General notability notes

Notability of High Schools at WP:AfD

English Wikipedia does not have a Policy on Notability of High Schools, but they are kept when they are properly sourced. These are my own Standards.

A Public High School is notable, and thus will earn a keep vote from me at WP:AFD, regardless of anything else wrong with its article, according to these standards:

A notable High School is defined by these required factors (meeting at least 7 of 10):

  1. Has (or has had 50) or more students
  2. Has (at least) 10th through 12th grades
  3. Has been in existence for (at least) 10 academic years, with historic status if it's over 100 years old
  4. Grants a diploma, GED, or an International Baccalaureate
  5. Pays its teachers (who presumably have Bachelors' degrees or higher)
  6. Is a Public school, or an Accredited Private school, or an Accredited Charter school
  7. Has 2 or more notable alumni, who already have their own articles
  8. Has 2 or more reliable sources, as defined below
  9. Has 1 or more notable academic programs, major annual events, or scholastic sports.
  10. Is located in a country large enough to have significant media presence online (in order to verify its existence, and has competitive sports and other teams that garner media exposure).

Reliable sources for High Schools are one or more of these:

Notability of Streets

1. Inherently notable streets have:

2. Business districts, very long avenues, or streets dividing "slums" from "fashionable districts" are "notable simply by way of their prominence within a city or town." From WP:50k.

Notability of Mayors

Notability of Rivers

I declare that a river is notable if it:

  1. is verifably real
  2. is at least 1 kilometer long
  3. is filled with water at least 3 months of the year, or, in Australia, 3 months in 10 years.

Notability of hamlets and other places

Main page: Wikipedia:Notability_(geographic_features) § Geographic_regions,_areas_and_places

I declare that a hamlet, borough, city, town, or village is per se notable, for English Wikipedia, if it:

  1. is verifiably real and recognized legally' by at least one reliable source, with exceptions and particulars noted below, and
  2. is in an English-speaking country, and
  3. has at least 12 persons living year-round, according a government census taken in the past 12 years.


Estates, developments, and housing projects

In a large city, city as London, England, New York City, or Manila, thousands of people may live in a single project. I declare that an estate or housing project is per se notable, for English Wikipedia, if it:

  1. is verifiably real by at least two reliable sources
  2. is in an English-speaking country
  3. has at least 4,000 persons living year-round, according a government census taken in the past 12 years.

Some examples of notable projects in NYC are Co-op City, Waterside Plaza, and Kips Bay Towers. Obviously, smaller housing projects or subdivisions are usually not notable, but may be merged into a larger article for a street or neighborhood, for example, Sedgewick_Avenue#1520_Sedgwick_Avenue.

Rotten boroughs and ghost towns

Golf courses and country clubs

The vast majority of golf courses and country clubs are run of the mill. There are thousands of golf courses in North America and Japan. Wikipedia is not a directory of golf courses. We have lots of non-notable courses here on this website.

Signs this one is notable:

Signs this one is not notable:

Non-notable places

In my view, examples of non-notable places include:

Notability of historic churches

A church (or temple, synagogue, abbey, convent, or mosque) building may be notable if it has three or more of these factors:

Notes

Notability of attorneys

See also: Wikipedia:Notability_(law) § Lawyers, and Wikipedia:WikiProject United States courts and judges/Notability

"Lawyers are notable for what they do, what service they perform for the bar, for their academic expertise, and what the rights - not just the money - they win for other people." - Me.

To be a notable attorney, a person must have notable accomplishments as an attorney, backed up by references that are reliable. These accomplishments include:

Non-notability

Having one or two of the factors noted above is not enough, but three or four are probably sufficient. Having three factors would be borderline.

Law firms

Local courts

Notability of persons in premodern times

At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blastus, User:Ihcoyc, a/k/a Smerdis of Tlön, wrote:

Keep. A handy rule of thumb is this: people who lived before the Gutenberg era are notable if their names were written down in a text that's been preserved.

Notability of bishops and chief rabbis

Further information: Wikipedia:OUTCOMES § Clergy

Notability of classical music

As a general rule, penultimate and ultimate works of major composers are probably epitomes of their work, and written when they were already famous, so their last work or two are likely to be notable.

Unnamed albums

Notability of Consorts of nobility

My standards here apply to consorts, children, and siblings of nobility and/or royalty:

  1. Royalty are almost always notable, even their spouses, children, and grandchildren (queens, princes, and princesses). In many cases, the consensus has been to redirect the princess to her husband's article. First Ladies are always notable. The parents of a President of the United States are almost always notable. As a general rule, I'd go with a keep for them.
  2. Princesses and duchesses should be considered on a case-by-case basis, based on their relative rarity. There are only a dozen princes of the United Kingdom, and about 27 dukes existed in England for many years. They are not run of the mill. So individual articles on princesses and duchesses will not overrun the Project. Likewise, spouses and immediate relations of Hochadel (High Nobility) or fürstlich (royal, princely and ducal) houses would also be notable and should be a keep. Spouses and minor children of deposed royalty could be notable, because their businesses, charity work, attendance at relatives' notable weddings, or a notable scandal often provides them with media attention. One way to prove their notability would be if the consort or minor child were listed in the first section (list of sovereigns) in the Almanach de Gotha, or are of an old house such as a Uradel, which would have reliable sources. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simeon von Habsburg for an example of a delete.
  3. Spouses of earls, marquesses, barons, counts, baronets, and the like (countesses, marquessas/marchionesses, baronesses, ladies, Hon. Mrs., etc.), are rarely notable in their own right, and they do not automatically inherit notability from their spouses, so would go with a delete for them. Likewise, spouses of freiherrlich (baronial), gräflich (comital), Landgrave, etc. in German/HRE nobility would probably be deleted. However, if their charitable or other work gains them notice, or if they are included in some group biography, then they might be considered notable enough for their own articles, and I would go with a weak keep in such cases.
  4. There are two ways nobility or royalty can become notable in the 21st century: (a) being involved in major scandals and/or (b) being the patrons of notable philanthropies. Having one's picture taken with some people of ill repute is not enough, nor is a one-time socialite dinner. Examples of major scandals would be an sexual affair or financial corruption that gets significant coverage. Examples of patronage of charities would have to show the person is a guest of honor, or has made a significant donation of art or the equivalent of millions of dollars of donations, preferably over a number of years. So the proverbial Duchess in Hanover who divorced her husband after he was found in the arms of another woman, and her 20-year patronage of the Museum of Modern Art would be notable, but a Princess who had only passing coverage would not be. Again, if the only sources are about attending weddings, christenings, and funerals, a redirect to her husband's article might be best. A Spanish Princess who is the cousin of the King is not really notable just for attending family events; redirect her article to her more famous relation.
  5. A rare case for keep would be a member of the notability who has left their Estate to join the clergy; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Father Florian.
  6. In certain rare cases, where it is borderline, a merge, for example Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jan Kanty Zamoyski.
  7. In very rare cases, the widow(er) of a famous person, who helped to create and shape the deceased's legacy, can be notable themselves; see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lily_Klee.

Notability of hospitals

Further information: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Hospitals/Tutorials § Notability

For a hospital to be notable, it must have at least 209 in-patient beds; this number is based on patient-centered care standards - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madonna Rehabilitation Hospital and Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Abdali_Medical_Center_(2nd_nomination).

Hospital foundations are rarely notable - see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/University_Hospitals_Kingston_Foundation.

Notability of skyscrapers

See also: Wikipedia:Notability_(geographic_features) § Buildings_and_objects

For a skyscraper to be inherently notable, it must be at least 60 stories high and notably tall for the city or resort community in which it stands. An older building that is at least 55 years old, and was the tallest in its area, might be considered notable.

A "List of tallest buildings" in X city would have to have:

  1. At least three entries of notable buildings
  2. In a city of at least 75,000 inhabitants, or a notable holiday/vacation resort community
  3. At least one of them would have to be at least 60 stories high, and
  4. A stand-alone list makes sense (which is a lower standard than WP:NLIST).

Notability of hotels

Notable hotels are often, but not always, skyscrapers. A hotel does not have to be a skyscraper to be notable. Nonetheless, I would look for the following (probably at least five of the following factors):

  1. A Paper of record has had one or more articles about it.
  2. Reviews in tour guides, newspapers, magazines, web sites, and glamour magazines. Not all of the reviews have to be substantial; some could be listings or part of a survey (top 10 hotels in X city), but at least two or three reviews in reliable sources must be about the particular hotel.
  3. It is in a major city or resort town.
  4. The architecture is notable or unusual, or was designed by an notable architect.
  5. It is relatively tall (at least 12 stories) or large for its location (depending on the location, a minimum of 90-100 rooms).
  6. It has a well-known bar, large conference facilities, and other hospitality amenities (beach, pool, tennis courts, etc.). Almost all hotels have some meetings; it would have to be substantial (a national conference) or unusual (a science fiction conference in the desert).
  7. It is relatively old for the city or resort (for example, the first boutique hotel in the city, or a hotel over 200 years old).
  8. Its location itself is notable: on a notable square, near a presidential palace, on a famous beach, or in other prime real estate.
  9. Two or more notable events occurred there: a major charitable ball, film premiere, a famous affair (see List of federal political sex scandals in the United States and Oscar Wilde), death of a notable person, society wedding banquet, military/espionage/diplomatic conference, subject of an appellate decision, etc. (but a single such event isn't enough).
  10. The building itself is historic, for example, Grade II* and Grade I (UK) or a National Historic Landmark.
  11. The hotel is not part of a run-of-the-mill chain.

Note: It doesn't have to be a called a "hotel" - it could be a convent, pension, hostel, bed and breakfast, guest rooms, or motel.

Examples of recent keeps from me: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Radisson_Montevideo_Victoria_Plaza_Hotel, Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hotel Rival

Hotels that are low-to-middle (1-to 2-star hotels) are not automatically notable. The problem is that many are just franchisees, and thus there is little day-to-day control by the actual brand. Expensive does not equate to class nor notability. I would not use "sponsored content" to show notability of a hotel. Examples of such chains are Ramada, Hilton, Crowne Plaza, Trump, Scion, and Best Western.

Examples of recent deletes from me: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Renaissance Kota Bharu Hotel, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hotel Palma Bellver, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hotel Best Western Park, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Plaza Hotel, College Station, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Four Points by Sheraton Tripoli.

Notability of YouTubers

It appears that I have been in the minority as of early 2020. Even having 8 million followers does not convey notability. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denis (YouTuber). I have accepted Wikipedia:WikiProject YouTube/Notability as the go-to essay as if it were policy. However, the debates have not been consistent; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shaun (YouTuber).

I think a person with over 700,000 followers on Twitter might be notable; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Porsha Williams.

Notability of Cryptocurrencies

I strongly support the November 1, 20022 version of Wikipedia:Notability (cryptocurrencies). If, outside of articles in the insular trade websites and insider newsletters, there's been a single news article about a crypto thing, then it's not notable.

Notability of public attractions

I support the January 8, 2023 version of Wikipedia:It's_a_castle!. Major ("starred") attractions should be listed both in Wikivoyage and here at Wikipedia.