Supreme Court and RS mentioned this film as fictional.

Recently, Supreme Court of India said to the director of the movie to put a disclaimer in the movie stating that 1. There is no authentic data to back up the suggestion that the figure of conversion is 32000 or any other figure; 2. The film represents a fictionalised version,". I think we should change the starting of the article from "The plot follows the story of a group of women from Kerala who are converted to Islam and join the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)" to "The plot follows a fictionalised version of the story of a group of women from Kerala who are converted to Islam and join the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)".


Here are the sources where Supreme court said this. 1234 Grabup (talk) 16:25, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Tayi Arajakate, @Kautilya3, @Tousif.15. Please share your thoughts on this. Grabup (talk) 16:28, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@TrangaBellam, can you please explain why you removed the fictional line from the article? Grabup (talk) 15:36, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This edit. Grabup (talk) 15:43, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Drama films are always fictional? TrangaBellam (talk) 17:24, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Black Kite, Can you please share your opinion on this? I found that you reverted someone’s edit who removed the same thing from The Kashmir Files film. Grabup (talk) 23:49, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The lede describes the film as a 'drama'. It tells us about 'the plot'. I'd say that was quite sufficient to make it clear that it isn't a documentary. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:02, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not an ordinary film, teaser and trailer claiming them to be based on real life incident of 3 girls, and now if disclaimer claims it to be fictional, we should also add it. Same case like TKF. Tousif ❯❯❯ Talk 04:03, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Tousif.15, Agree. Even the PM of India mentioned this movie in his Karnataka election campaign. Grabup (talk) 05:13, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What is perhaps missing as context here is the framing that the film had masqueraded as something else, so maybe what the lead needs to say is: The film originally presented itself as following real events, but this was challenged in court, resulting in the film makers being compelled to inform viewers that the work is fictionalised. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:57, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Iskandar's approach speaks to the issue. But the particular choice of words does not impress me. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:48, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
the short version is: The film claimed to present real events, but was legally required to be disclaimed as fictionalised. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:09, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Iskandar323, @TrangaBellam, If we can’t add this line which @TrangaBellam, removed then please go to The Kashmir Files page and remove the same thing which mentions that film as a fictional film. Grabup (talk) 08:17, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have provided 3 reliable sources which includes BBC mentioning The Kerala Story as a fictional film. Grabup (talk) 08:19, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The movie has some elements of truth as in few (less than 5) women going from Kerala to Syria to join ISIS. It has exaggerated that number. So it is a drama very loosely inspired by real life incidence with a lot of misrepresentation done by film makers in their trailers. It should be called a "drama loosely inspired by a real life incidence" and clarified as "exaggerated to the point of being a propaganda movie". 2604:3D08:1285:F00:8DE5:8E78:EE05:A277 (talk) 12:28, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please provide reliable sources. Grabup (talk) 16:15, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Watch this documentary - Khorasan Files: The Journey Of Indian ‘Islamic State’ Widows. Aniruddh 16:43, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Aniruddh88, Please provide Reliable news articles. Wikipedia can’t rely on documentaries only. If your words are right and if the documentary really confirms it then surely there will be some news articles from reliable sources. Grabup (talk) 19:33, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Genre references

From MOS:FILMGENRE - Genre classifications should comply with WP:WEIGHT and represent what is specified by a majority of mainstream reliable sources. Could we please stick to that, supported by inline citations, and perhaps not microscope and rely on what the courts and the politicians say? — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 07:20, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DaxServer, The Independent mentioned this film a “fictional drama” movie. Is it not a RS?. Grabup (talk) 10:32, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@DaxServer, Same, The Time magazine mentioned “ The low-budget Hindi film directed by Sudipto Sen, which was released in cinemas last Friday, tells the fictional story of three women from the southern state of Kerala who are lured into joining the Islamic State (IS) group after being converted to Islam.”
And The BBC also mentioned “ The Kerala Story, which released in theatres on last week, had sparked controversy months before its release. The film depicts a fictional story of three Indian women from the southern state who join the Islamic State group.” Grabup (talk) 10:37, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I hope these citations are enough? Grabup (talk) 10:38, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia article on Drama states: "In film and television, drama is a category or genre of narrative fiction (or semi-fiction) intended to be more serious than humorous in tone." The categorization of this particular film in the genre 'drama' is quite suitable and appropriate. Rim sim (talk) 04:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Rim sim, Okay then go and change the same thing to The Kashmir Files article. Remove the Fictional line. Grabup (talk) 08:14, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@DaxServer, waiting for your reply. You wanted reliable sources I provided it. Grabup (talk) 08:31, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

External Link

External link to be added as Films set in Afghanistan as the plot does involve a scene set in Afghanistan. Please add this under "external links" on the bottom of the Wikipedia page. 120.150.118.212 (talk) 11:03, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. Please provide reliable sources to support your changes. Thesaurabhsaha (talk) 07:00, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
refer to the "plot" 120.150.118.212 (talk) 11:23, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Thesaurabhsaha (talk) 12:00, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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103.206.172.226 (talk) 20:42, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The movie is real story based.

No it isn't. Bishonen | tålk 20:44, 23 May 2023 (UTC).[reply]
It is loosely based on real story of 4 women from Kerala – Nimisha alias Fathima Isa, Merin alias Mirriam, Sonia Sebastian alias Ayisha and Rafaella, they were interviewed in documentary Khorasan Files: The Journey Of Indian ‘Islamic State’ Widows. Aniruddh 16:47, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

the kerala movie 117.228.62.133 (talk) 09:40, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The Box Office collection mentioned in the source is 213.57 crores. THis however is changed to 266 cr on this page Wikiedit01995 talk 08:14, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's Indian Net collection, worldwide gross is 266 cr. Tousif ❯❯❯ Talk 08:57, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Change

Marketed as a true story, the film is premised on the Hindutva conspiracy theory of "love jihad",[1]

to

Marketed as inspired by true story, the film is premised on the events of Islamic State recruitment in India[2]

Raheja88 (talk) 19:57, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Kerala Story: Film on alleged Indian ISIL recruits gets pushback". Archived from the original on 6 May 2023. Retrieved 8 May 2023.
  2. ^ https://www.wionews.com/india-news/kerala-hc-refuses-to-ban-controversial-film-the-kerala-story-rejects-pleas-589179
This article, like any other on Wikipedia, is based on published reliable sources. We do not present conspiracy theories as factual. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:22, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The article show the judgement of High court, who says that the movie is not against any religion but against isis. All this Love jihad and Hindutva are propagandas.
I request you to change the things which are not related to the movie at all and state the facts Raheja88 (talk) 09:08, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The facts are that we are describing a movie. And doing so based on reliable sources that describe the 'love jihad' as a conspiracy theory. As for Indian High Courts, they would have no jurisdiction over Wikipedia, even if they tried to tell us how to write the article. Which they haven't. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:09, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
that is alright to mark Love Jihad as a conspiracy theory, all I am saying is that this film do not show anything related to Love Jihad.
This movie show how ISIS made recruitments and that is the whole point I am making.
The source I shared is to show that the High court watched the movie and clearly said it is not against any religion but against the terror organization .
Cheers Raheja88 (talk) 10:49, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Again, Indian courts do not determine Wikipedia article content. And your personal interpretation of their ruling is clear and unambiguous synthesis, since the source you cite above says absolutely nothing about a 'love jihad'. Your personal nit-picking about whether a conspiracy theory describing something as a 'jihad' relates to religion, terrorism, or both is of absolutely no relevance here. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:08, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
well, cant argue with a fool anymore.
Have a nice life. Raheja88 (talk) 10:12, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reviews by Film-Critics in foreign media

Any? TrangaBellam (talk) 05:31, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose the question is whether any foreign critics would lower themselves to review this tripe. Since it's the stuff of propagandistic outrage, not a credible installation in the evolution of cinematography, what's there to say, other than it's a disgrace? Iskandar323 (talk) 10:12, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. The film might possibly be the subject of analysis by social scientists and/or historians at some point, but until then, external commentary of any depth is unlikely to be forthcoming. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:49, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, I agree with both of you; I was hoping for something like this at best. TrangaBellam (talk) 19:19, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't able to find any — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 18:13, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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