --BDD (talk) 16:22, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Dank meme

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 27#Dank meme

Jimbo Wale

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The result of the discussion was WP:SNOWBALL keep; withdrawn by good-faith nominator (non-admin closure) by Si Trew (talk) 00:52, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect is spelled incorrectly, so I think it should be deleted. There is no evidence that this misspelling is used frequently enough to justify keeping it per WP:R#KEEP. Everymorning talk 12:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Night of nights

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The result of the discussion was retarget to The Night of Nights. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 17:30, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Originally a redirect to Logie Award with unclear connection to the ceremony in question (no mentions of "night of nights" in the article body), by a series of bots it seems to have transformed into a confusing and pointless redirect to List of prizes, medals and awards. It doesn't seem to serve purpose other than befuddling visitors. mathrick (talk) 11:00, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Vereinigtes Königreich

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Geez, this is a pretty poor string of results here. English Wikipedia—where you have to use English, unless you're looking for the UK! --BDD (talk) 01:40, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to German. GZWDer (talk) 06:11, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@WilyD: It costs nothing to ping somebody, but it seems you prefer for me not to respond. I managed to see this on Recent Changes by fluke. You are missing the point (please read this): you are saying there is no reason when there is a reaon. I am not going to perpetuate this futile discussion. Also, you are not assuming good faith when you say I am falsely insisting this. Thank you. --Rubbish computer 16:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): That's not true. The essay that is being referenced (WP:FORRED) is an application of WP:R#D8, which is a guideline stating that obscure synonyms aren't helpful and are usually deleted. Your WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS point aside, any foreign language redirect that has any affinity with that language is always kept, which is probably why you see all those Latin and French phrases. -- Tavix (talk) 18:49, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, I'm aware of that... -- Tavix (talk) 22:11, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's a rather silly argument. Why is it important? Why is this a good candidate for ignoring rules? Don't tell me you're going wiki-anarchist on us! --BDD (talk) 13:29, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The rationale has remembered that the encyclopaedia's main purpose is provide information to readers - something the delete position either neglects or has contempt for. WilyD 16:54, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Royaume Uni

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 01:37, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to French. GZWDer (talk) 06:10, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@BU Rob13: I'm going to assume that you copy and pasted and forgot to change "China" to "United Kingdom." Is that fair? -- Tavix (talk) 18:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Affinity is exactly what they don't have, historically. Animosity, possibly. Oh, it's the 200th anniversary of the Battle of Waterloo, by the way. After all, what did France do for the United Kingdom in the two World Wars? Except provide a venue. Si Trew (talk) 00:14, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There may be a tad of French in the English language, such as Honi soit qui mal y pense on British coins and the front of my passport, but then Ich dien (→ Prince_of_Wales's_feathers) is not French, I think. In short, French language has been a major contributor to English language, but the language is not the political union: that's WP:XY. Si Trew (talk) 00:25, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Huh? WP:HARMFUL R's to WP:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions, and rather than avoiding it you are co-opting it? I don't get it. Si Trew (talk) 23:13, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Actually it is an ((R from shortcut)) to Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#It does not do any harm but was not marked as such. Is now. Si Trew (talk) 23:16, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, my mistake; thx for picking it up! Now fixed. Just Chilling (talk) 22:11, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
See also my comments at #Feilvbin, below. R titles do not have a [carte blanche] Error: ((Lang)): text has italic markup (help). Si Trew (talk) 00:14, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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いわゆる中国

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete. Even if this were a redirect from the Japanese for "China", it would be difficult to imagine a justification for keeping it, but it is in fact a redirect from a contemptuous, racist term, and as such it qualifies for speedy deletion as vandalism, and as an attack page. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:14, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Japanese. GZWDer (talk) 06:04, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Menggu

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 01:35, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Chinese. GZWDer (talk) 05:57, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • @BU Rob13: That's essentially correct, except they would not be redirected there unless they use an external search engine of some sort, such as Google. The purpose of interwiki links (now handled by Wikidata) is if the English article is located on here and Wikidata has the connect established to its article on a different language Wikipedia, then it can be located there. If you haven't noticed them before, those links are located on the bottom-left side of the page. Steel1943 (talk) 04:54, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...And how this is useful to those who speak English? Steel1943 (talk) 23:19, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many people speak both Chinese and English. Although the effort to delete redirects related to non-English languages has done substantial damage to the ability of second language speakers to use English Wikipedia, it has probably done only very minimal damage to their ability to speak English. WilyD 16:06, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • You just described the purpose of Wikidata and interwiki links. Having a non-English title built into the English Wikipedia as a redirect to an article in English rather than its "other language equivalent", in my opinion, causes more harm than good. Steel1943 (talk) 17:41, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • We usually have redirects for original/native language names. And this is Taiwanese territory (as claimed) so would be the native "official" language. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Feilvbin

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 01:33, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Chinese. GZWDer (talk) 05:57, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

After all, someone searching does not know, at that time, that the page title is a redirect, nor should they need to know. So a redirect should have the same rules for its title as an article.
My rationales or reasons given are:
  1. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense (in English language)
  2. WP:RFD#D2 not mentioned at target i.e. confusing (see the WT:RFD discussion I referred to)
  3. WP:NOTDIC not a translation dictionary
  4. WP:FORRED
  5. ...but WP:USEENGLISH is the most apt.
Si Trew (talk) 23:25, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Malaixiya

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 17#Malaixiya

Jianpuzhai

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 01:33, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Chinese. GZWDer (talk) 05:56, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Miandian

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 01:31, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Chinese. GZWDer (talk) 05:56, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Nipoer

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 01:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Chinese. GZWDer (talk) 05:56, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Nipo'er

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 01:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Chinese. GZWDer (talk) 05:56, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Bajisitan

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 01:29, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Chinese. GZWDer (talk) 05:55, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Kashimi'er

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 01:29, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Chinese. GZWDer (talk) 05:55, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Afuhan

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 01:27, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Chinese. GZWDer (talk) 05:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Dajikesitan

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The result of the discussion was delete Just Chilling (talk) 21:09, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Chinese. Also misspelling GZWDer (talk) 05:53, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Yiselie

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 01:22, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Chinese. GZWDer (talk) 05:53, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Balesitan

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 01:17, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Chinese. GZWDer (talk) 05:53, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Yindunixiya

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 01:17, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to Chinese. GZWDer (talk) 05:52, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Where the telephone was invented

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 01:16, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:27, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Where hitler died

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 01:15, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:25, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you had read NOTFAQ, you would have discovered that it's unambiguously inapplicable here, in a way that no one who had read it could miss. There's no need to apply a footnote to it say it doesn't apply to redirects, any more than there's a need to apply a footnote to WP:CSD#G12 saying it doesn't apply to redirects. The substance of what it says makes it entirely unambiguous that it cannot. So, again, I implore you to read NOTFAQ before invoking it. WilyD 09:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Who writes Wikipedia?

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The result of the discussion was delete. (Who writes Wikipedia? We do! We do!) --BDD (talk) 22:43, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:23, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Who writes Wikipedia

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:38, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:23, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Who killed Osama bin Laden?

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:38, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:23, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. Having readers look up "questions" that are not titles of subjects give readers the false expectation of finding either a complete answer to their question, or expect to find an actual subject by this name, such as a book title. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you had read NOTFAQ, you would have discovered that it's unambiguously inapplicable here, in a way that no one who had read it could miss. There's no need to apply a footnote to it say it doesn't apply to redirects, any more than there's a need to apply a footnote to WP:CSD#G12 saying it doesn't apply to redirects. The substance of what it says makes it entirely unambiguous that it cannot. So, again, I implore you to read NOTFAQ before invoking it. WilyD 09:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Who killed Osama bin Laden

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:36, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:22, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. Having readers look up "questions" that are not titles of subjects give readers the false expectation of finding either a complete answer to their question, or expect to find an actual subject by this name, such as a book title. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you had read NOTFAQ, you would have discovered that it's unambiguously inapplicable here, in a way that no one who had read it could miss. There's no need to apply a footnote to it say it doesn't apply to redirects, any more than there's a need to apply a footnote to WP:CSD#G12 saying it doesn't apply to redirects. The substance of what it says makes it entirely unambiguous that it cannot. So, again, I implore you to read NOTFAQ before invoking it. WilyD 09:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Who killed JFK

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The result of the discussion was delete. There's disagreement about where to point this, and plenty of support for just throwing it out. --BDD (talk) 22:35, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:22, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is a statement "[This is] Who killed JFK" ... It is not "Who killed JFK?" --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 19:42, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you had read NOTFAQ, you would have discovered that it's unambiguously inapplicable here, in a way that no one who had read it could miss. There's no need to apply a footnote to it say it doesn't apply to redirects, any more than there's a need to apply a footnote to WP:CSD#G12 saying it doesn't apply to redirects. The substance of what it says makes it entirely unambiguous that it cannot. So, again, I implore you to read NOTFAQ before invoking it. WilyD 09:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Who elects the new pope

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The result of the discussion was no consensus, default to keep. The comments are split between WP:NOTFAQ and the argument that the target article pretty much exactly answers the question posed by the redirect title. Deryck C. 10:38, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:21, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you had read NOTFAQ, you would have discovered that it's unambiguously inapplicable here, in a way that no one who had read it could miss. There's no need to apply a footnote to it say it doesn't apply to redirects, any more than there's a need to apply a footnote to WP:CSD#G12 saying it doesn't apply to redirects. The substance of what it says makes it entirely unambiguous that it cannot. So, again, I implore you to read NOTFAQ before invoking it. WilyD 09:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Who discovered america?

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:22, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:21, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Who discovered America?

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:22, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:21, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To explain the present situation requires delving into some history. I came to the topic on February 10, 2008, because of a question at the Humanities reference desk. The first answer given linked to Discovery of america, which at the time was a redirect to Pre-Columbian trans-oceanic contact. I thought any encyclopedic discussion of the dicovery of America should deal one way or another with the narrative that someone by the name of Columbus "discovered" America, and not skirt the issue by switching to "Pre-Columbian" without any prior discussion. For that reason, I changed the page to redirect to Discovery of the Americas. Later the page Discovery of america was changed to redirect to Voyages of Christopher Columbus, which represents the opposite point of view to the original pov target Pre-Columbian trans-oceanic contact! The page Discovery of America was also changed to redirect there.)
In February 2008 the redirect target Discovery of the Americas was a reasonable stub that, in my opinion, had the potential to become a normal full-fledged article. (Just before doing this, I had moved the stub from the title Discoverer of the Americas to Discovery of the Americas, which I thought was a more reasonable title.)
I then also created the page Who discovered America? as #REDIRECT[[Discovery of the Americas]]. I don't remember now exactly why I created the redirect page, but probably because I thought it was a plausible search term – there was already an older page titled Who discovered america?, and there is now even a book by that title.
Since then, Discovery of the Americas was reclassified from history stub to dab page on April 24, 2009, moved to Discovery of the Americas (disambiguation) (since deleted) on July 13, 2009, moved back to Discovery of the Americas on February 13, 2014 with an appeal to WP:MALPLACED, and immediately afterwards replaced by a redirect to History of the Americas, now with an appeal to WP:DABCONCEPT. I happen to think this is not an optimal situation; the various viewpoints and theories concerning the discovery of the Americas, although connected to the history of the Americas, nevertheless constitute a clearly discernible separate issue that has its own history, even though the topics are obviously connected.
In the meanwhile, the page Who discovered America? had also been changed (together with Discovery of America) to redirect to the pov target Voyages of Christopher Columbus, but then it was changed again (on November 15, 2014) to redirect to Settlement of the Americas, which is the current situation. Quite ironically, the edit summary was Npov.
I still think we should have a separate article on the Discovery of the Americas, to which Who discovered America? then should redirect, but as long as that is not the case, both should redirect to the same target – but not to any of Settlement of the Americas, Pre-Columbian trans-oceanic contact, or Voyages of Christopher Columbus. At the moment, the mosr reasonable target is History of the Americas.  --Lambiam 11:05, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you had read NOTFAQ, you would have discovered that it's unambiguously inapplicable here, in a way that no one who had read it could miss. There's no need to apply a footnote to it say it doesn't apply to redirects, any more than there's a need to apply a footnote to WP:CSD#G12 saying it doesn't apply to redirects. The substance of what it says makes it entirely unambiguous that it cannot. So, again, I implore you to read NOTFAQ before invoking it. WilyD 09:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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When is Christmas?

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How wikis work

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:21, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:15, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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How volcanoes are formed

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 02:35, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:15, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you had read NOTFAQ, you would have discovered that it's unambiguously inapplicable here, in a way that no one who had read it could miss. There's no need to apply a footnote to it say it doesn't apply to redirects, any more than there's a need to apply a footnote to WP:CSD#G12 saying it doesn't apply to redirects. The substance of what it says makes it entirely unambiguous that it cannot. So, again, I implore you to read NOTFAQ before invoking it. WilyD 09:11, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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How transistors work

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 02:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:15, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you had read NOTFAQ, you would have discovered that it's unambiguously inapplicable here, in a way that no one who had read it could miss. There's no need to apply a footnote to it say it doesn't apply to redirects, any more than there's a need to apply a footnote to WP:CSD#G12 saying it doesn't apply to redirects. The substance of what it says makes it entirely unambiguous that it cannot. So, again, I implore you to read NOTFAQ before invoking it. WilyD 09:11, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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How the universe was created

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How the structure of starch is suite to its function

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:17, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:14, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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How the solar system was formed

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:13, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:13, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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How television works

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:12, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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How rainfall calculated

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The result of the discussion delete. --BDD (talk) 22:09, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:12, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Right, because it's a sentence fragment, which is equally misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 23:19, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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How radiation affects Perceived temperature

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How plants make food

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:10, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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How old the earth is?

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:06, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:08, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you had read NOTFAQ, you would have discovered that it's unambiguously inapplicable here, in a way that no one who had read it could miss. There's no need to apply a footnote to it say it doesn't apply to redirects, any more than there's a need to apply a footnote to WP:CSD#G12 saying it doesn't apply to redirects. The substance of what it says makes it entirely unambiguous that it cannot. So, again, I implore you to read NOTFAQ before invoking it. WilyD 09:09, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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How old is the Earth?

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How noise pollution affect our health

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:58, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:07, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • ...Due to a lack of a question mark at the end of the redirect's title? If there was a question mark there, it would be a question, based on the redirect's wording. Steel1943 (talk) 23:19, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you had read NOTFAQ, you would have discovered that it's unambiguously inapplicable here, in a way that no one who had read it could miss. There's no need to apply a footnote to it say it doesn't apply to redirects, any more than there's a need to apply a footnote to WP:CSD#G12 saying it doesn't apply to redirects. The substance of what it says makes it entirely unambiguous that it cannot. So, again, I implore you to read NOTFAQ before invoking it. WilyD 09:08, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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How mapping has changed over human history

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:47, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:07, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you had read NOTFAQ, you would have discovered that it's unambiguously inapplicable here, in a way that no one who had read it could miss. There's no need to apply a footnote to it say it doesn't apply to redirects, any more than there's a need to apply a footnote to WP:CSD#G12 saying it doesn't apply to redirects. The substance of what it says makes it entirely unambiguous that it cannot. So, again, I implore you to read NOTFAQ before invoking it. WilyD 09:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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How many spaces after a period

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How many men?

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The result of the discussion was keep, refining the target to Taxation as theft#How many men?. --BDD (talk) 21:45, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned. This can also refers to Population. GZWDer (talk) 05:06, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep given the restored content to the Taxation as Theft page. ~ RobTalk 00:42, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@67.70.32.190: Given the improvements made since this RFD was filed, are you still standing by your "Delete this does not make sense" comment? CactusWriter (talk) 22:56, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, I thought I struck it out when I placed my reply. It's been corrected now -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Although it's mentioned I still think the title is ambigous.--GZWDer (talk) 09:07, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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How internet use affects the human brain

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How internet use affects humans

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How fast can a handgun bullet travel

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:41, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:03, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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How elements are arranged in the Periodic Table

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How directness of sunlight causes warmer weather

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How are women treated in comparison to men in iran

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:31, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 05:02, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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How a toilet works

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 02:32, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:59, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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How a strep test works

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:22, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:59, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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How a transistor works

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 02:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:58, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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How a transistor work

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:21, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:58, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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How a Transistor Works

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 02:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:58, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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How a jukebox works

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 02:29, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:57, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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How a bill becomes a law

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The result of the discussion was delete. I almost just retargeted as the nom suggested; it would be a valid ((R from other capitalisation)). But in most cases, the search engine is case-insensitive anyway. It also would've felt like quite the supervote, even though I doubt anyone would've objected. --BDD (talk) 21:20, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. Probably retarget to How a Bill Becomes a Law. GZWDer (talk) 04:57, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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What's Wikipedia

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:01, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:55, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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What's RSS?

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:00, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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What wikipedia is

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:00, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:53, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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What was the main cause of WWII?

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:59, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:51, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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What time is dinner

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 02:28, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:51, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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What led to civil war

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:58, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:50, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rob, it looks like you've been copying and pasting this answer. What makes you think that the origins of American Civil War "unambiguous[ly] answer" a question about an unspecified civil war? Why not Background of the Spanish Civil War or English Civil War#Background? See also WP:BIAS. --BDD (talk) 19:40, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at all redirects before pasting the answer to them. Note that I responded to all redirects nominated for the "QA site" reason, but I did select delete or change redirect to a fair amount of them. You do make a good point, and I had looked at this from my US-centric point of view. It is more appropriate to delete or possibly redirect to something like List of civil wars, from which readers can find the article that they seek. Deleting probably causes the least confusion, so that's my preferred option. ~ RobTalk 20:20, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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What is the origin of life?

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:55, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ambigous redirect. See Origin of life. GZWDer (talk) 04:49, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@BU Rob13: That would be a double redirect.Godsy(TALKCONT) 08:39, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I wouldn't have "invoked" it if I didn't read it. My comment about "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" referring to Wikipedia "as a whole" still stands. Anyone can debate the interpretation of that page in discussion (as apparently, we are doing here). If you want to invalidate any part of WP:WWIN to not apply to specific aspects of Wikipedia, feel free to start a discussion on its talk page. However, it looks like the discussion about specifically restricting WP:NOTFAQ from applying to redirects (on WP:WWIN's talk page) is approaching a WP:SNOW oppose close. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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What if extraterrestrials come to Earth

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What happens after you die

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:54, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:47, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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What frequences can bats hear

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 02:28, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:46, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to illustrate a point above. If we do this type of thing, the combinatorial explosion would be insane. We have a search engine, making these type of redirects generally un-useful and only serving to create clutter. If we didn't have a search engine, then to a certain point, I could see it.
The above aside, I'm not going to restate it every time, but I fundamentally disagree with you about WP:NOTFAQ, and your opinion that it doesn't apply to redirects.Godsy(TALKCONT) 04:39, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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What happens after death

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:50, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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What caused the Civil War

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:49, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a QA site. GZWDer (talk) 04:44, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • As per BDD's comment in another similar RfD, this is not unambiguous due to a failure to specify which civil war. It is more appropriate to delete or possibly redirect to something like List of civil wars, from which readers can find the article that they seek. Deleting probably causes the least confusion, so that's my preferred option. ~ RobTalk 20:22, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Having a baby/child

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The result of the discussion was no consensus, default to delete. There is a split of opinion between "delete" and "retarget", with an additional underlying argument that the given phrases can refer to either parenting or childbirth. Deryck C. 11:16, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if this is the best (or even correct) target for these terms. However, the terms also seem ambiguous, given that they may refer to the topics in Birth or Childbirth. (There may be a disambiguation page here somewhere.) Steel1943 (talk) 02:31, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Parenting and child guidance classes and authors

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:48, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTGUIDE, WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Steel1943 (talk) 02:26, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom.Godsy(TALKCONT) 03:40, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hand picked coffee

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Coffee production#Picking. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 17:26, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect is a bit misleading. Probably best to either retarget it to Coffee bean (since they are the crop picked by hand), or delete. Steel1943 (talk) 02:05, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Raktajeno

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:47, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is, surprisingly, a WP:NOTWIKIA violation. This is the name of either coffee or a type of coffee in the Star Trek universe. That, and it seems as though this is spelled incorrectly anyways; search engines return the correct spelling of this word as "Raktajino". Steel1943 (talk) 01:57, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Definition of beverage

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:41, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTDIC. Steel1943 (talk) 01:51, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The effects of soda

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:39, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTGUIDE. That, and Soda is a disambiguation page, so thus, "soda" is ambiguous. Steel1943 (talk) 01:22, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Seedrink

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The result of the discussion was delete. You can drink sea water, but I wouldn't recommend it. --BDD (talk) 20:35, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not finding any results that this redirect refers to anything specific, let alone "soft drink". All results I find for this term on search engines seem to return results for some sort of actor promotion or discovery company. Steel1943 (talk) 00:40, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Soda drinking

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Graveyard Drink

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:33, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article, and most search engine searches return results for some sort of cocktail, but the redirect isn't mentioned there. That, and the possible cocktail doesn't seem to be named the same as the redirect anyways. Steel1943 (talk) 00:35, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Cool drink

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:32, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Soft drinks are not the only drinks that can be cool, in style and/or in temperature. That, and the redirect was previously an article that basically stated that "cool drink" is synonymous for "soft drink" in India, but that article had no references, and searches for "cool drink India" and "cool drink" on search engines couldn't provide any proof that the phrase "cool drink" refers to anything specific anywhere. Steel1943 (talk) 00:26, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Finite module

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Feuerwehrmann

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The result of the discussion was delete. The retargeting proposal has some merit, but as the IP noted, this concept would be used in Austria, and probably a few other countries as well. --BDD (talk) 20:32, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FORRED; firefighters are not exclusive to German-speaking cultures. However, the word "feuerwehr" seems to be mentioned in the article, but not with the suffix "mann". If there is a retargetting option for this redirect, it may be German fire services. Steel1943 (talk) 00:03, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for comparing apples to oranges, and validating my statement. The issue here is trying to find this term's most associated subject in English-speaking use, which, in this case, seems to possibly be German fire services. Wikipedia isn't a translation service; that's Wikidata and interwiki links. To elaborate, a redirect from English to an article on the English Wikipedia whose article title (possibly established by WP:COMMONNAME) has a foreign-language name could be seen as appropriate (considering that this term could be seen in English context), but a non-English term redirecting to an article with a title that is of a language that is not the same language (including English) on the English Wikipedia, unless the word is some sort of loanword, is not an appropriate redirect due to not having established use in the English language. Steel1943 (talk) 17:50, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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