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@Tomobe03: I am totally unfamiliar with the history of the founding of Yugoslavia, so I'm struggling to understand the events described in this article. It is difficult for me to assess the article for B class, if I am confused about exactly what was going on. After reading this article, it seemed as if the Geneva Declaration was agreed upon by its participants and given a blessing by the French government. However, shortly afterward the agreement was rejected by the Serbian government and its diplomats. Exploiting the advance of the Italian Army and the chaos at the end of World War I, the Serbs pressured the diplomats representing the other groups (Croats, Slovenes, Bosnians, etc.) to agree to unification without resolving exactly how this was to occur. Is my interpretation correct? Perhaps my confusion would be cleared up if there was a brief explanation of what happened next. Did the Serbian monarchy become the dominant power? Were the other parties unhappy with the new arrangement? Did this have anything to do with the rapid collapse of Yugoslavia in the face of Nazi invasion in 1941? Thanks. Djmaschek (talk) 21:06, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Djmaschek: Thanks for looking at this. Your interpretation of the events regarding the Geneva Declaration is correct. I'll add a brief explanation of what happened next as you suggest, although it will probably be difficult to establish a direct causal link with the April 1941 collapse - I'll have a look though. It seems to me that the article lacks a short paragraph or so on (likely or possible) impact of the repudiation of the Geneva Declaration on the politics of Yugoslavia. I'll write one in a day or so and how about I ping you then to have another look?--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:08, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Tomobe03: Yes, I agree it would be a stretch to connect 1918 and 1941 events, and not necessary. But as you propose, a paragraph explaining the shorter-term political consequences of unification after repudiation of the Geneva Declaration would, I think, clear up any questions by me or other readers. Thanks. Djmaschek (talk) 03:54, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Tomobe03: B class. It's good enough for B class. However, if you wish to promote this to GA class, it really needs that extra paragraph at the end explaining what happened next. Without it, the Geneva Declaration is merely a failed document, when it actually was an interesting attempt to form a new country that got short-circuited by politics. Djmaschek (talk) 03:08, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks! I'm generally away from my computer today and tomorrow, but I expect to address this on Friday (3 March). Cheers--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:40, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the "Krfska" image provisionally. I think it is reasonable to assume it was published in early 1920s at the latest (if not in 1917, but I have not managed to find the publication data right now. I intend to restore the image to the article once the information is found. I have removed the irrelevant cite and therefore I think I have addressed all the issues raised in this GAR.--Tomobe03 (talk) 20:12, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that the Geneva Declaration was the agreement on a provisional government during the creation of Yugoslavia? Source: Janković, Dragoslav (1964). "Ženevska konferencija o stvaranju jugoslovenske zajednice 1918. godine" [Geneva Conference on Creation of the Yugoslav Community in 1918]. Istorija XX veka [History of the 20th Century] (in Serbian). Vol. V. Belgrade: Institute of Legal History of the University of Belgrade Faculty of Law. pp. 225–262. OCLC 67000822. Pages 242-244 and 249 amongst other sources
ALT1: ... that Nikola Pašić was did not want to compromise on the Geneva Declaration despite insistence and threats until a letter was received detailing Raymond Poincaré wishes to come to an agreement? Source: Janković, Dragoslav (1964). "Ženevska konferencija o stvaranju jugoslovenske zajednice 1918. godine" [Geneva Conference on Creation of the Yugoslav Community in 1918]. Istorija XX veka [History of the 20th Century] (in Serbian). Vol. V. Belgrade: Institute of Legal History of the University of Belgrade Faculty of Law. pp. 225–262. OCLC 67000822. Pages 246-247
Comment: Unsure if I worded these correctly or got some incorrect.
Improved to Good Article status by Tomobe03 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 21:25, 9 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Geneva Declaration (1918); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]
Recent good article, certainly long enough. Nothing overtly non-neutral. QPQ done. Most of the sources are non-English or inaccessible, but I can access Jelavich & Jelavich 2000, and the sentence "this prompted Pašić to instruct Serbian ambassador to the United States to investigate if Serbia could at least receive Bosnia and Herzegovina" is quite a close paraphrase. A check on Pavlowitch 2003, pp. 29–35 produced no problems however. Regarding the hooks, I think new ones are needed. The current two lack context establishing what the declaration was meant to be and its surrounding context. There's some very interesting stuff here, for me especially the weird 'dual-monarchy' concept where one monarch was the national council. (I'm not sure how closely that is inspired by the Austro-Hungarian system exactly, but I'm happy to give the sources the benefit of the doubt there.) CMD (talk) 14:11, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that explains much to a reader who is unfamiliar with the subject. Noting here that the paraphrase I mentioned has been dealt with. CMD (talk) 01:47, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Theleekycauldron: The main issue is that i'm seemingly unable to create a good enough hook for this nom. It's definitely possible but my brain seems to turn off whenever I try thinking of one. If I or someone else can't create another hook then I guess I'd have to withdraw. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:26, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As a reader who found the article interesting I'd rather this wasn't abandoned. Hooky aspects to me included the debate over federalisation, the potential for keeping Austria-Hungary, the tenuous State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs, the dual oaths/bodies, and the abandonment leaving the new kingdom constitutionless. CMD (talk) 01:52, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Foreign language and offline source, so taking it on good faith. Rereading I suppose there's some interest in diplomatic arms twisting, a promoter can provide a second opinion but I think we can move past this stage. CMD (talk) 00:56, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]