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Thanks to all who started related cleanup in various discussions above. Here are some of my proposals. For context: US has currently 114 articles in history by region. The entire Europe has 112 and Asia, 84. No quotes exist to enforce, but IMHO the US bias in those numbers is pretty obvious. Since the history section is at quota, more or less, I think we should remove ~25-50 articles from the US section and use the space to add "other" history stuff. Not opposed to some swaps, there are probably some US history topics we should have but missed, time will tell. Anyway, individual proposals are below, but I think we should cut most of the articles from 'Colonial' US history (again, most countries don't even have such periodization, heck, other countries don't even get 25 entries total, although categorization splits make such comparisons iffy as we know). I'd keep 5 the entries with most interwikis - Colonial history of the United States 5, Plymouth Colony 5, Pilgrims (Plymouth Colony) 5, Roanoke Colony 5 and Thirteen Colonies 5 - and that's it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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~30 years of history; this is effectively a small part of the history of New Haven, Connecticut and in related discussions above (#Balance of History by city) we are considering removal of histories of much more prominent cities. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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~40 years of history predating the split into South and North Carolina. We already have History of South Carolina 5 and History of North Carolina 5 (and I am not sure most US states really need such regional history). This one is surely too much, particularly if we are keeping the others two (for now?). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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This entity existed for just ~3 or 4 years. Historical trivia, not vital. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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70 years or so, almost 30 interwikis, but why is this vital? Maybe keep if we remove Province of Massachusetts Bay 5 as suggested below, but overall, I think this is not vital (regional history). Redundant to History of Massachusetts 5. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
In response to "why is this vital?", I guess I gotta get on my teacher soapbox again. The history and culture of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, particularly the "city upon a hill" mantra, has been co-opted into the myth of the United States writ large. That's not necessarily enough to justify this at VA5, but y'all need to know that. pbp 05:32, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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Thirteen Colonies 5 is just V5. Unless we agree it is a V4, why list the individual entries: # Connecticut Colony, # Delaware Colony, # Province of Georgia, # Province of Maryland, # Province of Massachusetts Bay, # Province of New Hampshire, # Province of New Jersey, # Province of New York, # Province of North Carolina, # Province of Pennsylvania, # Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, # Province of South Carolina, # Colony of Virginia. Do note that those are are reundand to V5 histories of individual states we currently list at V5 (ex. Connecticut Colony to History of Connecticut 5, etc.) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:31, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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If we're discussing removing the 13 colonies, we should discuss this as well. This is something that Piotrus would call "U.S. trivia". While it was the first British colony in what is now the United States, it lasted five years or less and was abandoned. pbp 04:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
I did not list this one on purpose: 33 interwikis beats most other entries here, plus Roanoke_Colony#In_popular_culture. It may not be historically important, but culturally, it beats most others IMHO. For now I will be neutral here (and I note lack of support as nom as well?). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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One of the most watched TV events of all time. Interstellarity (talk) 01:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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Polish-Soviet War is V4, but only one battle is listed for it at V5. Kiev offensive (1920) is arguably a very important part of the war (it is one of the operations listed in the lead of that war, the other is the already V5 Battle of Warsaw (1920). If it succeeded, the world history might look very different... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:48, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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While its death toll has been contested by more recent estimates, it is the first episode of the first plague pandemic. Its disruption on the Eastern Roman Empire led to shifts of power in the Near East that would ultimately shape the following centuries.
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These ten articles do not have many interwikis and are not vital enough subtopics of History of the United States 4. The only other articles like this that we have are for modern-day India and occupied Poland. These slots would be better used for ten different topics than a ten-part timeline.
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See above. Here: estimated average death tall at 70k. Interwiki count: 7. Daily pageviews: 100--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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Regional history with just 5 interwikis. We don't list other articles like that for other countries, nor for the US (many don't exist yet, they should but that's not our problem). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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Suggested as vital in a discussion a while ago by User:Kammerer55. 35 interwikis, almost 400 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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Some stuff I noticed a while ago as while looking at not vital 20th century concepts from Template:Genocide sidebar (still need to check the more historical entries). We list many similar tragedies and even events where nobody died (see ongoing #Remove Expulsion of the Chagossians above). Here: estimated average death tall at 250k. Interwiki count: 13. Daily pageviews: 375 --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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See above. Here: estimated average death tall at 200k. Interwiki count: just 3 (sysbias...). Daily pageviews: 120.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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See above. Here: estimated average death tall at 10k. Interwiki count: 12. Daily pageviews: 220--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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See above. Here: estimated average death tall at 75k. Interwiki count: 9. Daily pageviews: 450--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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See above. Here: estimated average death tall at 200k. Interwiki count: 12. Daily pageviews: 350. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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One of the more significant demographic trends. Large portions of American social history 1945-present have been in response to the Baby Boom. Balanced out by several removals below pbp 17:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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We have the Rust Belt but not the Sunbelt. Possibly could be added under geography, in which case Rust Belt should also be moved pbp 17:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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The USMCA was an updating of the NAFA pbp 17:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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We already have the Kennedy family pbp 17:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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We already have the related topic Black Lives Matter pbp 17:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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Seriously, WHAT? I don’t see how this has any impact on the greater history of the world. Only 7 interwikis. pbp 17:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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Sensationalist crime. No greater impact on American or world history and wouldn’t be included if it happened elsewhere. 17 interwikis ain’t that much for something that hinges on popularity to get on this list. pbp 17:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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Sensationalist crime. No greater impact on American or world history and wouldn’t be included if it happened elsewhere. FOUR interwikis. FOUR. pbp 17:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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We don’t need every sensationalist crime. For being a sensationalist crime, it only has 14 interwikis. We already have Charles Manson at VA5 pbp 17:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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I’m just not a fan of stuff like this being considered vital, tbh. How did this impact anybody other than the Davidians and the ATF guys who were killed? pbp 17:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Related to this topic, I have proposed that Neo-Nazism be vital at VA5 pbp 16:21, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
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Major part of modern/WW2 Balkan history. 41 interwikis, ~700 daily views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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Similar to the above. We list Soviet partisans 5. 40 interwikis, ~500 daily views. "he Partisans are considered to be Europe's most effective anti-Axis resistance movement during World War II", also AFAIK contenders for the largest resistance force (different soruces name them, Soviets, Chinese or Poles as such). Note that proposal to add Resistance during World War II 5 is still ongoing somewhere elsewhere on this page, sigh - please consider commenting there. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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Battle fought between the Portuguese Empire 4 versus Mamluk Sultanate 5 and other Muslim kingdoms and empires with support of the Ottoman Empire and the Republic of Venice as well. The Portuguese victory was crucial, allowing a shift of power in the Indian Ocean to the Portuguese that led them to control several other important posts such as Goa 5, Malacca 5, Ormus, etc. This was important for the increase of trade between Europe and Asia, both gastronomically, culturally and techonologically. The Blue Rider 21:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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Similar to the above. We list Soviet partisans 5, I suggestsed Yugoslav above. Better choice then parent Polish resistance movement in World War II since HA represented ~90% of that umbrella concept. HA has 46 interwikis and 250 daily views, Polish resistance just 19 and 200. From the HA artcile (that, disclaimer, I was a major contributor to): "along with Soviet and Yugoslav partisans, one of Europe's largest World War II underground movements". --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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We list Confederate States at level 4, but not this article at level 3. It is of top importance when it comes to American Civil War stuff and on par of importance with the Confederacy. Interstellarity (talk) 02:14, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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While this one does have historical importance, Estonia is massively overrepresented for a country of 1.3 million. It has three cities, which is equal to that of Uganda, one of over 49 million. Even OECD-speaking, the commonly-discussed United States only has one city/2.27m residents and many missing emerging cities. Vileplume (talk) 22:30, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
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Reproposing this after my original proposal got deleted. Especially when Aussie only has 14 cities and NZ only has 3, I'm not convinced Fiji needs two, with its population of under a million. Other than it having the largest Hindu temple in the Southern Hemisphere, its importance is mostly regional. Vileplume (talk) 23:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
Pinging @Feminist: and @J947: as participants in the original discussion. Vileplume (talk) 23:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
As I said in the old discussion, Nadi should probably be removed but I feel like I should go for bat for it here. Fiji is big for a Pacific nation – having almost a million inhabitants – and is better represented by cities than islands. As for Nadi in particular, it has Fiji's main airport and is thus the tourist centre and is apparently also a cultural centre for Fiji Hindi / Indo-Fijians. Decently important.
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It's primarily known as a beach resort for Canadians, with a small population. Not vital imo.
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Inca Empire 3 is VA3 and History of Peru 4 is VA4, although the latter should arguably be VA5. The Incas were very important for a lot of modern history, and at one point their empire was the biggest country in the world. Should at least be VA5.
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This has been previously suggested for addition. It seems significant not just for Europe but for world history. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 01:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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We currently list the five regions of Singapore at VA5. However, according to our Administrative divisions of Singapore article, Singapore is governed as a unitary state without provinces or states.
Per our Regions of Singapore article, The regions of Singapore are urban planning subdivisions demarcated by the Urban Redevelopment Authority of Singapore to aid in its planning efforts.
... While used by some governmental organizations, these regions are not administrative subdivisions.
I'm not convinced that these regions are that important.
If we are to list parts of Singapore at VA5 (which is reasonable for a country with 5.9M population), it would be islands. Singapore Island is the main part of the country; Jurong Island is the largest island after the mainland; and Sentosa is a major tourist resort (for comparison, we don't currently list any Asian locations under Recreation and tourism).
In this discussion, there was a clear consensus that either Longyearbyen 5 or Spitsbergen 5 should be removed, but no consensus between the two. feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 06:59, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Notable features of the region include the Pentagon, headquarters of the United States Department of Defense, the Central Intelligence Agency, the United States Patent and Trademark Office, and the many companies, including several major aerospace manufacturing, defense industry, and consulting firms, which serve them and the rest of the U.S. federal government.
One of the most economically productive areas of the US, with a population of more than 3 million people. I would support the removal of several US cities for the addition of major conurbations.
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Wilmington is a suburb of Philadelphia in the Delaware Valley. There doesn't seem to be a lot that makes the city vital in its own right other than being the largest city in Delaware, and since Delaware is the sixth least populous state, I think it is fine to have Delaware with no cities on the list. Interstellarity (talk) 19:32, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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Libya is horrendously overrepresented and these are its two smallest cities that are on the list. Vileplume (talk) 19:06, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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The oldest Uruguayan city, founded by the Portuguese, stands as a testament to a rich history. Throughout the years, it was controlled by Portugal, Spain, the Federal League, Brazil, and ultimately, Uruguay, due to its strategic placement near the Rio de la Plata, becoming an important international trade post. Its old town was recognized as a UNESCO World Heritage site. The Blue Rider 23:57, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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Relatively low population compared to other Japanese cities (never exceeded 250k) and is neither the capital nor the largest city of its prefecture.
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Europe's largest purpose-built business district, and a major part of Paris 3.
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The people of this town picked where the Prime Meridian went and what Universal Time is pbp 14:53, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Greenwich (technically the borough Royal Borough of Greenwich not the town) has applied to have city status more than once, but has never received it, most recently locations such as Wrexham and Milton Keynes did get city status meaning whoever makes that decision didn't think Greenwich was important enough, I believe it being a suburb of London and not being independent as such was a factor. Population and economically wise, Greenwich is less significant than other London suburbs. The London Plan for example highlights towns/suburbs Bromley and Croydon as the most important in southeast London. Other places smaller than Bromley like Lewisham, Catford, Eltham, Bexleyheath and Orpington are rated more significant than Greenwich according to the London Plan which only places it among places like Sidcup, Lee Green and Welling. Might be a bit harsh, culturally it feels more important having World Heritage Sites contained within it. Without The Prime Meridian and GMT already listed, there's a few museums linked to time or maritime, but perhaps not really much in the way of international vitalness separate from London. Carlwev 15:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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If we’re cutting U.S. state capitals, we can certainly cut these as well. Metro populations of 31.9k and 20.3k respectively. The removal of Anadyr (town) passed 5-0, so I think these can pass as well. Vileplume (talk) 18:09, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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The Mexican cities list overrepresents localities within its largest three metro areas. These cities have grown rapidly in the past few decades, but I hardly see what makes them vital. On the other hand, Oaxaca is a city of 700,000 with a pretty rich indigenous and colonial history and has become a major tourist hub in recent years.
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The other two cities (Innsbruck 5 and Lake Placid, New York 5 ) that have twice hosted the Winter Olympics are listed.
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City where Juneteenth was founded and struck by a major hurricane are reasons for its historical importance. Interstellarity (talk) 02:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
Weak support; in addition to this, I think it would be reasonable to list a satellite city of the five largest metropolitan areas of the United States (all over 7mil). Vileplume (talk) 02:29, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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I'm not sure why these are all classified as history. These were all traditionally areas that had some form of political independence, yet they are now divided between multiple countries. All 3 articles also discuss these regions as being relevant today rather than purely historical geographic features.
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Why is Mesa on here? I know it’s the third largest city in Arizona, but it’s just a suburb of Phoenix. If we need another city for Arizona, I would suggest switching it out for Flagstaff. It’s a major tourist stop due to its proximity to the Grand Canyon and its history involving Route 66. Granted, its population is less than 100,000, so I understand if you guys just want to drop Mesa.
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My home state of Michigan could use another city. Although not quite to the degree of Georgia or Pennsylvania, Michigan is one of the most underrepresented states. It has a population of around 10 million, a tad bit smaller than NC, which has 6. Both cities I nominated have comparable urban and metro area populations. Ann Arbor is a university city (University of Michigan 5) and high tech hub, and Flint had a significant automobile industry, had some of the highest crime rates in the country, and faced the water crisis. I don't feel that one is more significant over the other. Count me neutral here. Vileplume (talk) 22:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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The U.S. medicine article being listed seems very US-centric. None of the similar articles for other countries are listed. Meanwhile, Cancer 3 is VA3, and its history is rated High-Importance by WikiProject Medicine and Top-Importance by one of their taskforces.
So, under The Troubles 4, Irish Republican Army (1922–1969) 5 is listed alongside Ulster Volunteer Force 5, presumably to represent the largest Republican and Loyalist paramilitaries respectively. However, IRA (1922-1969) is actually the wrong one to list here, as the Troubles began in the late 1960s, shortly before the IRA split into the Provisional Irish Republican Army (which is what most people today think of when you use the term "IRA" in a modern context, and remained active until the end of the Troubles in the late 1990s) and the Official IRA, which went on indefinite ceasefire only around two and a half years after the split. The 1922-69 IRA is only really relevant as far as the Irish Civil War 5 is concerned (i.e. the early 1920s), and in between those two periods of time its activity was more sporadic.
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I notice the Spectrum Range is listed as a level-5 vital article. Would it make sense to replace it with the Mount Edziza volcanic complex since that is a more important subject the Spectrum Range is a part of? I don't think the Spectrum Range has more significance than the other major volcanoes of this complex, although I do think it should have a high-quality article along with Mount Edziza. Volcanoguy 03:20, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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These provinces all have populations of under 2 million. More Canadian bias to be cut. Vileplume (talk) 15:17, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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This island is only listed because it contains the city of Alameda, California, which we don't list, and it doesn't even contain the entire city! The article only has 1 interwiki.
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Recently mentioned at VA4 by OhnoitsvileplumeXD as "of one of the largest agglomerations in the European Union." --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:39, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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No clue why this specific decade is singled out.
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Siberia is massively overrepresented and Central Russia is massively underrepresented. The Siberian cities I’ve proposed for removal are significantly smaller than the Central Russian cities I’ve proposed for addition. OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 00:22, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
I know there's a disproportionate amount of Eastern European topics, but I think these still warrant an addition. Feel free to balance these by suggesting something to add for Western Europe.
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The Orange Revolution was a major point in modern Ukraine's history distancing them further from Russia.
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A major event affecting the whole economy of Europe.
Countering sys bias a bit. Major Eastern Europe history stuff and key events in Polish history. The concept of uprisings in Polish history is an important part of the modern Polish historical identity because of the following four key events. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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41 interwikis, 186 daily page views. The first of the series of Polish uprising against Russia/Germany that defined the period of Polish history for 123 years (period of Partitions of Poland 4. Stuff that all people in Poland know about, basic element of modern patriotic education and therefore Polish historical identity. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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43 interwikis, 307 daily page views. The second major uprising (see above). Stuff that all people in Poland know about, yadda yadda. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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42 interwikis, 329 daily page views. The third major uprising (see above). Stuff that all people in Poland know about, yadda yadda. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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52 interwikis, 1215 daily page views. The fourth major uprising (see above); this one is from WW2. Stuff that all people in Poland know about, yadda yadda. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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49 interwikis, ~850 daily page views. While this one is somewhat less famous in Poland, it is perhaps more famous internationally (although pageviews don't support this) and also is an important part of the modern Jewish history as well as the Holocaust history. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)