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I noticed that the recall was removed from this page sometime within the past 10 years or so. Not sure why because at the time it was a very large scandal when I was fairly young and it instilled a phobia of the Breyer's brand. Today, I understand what food allergies are and I came here to read about it for therapeutic reasons, because I'm certain that it is a fine and safe product, but it's not here anymore.
From the writing, it is not clear which brand is considered the knock-off of the other? As a Philadelphian, I know Breyer's much better, but this might not hold for the West Coast, so I cannot clarify! Hillsboro 16:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
As a New Yorker and ice cream lover, I was not aware of such a confusion until I saw this article. I've never heard of Dryers until now. I am removing this paragraph because of 1) the confusion that Hillsboro mentioned 2) it's inaccurate and not useful 3) no citation or is a matter of opinion. We now have confirmation from both coasts that Dryers is not well-known, so there is no "popular misconception". pogo (talk) 07:41, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
I live in California where both Dreyer's and Breyer's are on shelves. They are both very popular brands and it is confusing. In fact, it's something I've always wondered about! I buckled down and did some research, hopefully fixing all three of Pogo's issues with the content. Pisomojado (talk) 05:24, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
From what I understand, Dreyer's and Edy's are the same brand. For whatever reason, Edy's is in the midwest and east coast, Dreyer's the west coast. Past that, I don't know any specifics. For the record I also haven't looked up the wikipedia article for Dreyer's or Edy's. 76.178.190.166 (talk) 08:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
I am also from New York and have never heard of Dreyers. Breyers I like. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.224.4.58 (talk) 02:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
This article seems to read like an advertisement and looks like it was written by people working for the company... It's a good brand, but it needs to be less POV. I may get around to fixing it later if no one else is willing. --The Way 06:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I second this and have added a NPOV tag. --Inexplicable 00:36, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
What exactly sounds like an ad? The first section talks about how the "Pledge of Purity" is now obsolete. And the final section is about how many consumers are ticked off about the recent recipe changes. There are 2 links to anti-breyer's sites. To what, exactly, are you objecting?cdpanic 19:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, people. I don't know what isn't neutral about this article or how it's written like an ad. I would agree that it's a stub and needs further development, but I think the sections to which you are referring would be appropriate for a "company background" section and are not necessarily biased. I think this page is tagged incorrectly so please explain, or I'm changing the tags.cdpanic 03:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
The External Links section sounds very biased, like it's trying to spread propaganda about the company. It sounds like "you will die if you eat this ice cream". Could it be changed to just say how many of Breyers' long-time customers have been greatly disappointed to see them use preservatives now? Burnside65 14:01, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Made some POV changes - in particular toned down the "greedy corporation" stuff while keeping intact their grounds for complaint (and links to external resources) Chewyrunt 14:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
It is certainly true that this entry reads like an advertisement. Unilever has seed to it that no negative comments may be made. Nonetheless, Unilver has destroyed the only remaining pure ice cream, once made without tara gum or any other non dairy item. While Unilever claims that their additives are natural, so are any number of other things, from the most unmentionable to barn hay. But would you want them in your ice cream? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.36.196.246 (talk) 22:16, August 22, 2007 (UTC)
Nothing about how since Breyers was purchased by Unilever they've started using emulsifiers in their "All Natural" ice cream? Carageenan, carob bean gum, something called "tara bean gum" ... and corn syrup instead of sugar. To my eye, it appears that they've been converting over, flavor by flavor, for a few years now. Now even their vanilla has gone to the dark side.
Check out carageenan in a google search. I find it scary stuff. And it's in literally almost everything.
This is, of course, the company that used to run commercials of a Mikey-like kid skeptically reading the ingredients on one of those *other* ice cream brands ("carageenan? Guar gum??") I'd add this information, but darn it, I can't find any decent sources on when they started doing it, what they've done, when their old "All Natural" ad campaign ran (70's-80's?)
Where's a corporate whistle-blower when you need one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.210.17.33 (talk) 2006-10-27T13:21:00 (UTC)
Right, can't source it, but I recall that when they started adding adulterants in to 90's they revived the old "all natural" commercials in a grand act of hypocrisy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.114.33.82 (talk) 01:27, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Please note (just corrected in the article) that although they have indeed added (natural) tara gum to their "All Natural" varieties, the other ingredients being discussed here (e.g. Polysorbate 80) have only been added to their other (low-fat, low-carb, etc.) varieties. Chewyrunt 14:19, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Chewyrunt, that might be true as of 2007. As of 2012, other then maybe 6 to 8 flavors of their product, all of them now have things like carageenan, replace sugar with corn syrup and so forth. As the article itself states, most of their product doesn't even qualify as ice cream but is labelled "Frozen Dairy dessert" in the United States. It is pretty much a parody of their former product now IMO. 76.178.190.166 (talk) 08:39, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
And (in Canada at least) the "All Natural" line has disappeared, replaced by "Double Churn", which is loaded with gums and crap (though still not quite as crappy as their cheaper line). Does the "All Natural" line still exist anywhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.227.103 (talk) 20:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
I have no idea with regards to Canada, but the 8 or so flavors that they have left as real ice cream only have tara gum as an additive. I'd have to go to their website or look in my local grocery store to see if those flavors are labelled "all natural". I'm in the States as an aside. 98.145.238.99 (talk) 19:18, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
, grandfather of U.S. Supreme Court Associate Justice Stephen Breyer [1],
I found this bit of information interesting, but then I was unable to find a source for it, or any mention of it anywhere. The "source" links to an amazon book on ice cream, but no actual quotation to verify it. Moving to the talk page until cited.
Moved following text from article:
Chewyrunt (talk) 13:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
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This article should state that the infamous Lickable. campaign is actually a hoax. I came to this page to find more information about it, but i didn't.. Found it elsewhere though. Anyways, some wikifanatic should do it :) I'm not much of an encyclopedian.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.119.178.77 (talk) 19:10, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Adding disgusting artificial swill to the ice cream only produced hatred in what were once loyal customers. I see that the only kind to have semi-real ingredients is the vanilla / chocolate / strawberry. If those turn, prepare to pay dearly! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.135.252.44 (talk) 08:12, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm sure there's a better way to explain the difference in their products. Using the same terms as the advertising campaign doesn't sound fair and unbiased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A000:1208:8098:A853:4C19:242B:B51E (talk) 21:59, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 18:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Several of your recent edits to Breyers are not in keeping with Wikipedia guidelines. I respectfully suggest that you use this discussion page instead for opinion and commentary. Believe it or not I'm on your side regarding the changes to the product - my baby just turned one and I was looking forward to his first taste of ice cream - which I had always assumed would be Breyers - but after tasting it ourselves my wife and I decided it's not good enough for him and we're going to go with another brand (most likely Turkey Hill). Chewyrunt 16:06, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
The cost cutting paragraph is extremely misleading and wrong. The only products labeled "Frozen Dairy Desert" in the US are their Carb Smart line. This has nothing to do with cost cutting, it is due to the fact that they are trying to make a low-carb ice cream. All of their other product lines are labeled as some variation (low fat, reduced fat, etc.) of Ice Cream. Quikah (talk) 17:26, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
The cost cutting paragraph is a tad odd and definitely not encyclopedic. Eg. since when did whey become synthetic ? I'm sure Little Miss Muffet would be surprised to hear that. Are we sure these ingredients are used due to cost-cutting? --2001:980:331A:1:225:22FF:FE7D:8A27 (talk) 14:42, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Date 2006 is not right. The referenced article mentions Tara gum at the date, but they had been toying with various other adulterants for many other years before that. I'd love to have the whole history at my finger tips, but per my memory it definitely dates back to the 90's, presumably around they time of their purchase by Unilever.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.114.33.82 (talk) 01:19, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
There is some information missing or removed because as it reads now it does not really make sense. Who did Breyer's make original reciprocal agreement with? What does Edy's have to do with anything? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.205.52.2 (talk) 13:49, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
There are accusations that this article was edited to hurt the brand in this reddit link Here: Reverse hit-piece advertisements? cojoco (talk) 07:47, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
In reviewing this article, I have noticed a number of inaccuracies including the wrong logo, misspellings, listing of products that no longer exist, confusion over which products are actually "frozen dairy deserts" vs. "ice cream" and in some instances lack of references.
At the end of the day, I know Breyers would like to see its article be of the highest quality possible and have all the information it includes fall in line with Wikipedia guidelines.
I am wondering if we might get an editor's assistance to make some of the updates that are needed given my WP:COI. I am happy to work it through however you would like. I can identify the specific issues and provide references and leave it up to another editor for consideration to make the changes or not. Alternatively, I am happy to make the updates but would appreciate a watchful eye to ensure all the changes are in line with Wikipedia guidelines.
Following is a sample of some of the updates:
This is just a sampling. Appreciate any guidance on how we can address. Thx, SusanChana (talk) 14:58, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Section | Issue | Requested Updates/Sources |
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General | "Breyers" is not consistently spelled throughout the article and in a couple places has a "'s" which is not correct | |
Intro | Company is no longer a part of Good Humor-Breyers Unit. | Owned by Unilever, it is part of its North American Refreshments Unit.[1] [2] |
History/Cost-Cutting | Information about where the plants are located fits more within the "History" section, rather than the "Cost-Cutting". | Move "For several decades over 30% of Breyers products, including most of its products sold in the northeastern U.S., were produced in a large plant outside Boston, in Framingham, Massachusetts. As part of cost-cutting by Unilever, the plant was closed in March 2011.[11]" to "History" |
History/Cost Cutting | The information about moving headquarters fits better within the history section. | Remove "In recent years, as part of cost-cutting measures since their move from Green Bay, Wisconsin to Unilever's U.S. headquarters in Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey,[4]" from the Cost Cutting section. Add the following to the History section: In October 2007, Unilever announced that it would close its office in Green Bay following the integration of its North American ice cream business into its U.S. and Canadian operating units. The ice cream headquarters operations relocated to Unilever's U.S. headquarters in Englewood Cliifs, N.J.[3] |
Cost Cutting | Current content does not clarify that Breyers offers ice cream, gelato, frozen desserts, etc. Adding in a sentence to clarify would better explain Breyers offerings. | Breyers products inlcude ice cream, light ice cream, lactose free ice cream, frozen dairy dessert and gelato.[4] |
Cost Cutting | Breyers announced ingredient changes that are not listed in the "Cost Cutting" section. | Unilever has a goal to cut the company’s environmental impact in half by 2020.[5] As a result, Breyers uses vanilla that comes from sustainably sourced Rainforest Alliance Certified™ beans in Madagascar. In February 2015, Breyers announced they would no longer use milk and cream from cows treated with artificial growth hormones.[6] |
Cost Cutting | Content in this section is more focused on ingredients and updates throughout the years rather than cost-cutting. Changing the title of this section to "Ingredient Changes" would provide a more informational headline to let readers know what the section is about. | Rename section "Ingredient Changes" |
Products | Breyers offers gluten-free flavors that are not mentioned in the article. | Breyers has more than thirty gluten free flavors available.[7] |
Products | The Breyers Product list is outdated. | Breyers product lines include:
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Hi SusanChana! Very quickly as I'm up against it in real life: Most of the information you want to add looks pretty straightforward. The biggest concerns I see are in the Products sections of the matrix -- of course we would never use 'luscious' sauces, 'gourmet' toppings, 'real' skim milk. Which family are you referring to in 'family's favorite' cookie and candy brands? We wouldn't use 'more than 30' but rather 'approximately 30' as more neutral phrasing. I don't have time to do the writing right now, but if you want to rewrite the sections of concern, including references, and post the rewritten sections here section by section (each in a new section of the talk page, for easy discussion) I will try to find time to help do the actual posting of the agreed-upon changes. Make sure to post to my talk page or ping me here whenever you post a new section. valereee (talk) 14:25, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
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This statement: "For several decades over 30% of Breyers products, including most of its products sold in the northeastern U.S., were produced in a large plant outside Boston, in Framingham, Massachusetts. As part of cost-cutting by Unilever, the plant was closed in March 2011." seems misleading if not untrue. There was a large Breyers plant in West Philadelpiha at 43rd & Woodland Ave. for much of the 20th c.--into the early 1990s--and that plant certainly provided a good part of the product sold in the "northeastern U.S." Maybe the author meant New England and not the northeastern U.S.?? The West Philadelphia plant was a major landmark, with a large neon logo sign, widely visible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.15.139.37 (talk) 2015-08-25T19:19:13 (UTC)
It seems strange to me that this article contains absolutely nothing about the fact (as demonstrated on video) that Breyers actually does not melt, despite being left in a house at 22C! I'm sure there was some talk about this on the net some time ago, and I am sure that Breyers responded to it. But you can see the results of the video on Youtube - here 79.65.134.36 (talk) 11:16, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
"Breyers" is not consistently spelled throughout the article and in a couple places has a " 's " which is not correct.
Requested change: Update the spelling throughout the article.
Hi, Valereee, as we discussed previously, I'm looking for assistance making updates to the Breyers page as a result of my WP:COI. If you could still assist with this, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! JessicaWinski (talk) 20:46, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
valereee (talk) 06:36, 19 March 2016 (UTC):
Hi, Valereee, as we discussed previously, I'm looking for assistance making updates to the Breyers page as a result of my WP:COI. Below are the updates to the beginning of the Breyers Wiki page. If you could still assist with this, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! JessicaWinski (talk) 20:51, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Breyers is no longer a part of Good Humor-Breyers Unit.
Requested change: Update sentence to say: Owned by Unilever, it is part of its North American Refreshments Unit.[1] [2]
Links to sources:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-unilever-reorganisation-idUKTRE75N1ZB20110624
valereee (talk) 06:36, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, Valereee, below are the updates to the history and cost cutting sections. I'm looking for assistance making updates to the Breyers page, as discussed before, as a result of my WP:COI. Your assistance and advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! JessicaWinski (talk) 20:59, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
History Section:
Information about where the plants are located fits more within the "History" section, rather than the "Cost-Cutting".
Requested update: Move "For several decades over 30% of Breyers products, including most of its products sold in the northeastern U.S., were produced in a large plant outside Boston, in Framingham, Massachusetts. As part of cost-cutting by Unilever, the plant was closed in March 2011.[11]" to "History"
Source: http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/article/20110401/NEWS/304019934
The information about moving headquarters fits better within the history section.
Requested update: Remove "In recent years, as part of cost-cutting measures since their move from Green Bay, Wisconsin to Unilever's U.S. headquarters in Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey,[4]" from the Cost Cutting section. Add the following to the History section: In October 2007, Unilever announced that it would close its office in Green Bay following the integration of its North American ice cream business into its U.S. and Canadian operating units. The ice cream headquarters operations relocated to Unilever's U.S. headquarters in Englewood Cliifs, N.J.[1]
Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/stories/2007/10/08/daily32.html
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Hi, Valereee, below are the proposed edits for the Products section. I'm not sure why the tables are all dropping down together at the bottom. If I need to make any changes to the formatting to make the review and editing process easier for you, please let me know. Your assistance with this is much appreciated and I'm looking forward to your feedback! Thanks again. JessicaWinski (talk) 21:07, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Breyers offers gluten-free flavors that are not mentioned in the article.
Requested update: Add sentence: Breyers has approximately thirty gluten free flavors available.[1]
Source: http://www.breyers.com/product/category/749112/gluten-free
The Breyers Product list is outdated.
Requested update: Update to include the following- Breyers product lines include:
Source: http://www.breyers.com/product
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JessicaWinski I don't know what you've done to screw up your table, but on the best of days a table is hard to cut and paste. If you could please take everything out of the table and put each change with its set of references into its own section it would make helping you a lot easier. :) valereee (talk) 06:41, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Valereee, here are the requested updated to the cost cutting section. Please let me know if you have any addition edits or questions. I'm eager to learn about this process and greatly appreciate your advice and guidance. Thanks again! JessicaWinski (talk) 17:40, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Current content does not clarify that Breyers offers ice cream, gelato, frozen desserts, etc. Adding in a sentence to clarify would better explain Breyers offerings.
Requested update: Add sentence: Breyers products inlcude ice cream, light ice cream, lactose free ice cream, frozen dairy dessert and gelato.[1]
Source: http://www.breyers.com/product
Breyers announced ingredient changes that are not listed in the "Cost Cutting" section.
Requested update: Add the following: Unilever has a goal to cut the company’s environmental impact in half by 2020.[2] Breyers uses vanilla that comes from sustainably sourced Rainforest Alliance Certified™ beans in Madagascar. In February 2015, Breyers announced they would no longer use milk and cream from cows treated with artificial growth hormones.[3]
Source #2: http://www.today.com/food/breyers-ice-cream-stop-using-dairy-hormone-treated-cows-t2446
Content in this section is more focused on ingredients and updates throughout the years rather than cost-cutting. Changing the title of this section to "Ingredient Changes" would provide a more informational headline to let readers know what the section is about. Requested update: Rename section "Ingredient Changes"
JessicaWinski (talk) 17:40, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
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So I bought cookie dough ice cream and there was absolutely no cookie dough nothing none absolutely none bought another one there was none and I was sad cause I have always had cookie dough ice cream from you guys. 2600:1700:1C2F:2000:5EF:3500:2C65:1442 (talk) 00:43, 22 September 2022 (UTC)