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The result of the move request was: Already done - page moved. Themeparkgc Talk 00:33, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Virgin Blue → Virgin Australia – Requesting this article be moved under the name Virgin Australia. Virgin Blue have rebranded their operations as of 9am AEST today. Stuartfaz (talk) 23:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Please note that Virgin Blue and Virgin Australia are the same airline. Virgin Blue has not ceased operations, it has simply changed names. Virgin Australia still inherits all the history of Virgin Blue, and as such, does not require a new article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuartfaz (talk • contribs) 00:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 14:50, 21 August 2011 (UTC) OK, well, I'm placing this article on hold although at the moment it's a fair way from passing. Most noticably, some references are lacking for things like:
There are other things that need to be tightened up. Firstly, there is at least one external link in the main text (see WP:EL). The "Controversies" section could do with being in normal prose so it doesn't just list a series of complaints but rather discusses them in a more encyclopedic style. There are also lots of small paragraphs that look a bit messy and unstructured (eg. the "Marketing and sponsorship" section). This may also hide a lack of informative depth, but the Good Article Criteria note that some information may be missing. Image use is good, but the article could do with being more stable (across the hold period would be good enough). Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 14:50, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Please can i have some input here please. Thanks --JetBlast (talk) 02:35, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
V Australia, Pacific Blue and Virgin Australia are now all one company, therefore only one wiki page is required. I believe that all the information should be transferred onto one this page, and have the other two deleted. Jay — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.187.176.165 (talk) 01:48, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
I agree, the three pages should be combined as one as all three airlines now come under the same name Schulzr (talk) 09:24, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I have updated the article to include the 10 New Zealand registered 737-800s. On the NZ CAA aircraft register it clearly says that the 10 738s are registered to "Virgin Australia" and therefore should be accounted for in this article. Access date 2011-12-20 Schulzr (talk) 14:14, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
There is no page for it to be on. Pacific Blue is no more and the 10 aircraft are now operating under the name "Virgin Australia". The 'NZ' in the name on the register is most likely just a legal necessity. Schulzr (talk) 16:37, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
It's got nothing to do with legality, we're just trying to create a concise wikipedia article here. And yes I think the old Pacific Blue article (now named "Virgin Australia International short haul" for some insane reason) should be removed. Schulzr (talk) 16:49, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
That's also a good idea, problem is someone has made a hideous mess of both the Pac Blue and V Australia articles Schulzr (talk) 16:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
The 10 New Zealand registered 737-800's keep getting removed from the fleet table. There is no other article for these to be accounted for so they really should be included in the totals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schulzr (talk • contribs) 14:11, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Initial discussions were held on this topic on JetBlast's Talk Page |
As JetBlast still does not believe it, i'm asking here anyone to provide input or provide a written confirmation to JetBlast that Virgin Australia changed all callsigns, with effect 28/10/2012 00:00Z, to:
There are many sources in forums, which he does not accept, but you won't get a media-release for radio callsigns which changed.
The only proof i can provide is a real life ATC-recording: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ybbn/YBBN-Twr-Oct-28-2012-0730Z.mp3 - This is not a forum, this is a real recording, and the site is well known.
All VBH/VAU/PBY flights operate now as VOZ incl. the new callsign VELOCITY.
--Voz410 (talk) 20:23, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Images to proof:
Since then it is VOZ | VELOCITY
Happy now?--Voz410 (talk) 20:39, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Anyone else around, except JetBlast, who can provide input (eg. capturing the POM flight DJ4191/DJ4190)
--Voz410 (talk) 20:52, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Personal interest: How exactly are all the other Callsigns/Codes verified on Wikipedia?
--Voz410 (talk) 21:14, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
~Cal_t~ Hi there, I have found valid citation for the callsign change. Please insert into article- http://australianaviation.com.au/2012/11/velocity-cleared-for-take-off/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.149.157.47 (talk) 03:09, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Ones made for V Australia
As [virginaustralia.com] mentions in their Glossary, at [1], there are six different airlines currently in operation. Searching on [connectonline.asic.gov.au] and [abr.business.gov.au] you can see:
1. Virgin Australia Regional Airlines Pty Ltd (“Virgin Australia Regional Airlines”) Former name(s): SKYWEST AIRLINES (AUSTRALIA) PTY LTD, SKYWEST AIRLINES PTY LTD http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?SearchText=76+008+997+662 https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch/faces/landing/panelSearch.jspx?searchType=OrgAndBusNm&searchText=008997662 ACN 008997662
2. Virgin Samoa Ltd (“Virgin Samoa”) Former name(s): POLYNESIAN BLUE LIMITED http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?SearchText=90+116+233+517 https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch/faces/landing/panelSearch.jspx?searchType=OrgAndBusNm&searchText=116233517 ARBN 116233517
3. Virgin Australia Airlines (NZ) Ltd (“Virgin Australia (NZ)”) Former name(s): PACIFIC BLUE AIRLINES (NZ) LIMITED https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch/faces/landing/panelSearch.jspx?searchType=OrgAndBusNm&searchText=107549851 ARBN 107549851
4. Virgin Australia Airlines Pty Ltd (“Virgin Australia Airlines”) Former Name(s) VIRGIN BLUE AIRLINES PTY LIMITED, VIRGIN AUSTRALIA (OPERATIONS) PTY LIMITED http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?SearchText=36+090+670+965 https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch/faces/landing/panelSearch.jspx?searchType=OrgAndBusNm&searchText=090670965 ACN 090670965
5. Virgin Australia International Airlines Pty Ltd (“Virgin Australia International”) Former name(s): VIRGIN BLUE INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES PTY LTD, VB INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES PTY LTD http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?SearchText=63+125+580+823 https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch/faces/landing/panelSearch.jspx?searchType=OrgAndBusNm&searchText=125580823 ACN 125580823
6. Virgin Australia Airlines (SE Asia) Pty Ltd (“Virgin Australia (SE Asia)”) Former name(s): PACIFIC BLUE AIRLINES (AUST) PTY LTD, PACIFIC BLUE AIRLINES PTY LTD, BLUE INTERNATIONAL PTY LTD http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?SearchText=79+097+892+389 https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch/faces/landing/panelSearch.jspx?searchType=OrgAndBusNm&searchText=097892389 ACN 097892389
Therefore, there should be separate articles for Virgin Australia International and Virgin Australia Airlines.
The Civil Aviation Safety Authority also recognizes them as different entities: [2]
Also, on virginaustralia.com, [3]: This website is owned and operated by Virgin Australia Airlines Pty Ltd ACN 090 670 965 (“Virgin Australia Airlines”) and contains information and material from Virgin Australia Holdings Ltd ACN 100 686 226 , its subsidiaries and other related companies, including Virgin Australia International Airlines Pty Ltd and Virgin Australia Airlines (NZ) Ltd (collectively, “Virgin Australia”).
Virgin Australia Regional Airlines (formerly Skywest Airlines and Skywest Airlines (Australia) VIRGIN AUSTRALIA REGIONAL AIRLINES PTY LTD ACN 008 997 662
Virgin Australia Airlines (formerly Virgin Blue Airlines) VIRGIN AUSTRALIA AIRLINES PTY LTD ACN 090 670 965
Virgin Australia Airlines (SE Asia) (formerly Pacific Blue Airlines (Aust); (currently) not an AOC holder, therefore no article on Wikipedia as an airline) VIRGIN AUSTRALIA AIRLINES (SE ASIA) PTY LTD ACN 097 892 389
Virgin Australia Airlines (NZ) (formerly Pacific Blue Airlines (NZ), registered overseas) VIRGIN AUSTRALIA AIRLINES (NZ) LIMITED ARBN 107 549 851
V Australia (deregistered on 18/12/2014) V AUSTRALIA AIRLINES PTY LTD ACN 109 260 451
Virgin Australia International (formerly Virgin Blue International Airlines) VIRGIN AUSTRALIA INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES PTY LTD ACN 125 580 823
(??? - formerly named VA AIRLINES PTY LTD, Virgin Australia Airlines Pty Ltd) VIRGIN AUSTRALIA PTY LTD ACN 128 423 450 [dereg.] Thakaran 15:10, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
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There are some minor details of about the fleet which is currently not right.
Examples:
There are four AOCs
Tiger is now wholly owned subsidiary as of October 2014 (I have added this information).
Currently the ADL-DPS MEL-DPS PER-DPS flights which are branded Tiger are actually operating on the VAI AOC (VAI tech crew with Tiger cabin crew) but marketed entirely by Tiger. By the end of 2016 or start of 2017 the Tiger AOC should be flying them into DPS.
Everything not Tiger is VOZ/Velocity with the exception of maybe the VARA F100s on the west coast.
GermanicusCaesar (talk) 12:14, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Most of the information on the holding company is already in the airline article, unlike United Continental Holdings, this article basically does not cover anything the other one already covers. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 09:49, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
There’s a fair bit of info about their acquisition, but they’re no longer used. So some info about why not? However this is sorted out, it needs sorting out. Boscaswell talk 09:12, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Should update the page to add in recent changes to route network such as removal of some flights to NZ, some in AU, MEL-HKG flights and the addition of BNE-HND flights and MEL-DPS + once partnership with NH actually begins Fork99 (talk) 22:56, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
I agree that yes it is a rapidly developing event, however I think anything sensational or drastic such as “permanently ceasing operations” or using past tense should not be in the article until if it actually happens because it hasn’t. I think it’s best to leave it as just voluntary admin for now and possibly “temporary”. I believe the current consensus is that it will come out the other end unless proved otherwise if none of the 10 interested parties invest. Currently the airline is still operational with minimal flights, people are still being paid, there are no further redundancies and hopefully as the CEO has said, it will come out the other end in one way or another. Fork99 (talk) 03:41, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
From research I have found no corroborating sources for the claim Virgin is a flag carrier of Australia. All the evidence I can find suggests that QANTAS is australia's sole Flag Carrier. And after reading that article it clearly states QANTAS is the Flag Carrier. Threrefore shouldn't it be removed from this page and the flag carriers wikipedia Page?Life200BC (talk) 01:10, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
WP:NOTNEWS. Wikipedia guidelines states that primary sources should not be used within articles. The Executive Traveller [executivetraveller.com] is being cited for changes within the fleet list. This news source is mainly based on breaking news stories (such as what Virgin Australia will look like) within the aviation/travel community, so these articles should not be used as references for the time being. These are changes that could be reversed or changed at anytime, so I will revert all edits regarding transfer of aircraft and removal of aircraft until the time is appropriate to add it in. The situation is always evolving. I will keep the 777s being mothballed however, because that is likely to occur, but if it does still contravene the guidelines, feel free to remove it. Fork99 (talk) 06:21, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
The Velocity Frequent Flyer (VFF) article has been badly neglected and as frequent flyer programs are not usually separate articles from the airline itself, it should be merged with this article. I think that it should be mostly scrapped, with a brief section in this article.
Another thing I want to point out. This article is not completely informative because VARA (Virgin Australia Regional Airlines) is barely ever mentioned in this article. You have to dig deep through the article to find it. The reader is completely unaware that VARA even exists if they only read the introduction/infobox, whereas if you read the QF article, you'll find mentions of QantasLink within the infobox (which is easier to find and read) and throughout the article.
I have made an edit which added VARA into the infobox field for subsidiaries in the mean time.
I will also make a proper proposal later on to merge the articles. Or if someone else can, please do so, it would be greatly appreciated! Fork99 (talk) 14:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
As there have been more than one air safety controversies and some have been protracted...2Safe (talk) 06:55, 9 May 2021 (UTC)