March 26

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 26, 2024.

London (Disambiguation)

• London (Disambiguation) → London (disambiguation)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Contested WP:R3. This should be deleted per WP:RDAB. Nickps (talk) 23:05, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:RDAB and the consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 24#"Title (Disambiguation)" redirects to disambiguation pages. Search would take readers to London (disambiguation) if deleted anyway. The only way people would be affected is if they use direct URL navigation which is unlikely as most people are going to know DAB pages have a lower case qualifier. In terms of OTHERSTUFF/PANDORA I'd point out that there are no merits like being discussed on external websites or useful history etc that would make this one different to others. Redirects from WP qualifiers with incorrectly formatted redirects are generally not useful to readers but are an inconvenience to editors and create clutter. Crouch, Swale (talk) 23:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per the mega-RfD cited in the previous comment and numerous other precedents. These cases should really be eligible for speedy deletion even if not recent. Certes (talk) 23:23, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as yet another example of a useful and completely harmless ((R from other capitalisation)). Contrary to Crouch, Swale's evidence-free assertions the encyclopaedia gains nothing by deleting this other than making it harder for some readers to find what they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 23:24, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The mega-RfD linked above includes an extensive specific discussion of London (Disambiguation), which was used as an example even though it did not exist at the time. It contains plenty of evidence for and against the deletion of the then-hypothetical redirect. Certes (talk) 10:26, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  ...Wow, the nonexistent (at the time) redirect London (Disambiguation) was indeed discussed extensively in that discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 14:15, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  There was indeed extensive discussion, and absolutely none of it included evidence that convinced me that redirects of this nature were harmful or that the encyclopaedia would benefit from their deletion. In the absence of such evidence I will continue to oppose the deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 15:01, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  "...none of [the discussion] included evidence that convinced me..." I get that; my point there is that I've never seen such accurate WP:CRYSTAL discussion in regards to a redirect that had not been created yet. (I think I know what happened regarding this redirect, but since my thoughts go into a potential WP:AGF failure [not against you], I'm gonna leave it at that for now.) Steel1943 (talk) 16:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  If you really feel it would be helpful to readers to have such redirects why don't you just get consensus to create them all with a bot. Why do you oppose to deleting this redirect? What is different about this redirect than the numerous others that don't exist? Why do you think deleting this one is a bad idea but you don't appear to want to bother to get them mass created? Why do readers need a redirect here? Apart from the fact someone has bothered to create this one I can't see any merits that are different about this one. I can't see why readers benefit from a small arbitrary number of DABs having these redirects than inconvenience editors. If we did mass create them then the tools might get fixed to prevent them showing up as errors but with only a small number its probably not worth the trouble. Crouch, Swale (talk) 23:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  We really don't want the tools "fixed" to prevent links to London (Disambiguation) with a big D showing up as errors, because they are errors. WP:INTDAB recommends, in certain circumstances, links to Foo (disambiguation), not Foo (Disambiguation) nor Foo (discombobulation) nor any other variant. That's because it is not a qualifier in the normal sense like (footballer) or (film). It is a technical placeholder which is detected and handled specially by numerous pieces of software as well as editors who specialise in disambiguation. It's rather like a reserved word in a programming language. IF ... THEN ... ELSE works because the compiler or interpreter expects those keywords. If I decide my program would look prettier written with WHEN ... CONSEQUENTLY ... OTHERWISE instead, the computer is going to say No. Certes (talk) 00:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  We should always fix the tools to deal with the encyclopaedia as it exists for the benefit of the readers, and never degrade the user experience just to make it easier for tool authors/maintainers. I don't encourage the mass creation of pretty much any redirects, because that's not generally the best use of resources and it's usually very easy to cause problems (c.f. EU bot), however I generally don't oppose well thought out creations either. Redirects that are intentionally created demonstrate a utility for that redirect, sometimes that utility is not high enough to counter the problems (e.g. 2028 elections in India below), but that does not apply to (Disambiguation) redirects that lead to a relevant disambiguation page as they are (in almost all cases) completely harmless. Comparisons to programming languages are irrelevant as Wikipedia is not a programming language, and redirects like this exist for the benefit of readers not compilers. Thryduulf (talk) 01:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I agree readers come first but that only really applies if the redirect(s) is actually likely to be useful to them rather than being COSTLY. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:51, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The evidence of people going out of their way to create a redirect they want to use is evidence of it being useful - we automatically assume that other ((R from other capitalisation)) redirects are useful (because they are) and there isn't any difference between capitalising something inside and outside parentheses from a reader perspective. As for COSTLY, this is given way too much weight in general, but in this specific case there is no cost to readers and the only cost to editors comes because some people have arbitrarily decided that it is better to inconvenience readers than fix some their tools. So on balance, this redirect is not COSTLY. Thryduulf (talk) 11:51, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per precedence set at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 24#"Title (Disambiguation)" redirects to disambiguation pages. Steel1943 (talk) 23:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per the 2022 RfD. PamD 06:28, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per all of the precedent RfDs: general consensus is that these types of redirects are WP:RDAB errors and should therefore be deleted. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 12:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, this type of title provides no benefit to readers, and makes life harder for editors that will have to keep track of the history of twice as many titles, half of which being difficult to access. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 05:47, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Thryduulf: a harmless, WP:CHEAP ((r from other capitalisation)). Harmless + potentially useful = small net benefit ∴ don't delete. 🌺 Cremastra (talk) 13:44, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Exemplar Wikipedia:Redirects are costly#Some unneeded redirects. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Differential algebraic variety

• Differential algebraic variety → Algebraic variety  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target, and there does not seem to be a proper description of this anywhere. Maybe redirect to Differential algebra or Differential algebraic geometry (which claims that this is different from a diffiety)? Note that differential variety does not exist. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:44, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IMO, such a discussion should be better placed at WT:WPM, since the interested editors are necessarily participants to the wiki project mathematics. D.Lazard (talk) 08:44, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to diffiety. "Diffiety" is a portemanteau for "differential variety", and this is the only mentioned article that contains a definition of something that may be called a differential algebraic variety. D.Lazard (talk) 09:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2028 elections in India

• 2028 elections in India → Elections in India  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target, WP:TOOSOON Rusalkii (talk) 22:05, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete for now --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Asdrubael Vect

• Asdrubael Vect → Warhammer 40,000#Aeldari  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Does not seem to be mentioned at the target. Passing mention at Michael Kopsa. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:52, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Obscure character that even most Warhammer 40K fans wouldn't know. Not mentioned in article. Not a reasonable redirect. Canterbury Tail talk 23:44, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete one of my favorite assholes in the franchise but this is an obscure character out of universe. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feder-Vardi conjecture

Non-Western culture

• Non-Western culture → East–West dichotomy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Conflicted feelings about this one. Created initially pointing to cultural area, then changed to current target by Викидим. The current target defines "non-Western" culture in terms of its relationship with the west, and also excludes non-Eastern non-Western cultures, notably all of Africa and (depending on how you count) Latin America. The target also doesn't significantly cover culture. On the other hand, I can't think of a better target, and it's a commonly used term. Rusalkii (talk) 19:30, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My change was inspired by Western/Non-Western dichotomy (as defined by the Western culture) clearly present in the title, and the Non-West is (mis)labeled as East since at least Kipling: East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet. Africa, if mentioned specifically, IMHO is part of another, North-South divide. Викидим (talk) 20:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Primetime Bida

• Primetime Bida → List of Kapamilya Channel original programming#Drama  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target. Rusalkii (talk) 19:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete This was ABS-CBN's term for its evening primetime block and is not necessarily notable outside the company's marketing initiatives. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Waltair Productions

• Waltair Productions → Pareshan  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Production company involved in several other films (Double Engine (2024 film) and Rohit–Sasi mention it), not significantly discussed in article. Rusalkii (talk) 19:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Double Engine (2024 film), as thats their latest project, and the studio itself doesnt meet WP:Notability. Perhaps they can have an article of their own in near future.bɑʁɑqoxodaraP (talk) 07:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category of tangles

• Category of tangles → Tangle (mathematics)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Target article does not mention any category theory. There are passing mentions at Timeline of category theory and related mathematics and Timeline of manifolds. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and add a short section on the category of tangles. [1] is the top Google hit and there are other suitable sources that are easy to find. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Luxury home

• Luxury home → Real estate  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Luxury Home → Real estate  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Luxury homes → Category:Luxury real estate  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

After the merging of Luxury real estate into the general article, the redirect of "luxury home" does not appear to be super useful as it does not bear a mention at any location. Additionally, while the plural version may indicate "multiple homes" being sought, it doesn't seem specific enough to target something besides what the singular version does. Looking at these two options side by side in the search bar, it's a shot-in-the-dark for readers to figure out where each'll go. Perhaps there's a better alternative, because neither status quo seems necessary currently. (I'll mention that "luxury homes" was repointed to the category in 2020 by a user later blocked for NOTHERE). Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:55, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Is the "merge", then, a back-door delete? I've seen this done before, deliberately or accidentally. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:51, 12 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]
  
  • It wasn't a merge; it was redirected as a result of AfD (though I don't actually see any policy-based reasoning in that discussion). --Paul_012 (talk) 09:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rich Farmbrough: Thanks for the catch! To clarify, were you referring to the merge of luxury real estate, or luxury home? As this only concerns the "home" titles, there shouldn't be any issue that loses the luxury real estate history, and wouldn't be a backdoor delete of that, unless there was something else that you were referring to. The other title of Luxury Home had a miniscule existence before becoming a "Luxury real estate" redirect, although admittedly I did not catch that in my first go with this nom (I was mainly looking at the lowercase two, and then bundled the uppercase once I realized it existed). Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:19, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Restore and renomenate Luxury real estate? Paul is right in that I don't see much policy-based reasoning, either-- the nominator's only given argument was that Luxury hotel was a redirect to hotel, and he got one WP:PERNOM, and one vote that mentioned the idea of adding a section to Real estate discussing luxury real estate, which... wasn't done, before it was closed with only those two votes. No consideration seemed to be given to the actual article, which... seemed pretty okay, at least to my eyes? (Also, since we're technically here to discuss Luxury home, Luxury Home, and Luxury homes, target all three back to Luxury real estate when it gets restored.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 09:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  If you want to overturn the result of an AfD you need to nominate it at WP:DRV. Thryduulf (talk) 11:44, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep first two, and retarget Luxury homes to Real estate for now (reverting the 2020 change by a now-blocked user). Also tag it as an avoided double redirect to Luxury real estate (as I have done for the first two). Whatever action is pursued regarding the former article (usually the case should be raised with the closing admin before going to DRV), this should help ensure that the redirects are taken care of should it be restored. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:05, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I would've enjoyed being told that before I nominated it a c k, I currently feel like I would like the floor to swallow me up 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 14:13, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Would you consider restoring Luxury real estate? Jay 💬 17:04, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  No; there is an active deletion review ongoing on redirect which hasn't concluded yet and seems to be tepid about restoring the page. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:14, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  oops! I was not aware. Although I now notice what Lunamann's small text was trying to say. Will wait for the DRV to conclude. Jay 💬 17:36, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Restoration of the previous target - Luxury real estate, may not be an option per the recently concluded DRV. We have so far only one vote suggesting targetting all to Real estate "for now" probably pending the discussion of Luxury real estate, but with that now out of the way, we can re-view this RfD.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 18:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sahrang

• Sahrang → Flag of Iran  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

"Sahrang" has no mention at the target article, and the three mentions it has on Wikipedia are within the same citation used three times, not related to Iran. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:13, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Back when the redirect was created, the article did list that "sahrang" (Persian for 'tricolor') was an alternate name for the flag. This was changed in January of this year, and now simply states that Tricolor (not the Persian word, the English word, which is a little odd to me considering this is literally Iran, aka Persia, we're talking about) is the alternate name of the flag. Gonna attempt to flag down the editor who made that change, maybe they have some input here... 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 06:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Filtered ring

• Filtered ring → Filtered algebra  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not actually mentioned at target (which only describes the case of algebras over a field), and IMO Filtration_(mathematics)#Rings_and_modules:_descending_filtrations is a better target. The compatibility with multiplication is often not required. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:52, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment there's also ring filter, a filtered ring in the literal sense -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 22:00, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ABMOD

• ABMOD → Richie Williams  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned anywhere. 1234qwer1234qwer4 16:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget all to the DAB as per nom. W h a t ? ? ? How did THAT get translated there?? Delete as per nom. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:38, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concur with Delete - this was a common discussion board nickname in his playing days (ankle biting midget of death). Now outdated. Xsmith (talk) 18:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete unless a mention is added. I have no opinion whether one should be added, just that more than 30 seconds on google is needed to make that decision. Thryduulf (talk) 18:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Seems to be the title of several companies according to GSearch. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:29, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Translation (mathematics)

• Translation (mathematics) → Translation (geometry)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Translation (math) → Translation (geometry)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Translation (maths) → Translation (geometry)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Translation (disambiguation)#Mathematics seems like a more appropriate target; the meaning in group theory is pretty common as well. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:03, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget all to the DAB as per nom. (Let's try to do this correctly, this time.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:40, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chord (math)

• Chord (math) → Chord (geometry)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is also Chord (graph theory). Wherever this will redirect, Chord (mathematics) should be created as well once this discussion is closed. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dabify, I don't think either of these could lay claim as to being primary target. As per WP:NOPRIMARY that means we should dabify, even if we only have two potential entries in the DAB. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 14:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In that case just redirect to Chord (disambiguation) as ((R from incomplete disambiguation)). I forgot to mention this in the nomination; this was actually intended to be the alternative to the current situation. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd support this, for the record. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 14:31, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Chord (disambiguation) per above. Thryduulf (talk) 15:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose [edit: was "Support"], Chord (geometry) is very obviously the primary meaning, from which these later meanings are derived. –jacobolus (t) 20:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  What exactly are you supporting? 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:13, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Sorry, I got confused about what was being proposed. The current target is good, and retargeting to the DAB page would be moderately worse. –jacobolus (t) 21:31, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merger Regulation 2004

• Merger Regulation 2004 → European Union merger law  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The European Union merger law does not seem to be referred to as "merger regulation 2004", as the full title (including 2004) does not appear at the target, although "merger regulation" does. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:42, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 12:59, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep there are lots of reliable sources using this exact phrase and all of them refer to the target, including The Implementation of the European Commission's Merger Regulation 2004: An Empirical Analysis, a widely-cited paper. Additionally there are many more using very similar phrasing meaning this is a very plausible search term. Thryduulf (talk) 15:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Between Greetings

• Between Greetings → List of programs broadcast by Seoul Broadcasting System  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A potential program not listed at the list of programs. No mention of "Between Greetings" anywhere on Wikipedia. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A Bridge of Words

• A Bridge of Words → Hiroaki Sato (translator)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is a book anthology that does not appear, nor is it ever alluded to at the target translator's article. It's currently linked via a hatnote on the Bridge of Words article as the only incoming link to this redirect. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 02:47, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Geydar Ilkhamovich Aliyev

• Geydar Ilkhamovich Aliyev → Heydar Aliyev Jr.  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Was at this title for about a day. This is a Russianization of the name which as far as I can tell is not used anywhere; Google gives zero hits for this form. I have been able to find one instance of "Heydar Ilkhamovich", used by a commenter on a newspaper article. Rusalkii (talk) 23:32, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cinebooks

• Cinebooks → Cinebook  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• CineBooks → Cinebook  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

These redirects to Cinebook (a British publishing company founded in 2005) were created by Tajotep in 2017; however, as can be seen in Special:WhatLinksHere/Cinebooks, most (or all?; e.g., at Romance of a Horsethief) of the links are incorrect, referring to Cinebooks/CineBooks, an American company that published The Motion Picture Guide in 1985. J3133 (talk) 06:18, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, we don't have any information on Cinebooks/CineBooks (American comany). If they had an article to point to, I'd recommend hatnoting the two against each other. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 08:33, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lunamann: I only support keeping if all of the incorrect links that currently point to the British company are removed, or changed to different (red) links if a future article is planned for the American company. J3133 (talk) 10:16, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no, I don't think those links should stay. That said, I don't think it should point right here-- these links are a bit too close to the name of the existing article on Cinebook (UK). They need to be removed, or WP:BOLDly WP:REDYES'd, all to the same target, with that target having a disambiguator. CineBooks (American company) perhaps? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 11:47, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Since this redirect is in plural form, is it really a common way to refer to the target? Especially given the existence of the other company. I would suspect someone searching "Cinebooks" is more likely looking for information on the American company than the British one which uses the singular form. D2 and D10 seem to apply here. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:15, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The issue I find with simply outright deleting is that the names are still so similar that I could easily see this issue continuing to occur without SOME sort of explanation. ...Is there precedent for a redlink hatnote?? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:06, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Ecological rehabilitation

• Ecological rehabilitation → Land rehabilitation  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The word "ecological" is not present in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target potentially unclear. In addition, the article Land reclamation seems somewhat indistinguishable from the target article's subject, meaning that even if the redirect somewhat could refer to its current target article, there may still be potential confusion since Land reclamation is a separate article. Steel1943 (talk) 05:17, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feebly nteracting particle

Avanturine glance

• Avanturine glance → Plagioclase  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No clue where this one comes from, not used anywhere in or out of Wikipedia. The possible proper spelling "Aventurine glass" contains way too many differences. Викидим (talk) 03:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• «Авантюриновый блеск (avanturine glance) = кислый плагиоклаз» <avanturine glance = sour Plagioclase> (Krivovichev V. G. Mineralogical glossary. Scientific editor A. G. Bulakh. — St.Petersburg: St.Petersburg Univ. Publ. House. 2009. — 556 p.^{: page 11}) --Namesnik (talk) 11:13, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I am not an expert, but I do not think that A.g. term exists in English. Someone, somewhere, would have used it in a way for Google to pick it up. It is easy, for example, to find sources for "sour Plagioclase". Perhaps, a typo, or mis-translation in this particular book? Викидим (talk) 06:13, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Well then there must be two typos, or rather, at least twenty. The fact is that two dictionary entries are devoted to avanturine glance. This reference book has a separate section devoted to the translation of foreign names of minerals («List of foreign names of minerals», mainly English and German). And there is this mineral there too (only in English, without the German version): «Avanturine glance = авантюриновый блеск» (ibid., ^{: page 440}). The form of the word «avanturine» is noteworthy. We are probably talking about texts from the 18th and 19th centuries. --Namesnik (talk) 10:59, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First Loser

• First Loser → Ranking  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The term is not used in the redirect target (there are no "losers" there. Neiter it occurs in subtopic article Standings (sports). An article is possible (ethics and psychiatry of sports), so WP:R#DELETE #10 Викидим (talk) 03:17, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. My best guess is that this redirect is intended to be a ((R avoided double redirect)) to Second place or intended to target some topic at Last place, but even then, this redirect is confusing due to being ambiguous in nature. Steel1943 (talk) 05:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, it's a synonym for second place. See wikt:first loser. - Eureka Lott 06:01, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  To the best of my knowledge, the idiom is not as much about putting down the silver medalist, as it is a way to say that in sports the winner takes almost all of the tangible rewards (unlike the case in many other professions). Definitely has nothing to do with ranking, and I do not think that 2nd place would be a good equivalent either. It is not hard to find the expression in serious works in the fields of ethics ("winning at all costs") and psychiatry (effects of losing), but I did not find anything with deep enough coverage for a separate article. Soft redirect to wiktionary is possible, but why do we need it? Викидим (talk) 08:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ubufox

• Ubufox → Ubuntu  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Redirect term is not used at target article (it's an obscure Firefox config, and Firefox is only mentioned once, briefly). StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 03:04, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

rm ubufox: After some digging, it turns out that in September 2008, a chunk of the Ubuntu article was forked out into Ubuntu version history-- and the only mention of Ubufox in the entire article went with it. However, while the reference to Ubufox is still intact in its 2008-era entirety in Ubuntu version history, it's no more than a namedrop, nowhere near enough to support the redirect. Delete! 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 08:50, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mighty Liberators Drum and Bugles Corps

• Mighty Liberators Drum and Bugles Corps → List of defunct Drum Corps International member corps#Mighty Liberators Drum and Bugle Corps  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Nothing at redirect target corresponds to this topic. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:08, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See also: Mighty Liberators Drum and Bugle Corps. I support a Delete for both. Why? I Ask (talk) 03:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I didn’t even see that one. Yes, it should be deleted, too. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bagiennik

• Bagiennik → List of Slavic deities  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is not a Slavic deity, or any deity. This is a fictional character that is totally not notable. Redirect is senseless, WP:R#DELETE #5 Викидим (talk) 01:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 02:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Can't find reliable sources for "Bagiennik" anywhere online. 〜 Askarion ✉ 17:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 12:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cring

• Cring → Commutative ring  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is also the last name Jon Russell Cring and apparently Crîng park. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like it could be Dabified? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 02:40, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Might as well mention Category of commutative rings in that case, since I actually found this redirect while trying to see whether its other capitalisation CRing exists.) 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:13, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Disambiguate Aside from Cring, CRing, cring; there is also cRing, a fictional element from Cartoon Orbit; Tobiah Cring, a ship on the List of shipwrecks in November 1870; C-rings, carbon rings -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 03:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Noting also that there appears to be the C Ring of Saturn (not sure whether that redirect should be retargeted once the disambiguation page is created, considering the similar term in chemistry). 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:01, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Dabify per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• disambig per above, I've put together Draft:Cring Rusalkii (talk) 20:12, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disambig per above. also probably should be noted that cring is also an ironic misspelling of cringe Okmrman (talk) 04:51, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Punctured plane

• Punctured plane → Glossary of topology  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This used to be an avoided double redirect to Punctured neighbourhood, which used to redirect to this glossary (though has since been retargeted). However, this is not really conceptually related to punctured neighbourhoods. One place where this is described is Scheme (mathematics)#Examples, though there might be similar content portraying this topic from some other mathematical field's POV. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:47, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• REDIRECT I would have expected this to be a redirect to Puncture (topology), or perhaps to Complex plane (in the context of meromorphic functions), both of which I would prefer to the current situation. Redirecting to the top of a glossary page doesn't help the reader much, I think. Tea2min (talk) 11:39, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  One might also consider redirecting this to the disambiguation page for Punctured, which may be expanded with additional uses in mathematics. Redirecting to the complex plane seems like a good idea for something like punctured complex plane, but the current title can refer to planes over other fields as well. Note that there are also the Punctured set and Punctured surface redirects. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Out of context, "Punctured set" does not seem to mean anything useful. And it does not even appear in the Glossary of topology. I would delete that redirect. PatrickR2 (talk) 05:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]