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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 19, 2015.

Break-brake distinction

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:45, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ll redirect to phonological change. They should be deleted. Not mentioned in the article. Look like a bunch of made up names. 2602:306:3653:8920:C98:897E:434B:84FC (talk) 23:55, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Roisterously

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:43, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading. Roister means enjoy oneself or celebrate in a noisy or boisterous way. Riot means 1. a wild or turbulent disturbance created by a large number of people. 2. Law A violent disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons assembled... Roist is not really a word. I thought boisterous but no such article. Delete to encourage article creation, with maybe the less complex ones pointed at party. Another from Neelix Legacypac (talk) 23:46, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Amazingly we don't have roisterousness. As usual I've rcatted them, without prejudice, as R from verb etc. Si Trew (talk) 04:20, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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To prefer

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The result of the discussion was delete all. JohnCD (talk) 23:11, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Very vague. The target has these meanings, but you can carry over a plate, carry over a motion etc. Same for the other terms which do not apply only or even especially to this church office. Legacypac (talk) 23:02, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I think these have just been scraped from the etymology in the lede, which often gives incongrous redirects since several things can share the same etymology. F'rexample, we could retarget To prefer to preference; but why do so, when patently we have survived without that until now? Si Trew (talk) 04:09, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Dialytika tonos

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Greek diacritics. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 08:20, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is a transcription of the Greek word for the diaeresis (διαλυτικά, dialytika) and the Greek word for the accent (τόνος, tonos). I cannot see the point of having these two words together in a page's title but, if they are to be kept, it would make a little more sense if they redirected to Greek diacritics. The Traditionalist (talk) 21:11, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm Boring

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 23:10, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect doesn't make any sense. FallingGravity (talk) 20:03, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment actually we have Lovebugs (band) but I'm not sure it's the same band; certainly a song of this title isn't mentioned there. Si Trew (talk) 06:18, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Antoneta Stefanova

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 08:16, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Antoneta" is a typo, her first name is Antoaneta, as her FIDE page (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2902257) and all the chess websites and magazines report. Sophia91 (talk) 19:26, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • "Échecs : Marie Sebag éliminée par Antoneta Stefanova". chess-and-strategy.com (in French). 23 November 2012. Retrieved 20 November 2015.
  • "Bulgaria's Stefanova Grabs Women World Rapid Chess Title". noinvite.com. Sofia, Bulgaria. Sofia News Agency. 4 June 1202. Retrieved 20 November 2015.
The second is perhaps more relevant (to RfD) in that it is a Bulgarian publication making this transliteration. Tag as ((R from transliteration)). Si Trew (talk) 13:07, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's a misspelling, not a valid alternative transliteration. You'll find your Bulgarian source correctly spells it "Antoaneta" twice in that article; the one appearance of "Antoneta" is just a typo. It does demonstrate it's a plausible typo and a likely search term, though. Sideways713 (talk) 13:26, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also the French article correctly spells "Antoaneta", the typo is only in the title. I follow almost everyday the leading chess news websites, which are ChessBase, Chessdom, Chess.com, chess24, and none of them ever spelled "Antoneta". In Wikipedia there were only two articles that wrongly spelled "Antoneta" and I fixed the typo in both articles, so now there are no wiki articles with "Antoneta Stefanova", there is no reason to keep this misspelled name. In addition, all the online chess games databases spell her name as "Antoaneta Stefanova". Sophia91 (talk) 15:30, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Male Escort Awards

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Orthopedic

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The result of the discussion was keep all. The emerging consensus is that orthopedic surgery is the primary topic. Deryck C. 11:30, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:XY, a solution seems needed. —Godsy(TALKCONT) 18:14, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Print making in Japan

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. This is a bit complicated. It seems indisputably true that woodblock printing does not represent the entirety of Japanese printing, but also that it's Japan's best known technique in that field. I think it's inevitable that some of these will disappoint or mislead readers, but perhaps more will be served by them. An optimal outcome would be for someone to write an article on printmaking in Japan in its entirety. --BDD (talk) 16:37, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Too vague. Lots of things get printed in Japan without wood blocks Legacypac (talk) 15:17, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In Japan, until after about 1870, printmaking was just woodblock printing, and it is only Japanese woodblock prints that are famous in the West - ukiyo-e, The Great Wave off Kanagawa etc. Johnbod (talk) 07:41, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:31, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I was just going by what you said. It is certainly untrue that "none of them are particularly specific to Japan" - this one is. Johnbod (talk) 07:53, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, without looking at them all, I see only a couple of those using other techniques in Category:Japanese printmakers. We have many articles on individual Japanese prints and series, but all woodblock as far as I can see. Art of Japan currently has nothing on any other techniques (I'm not saying that's appropriate, but it is the current position). 1850 (for example) is not "ancient". Johnbod (talk) 07:41, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nearly every artist in that category also works/worked in oils, watercolors, etc. Among the modern professionals, some have no connection to woodblock at all. Museums may celebrate this ancient antique form most often, but no matter how well known it is, contemporary art trends matter too. It seems parochial, or at least weirdly quaint, to redirect inquiries on Japanese printmaking to this single traditional style, SteveStrummer (talk) 15:48, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
But we have a vast amount on that, and nothing outside bios on other techniques in Japan. So there is really nowhere else to send them, but (see below) they are rather commonly used. How does deleting them help? The only Japanese printmaker in other techniques at all well known in the West is Tsuguharu Foujita who spent decades in France. "Nearly every artist in that category also works/worked in oils, watercolors, etc." is not true - most are "antique" (as you put it) woodblock guys, with 129 in the relevant subcats, several repeated in the main category. Johnbod (talk) 16:06, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Inquiries made into basic printmaking can quickly and easily yield information on the Japanese scene. Deleting these canned redirects would help by preventing a false equation between traditional woodcut styles and the wider, more nuanced business of modern printmaking. SteveStrummer (talk) 17:05, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing at printmaking on other Japanese work. Frankly, as the hits on modern printmakers' bios show, the vast majority of our readers are interested in the historic, famous, woodblock tradition. Redirects are there to help the reader, not promote our own agendas. Johnbod (talk) 17:55, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Agendas? Really? That's where you think your opposition comes from... on "Printmaking in Japan"?? SteveStrummer (talk) 01:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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DWAS-TV

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The result of the discussion was move DWAS-TV (GMA) to DWAS-TV, delete others. The quest for truth in this discussion has returned the conclusion that there was a confusion between DWAC-TV = Studio 23 ≠ DWAS-TV by some of the previous authors, so they left a bunch of incorrect redirects in their wake. Deryck C. 18:10, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of "DWAS" on target page. DWAS-TV (GMA) seems to be only usage for "DWAS". PamD 17:19, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DWAS-TV (GMA) started life on 4 December 2011 as being moved from DWAS-TV, it was then moved to DWAS-TV (Studio 23 Olongapo) on 4 December 2011 by User:Izzami and then moved to DWAS-TV (Studio 23) on 28 December 2011 by same user, who also moved that day to its current target, DWAS-TV (GMA), leaving all these redirects in its wake.
I realise this is a move request. We could just retarget it to DWAS-TV (GMA), but then really we'd need a requested move to reverse the redirect (as ((R from unnecessary disambiguation))), and that's just WP:BURO. Also, I don't want to open a RM until we have consensus here that it is indeed just a confusion between DWAC-TV and DWAS-TV. (I'm certainly confused.) Si Trew (talk) 03:46, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Singlelevelers

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 18:31, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This was declined for speedy so here it is. Searches find absolutely nothing for "Singlelevelers" (10 meaningless results for me) or Single Levelers (under 500 meaningless results). In fact, the delete nomination was the closest match for me the first time I searched without quotes. Purely invented term that does not match the target or anything else. I think we better spend a week on this to make sure we completely exhaust the topic to everyone's total satisfaction. Legacypac (talk) 11:54, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

band name has 3 Ls, and this is a fake word about as useful as tfdtkdckckf Legacypac (talk) 22:22, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That is correct, but that is a process not an invented noun. Legacypac (talk) 05:56, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Sir Hart Davis

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The result of the discussion was no consensus, default to keep. I think even if I relisted this, we'll continue to get a 50:50 split between "it's wrong, delete" and "it's unambiguous, keep". Deryck C. 18:13, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The title "Sir" is never used with just a surname. See also the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2015_November_18#Sir Rupert Charles. Si Trew (talk) 07:54, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Slow Blind Driveway

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 08:27, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No relevance on target page. Nothing on John Gorka mentions this as a pseudonym. Name has a history as a former longstanding hoax. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 06:44, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hunks

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 05:11, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt many people are thinking of this film when they think of Hunks. A WP:SURPRISE result. Legacypac (talk) 02:14, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done and Withdraw Legacypac (talk) 04:34, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Functions of human resource management

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 08:23, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not a likely redirect. DGG ( talk ) 01:30, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Red aspect

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My Rock is God

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The result of the discussion was delete all. JohnCD (talk) 23:09, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

These are meanings of alternative versions of the angel's name, but there are plenty more applications for these phrases, including Bible verses and songs. Not a normal way to access this information and not what I would expect to find at the search term. Legacypac (talk) 01:10, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A search gives me Finlandia Hymn as close, but that's the proof of a delete pudding. Si Trew (talk) 03:04, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Evening of God

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The result of the discussion was keep the correct foreign-language names mentioned in target; delete others. Deryck C. 15:40, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect, various languages, created to build edit and page creation count. Legacypac (talk) 01:06, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I do inform, at least once per batch anyway, which gives a link to the discussion. Legacypac (talk) 01:58, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know Hebrew alphabet but I checked just by copy-pasting into my Find bar on Firefox. Râmêêl is present. Of the other alphabets, the first one "דעמאנל" is not in there that I can find, second Hebrew one "רעמאנל" is (Aramaic), third "רעמיאל" is (Hebrew), fourth "‘Ραμιήλ" (Greek) is. These can probably stay as ((R from other language)) as they are in the WP:FIRSTSENTENCE of the target; As usual without prejudice I'll marked as such. The first (missing) one differs from the second (present) one in the first (rightmost) character, "ד" (Dalet) vs. "ר" (Resh). Dalet#Significance says it is used to represent the Names of God in Judaism. I'm just reporting what I found from Wikipeda in case others have trouble with rendering etc; I don't know the rights and wrongs of this. It's certainly it's not easy doing bidirectional text editing! Si Trew (talk) 08:54, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If they're mentioned in the target they might be useful, and these are defined at the top of the lede. But none seems to be present on Hebrew Wikipedia, nor the target have an Interwiki link thence. Si Trew (talk) 10:18, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Fierce lion

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:40, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Another list of messed up meanings of a name. Legacypac (talk) 01:00, 19 November 2015 (UTC) Legacypac (talk) 01:00, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Birth of God

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:38, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Blasphemy. There is a big difference between "the birth of the gods" and The birth of God (the one God who was and is and is to come). Legacypac (talk) 00:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget per 70.51. I've put a ((redirect)) hatnote on Evolutionary origin of religions, to which Origin of religion redirects. I ain't joining that fight. Si Trew (talk) 04:46, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Bir' as-Sabi

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 08:25, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

phonetic pronunciation only of the Arabic version of the name. Inappropriate redirect to a town that has a well recognized name in English. Legacypac (talk) 00:52, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's really no mystery behind most of Neelix's redirects. At the time this one was created, this exact transliteration appeared in the lede. So at least one other person used this transliteration at some point. —Xezbeth (talk) 08:05, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There are some common patterns (bad derivations from etymologies, for example, and verbing parts of speech that won't stand the treatment). Not all fall into that pattern; some are useful, but the user may occasionally have got a little carried away with adverbialisationalness.. Si Trew (talk) 13:40, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Sir Rupert Charles

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The result of the discussion was delete all. JohnCD (talk) 15:09, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is no evidence this man went by his middle name and last name, or Sir First and Middle names or the other tossed salad combos here. Delete as nonsense Neelix redirects — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legacypac (talk • contribs) 19 November 2015 00:50 (UTC)

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Light of God

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The result of the discussion was dabify and delete, respectively. --BDD (talk) 22:28, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect contrived Hebrew meanings to names. Not useful search terms as too vague. Someone reading the article might like to know the meaning of the name, but not useful in the reverse. Like another group nominated earlier. Legacypac (talk) 00:48, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Chiineses

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The result of the discussion was delete. Just Chilling (talk) 01:55, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Too many typos to be plausible. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 00:33, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A paper-thin majority of 7 to 5, according to my counting: and that's being generous with a couple of "spikes"(to two a day!) at the end of October. Si Trew (talk) 04:54, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, that's a pity. It seemed to me that the balance between deleting the obvious without fuss, and bringing others to RfD for forensic examination, had settled about where it should be. Si Trew (talk) 04:57, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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