December 14

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 14, 2021.

Peri-peri (Portuguese source)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay (talk) 06:01, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling mistake, implausible redirect. Sahaib3005 (talk) 22:43, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:R from other punctuation

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Joel Dean

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SuperStation, Inc.

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay (talk) 19:18, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"SuperStation, Inc." is not mentioned at the target, and may be ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:23, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:SLOP

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Armenians

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Bob Shannon (Radio)

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:04, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This has a capitalisation error and is not consistent with Bob Shannon (radio personality). I suggest delete. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:35, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-canonical

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The result of the discussion was retarget first and second to Canonical. No consensus for the third. Jay (talk) 21:39, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget all to Canon (fiction), as all titles more closely relate to canon in literature/fiction than their current targets. I wouldn't expect Biblical canon when wikilinking, and they might not represent a WP:WORLDWIDE view of the topics (though I have no idea of the topic). Non-canon and Fictional canon redirect to Canon (fiction), making Non-canonical differ. For Literary canon, I suggest the already-existing hatnote in Canon (fiction) suffices to navigate to Western canon if they are looking for it. If Literary canon is kept (because of the large number of links to it), the hatnote distinguishing it with Canon (fiction) should stay. SWinxy (talk) 01:00, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, this is just nonsense - Canonical is a train wreck of a page, and redirecting a noun like "Literary canon" to a lengthy (rather over-lengthy) disam page for an adjective will almost always be a bad idea. "Non-canonical books" is a basic concept in Biblical studies, but must be extremely rarely used for other types of fiction - see this search. Google struggles to find any uses that aren't about the Bible. Johnbod (talk) 16:05, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Canonical looks like pretty much every other disambig page, I see no train-wreck. I guess no one would object if you sorted it alphabetically, putting Religion above Science (plus ça change !). Literary canon is certainly a special case and I withdraw that part of my agreement. [It needs a separate discussion, it certainly should not redirect to Canonical (disambiguation) and certainly not to Canon (fiction). Canon (disambiguation) maybe but that seems pointless atm if just ends up going to Western Canon anyway.] --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:27, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Per talk:Canonical#Not a dab page, I have seen the error of my ways and repented. That part of reply withdrawn. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 10:27, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting results from 'general' google search for plain "non-canonical": Science trumps religion. Searching books.google has similar results if we include Linguistics under Science. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:35, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe, for "non-canonical" in science contexts, but how can you justify "Non-canonical books", where all these fall away? Johnbod (talk) 16:40, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Why would I (or anyone) want to do that? You may as well just specify "non-canonical books of the Bible" and be done with it, since "of the Bible" maybe taken as read. Ah, ok, at which point I realise that I missed the thrust of your argument: the specific redirect in question is "non-canonical books", not "non-canonical" + "books". Hmmm, I think you have a valid point, which I accept. Another one bites the dust. Two down, one to go. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 18:40, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Many of the "Non-canonical books" are of great interest to Judaism too. I don't think the term is used at all in Hinduism. You have to twist definitions somewhat to say "The largest English speaking country in the world is India"! Indians form a significant part of our readership on the en:wp, but certainly not the largest group. Johnbod (talk) 20:19, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So we will bias the generic redirects on Wikipedia to favor IslamicJudeoChristianity above other concerns? As Indians form a significant portion of the readership, that is a very good reason why these redirects should not be biased towards Western Civilization and IslamicJudeoChristianity. "India" was an example used. "non-canonical books" (and similar terminology) are in entertainment, especially when part of a media franchise's corpus is decanonized by the Intellectual Propery Owner when moving forward with new major works. All generic redirects should be generic, and not implicit Christian/American/British redirects. -- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 20:28, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirects should serve the readers who encounter the redirected term. In the case of "Non-canonical books" this is almost certain to be someone reading a biblical or related article. Can you find any Indian topic where Non-canonical books is used as a redirect? I bet not. Johnbod (talk) 20:36, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirects should not favor one group of the readers over other groups of readers. If multiple topics on Wikipedia cover concepts of the terminology from different cultural/regional contexts, then no single region should be favored. "Non-canonical books" is not just the content of Non-canonical books referenced in the Bible and other IslamicJudeoChristian apocrypha. As you can see all over the entertainment sector, non-canonical books/literature/history, can refer to works of fiction in media franchises, or the literary canon of a culture. Fractality and Variability in Canonical and Non-Canonical English Fiction and in Non-Fictional Texts [4] [5][6] -- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 21:05, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So apart from the first, non-RS fan sites, none with anything to do with religions in India, so a red herring then. If at some future date any of those result in an actual article, we can revisit but right now their relevance is not obvious. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 22:56, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It is not a red herring, it is an example of an English speaking region that is not Christian or Judaic. We should keep in mind that the world is not solely IslamicJudeoChristian, and should never think that all redirects should default in this manner. If we are discussing canonical religious works of Indian religions versus non-canoncial works, we have all manner of such [7][8][9][10]; my examples were indicating that non-canonical books extends far beyond religion, entering works about fiction canon. -- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 04:06, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I asked for uses within Wikipedia, ie where a redirect might actually be used. I don't think there are any relating to Indian religions. Johnbod (talk) 04:20, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Canonical (disambiguation) should only link to articles containing the word 'canonical'. Canon (fiction), Western canon and equally Biblical canon, do not belong there and never did. The should only be listed under Canon (disambiguation). I will move Biblical canon now: if hard cases make bad law, then irrelevant cases make even worse law. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 22:56, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 01:34, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There appears to be less support for the nomination of retargetting to Canon (fiction), and while there is partial support for the Canonical disambiguation page for some redirects, there is opposition to it as well.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 05:15, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Procedural relist to allow the November 25 log page to be closed. It's worth mentioning that this discussion is still ongoing, and new suggestions have recently emerged after the second relist.
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Template:First Italo-Ethiopian War

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 23:44, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused redirect from 2007. Nothing uses this redirect. Platonk (talk) 05:39, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Ethnic groups in Ethiopia and the Ethiopian Diaspora

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 18:42, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A redirect remnant from a page move/rename. Nothing uses this redirect. Platonk (talk) 05:37, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Ethiopic redirects

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The result of the discussion was soft delete as unopposed. -- Tavix (talk) 18:48, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

1 of 5 similar redirects created on the same day in 2013 by a now-inactive user. None are used anywhere. (Ethiopic, Ethiopic Extended, Ethiopic Extended-A, Ethiopic Script, Ethiopic Supplement) Platonk (talk) 05:32, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Monika.chr

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Church of Martyrs

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Alpha Sigma Delta sorority

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Lambda Omega#Alpha Sigma Delta Sorority. -- Aervanath (talk) 07:43, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

originally nominated for speedy deletion by @Jax MN with the reason "There are now two virtually identical redirects for this dormant group. This one was made in error, as it skips a merger. The other redirect is preferable" FASTILY 02:31, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - Thank you all, sincerely, for taking the time on this. At base, a redirect would be helpful. But can you tell me, is there a function that allows redundant, multiple redirects to fall off of search results? This is a small, long-dormant sorority that merged, merged again, and merged again after that. It doesn't need to suck up all the space in the search field with redundant redirects, which actually work against our aim of clarity. As I can tell, now there are three redirects that ought to point to the correct target of Lambda_Omega#Alpha_Sigma_Delta_Sorority, if not all be merged into the first example. These are:
Should other articles be written, such as for these other groups we are tracking...:
  • Alpha Sigma Delta (fraternity) (local - Miller-Motte College), men's general
  • Alpha Sigma Delta (Oakwood) (local - Oakwood), Christian, African-American, women's religious d.
  • Alpha Sigma Delta (SUNY) (local - SUNY Brockport), women's general
...how do we ensure these won't be crowded out by the mistargeted and redundant redirects for the (sorority)? Thank you so much (Jay, Shhh and Yoris) for carefully considering what I've written here. Jax MN (talk) 16:26, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Madhulika Rawat

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Adrian Hipkiss

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay (talk) 04:16, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deletion of redirect that meets WP:RFD#D10. The redirect title is the name of an otherwise random/normal employee of the target company. The redirect (the named person) is otherwise not notable and the target article contains no information on the subject (the named person) whatsoever. An WP:EASTEREGG. Guliolopez (talk) 00:44, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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