This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 8, 2020.
Bob Scanlon
Name redirects to Boston Astros. Bob Scanlon is not mentioned in article. Redirect appears to have been an act of self-promotion. Hoping to move draft article to mainspace. Meanderingbartender (talk) 11:15, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
PopCulture.com
Not mentioned in the target or, outside of citations, in any other article. MJL has helpfully clarified the relationship between PopCulture.com and CBS Interactive, but between us we haven't been able to find any sources that would provide a basis for a mention of the former to be added to the target. If we can't add such a mention the redirect is not very useful and should probably be deleted. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 19:55, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
List of newspapers on islands
These titles seem like they would be better off as redlinks per WP:R#DELETE #10, rather than redirecting to an EL section. signed, Rosguill talk 16:31, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Vernonia fasciculata
Vernonia fasciculata Michx. is an accepted species[1] and shouldn't be redirected to another taxon. It would be better as a red link. Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 02:22, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Adding some other ironweeds and some redirected accepted species that have several incoming links:
- Vernonia angustifolia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - accepted species at POWO
- Vernonia balansae (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - accepted species at POWO
- Anabasis elatior (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - accepted species at POWO
- Artemisia capillaris (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - accepted species at POWO
- Brosimum acutifolium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - accepted species at POWO
- Erodium maritimum (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - accepted species at POWO
- Ferula jaeschkeana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - accepted species at POWO
- Laportea interrupta (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - accepted species at POWO
- Patrinia scabiosifolia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - accepted species at POWO
- Rhigozum obovatum (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - accepted species at POWO
- Welfia regia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - accepted species at POWO
- —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 22:13, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- For the additional listings: Vernonia angustifolia and Vernonia balansae are a little different from the others. I believe the redirects were added in good faith. Vernonia angustifolia D.Don ex Hook. & Arn. is synonym of Vernonanthura nudiflora per POWO. But Vernonia angustifolia Michx. is an accepted species. Vernonia angustifolia should be a red link, but there should also be a set index article, probably entitled Vernonia angustifolia (disambiguation), listing the two names.
- Laportea is a good example of why species should not redirect to the genus: would the real articles there please stand up? Declangi (talk) 23:45, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- SIAs and DABs are different things. An SIA should not have a (disambiguation) qualifier; nor should a DAB page at the basename. A DAB page having the (disambiguation) qualifier containing a primary topic and one other topic falls foul of WP:ONEOTHER.
- The redirects Vernonia angustifolia (Michx.) and Vernonia angustifolia (D.Don ex Hook. & Arn.) exist. They would be valid entries on a DAB page titled Vernonia angustifolia categorised into Category:Plant common name disambiguation pages. Narky Blert (talk) 03:27, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- id:Vernonia angustifolia and vi:Vernonia angustifolia exist, both about Vernonia angustifolia (Michx.). They could be usefully ((ill)) linked in Vernonia. Opening a can of worms, species:Vernonia angustifolia is a redirect to species:Vernonanthura nudiflora. Narky Blert (talk) 03:41, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "
species:Vernonia angustifolia is a redirect to species:Vernonanthura nudiflora
" - thanks, fixed! —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 14:12, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.Relisting comment: The 11 redirects added by
Hyperik after the discussion started were not tagged with
((Rfd2)). At this point, all the aforementioned redirects have been tagged and their creators and targets notified.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 05:39, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply] - Two points:
- Yes, redirects from species to the genus are not only useless to readers, they are actively unhelpful, since they give the impression that the species article exists, when it doesn't. Species are inherently notable, and WP:REDLINK is clear on red links.
- Some of these need more careful analysis than a combined listing and discussion here. For example, there are two species with the name "Vernonia angustifolia": Vernonia angustifolia D.Don ex Hook. & Arn. which is a synonym of Vernonanthura nudiflora (Less.) H.Rob., and Vernonia angustifolia Michx., which is an accepted species. The correct solution in this case, which I shall be bold and implement, is to create a stub article with a hatnote.
- Peter coxhead (talk) 08:56, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ecola State Park Rookery
This was a stub article created in 2009 that was immediately blanked and redirected for lack of notability. It really should have gone through AFD at that time or been properly patrolled. Currently, I cannot find any information regarding a "Rookery" in Ecola State Park. I request consensus for deletion of this redirect. Mdewman6 (talk) 04:45, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Peter Shelton
This currently goes to Peter L. Shelton, an architect tagged with notability concern but with an NYT obit. Based on a Google search, page length, etc., the primary topic looks like it's actually Peter Shelton (sculptor). I think we may want to move the latter to "Peter Shelton" and turn the former into a hatnote. Alternatively, we could make it a disambiguation page. ((u|Sdkb)) talk 03:02, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]