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I renamed the “Polluter pay principle” section, “Government incentivization.” I believe this removes potential political bias due to the original title not acknowledging the wheel-to-well and mining emissions EV owners would also be responsible for. If “Polluter pay principle” is restored as the section title, I think we would need to cite and explain the origin of the phrase as well.

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 September 2022 and 8 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): MichaelNhy (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by MichaelNhy (talk) 00:47, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, Due to my conflict of interest, I cannot create this article myself. I am requesting that an independent editor create the article instead. It's about Ecocar Motors, an EV hybrid US manufacturer, that is a young enterprise. I have the article ready and well written, according to Wikipedia guidelines. I can't add it because my relationship with the company is that I am an employee. Can someone help me with this? EllaAtEcocar (talk) 23:07, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@EllaAtEcocar: Hello Ella! This isn't the right place to ask this but I will answer you regardless. Are you sure your company is Notable according to Wikipedia's criteria? I'd be more than willing to help you create the article, however I would much rather not waste my time trying to write an article that is doomed to fail. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 23:40, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dear @Blaze WolfBlazeWolf

Ecocar Motors Company is a new automotive corporation that is emerging to become a leading manufacturer of three energy sources powered vehicles, utilizing hydrogen, solar, and electric advanced technologies.

As a new player in the automotive industry, Ecocar Motors is at the forefront of technological innovation and sustainable transportation. Our use of hydrogen, solar, and electric power is a remarkable feat and sets us apart from other traditional vehicle manufacturers.

By incorporating these advanced technologies into our production process, we are helping to pave the way for a cleaner and more sustainable future. Their vehicles have the potential to revolutionize the transportation industry, providing a viable alternative to traditional gasoline-powered vehicles.

I believe this information plus what I have prepared, would be a valuable article on Wikipedia, as it highlights Ecocar Motors innovative approach to vehicle manufacturing and our commitment to sustainability.

Thank you for any consideration. Please let me know if you have any questions or need any further information.

Best regards, Ella EllaAtEcocar (talk) 00:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@EllaAtEcocar: That doesn't answer my question whatsoever. Wikipedia does not care what your company has to say about itself. If you cannot provide me at least 3 reliable sources on your company then I won't try writing an article. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:40, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for your message. We have some sources, but we have to track them back. So let's stay in touch. There are many different types of notable references that are considered good on Wikipedia, so according to you, for an automotive company, which ones would be the best? EllaAtEcocar (talk) 01:01, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@EllaAtEcocar: Well I suggest you read WP:RS and WP:RSP ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 01:07, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

All gas-powered vehicles generate greenhouse gases that contribute to global warming. We don't need that clause cluttering up the caption. It is redundant with text already in the article. An editor has suggested that we need that clause to explain the trend away from the gas power. If that is what you want to say, then say that and provide a reliable source that backs it up. Otherwise, you are setting up facts and asking the reader to reach a conclusion. That is poor writing and synthesis ( WP:SYN ), which is not allowed. Constant314 (talk) 14:21, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User:Constant314, I see your point re WP:SYN in this context. Thanks for your civility in taking the time to explain. —RCraig09 (talk) 14:54, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'd rather be civil than right. Cheers! Constant314 (talk) 14:59, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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I might get around to it eventually but I am hoping a keen student or someone else might do it before me Chidgk1 (talk) 17:56, 23 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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— Assignment last updated by AnseSmiley (talk) 00:05, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Wikipedians,

I think we need a clear, science-based definition of an Electric Vehicle at the top of this article. I suggest we use that of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) which is based on a scientific consensus approved by all of the world's governments. They define an Electric Vehicle as one powered "fully or mostly" by electricity.

I.e. it is not enough to simply "have an electric motor on board" as this category includes millions of non-plug in gasoline hybrid vehicles, which also have a gas tank and engine on board, and draw 100% of their propulsive energy from the combustion of gasoline in the engine. These vehicles are not powered fully or mostly by electricity, they are powered by gasoline. To call them "Electric Vehicles" empties the term of all scientific meaning, and is already subject to multiple complaints for false advertising in many jurisdictions. Gr8ber (talk) 10:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please could you link to the IPCC definition Chidgk1 (talk) 13:00, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/chapter/glossary/ (you have to scroll down to Electric Vehicles entry) Gr8ber (talk) 15:24, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Industry standard includes PHEVs as EVs. I don't know about HEVs in general. There is no pompous sounding 'scientific' definition. The inclusion of mostly in the IPCC definition is a giveaway that the their definition is woolly. Greglocock (talk) 22:20, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Gr8ber I cannot find a definition in https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_AnnexVII.pdf Please could you link to the IPCC definition you found. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:16, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There seem to be different definitions - for example

“a type of vehicle that runs on electricity, usually one that does not use any other source of power” https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/electric-vehicle

“a vehicle that can be powered by an electric motor that draws electricity from a battery and is capable of being charged from an external source” https://afdc.energy.gov/laws/12660

“a mode of transport which is powered by electricity” https://www.edie.net/definition/electric-vehicle/

“a vehicle that is driven by an electric motor which draws its current either from storage batteries or from overhead cables” https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/electric-vehicle#google_vignette

“a vehicle that uses an electric motor as the means of propulsion” https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/electric_vehicle Chidgk1 (talk) 12:44, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ah I see now @Gr8ber got “A vehicle whose propulsion is powered fully or mostly by electricity.” from https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/SR15_AnnexI.pdf Personally I would be happy with this article using that definition as the IPCC seems more authoritative than the other sources I found above. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Here is a shorter link! Sorry for slow reply. https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/chapter/glossary/ Gr8ber (talk) 15:26, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]