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Various Cape Cod S-line templates

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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY 02:27, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

S-line templates for the Cape Cod and Hyannis Railroad, Cape Cod Central Railroad, and Amtrak's Cape Codder. Replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/Cape Cod and Hyannis Railroad, Module:Adjacent stations/Cape Cod Central Railroad, and Module:Adjacent stations/Amtrak. All transclusions replaced. Mackensen (talk) 22:40, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:04, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. NPASR if a different rationale is used. Primefac (talk) 19:56, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:04, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navbox. WP:NENAN Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:23, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:04, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navbox with only 2 links. WP:NENAN. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:23, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Omani League

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Borgarde has added it to multiple articles. No reason to delete now. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:13, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

unused navbox Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:23, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused navbox that violates WP:EXISTING Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:22, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused navbox with mostly redlinks. Violates WP:EXISTING Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:22, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused navbox. WP:NENAN Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:21, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 March 21. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 01:34, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 March 21. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 09:47, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:04, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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unused subpage that seems to be replaced by /sandbox Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:19, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 March 24. Primefac (talk) 14:36, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:04, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

unused navbox with only redlinks. Violates WP:EXISTING Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:18, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:04, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:04, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navbox with mostly redlinks and plaintext. Violates WP:EXISTING Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:18, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:04, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. The template was renamed to Template:Hapur district among other things. (non-admin closure) –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 22:52, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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unused navbox with only redlinks. Violates WP:EXISTING Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:17, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:04, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 01:34, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

unused navbox that violates WP:ACCESS Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:16, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:04, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Boston Surface Railroad S-line templates

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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY 02:26, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/Boston Surface Railroad. All transclusions updated. Mackensen (talk) 15:42, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 March 9. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:01, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 March 9. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:01, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Trillium Line route diagram detailed

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. From the discussion, it appears that this template (or at least its content) are (or could be) useful, and the debate is really about whether said content should be "properly" transcluded (not linked) or merged/integrated into a different location. On this front no one seems to agree; a wider audience may be required to make that decision. Primefac (talk) 14:42, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ununsed template, no reason to keep it around. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:54, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Template:Trillium Line route diagram. Useddenim (talk) 19:02, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The template is not unused, it is linked to from the less detailed template. I think this is an appropriate setup and the template should not be deleted or merged. BLAIXX 00:34, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Blaixx: where are you seeing that the template is used? this clearly shows that it isn't... --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:27, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That shows it is not transcluded, but it is linked to from Trillium Line: Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Trillium Line route diagram detailed. —Kusma (t·c) 20:24, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Kusma: that fact that it is linked is not relevant. The template is not used on any pages. If you want to use the content, then it should be transcluded on a page. Templates are meant for reuse, not to be linked to as stand alone pages. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:10, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that it is not transcluded is not relevant, seeing that the template is being employed in a useful fashion, supplementing an article. —Kusma (t·c) 18:32, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Blaixx. —Kusma (t·c) 20:24, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Blaixx. Mackensen (talk) 00:30, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Kusma and Mackensen: your !votes to keep neglect to actually address the point that the template is not used. LINKING to a template is not a valid use of a template. Templates are meant to be transcluded, not linked to as standalone pages. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:11, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the template is arguably main space content masquerading as a template. It's fulfilling a useful function in that respect, how would you suggest handling this differently without degrading the user experience? Mackensen (talk) 18:27, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)@Zackmann08: I disagree with your unproven assertion that this is "not a valid use". It may not be documented anywhere, but having diagrams in template space instead of article space has been a traditional and widely accepted practice for a long time. The information is not in article space because it is not an article, and we no longer have article subpages. It is not in file space because it is editable. It is in template space because it is similar to Template:Trillium Line route diagram. Some templates are useful as standalone pages, and there is nothing wrong with that. Deleting this template deletes useful information for no benefit. —Kusma (t·c) 18:29, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)@Zackmann08: Forget about WP:DONTGETIT. The template has valid content and is not “Unused”. It's perfectly acceptable for route diagrams to link to a more-detailed sub-diagrams, just as there's no prohibition against stand-alone templates: see Template:East Coast Main Line diagram, for example (or are you now going to nominate that for deletion, too?). Useddenim (talk) 18:48, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Gonnym: And where is the directive that says that? Useddenim (talk) 01:03, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It is not used as a link that replaces an article. It is a diagram. We would not delete a diagram in file space if it is linked to from an article. This diagram has the advantage of being editable and including wikilinks, much better than an equivalent-looking SVG. —Kusma (t·c) 08:07, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It actually is used as a link, which for any unknowing reader (and to most editors) would seem like a link to an article. There is a blue text link that leads to this diagram. I would have no issue with this diagram if it were actually placed on that article, but this is not the case. --Gonnym (talk) 17:35, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
WP:IDL is not a valid argument. Useddenim (talk)
Wasn't my argument so please don't put words in my mouth, also essays mean nothing, so don't bring them up. --Gonnym (talk) 22:59, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hhkohh (talk) 06:39, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was no consensus for outright deletion, consensus for a wrapper. There are several arguments being made on both sides of this discussion, some more relevant than others (listed below).

Taking the above into consideration, there are about even numbers for keeping and deleting, with (oddly enough) about half of each camp stating that a wrapper might be an acceptable compromise. Since converting to a wrapper is fairly close to a "true merge" (i.e. converting to a redirect after merging any missing params), this swings the overall consensus in that direction. Per my standard suggestion for large/complex cases such as this one, I encourage both sides of the debate to discuss the implementation of the wrapper creation on the talk page in order to ensure that everything important is included in the final product. Primefac (talk) 14:53, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Replace with ((Infobox settlement)). At the very least this should be converted to a wrapper template. Yes this was previously nominated 10 years ago, but lots has changed since then. Additionally, it is not likely that there will be any new US states so shouldn't need to be maintained on new pages. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:42, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hhkohh (talk) 01:38, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
495 765 transclusions of Infobox settlement in article space.
410 349 / 82.77 % directly and 85 416 / 17.23 % via wrapper.
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Template:Metadata Population BE

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was no consensus with a lean towards keeping (6 to 3 for keep with the opposition making valid points). There is NPASR if the RFC on storing template data determines that these sorts of templates should not be used. Primefac (talk) 20:02, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not a valid way to store data. The population should either be directly placed on the page or stored in WikiData. Not maintained in this sort of template. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:18, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's the same for Destatis as for Statistik Thüringen [4] "Vervielfältigung und Verbreitung, auch auszugsweise, mit Quellenangabe gestattet". --Septembermorgen (talk) 20:36, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding maintained – compare population data for North Rhine-Westphalia:
  • from ((Metadata Population DE-NW)): 17,924,591 (31 December 2021)
  • from Wikidata: 17,932,651 (31 December 2018)
-- Michael Bednarek (talk) 16:19, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's what happens when a community maintains data in multiple venues - they get out-of-sync. Far better to maintain data in one place, and transclude it as required. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:00, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hhkohh (talk) 01:35, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Would you please point to the Wikidata entity where these numbers are now stored, and advise a method how to extract them for individual invocations of location templates, similar to the current treatment in e.g. ((Infobox German location))? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:21, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose copying the population data to wikidata would work for now (it would be nice if someone would show how to pick the most recent data from wikidata, including year and reference), but who is going to update the populations in wikidata in 6-7 months from now, when the December 2018 data will be available? The German templates are updated by @Septembermorgen: and @NordNordWest: (and maybe others), are they willing to update wikidata every year as well? The main benefit of these templates IMO is that it’s very easy to update the data every year. I think it’s absurd to delete a fine working system without offering an alternative solution for that. Markussep Talk 06:57, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Michael Bednarek: Population statistics are stored in the individual pages of each city/town (for instance, Frankfurt (Q1794). As for how to retrieve them, see the wikicode of this example: Population of Frankfurt (as of 2022-12-31): 773,068.[1] I implemented a similar system for ((Infobox Swiss town)) and ((Infobox Russian inhabited locality)), and they seem to work well, naturally enough only if the figures for all towns are kept up to date. I want to emphasize that until the updated figures are uploaded to WD, the current metatemplates should not be deleted.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 10:51, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As Septembermorgen mentioned above: There is a licence problem. I won't update at Wikidata. NNW (talk) 11:15, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Is licensing the actual issue here? If so, when uploading just use publisher (P123) -> Thuringian State Office for Statistics (Q18119617), reference URL (P854) -> https://statistik.thueringen.de/. This takes care of the attribution issue, and is good practice anyway.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:39, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So there is no central database on Wikidata for all municipalities in the German states? Who would ever updates hundreds (thousands?) of data points? The current scheme allows for swift bulk updates from one Wikipedia language to others. No wonder the number above for Frankfurt is out of date, unlike the articles in DE and EN. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:12, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"there is no central database on Wikidata " Wikidata is a database; as I told you in this very thread, on 23 February. It includes data on all municipalities in the German states, and much more besides. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:38, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't express my concern clearly enough. A database that consists of a single file (template) that can be updated from the published data by simple cut/paste is much easier easier to maintain than Wikidata where the value for each municipality must be added to that municipality's entry. That's what I meant by "single database", as opposed to atomic data points spread across hundreds of entries. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:34, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You still copy-paste a single file, the difference is that instead of pasting it into an en.wiki template you paste it into QuickStatements, where it is made available to all Wiki projects. There are some valid concerns about using Wikidata, but the ease of updating figures isn't really one of them.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:44, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It is. Adding P123 would mean that I know the source but Wikidata's CC-0 allows to ignore it completely. That's not the way how it works. NNW (talk) 12:13, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Michael Bednarek: I'm uploading the population figures for Belgian municipalities right now. It doesn't take very long, if there is a unique identifier for the administrative divisions (such as NIS/INS code (P1567) for Belgium), I tried to explain the process on this page. But if there isn't (and I couldn't find one for Turkey so far) that's a whole different story.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:42, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The methods you describe are above my pay grade; I prefer KISS. Further, the <ref>...</ref> generated are bare and not in line with best practice formatting of references. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:34, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Alle politisch selbständigen Gemeinden mit ausgewählten Merkmalen am 31.12.2022 (in German), Federal Statistical Office of Germany, 21 September 2023, Wikidata Q122987347, archived from the original on 7 October 2023, retrieved 7 October 2023
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