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Archive 1: April 2005 - October 2006

Warnings about the consequesnes of the Disengagement[edit]

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/319985/jewish/Gaza-

Greenhouse claims =

The text "A widespread opinion has it that Israel left Gazans with a generous endowment consisting of a rich infrastructure of greenhouses to assist their economic regrowth, and that this was immediately destroyed by the Palestinians. " is very misleading as the consensus view is that it was the Israeli settlers that dismantled about 50% of the greenhouses and then minor looting occurred by the Palestinians. the text should be "A widespread but unsupported opinion has it that Israel left Gazans with a generous endowment consisting of a rich infrastructure of greenhouses to assist their economic regrowth, and that this was immediately destroyed by the Palestinians. 216.209.181.111 (talk) 18:26, 14 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Today, it just reads rather ironically given the subsequent decades of systematic carpet bombing of infrastructure in the territory. In inspecting this, I noticed that two of the supporting sources were opinion pieces, and that more generally, the sourcing for this page is not in a good state weak to unreliable in places, entirely absent in others. Plenty to be done beyond the greenhouse blurb. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:19, 15 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've chucked out all the opinion attached to that and gone back to the actual RS news reports. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:35, 15 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Israeli disengagement - from reality!

Although the Israeli settlers then dismantled about 50% of the greenhouses, the Israeli 'Defence' Forces are now attempting to dismantal up to 50% of the houses. So might not the article highlight concerns that - whatever gains were made by the Disengagement Policy - have they not been totally undermined by the hard-hearted actions of this hard-right Government? Also, given all the human rights outrages by the IDF - does not the title need updating?

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 October 2023[edit]

change (in reference 15) "https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/ariel-sharons-dark-greatness'Ariel" (links to page not found) to "https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/ariel-sharons-dark-greatness" (links to article referenced). TheGalach (talk) 19:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done Elli (talk | contribs) 00:22, 13 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Conspiratorial[edit]

This entire article reads like a conspiratorial, left wing funded take on the rationale for the israeli pullout. Theres no doubt in my mind that there were undercurrents and talks of demography. But the stated rationale was that Israel was busy babysitting 8,000 Jewish settlers amongst a million Palestinians and it wasn't worthwhile absent a negotiated peace. 2601:147:C102:DDA0:A02D:F4A8:6365:6D87 (talk) 04:26, 17 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 October 2023[edit]

change "Israel unilaterally disengaged from the Gaza Strip in 2005. The UN and a number of human rights organizations continue to consider Israel as the occupying power of the Gaza Strip due to its blockade of the territory;[12][13][14][15][16] Israel rejects this characterization.[17]"

to

"Although Israel claims to have disengaged from the Gaza strip, "it continues to maintain direct control over Gaza's air and maritime space, six of Gaza's seven land crossings, maintains a no-go buffer zone within the territory, controls the Palestinian population registry, and Gaza remains dependent on Israel for its water, electricity, telecommunications, and other utilities.[5][7]""

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza#cite_note-occ-5

B'tselem, Israel's largest human rights organization, explained, in its comprehensive Jan 2021 report, that only one regime has control of Israel, Gaza and the West Bank and that is Israel. https://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101_this_is_apartheid

On October 8, 2023, Israel unilaterally turned off water and food supplies to the entire population of Gaza. Over the next week, a humanitarian crisis developed. Over one million Palestinian children were cut off from water, food, electricity and medical supplies in punishment for the crimes committed by a terrorist organization on October 7th.

https://www.who.int/news/item/13-10-2023-who-pleads-for-immediate-reversal-of-gaza-evacuation-order-to-protect-health-and-reduce-suffering Lrimawi (talk) 22:16, 19 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the ((Edit extended-protected)) template. Brendan ❯❯❯ Talk 04:49, 20 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 October 2023[edit]

Change spelling mistake “enivisaged” to “envisaged”. Eva1una77 (talk) 08:23, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done Thank you. Liu1126 (talk) 11:13, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unsourced and undated claim[edit]

"Israel and Egypt have concluded an agreement under which Egypt can increase the number of police on its side of the border, while the IDF evacuates the Gazan side. The text of the agreement is not yet public."

Can this be updated? It's not clear when this occurred, and there's no citation or source. 130.179.243.152 (talk) 20:07, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The passage was added in September 2005, here. The Yahoo news item mentioned is archived here. I do my best to avoid editing pages on controversial subjects, so I'll leave it to other editors to decide how to proceed. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 20:59, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 January 2024[edit]

Please revise the last sentence of the 2nd paragraph to include important context on settler relocation. This fact is verifiable using the attached reference under ISBN 9781139493963.

Eight thousand Jewish settlers from the 21 settlements in the Gaza Strip were relocated, receiving an average of USD $200,000 in compensation per family. [1]

Also, please note there exists some typo of "thi" in the very first words of the article. ARationalPerson (talk) 19:50, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Good day—RetroCosmos talk 11:14, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cuycken writes that Israel DOES NOT occupy Gaza[edit]

Hanne Cuyckens is currently being used as a source supporting the claim that Israel occupies Gaza in her article "Is Israel Still an Occupying Power in Gaza?" However, in her conclusion to that article she writes, "Given that there is no longer any effective control in the sense of Article 42 of the Hague Regulations, it is difficult to sustain that Gaza is still occupied." — Preceding unsigned comment added by UClaudius (talkcontribs) 23:47, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  1. ^ Rivlin, Paul (2010). The Israeli Economy from the Foundation of the State through the 21st Century. Cambridge University Press. p. 245. ISBN 9781139493963.