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This term was listed as one of the Demonyms. I can find no support for this anecdotally or otherwise. I have removed it. 74.93.100.212 (talk) 17:46, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
I've added a Local Culture section with events and landmarks. Feel free to add as you please.
Frey at last 05:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
You know, I am dismayed at the route the Bellingham page has been going, with politically charged or biased entries that are better served in some other way (i.e. most of the Future Development section). A healthy dialog on growth issues is one thing, but I think this is a bit much for a general community page. Maybe a linked page from the Bellingham community page just on development issues would be better. Am I alone in this idea? I would rather the community page emulate cities that provide more content and substance like San Francisco, Portland, Oregon or Eugene, Oregon. I would gladly make the edits and changes to head in this direction, but want to open this up for a general discussion first...
I'm not interested in logging in at the moment to make any edits (I was indirectly threatened by a Wikipedian and I need to make a new User name and profile), but I thought it would be good to mention under "Theater" that as well as the Whatcom Theatre Guild we have the UpFront Theater established by Ryan Stiles, and perhaps make note of the Summer Stock productions put on up at Western each year. All in all, I think the B'ham page is great! 63.231.50.47 21:21, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Whatcom County is not the most northwesterly in the lower 48. That honour should go to Clallam County, Washington.
Added some detail about the pipeline explosion from the NTSB report and from having seen that smoke cloud personally. Scary. The photo shows old Fairhaven, and a favorite coffeeshop of mine. Downtown Bellingham is a mile north of where the photo was taken.
Article was edited on that date to remove "vandalism". Portions were removed that noted the cause of the pipeline explosion to be youths playing with fireworks. I'd agree that the phrasing in that version was crude and somewhat insensitive, however that is, to the best of my knowledge, as a bellingham resident, the suspected cause of the fire.
Hadn't heard this before but I suspect it's related to nearby Vancouver, BC's tag of "No Fun City". And it's true - I've had more fun in B-ham than in Vancouver; small but fun, vs. big but repressive . . . Skookum1 22:00, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
The "City of Subdued Excitement" label is not widely used nor an official slogan (the weekly alternative paper that used it the most is now out of business) We are a laid back kind of town...and you can have lots of fun here!
This should nonetheless be noted as unofficial, and footnoted citing a few prominent uses. - Jmabel | Talk 07:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Somebody (71.231.38.152) is vanalizing this nickname and instead calling it "City of Generic Logos". While "City of Subdued Excitement" is not official it is commonly accepted as such. This malicious visitor is clearly protesting the new city logo (which admittedly I dislike as well) and has also made the change "He is also the one who hired a Seattle company to design a generic Bellingham logo." in reference to former mayor Mark Asmundson. Does anybody know how to bar this user from making changes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Khaufle (talk • contribs) 2006-11-12 11:47
Any of you Bellinghamians (ites?) ever heard of a pirate colony called Hermosa, possibly/supposedly connected with the mysterious Spanish party at Kelowna which got wiped out on its way "home" via the Similkameen? Supposedly Hermosa was Fairhaven, or the author theorizing/demonstraing this dubbed it that in lack of any other, and it was supposedly a pirate haven of sailors who had fled north from the limits of the Spanish/Mexican navy, which then was no farther north than San Blas; according to the gist of the legend, part of the reason for the voyages sent north from that garrison-port were to secure the interests of the Spanish king; but curiously the Spanish did not seek to penetrate the Strait of Juan de Fuca, as if held off. References are scattered but have been summarized in at least two accounts that I can think of, two which I think I have around the house. Just wondering if this is known about down there....Haven't been able to dig up any native stories that back this up, other than the massacre at Keremeos, but there were indications of "un-Indian" activities in some of the early reports from the Strait of Juan de Fuca; most strikingly, crucifixions of victims, then unknown in native culture in this region. The Spanish may have only feared the Euclataws or the then-powerful Cowichans and Suguamish, but at least one account I read analyzes some of the accounts which hint at something known to the chronicler and his captain, but recorded deftly, as if not to admit to the existence of something; that particular account I don't have but if I gave it some thought I could come upwith the author; one of the local journalist-historians.Skookum1 06:55, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
To the anonymous blowhard (ISP 207.69.137.34 and/or 172.185.90.63) who keeps using this talk page as a place to blather about how much you hate the Pacific Northwest: please stop. Your opinions are extremely subjective and POV, and contribute nothing to this discussion. Stop trying to pass off your prejudices as fact; just because you didn't enjoy yourself in Bellingham, it doesn't mean you can use Wikipedia as a forum to air your prejudice (and yes, prejudice is the correct word: your posts suggest you value shallow, superficial judgments above empirical data). So please: stop! Stlom 01:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
However, the inane comments removed by stlom may be useful as a textbook example of Tin-foil_hat. :) Thewalrus 09:39, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
What happened to the Bellingham Weekly? When I last lived in Bellingham, there were several competing weekly papers. Somebody told me that they merged, or one went out of business. I remember the every other weekly, the echo (classified ads) and a couple of others. Thewalrus 01:37, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
any info on whether this town is more conservative or liberal by american standards?
...there are lots of military people around that area, and also there is a homeland security office there, which may attract some conservative types.
it's a northwest college town, but traditionally a lot of employment came from extraction industries (timber, fishing). hence there's a tendency toward extremism, at least on environmental/land use issues. whatcom county is probably skewed conservative, but I believe the city itself skews slightly liberal.
- I am absolutely sure the city skews left, but maybe high school and college students create an even more disproportionate impression. But overall, especially if compared to other parts of America as a whole, definitely liberal. Frey 07:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Just look at how washington votes: every county with the exeption of whatcom, and king vote conservitive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.125.230 (talk)
If I had to give the town a label, it would be contrarian. I visited family in Bellingham in August, and the ONLY political signs I saw were for Ron Paul. If it weren't a 2-party system, I'd bet that the Greens and Libertarians would garner as many votes as either the Democrats or Republicans.24.84.233.33 (talk) 17:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
The "Notable citizens" list is getting extensive. I think it needs to be cleaned up. Before I be bold and do that work, I'd like to gather consensus about what to do. I'm adding a series of proposals below. Please put your response as a bulleted item below the proposal. If I'm missing points, please add them. I'll give this a week, and if I see a consensus, I'll proceed. Your thoughts? --Jdlh | Talk 19:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Proposal 1: follow WP policy on Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Lists of people. This says that "the list should be limited to notable people: those that already have a Wikipedia article or could plausibly have one, per this guideline." This may call for deleting some people on the list that aren't notable (4 entries on the list don't have articles, so may not be notable). --Jdlh | Talk 19:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Proposal 2: Bands are worth covering, but aren't people, so don't belong in the "Notable citizens" section. Move any bands in "Notable Citizens" list to "Local Music Scene" section. If that gets unwieldy, someone else may want to create a "Notable bands of Bellingham" section, or even a "List of Bellingham bands" article. --Jdlh | Talk 19:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Proposal 3: (revised, see 3a, 3b, 3c below) follow WP policy on attribution to reliable sources by calling for citation of evidence for each person's Bellingham connection. For any red-link article, that means calling for a "ref" tag with a citation by the red link in "Notable citizens" list. For any blue-link article where the article doesn't mention a Bellingham connection, calling for a "ref" tag by the blue link in the "Notable citizens" list here. For any blue-link article which mentions a Bellingham connection but doesn't cite a reliable source, call for a "ref" tag by claim in the person's article. Any place where this proposal calls for attribution but it's not there, add a "fact" tag to say a citation is needed. In practice, I expect I'd add "fact" tags to many of the entries in the list right now, or in the corresponding articles. --Jdlh | Talk 19:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Proposal 3a: where a person on the Notable Citizens list does not have an article already (i.e. has a red link), check to see if the person used to have an article, which was deleted because they weren't notable. In that case, delete the person from the notable citizens list. Otherwise, they may stay on the list but, in the spirit of the WP policy on attribution to reliable sources, there should be a footnote attached to their name with a citation showing their local connection. If there's no footnote, it's appropriate to put on a "fact" tag saying a citation is needed. --Jdlh | Talk 08:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Proposal 3b: where a person on the Notable Citizens list does have an article, but the article does not mention the local connection, then the editor adding the notable citizen to the list should add a statement to the person's article, documenting their local connection, with attribution to a reliable source. If there's no such statement in the person's article, it's appropriate to put a "fact" tag on the person's entry in the list to show the article is missing evidence for a local connection, and perhaps the person doesn't belong on the list. If it seems likely that there is no local connection, delete the name from the list. --Jdlh | Talk 08:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Proposal 3c: where a person on the Notable Citizens list has an article, and the article mentions a local connection, but there's no attribution to a reliable source, then it's appropriate to put a "fact" tag against that unsupported mention of a local connection. In this case there's no tag on the name in the list.--Jdlh | Talk 08:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I take Khaufle's comments as generally in agreement, and don't hear any objections, so I'm going ahead with the proposals as outlined above. --Jdlh | Talk 03:53, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations to Khaufle for adding the first reference to attribute a notable citizen's Bellingham connection! As a further step, I encourage editors to move descriptions and references like these from the Bellingham Notable Citizens list to the person's main article. Step by step, we all move Wikipedia forward. --Jdlh | Talk 19:25, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
It's been a month, and 14 of the entries are still tagged as needing citation. Six of them are red-links. If I don't hear objections, in a few days I'll delete the entries in the notable persons list still tagged. --Jdlh | Talk 20:16, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
It's now August, and there are several entries in the Notable Citizens list which are marked as "needs citation" from April or May 2007. If I don't hear any objections in the next few days, I'll delete those entries. --Jdlh | Talk 19:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Notmyhandle just reordered the list of notable citizens by first name. They were previously sorted by last name. I personally think last name is a better choice of ordering for lists in an encyclopedia. In a formal context like an encyclopedia, phone book, or list of Nobel Prize honorees, it's conventional to order by the last name. The last name is the more public or formal name. So I think we should go back to the previous ordering. But first, I have posted a question to Notmyhandle's talk page, asking for their reasons to sort by first name. --Jdlh | Talk 00:27, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Notmyhandle, let's close this subject. I see consensus that the names be sorted in lastname, firstname order. Your proposal is to put names in that order, written as Lastname, Firstname. I propose putting names in that order, written as Firstname Lastname. I'm reordering the names back to lastname, firstname order. If you still feel strongly about rewriting the names as Lastname, Firstname, I don't object to your doing that. --Jdlh | Talk 19:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Does it really seem necessary to have a whole paragraph about the airport and it's for profit services in the opening paragraph? to me it smacks of tourist pamphlet info, hardly encyclopedic. Murderbike 04:31, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Went ahead and moved the info to a "transportation" sub-section. Murderbike 07:42, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
someone should remove the inside weblinks. They don't comply with wikipedia standards... --77.179.80.145 09:11, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
I would presume this is referring to all the links to sites OUTSIDE of wikipedia, like all the colleges, Village Books and whatnot. There's a ton of them, but I've never really paid much attention to what policies or guidelines say about them. Murderbike 22:59, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
The lead section seems to once again be getting cluttered up, this time with non-notable schools. How about we add a section on "Education" or something like that, and move them there? Murderbike (talk) 20:29, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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I was recently chastised for removing the more highly partisan portions of the "waterfront redevelopment" section without posting on this page. As the section stands, it reads much like the Bellingham Bay Foundation's website. If there are no particular objections to me removing a vast swath of unsupported comments and POV language, I will do so again.216.254.15.134 (talk) 04:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
yahhhhhhhhhhh whattttttttttttt nowwwwwwwwww............lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.18.121 (talk) 02:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Somebody added an advertisement tag to the Local Attractions section. In the current version of the section it appears that all items are either natural highlights, non-profit organizations, community institutions or historically notable. I think each of those criteria, independent or collective, should qualify them to this section. This section will always have a sense of advertisement because that's exactly what it is - it's explaining what's so special about Bellingham other than the hard facts. I would say however that just adding a list item without a description should be frowned upon. If you can't justify why something is notable as an attraction then don't add it. My two cents. Khaufle (talk) 16:45, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Isn't there an article about the Olympic Pipeline Explosion? If so, a link. If not, an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.9.95 (talk) 05:13, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I just want to discuss about few links that I want to add to this page and think that they can be helpful. Please let me know your thoughts. I really donot want to be aggressive and insert it and get it removed by somebody.Rather I would like to discuss and insert them so that they are added as enhancements to the page. Here are the links:-
www.portofbellingham.com
www.wwu.edu/
Let me know your thoughts. --PhoneBookHistorianGeek (talk) 22:21, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Just a quick note about this - I sometimes hear "BELLingham" rather than "BELL-ing-HAM", I suppose because the original English town is pronounced the former way; I don't know how to IPA that up but if someone can it should be in the intro. And just a question - why is the supposed Lummi name shown in the infobox? The Lummi word is not the same in meaning, i.e. I doubt the Lummim language uses it to refer to the city, and it's not an official name of the city, nor is Lummi an official language for any of the city, county or state.Skookum1 (talk) 16:57, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I have created the Lake Padden page and put a link on here to it. good? CallMeAndrew (talk) 20:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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I know that bellingham is made up of 4 old towns joined together about 100 years ago. we should have a section that shows the old towns and the boundaries of them with names. i could make a map or somthing. its just an idea. do u think i should do it? i think it would improve the page. CallMeAndrew (talk) 03:17, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
i added it, improve it or correct if u need.CallMeAndrew (talk) 14:46, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
i added the 8 way Surrounding Municipalities. edit if u need. =) CallMeAndrew (talk) 01:04, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm struggling to find a source, but I know the highest point in Bellingham is NOT Alabama Hill. I think it's an unpopulated location either on Yew Street Hill or the shoulder of Galbraith Mountain. Either way, the elevation is around 800, much higher than the 500 elevation in the Tweed Twenty area. Perhaps we could retain the Alabama Hill reference as the highest populated point in the city.
69.7.41.230 (talk) 16:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
I know the music section isn't the most encyclopedic, but that doesn't mean that it should be used as a springboard for irrelevant advertisement. "JED" is a band that has nothing to do with Bellingham and its representing agency that says it is based in Bellingham has nothing to document this on its linked source (it's homepage). That being the case, it should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.86.89 (talk) 23:23, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm moving this "Music Section" Discussion down to the bottom here, in the hopes that it will receive some attention from local experts. Although most of the Bellingham article has been cleaned up, the "Music Section" still has a ton of redlinks to bands which are of questionable notability at this time. If there are any editors who have Reliable Sources which can support stronger notability and Verifiability of any of the musicians mentioned in those redlinks, i think it would be wonderful if we could add some citations and good references. But until that Music Section is brought up to the general standards of Notability guidelines i think i should be bold and do some pruning. ~ Teledildonix314 ~ Talk ~ 4-1-1 ~ 00:58, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
im starting to think this article is almost ready for good article quality. there doesnt seem to be much problems, plus if there are, im sure they could be easily fixed. im gonna work to get more pictures. history seems good, geography seems good, what else do we need? CallMeAndrew (talk) 01:12, 2 June 2009 (UTC) Definantly not. Its still a B quality as there are plenty of places that are not sourced and the wordning in places is not right. --76.121.4.143 (talk) 02:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Does the Food Not Bombs chapter in Bellingham merit inclusion in the activism section? Seems like a lot of people attend, and a lot of young people in the community are affiliated with it.
Also, on another topic: Is this "Bellingham is home to the longest-running Peace vigil in the US. Started by Howard and Rosemary Harris more than 46 years ago, it has seen more than 4 generations. On the corner of Magnolia Street and Cornwall, in front of the Federal Building, every Friday starting at 4pm and lasting until usually about 5 pm.[51][52]" a little too 'promotional' for WP standards? I know it's all factual and doesn't use glorifying adjectives (am I damning my own case here??) but it seems a little too specific, the kind of thing you'd see on a poster advertising it. NeutronTaste (talk) 07:46, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Good day. Is there no crime in Bellingham? I could see nothing in the article. I am not versed on the subject but would welcome the addition of this information, which is common on place pages elsewhere in W. Also, the page has a boosterism feel to it. Is that just my take or does anyone else concur (see the weather/climate preamble as an example)? Thanks (forgot my account password so I'll be anon., 96.49.38.248 (talk) 17:00, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
The other day, on March 19, I made a legitimate edit, discussing one of the events that occurs in Bellingham, and it was removed the following day. Although there is no source of more information on the subject, I don't think it should have been deleted.
~Tobi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.254.208 (talk) 22:10, 23 March 2012 (UTC) its really green there cause i lived there before its a city/town to me i grew up there since i was born
I see no mention of the Bellingham Blitz football team. I'm not sure that I could safely add them, but their website is at http://www.bellinghamblitz.net/. (They aren't real good at keeping the website current, but I'm pretty sure the team is still current. If you're really worried about it, there is contact information on the website, so I'm sure you could verify. They are a member of the Western Washington Football Alliance and took the championship in that league in 2011.
Seems worth a mention in the sports section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.81.94.72 (talk) 23:06, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
In the climate section it is stated: Bellingham was reported to have the lowest average sunshine amount of any city in the US.[23]. There are two problems with this data. 1) The source, City Data, does not indicate where it gets its "average sunshine amount" data 2) Actual data from the Office of the Washington State Climatologist which uses actual observations from weather stations from 1973-2000 indicates Bellingham is far from being the cloudiest location in Washington. In fact, the average cloud cover is less than both Seattle (Sea Tac) and Paine Field (Everett) and Olympia http://www.climate.washington.edu/cloudcover/#top. It also features more clear or partly cloudy days (164) than the above mentioned cities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabbi the tabby (talk • contribs) 04:57, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
That looks like a questionable source to me too. I've lived in Grays Harbor and Olympia and know for a fact that Bellingham is far less cloudy/rainy than those parts of the state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.7.45.135 (talk) 20:12, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
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I don't think we should keep the literary references section at all, even if citations can be provided from the source works, the Bridges of Madison County or Footfall. The problem is not just that we need to cite the pop culture source, we also need to cite a third party source that says that this reference is in some way important. It doesn't need to be notable like an article topic, but there has to be a reason beyond mere existence to care that Bellingham showed up. It has to have had some influence, or have changed the work in a meaningful way. If it's all the same if the book said Bellingham or some other random town, then what is the point? --Dennis Bratland (talk) 23:59, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
I reverted the removal of the Bellingham flag. Yes, it's unofficial, but it was the winner of an open community competition. (I don't know how to add a footnote to http://bellinghamwins.com/bellingham-city-flag/ or '(unofficial)' to the description in the Infobox.)
'Subdued Excitement' isn't official either (though it has a longer history). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balsamic Fan (talk • contribs) 19:53, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Why is there no section on the Juggalos downtown? They seem pretty relevant to the city's character. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.102.156.190 (talk) 17:57, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
There are other place named Bellingham in the world, but there is a redirect on Bellingham so that the only place that can be found is Bellingham, Washington. I guess I shall have to look outside of Wikipedia for Bellingham, Northumberland, England. --Oldontarian (talk) 18:41, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
The article on San Francisco Opera notes that opening night for San Francisco Opera starts the 'San Francisco Social Season'. I am a newcomer here in Bellingham (Escaped Mental Patient From Intel Corporation of Oregon) and I wonder if we have something that starts the social season here in Bellingham?
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I find the repetitive invocation of the number 212,284 in the introductory paragraphs both annoying and disingenuous. Wikipedia should not be a place for silly municipal boosterism. The population of the city is less than 90,000, and to keep citing the metro area population and calling it the "city"'s population is not serious encyclopedic writing. The sidebar has it right, but the article text keeps getting it wrong. I'm not going to fix it, at least not today, but I needed to vent. --Haruo (talk) 13:28, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
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There is a news company that I really want to add on here under *media* but as I have learned before, I am unable to edit in or create articles of stuff I run. I was wondering if someone here can post 'Bellingham Metro News' from a neutral standpoint since I am unable to. Reason being is Whatcom Watch is listed via Bellingham,_Washington#Media and has its own Wikipedia article yet not as widely known. I hope its okay for me to post this in the talk page :/ I figured it would be better to have a consensus conversation regarding this matter since the (BMN) is turning 3-years-old this January.
I would rather have someone create this from a neutral viewpoint rather than a promotionally-written article
--Fernando Gonzalez 09:26, 11 December 2021 (UTC)Fernando Gonzafer001 (talk) 01:26, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
It has two dry summer months, with rainfall below 30 mm. so it’s kind of a Mediterranean climate דולב חולב (talk) 09:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Just re-visiting this discussion from a couple of years back regarding notability guidelines for being added. I decided to wait a couple of years before trying again since User:SounderBruce said in the above statement "Whatcom Watch has several mentions in the Bellingham Herald, which means it meets notability guidelines. There needs to be significant, focused coverage of Bellingham Metro News from a reputable and established source before it can be added" {comment posted at 06:22, on 25 January 2022) - I have since been able to have Bellingham Metro News mentioned in The Bellingham Herald multiple times[5] [6], Cascadia Daily News[7] and even credited in a Televised Q13 Fox News story[8]
thus fast-forward to present day, I believe Bellingham Metro News should be added to Bellingham,_Washington#Media, reason I am adding it to this talk page rather than editing the article my self is due to a past COI disclosure, meaning another wiki user must complete the task in order to stay within the Wiki TOS Gonzafer001 (talk) 03:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC)