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Okay...so this page already has a ton of example languages. But I noticed there is a lot of representation of closely-related European languages and no Austronesian examples whatsoever. Malayo-Polynesian languages of Indonesia often seem to be pretty weird with respect to reflexives...so maybe worth including? There are many sources on reflexives in Malay languages, Balinese, Javanese, etc. BlakeALee (talk) 21:07, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
How can two things be "exactly similar in meaning but not in use"? At the very least I'd like to see some elaboration of that claim. 24.20.220.254 (talk) 05:45, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Reflexive pronouns suck. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.163.12.114 (talk • contribs) 01:01, 2 November 2005
I think your edits made the 3rd person issue more clear. Good done. 惑乱 分からん 17:35, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Is "reflexive" a grammatical case? If it is, then shouldn't this article be moved to reflexive case? If not, can someone explain to me what is different about it that it's not considered a case the way that "nominative", "accusative", "dative", "objective", "genitive", etc., are? —Lowellian (reply) 03:04, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Can someone put in something about long-range vs. short-range reflexives? I.e. whether a reflexive pronoun in a subordinate clause refers to the subject of the subordinate clause or the main clause. I think I read something about how in Icelandic (I think) reflexives are long-range, unlike in most other languages.
e in English. For example: Sally is going herself to the party.
Um...isn't this just wrong? The speaker means to say, "Please forward the information to ME." Nobody else can do something to "myself". Only I can do something to myself. Similarly, there's no way I can do something to "yourself". --69.33.132.205 21:20, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Since Esperanto is an artificial language specifically designed with the goal of avoiding many of the "problems" of natural language, I don't think examples from it should be included here. joo-yoon 18:37, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
The section on Portuguese was clearly writen by a Brasilian, without any regard for (or knowledge of?) how the language is used on this side of the Atlantic. Even the verb used in the examples - machucar - although very common in Brasil, is almost never used albeit undestood in Portugal. Back to the point, reflexives have a very different construction in European Portuguese, which usually places the pronoun after the verb, separated by a hifen. Thus: vestir-me (I get myself dressed, put on clothes on myself), lavou-se (washed himself, herself), levantámo-nos (we stood up ourselves) etc. Someone should point out this difference and put some examples on the main page, and btw also trim down the brasilian examples to proper balance with the other languages; it is obviously too long. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.81.3.12 (talk) 01:04, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
I notice that example German sentences are not included in this article... do you mind if I write some sample German sentences (using reflexive pronouns) of course :) Anbellofe (talk) 15:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I've just come to this page because it was listed at Category:Uncategorized_from_March_2008 which seemed surprising for a standard sort of topic. Looking at the page, it seems that an anon editor removed most of it in a series of edits on 24 feb 2008, including all the bottom matter such as the category. The interwiki links had been replaced since then, and Icelandic and Latin sections added. I've replaced what was deleted, and put the languages into an A-Z sequence, and done a couple of little tweaks to help. Also simplified the hatnote, as Myself (band) has been deleted. Hope I haven't trodden on any toes! PamD (talk) 16:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
"Moi-même" etc are here claimed to be the reflexive pronouns of French, but se is also a refelxive pronoun and even the only true reflexive pronoun: "Il se lave" - "He washes himself". I think moi-même etc are rather intesifying pronouns: "Ja l'ai fait moi-même" - "I did it myself". N'est-ce pas? 85.231.106.123 (talk) 17:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if the reflexive applies to indirect objects as well as direct ones.
eg. "I want to learn about the world around me." or "I want to learn about the world around myself".
Ought the Hanna Montana song "we got the party with us." to be "we got the party with ourselves?" Pine (talk) 22:23, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
The problem is not direct vs. indirect objects, my friend. The problem is that you weren't taught how to correctly diagram a sentence.
Regardless of whether an object is direct "He dedicated himself to helping her." or indirect: "He assigned the project to himself.", if said object is also the subject of the sentence then the reflexive pronoun is always used.
To answer your question, "I want to learn about the world around me." is correct because "around me" is not an object at all, but rather a prepositional phrase acting as an adjective modifying the only object in the sentence, "world." For the same reason, "We got the party with us" is also correct.
Jeez, and they wonder why SAT scores are in the tank! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.243.65.30 (talk) 18:43, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Wow! I can't believe how badly I messed up my grammar. Thanks for the heads-up, I'm definitely doing to learn how to diagram a sentence.
As for your "SAT" comment, I'll just reference another Hanna Montana song: Nobody's Perfect. Pine (talk) 19:46, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
"In some languages, this distinction includes genitive forms: see, for instance, the Swedish examples below." I searched with Ctrl+F, and found nothing Swedish =/. Should there be any? Sweed Raver (talk) 19:15, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
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