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The result was Delete--Tone 11:52, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Francis Cavanaugh[edit]

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Seems likely to be a hoax. Neither of the URL's listed work, neither do they produce any results on the Internet Archive and Google books and news seem to be completely unaware of any "Francis Alberto Cavanaugh" or "Francis Cavanaugh + Moran" or "Frank Cavanaugh + Moran".

Also nominating Lucas Cavanaugh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) which appears to have the same issues. Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was No consensus (default to keep). Keilana(recall) 21:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Great Story[edit]

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procedural nomination—version at time of AFD nomination: This has been to AFD several times, yet was found tagged for PROD-deletion. PROD nominator states: "No claim to notability (CSD A7)". User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 23:50, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Evolutionary Faith: Rediscovering God in Our Great Story, Diarmuid O'Murchu Taschenbuch - Orbis Books (USA) (Oct 2002) - 280 Pages ISBN 1570754519 [1]
  • Partnership with Nature According to the Scriptures: Beyond the Theology of Stewardship,H. Paul Santmire , 2003 Christian Scholar's Review [2]
  • Rethinking the Scientific Revolution. Cambridge University Press.Margaret J. Osler, editor. New York:2000. Pp. xii, 340. . Review in American Historical Review Vol 106 No 4. [3]


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The result was keep. John254 01:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ken Smith (architect)[edit]

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IP contested prod —BoL @ 23:35, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete--Tone 11:54, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Konan Big[edit]

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procedural nomination—article version at time of AFD nomination: This was nominated for deletion via PROD despite having been here previously. PROD nominator states: "non-notable local wrestler. Did not comepete in top level of sport. Written a blow-by-blow of various fights." User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 23:23, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Wizardman 02:31, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Burr Road Middle School[edit]

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This is an article about a U.S. middle school. Contested prod. There is no assertion of any special notability in the article. There is no assertion of any notability at the school's website. The article fails Wikipedia:Notability. Darkspots (talk) 23:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete. Davewild (talk) 10:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Nasty[edit]

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procedural nomination—article version at time of AFD: This was nominated for PROD-deletion after having traveled here in October 2007. I concur that the article should be deleted as it has not improved a whit since the AFD-closure (except for my actually just recently putting in a reliable source mentioned in the prior AFD), at which point it was kept on condition of cleanup and addition of references. Interestingly, the entire band lineup has changed in the article since last AFD closure. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 23:06, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete--Tone 11:56, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

College football lineal championship[edit]

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This does not appear to be a notable topic. It cites no references or sources, and all the substantive edits seem to be by one individual. This article appears to consist primarily of original research, and while I am normally of the belief that such articles can be improved by adding sources, I have no reason to believe that any reliable sources on this topic exist. It's an interesting concept, but it should be expounded on someone's personal website, not Wikipedia. --SuperNova |T|C| 23:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy delete G11 (blatant copyright infringement) by User:Uncle G, non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 22:39, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Just for the record, I started it over as a stub. Punkmorten (talk) 22:41, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Archdiocese of San Fernando[edit]

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Substantial copy and pasting from http://www.cbcponline.net/sfpampanga. Requires severe copyediting and needs to not have any of the names on the article. This is an article about the archdiocese itself, not the entire staff. - Jameson L. Tai talkcontribs 22:25, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 19:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: AFD closed ~2 1/2 hours before the end of 5 days of discussion --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 19:35, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Santa Claus Thesis[edit]

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I would tag it as nonsense, except that there actually are scientists making studies like this. This one, however, is unsourced. Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 22:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  1. the thesis was never published
  2. the thesis was written by middle school students (who probably wrote this article making it a conflict of interests)

And

  1. the author's parents "confiscated" the thesis making any proof that the paper is real not likely. it is a joke article written by some middile school kid with too much time on his/her hands. it should be deleted.

Ryan shell (talk) 22:07, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 19:29, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: AFD closed ~2 hours before end of 5 days of discussion --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 19:37, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rez(life) Magazine[edit]

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Contested prod, about a non-notable magazine. Seems to be created by publishers. Carados (talk) 21:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Stefan Legein[edit]

The result was Delete Maxim(talk) 17:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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A junior ice hockey player who has not yet become notable JD554 (talk) 21:17, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you disagree with my 'generalisation'? The Wikipedia notability guidelines for sport say that a person has to have competed at the highest level of the game. A fourteen year old Gymnast at the Olympics is therefore notable, a fifteen year old footballer playing for a Man United youth team is not. It's not the age of the player, it's the level at which they play. If it's a 'junior' level, then they're not notable, if they are Nadia Comăneci then they are. Nick mallory (talk) 13:52, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia guidelines state that playing at the highest level of sport is a self-evident claim of notability. That is hardly the same as stating that no junior players are notable. John Tavares is a highly notable junior player, one of the most talked about hockey players at any level, in fact. Simply playing junior hockey certainly does not confer notability automatically, but one's exploits in junior hockey can make a player notable. Resolute 04:25, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You present no evidence to substantiate that argument. 'Most talked about'? What does that mean? If he's that good he'll soon be playing with the big boys and can have an article thenNick mallory (talk) 06:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I bring Tavares up only as an example. If you wish to debate the merits of an article on him specifically, feel free to begin a discussion on my talk page, or at WT:HOCKEY. Or, if you really wish to test your assumption on the notability of junior players, AfD his article and see how successful you are. Resolute 15:20, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
John Tavares meets the established WP:HOCKEY notability guidelines (see RGTraynor's post below). He won the Outstanding OHL award and Outstanding CHL award. I would say being named the best player in all of junior hockey equates to winning a major award. Patken4 (talk) 20:21, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
News coverage for a month doesn't mean the player will achieve long-term notability – Notability is not temporary. And as Wikipedia is not a crystal ball we don't yet know if he will achieve that notability. --JD554 (talk) 09:22, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Keilana(recall) 22:00, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Dark Knight (video game)[edit]

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There is little to no actual information on the game presented, and no references are provided to support any of the information in the article. I suggest deletion until more information on this upcoming game is actually released. MelicansMatkin (talk) 21:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Speedy delete A7 Unasserted notability by DGG (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). Non-admin closure. --Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 04:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Frederick Dominguez[edit]

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Declined speedy. Article concerns a family recently rescued by the Highway Patrol after disappearing on a Christmas tree-cutting trip. WP:BLP1E ˉˉanetode╦╩ 20:55, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Then Delete. --Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 21:48, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Thriller (album).--Kubigula (talk) 04:53, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Baby Be Mine[edit]

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procedural nomination—version at time of AFD nomination: This was found in the PROD-deletion bin despite a prior trip to AFD. PROD nominator states: "Only notable thing about this song is it comes from the Thriller album, which is the best selling album of all time. A simple look at the Thriller tracklist does this job adequately." User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 20:38, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete and re-create as redirect to Devil's Due Publishing --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 19:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: AFD closed ~15 min before end of 5 day discussion period --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 19:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Josh Blaylock[edit]

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Article was created by the person it is about. Disputed notability. Borderline spam. thisisace (talk) 19:56, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy delete a7, no real notability asserted, or WP:SNOW if you prefer. NawlinWiki (talk) 05:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

James Allen (internet personality)[edit]

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NN person. Being popular on youtube does not make a person satisfy WP:N meshach (talk) 19:40, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy keep, obviously a WP:POINT nomination. Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 19:45, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix[edit]

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This artical is way to long. I don't like it eithier. I want it to be Delated as quick as posibble. (Sazuref (talk) 19:36, 23 December 2007 (UTC))[reply]

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The result was delete. Wizardman 16:44, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Montclaire Elementary School[edit]

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Deletion nomination This is the second time this article has been nominated for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Montclaire Elementary School. This version was prodded, but that prod was removed WITHOUT fixing any of the problems noted. The article is about an entity that lacks any references to extensive, reliable, third-party sources. Should be deleted again for that reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayron32 (talkcontribs) 19:39, 23 December 2007


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The result was Delete: It might be in production, but can't find support for this assertion. No prejudice for re-creation should such evidence emerge. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 20:10, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zygon: When Being Me Is Not Enough[edit]

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Film that hasn't even begun being produced. It's a WP:V and WP:CRYSTAL problem. brewcrewer (yada, yada) 11:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete. Keilana(recall) 22:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Marek Michalak[edit]

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Excuse me, I am not a "one-day puppet". greg park avenue made no effort to contact me. As a Polish-American I know his reasoning re Michalak is inaccurate, however we all have a right to be wrong sometimes. But his assailing me as a puppet is a clear violation of WP:AGF. Yellow-bellied sapsucker (talk) 23:52, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I beg your pardon for my poor English. Of course, instead of "puppet" (Pol. marionetka) supposed to be "sock puppet" (Pol. kominiarka). Sorry for your inconvinience, my hyphen-Am bro, didn't mean any personal offense. greg park avenue (talk) 01:58, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The article is it stands now is non-encyclopaedic for numerous reasons, the most important being a lack of references and links, as you yourself acknowledge. Calling me names is juvenile and foolish and will do you no good. If you feel so strongly about keeping the article, you should fix it. If you can I will ask to have the AfD closed without prejudice. So far the AfD is not objectionable to anyone besides you. Yellow-bellied sapsucker (talk) 03:25, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
107 GHits under the search name: Marek.Michalak pedagog alone. Will do? I don't have to add references just because you AfDed this article for no apparent reason. Change the prod then maybe I do, don't promise although. greg park avenue (talk) 04:34, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There are not 107 Google hits (ghits) - they are Netscape hits and all from Polish URLS. I don't read or speak Polish, regretfully, except for a few bad words. Yellow-bellied sapsucker (talk) 05:19, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Per arguments of Yellow-bellied sapsucker, above. This article now reads like a vanity piece: too long, and unsourced. Nihil novi (talk) 23:19, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete, it should be recreated when reliable information is available.. Keilana(recall) 22:13, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The X Factor 5[edit]

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Series 4 has only just finished, no information has yet been released about series 5, the article is totally unsourced and complete speculation. anemoneprojectors 19:28, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete. Keilana(recall) 22:17, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kilrathi Heavy Destroyer[edit]

Kilrathi Heavy Destroyer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)

Non-notable fictional spacecraft. The article has no reliable secondary sources to establish notability in the real world and fails Wikipedia:Notability. Article consists of a list of statistics, as one would find in a game guide and plot repetition. Wikipedia is not a game guide and should not have extensive plot summaries without real-world information. Pagrashtak 19:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Speedy Delete repost of previously AFD deleted aricle. JERRY talk contribs 22:50, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reggie sears[edit]

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Deletion nomination Was proded and removed without addressing the problem. Subject of the article is a non-notable musician. Merely holding a job, even a really cool one like musician, does not make one notable. A google search doesn't turn up any reliable sources. A check at http://www.allmusic.com turns up a single album, but no reviews and no biography. Allmusic confirms that he exists, but there needs to be more than proof of existence for a Wikipedia article. Jayron32|talk|contribs 19:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was that deletion is nowhere involved. The nominator wanted a merger. Other editors wanted a merger. You can all do mergers yourselves, with the editing tools that you all have. An administrator hitting a delete button is not required. Article merger does not involve deletion at any stage of the process. Do not bring articles to AFD where an administrator hitting a delete button is not part of what you want. Uncle G (talk) 20:25, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arpitania[edit]

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Propagandistic subject with no scientific base. Whatever usefull content it contains should be merged with the Franco-Provençal language article and the article itself should be deleted. Godefroy (talk) 18:45, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks Godefroy to warn me about this AfD. Months ago I deleted every single article linked to Arpitania. In the end, only one sentence is left in the article about the "Franco-Provençal". I did so, because Arpitannie does not exists. It has been created in 1970 and has no cultural, historical or even linguistical factual background. To confirm this I contacted a senior researcher in linguistic of the university of Lyon. This was my 2 cents :) Schiste (talk) 19:42, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Keilana(recall) 22:21, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dance For Destruction[edit]

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Does not appear to meet the requirements of Wikipedia:Notability (music). Only claim to notability I can see is that they have a self-released EP which was recorded with the help of a notable studio engineer. The article is also written in a promotional style by an editor who appears to be a member of the band. —dgiestc 18:02, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was speedy delete as blatant hoax vandalism. This is a patent hoax. The remaining image not removed by the 'bot, Image:B1950-buhen-fort.jpg, is — as the image name actually tells us outright — an artist's impression of Buhen, which is nowhere near the Gulf of Gabès. Other images uploaded by Warkalover (talk · contribs), purportedly of this place, are clearly completely different things and screenshots from computer games. Given that the editor is clearly making things up, I don't see why we should trust any claims that xe might make about copyright ownership. So I've speedily zapped all of the images as well. Uncle G (talk) 22:21, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zarzim[edit]

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Prodded as hoax. Prod contested by creator. Doesn't pass the sniff test for me. The number of sources in this article sits somewhere between 1 and -1. UsaSatsui (talk) 18:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Nomination withdrawn per the discussion below and improvements made while this discussion was open. I even removed the ((coatrack)) tag, which had been inserted about a month ago. Other tags remain in place, but the issues they point are in no way fatal. Non-admin closure. --Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 13:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

William Hunt and Sons[edit]

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Coatrack article allegedly about a company, but written like an ad for one of the company's products. Delete. Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 17:43, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment How is it in any way a coatrack to discuss a company's product in the article for the company? See AFDs galore for individual products which are concluded with a merge/redirect to the company. "Coatrack" is when you write an article about, say, the Texas Schoolbook Depository building to introduce your personal take on the JFK assassination. --Dhartung | Talk 00:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Davewild (talk) 10:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Judges[edit]

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Is this poet truly notable? This article currently reads like self-promotion. Until notability shown, delete. --Nlu (talk) 17:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Davewild (talk) 10:26, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Penis show[edit]

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A blatant hoax that, unfortunately, fits none of the criteria for speedy deletion. As one might imagine, there has never been such a show on Swiss TV. I'm bringing this to AfD to prevent future recreation. Sandstein (talk) 17:10, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Davewild (talk) 10:28, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John Lachlan[edit]

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Non-notable, no inbound links, no google hits Steven J. Anderson (talk) 15:54, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. John254 01:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Xmonad[edit]

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I AFDed this in May. The result was No Consensus and the argument was presumably that xmonad may yet become notable. It hasn't. The tiny article from OSNews is still the only mention of xmonad in a notable publication. The references all go to either the author's pages or of their friend's from #haskell.

This is clearly an insignificant hobby project that doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. Therefore I propose its deletion - Catofax (talk) 10:31, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  1. XMonad has been actively and continually developed since, with many improvements and extensions contributed since. I think it's covered a good 4 releases since May with another imminent, and XMonadContrib (the extensions) has grown even more, to ~100 addons.
  2. Catofax's assertion that the OSNews article is "still the only mention of xmonad in a notable publication" is laughable. He should look harder at the article - I've linked to quite a few bits of coverage. Quite aside from the other OSNews article, all the Web coverage, the Haskell community report and Weekly News, there are: two invited talks, one by Simon Peyton Jones of Microsoft for OSCON (a pretty major programming conference) and one by Don Stewart covering his paper; oh, did I mention the peer-reviewed paper published by Don Stewart and Spencer Janssen in the ACM's Proceedings of the ACM SIGPLAN workshop on Haskell workshop? (I stress the paper as some of the previous AfD voters were interested in academic results and supported because they believed something would come of it; well, something did, and I understand the authors are planning an expanded paper for JFP.)
Don Stewart and Spencer Janssen are the authors of xmonad. It is utterly dishonest of you not to mention this. If I write an article about something I made, do I get a wikipedia page? Catofax (talk) 18:42, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The issue here is the ACM's coverage, that is a highly regarded, verifiable, external source. And yes if you write an article in a major publication about something that something then gets a wikipedia page. jbolden1517Talk 20:12, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Popularity counts. As noted by someone else in the 1st AfD, there are many many hits for XMonad online. It's included in many of the major distros and Unixes (about all that are missing are Fedora and SUSE - Fedora though seems to be packaged but not yet through the submissions process), and by the best statistics one can get for this sort of thing, XMonad has passed StumpWM and probably dwm in popularity.
  2. And finally, a bit of history for those who weren't around the first time: remember that the nominator came here from a 4chan discussion intending to get this article deleted, and that 8 months later, his account's contribs are still dominated by XMonad-related activity (and he hasn't exactly been expanding the article, if you follow). --Gwern (contribs) 01:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"The external sources are not independent, and so this does not erase the concerns. The people who work with the program telling each other about it. An article on other subjects with sources of this nature would be rapidly deleted without much argument. WP seems to be asked to make an exception on this subject, because of the acknowledged technical competence of the various editors here. It could perhaps reasonably be argued that these are the only available sources, that knowledge of such programs is diffused in this manner, and that the importance is shown by the impressiveness of the work itself. I'd be willing to accept such a complete re-orientation of the notability rules if we accepted this for all phenomena and projects that have similarly blog-based and self-publishing sources. I am open to the argument that anything adequately documented on its own terms should be included--I might even support it. What I do not accept is that it should apply only to this subject area DGG 02:09, 24 May 2007 (UTC)"

I would now say that the principle is becoming accepted generally. We can and should use the best sources available, as long as they appear to represent a responsible view of the subject.

I was advised of this AfD, and this shows the benefits of doing so--based on the improved contents and conventional sourcing, and the change in apparent general acceptance of sources, I changed my opinion on the article. Fair notice isn't canvassing, but promotes consensus. DGG (talk) 05:33, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete all. Davewild (talk) 10:29, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aliana[edit]

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Alleged up-coming CD from Aliana Lohan. Completely unsourced. I can find no evidence that such a release will occur. Article creator is also responsible for other unsourced and questionable articles [5] concerning Aliana Lohan. It is a crystal ball at best. Evb-wiki (talk) 15:09, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are alleged singles from the alleged up-coming CD:
Rumours from you (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
My Life Is My Life (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The Girl That I Used To Be (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
--Evb-wiki (talk) 15:16, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Article deleted as a nonsense, hoax article. Dreadstar 20:39, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


WAH[edit]

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Unreferenced neologism; no evidence this exists outside Wikipedia. Biruitorul (talk) 14:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Davewild (talk) 10:33, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SupeRoute[edit]

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Articles should assert the notability of the subject with verifiable sources. This subject, a proposed light rail scheme, could turn out to be notable but without any sources it is unclear how serious a proposal it is and until such time as there are appropriate sources available this article should be deleted. Adambro (talk) 14:21, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Found a brief mention of this scheme at http://archive.nics.gov.uk/rd/070116a-rd.htm but not really convinced this would justify an article unless more info can be found. Adambro (talk) 14:29, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Tyrenius (talk) 02:05, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Willie Wind[edit]

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Willie Wind (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)

Per WP:RS and WP:BIO. No references given and cannot find any on the Internet other then ones that point to Wikipedia, or the Geocities website (not reliable WP:RS) given in a previous edit. Also fails to satasify notability, his sole claim to fame appeared to be designing the Coat of arms of Israel, which was removed in April for being erroneous. Epson291 (talk) 13:55, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral I cannot find any information on him one way or the other. Epson291 (talk) 14:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Davewild (talk) 10:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Black & Decker Pivot Vacuum[edit]

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Not notable product, wikipedia isn't indescriminate list of products. Pharmboy (talk) 13:34, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete as vandalism, blatant hoax. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:15, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strollbco[edit]

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Hoax Malcolma (talk) 13:21, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong delete. Yep. The user lifted the first sentence from Convergys, a company against whom it appears he/she bears a grudge [6] then made up the joke list of staff. Who knows why. We can only wonder. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 13:55, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Redirected to List of United States business school rankings by its author. Non-admin closure. --Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 13:51, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Business school ranking[edit]

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POV piece that states the opinion of one magazine. Delete. Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 13:14, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Sources have been shown here, and some are used in the article, poorly written is not an argument for creating an AFD. Notability is shown. Consensus has been apparent. Non-administrator close. Result was keep. Rt. 16:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ashok Banker[edit]

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Doesn't show any notability for the person. Poorly written. The man himself isn't notable, so I say Delete. IslaamMaged126 (talk) 12:12, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


I fully agree. Clearly the page is being used for some kind of personal vendetta. There is nothing useful or informative on the page, nor is Banker himself worth such debate and arguments. Please Delete. ashwinblake

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The result was Delete. Davewild (talk) 10:40, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fantasexuality[edit]

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Doesn't seem to be notable enough of a term, fails WP:NEO and WP:DICT. Dougie WII (talk) 12:14, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I don't think that would fix the fact that it is original research, plus unrequited love is about real people, which is different than the topic of this article. Pharmboy (talk) 15:21, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ah yes, I forgot to read the Center's text in greater detail: 'Many equate the love a fantasexual experiences with so-called "unrequited love." We here at the Center hope to quash this dismissive and insulting myth. Fantasexuality is not about "unrequited love," but rather about obstacles and illusion. In the fantasexual's reality, love would be requited if not for obstacles, obstacles which, oftentimes, the fantasexual is intentionally keeping firmly in place, or else obstacles that would need to be dismantled by some outside, freakish force that will most likely never happen. Fantasexuality is about the keeping in tact of illusion at all cost' Sarsaparilla (talk) 17:54, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Davewild (talk) 10:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ruth Gibson Elementary School[edit]

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Non-notable primary school. Dougie WII (talk) 11:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn and there is no consensus to delete.--Kubigula (talk) 20:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jay Spearing[edit]

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Contested PROD. Original concern was "No evidence that the player meets notability criteria for sportspeople as laid down at WP:BIO". – PeeJay 10:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Merge all to Marco Casagrande. Keilana(recall) 22:27, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1000 White Flags[edit]

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Non-Notable work of art; lists a prize of dubious (at best) importance. Legionarius (talk) 17:05, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


I am also nominating the following related pages for similar non-notability reasons, in what looks like an astroturfing campaign around Marco Casagrande:

Treasure Hill (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (2nd Nom)
Treasure Hill is a neighborhood in Taiwan. Although it could merit its own article, right now is just an advertising for Casagrande. My vote is to stubbify.
Land(e)scape (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The largest media coverage, accordign to the references, was two small articles in Architectural Review. It did not win any prizes. My vote is to merge with Marco Casagrande.
Bird Hangar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Zero mentions. My vote is to merge with Marco Casagrande.
Redrum (installation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Small media coverage. Maybe a mention in the Anchorage article and/or merge with Marco Casagrande.
60 Minute Man (architecture) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Its biggest claim to fame is that one of NYT staff liked it. Please note the article is about the art event as a whole, not about the piece of art properly. Did not win any prizes.
Casagrande & Rintala (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (former discussion)
small company, non-notable output. My vote is to merge with Marco Casagrande.
Potemkin (architecture) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Zero mentions. My vote is to merge with Marco Casagrande.

The editors for those articles are all working on Marco Casagrande and non-notable articles related to him; they usually include links in other legimate articles. The article was previously identified as the center of an astroturfing campaign and stubbified. Other articles, all about non-notable architectural works: Treasure Hill, Land(e)scape, Bird Hangar, Redrum (installation), 60 Minute Man (architecture), 1000 White Flags. As a bonus, Casagrande's first company: Casagrande & Rintala.


Related checkuser:Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/IP check#Yiyihsiang

Former related deletion discussions: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Human (newspaper), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Micro urbanism, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Treasure Hill, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Casagrande & Rintala, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Future pavillion, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sami Rintala. --Legionarius (talk) 15:30, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While I disagree with some of these nominations, I very much appreciate Legionarius riding herd on this spam problem. --A. B. (talk) 20:10, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Casagrande is notable and not up for deletion (even if not for being an artist, as a mercenary/writer). As for the other articles, I do not think any of them stand for themselves (even with credible references), the mentions in the author's article look good enough to me. Treasure Hill is a special case; I think it merits an article for itself, just not as a promotional article for Casagrande's work; the way it is now it is just a promotional article. Anyway, all those articles are here to be discussed. --Legionarius (talk) 21:10, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Pastordavid (talk) 10:36, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Merge to Carmine Falcone. Keilanatalk(recall) 23:56, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mario Falcone[edit]

Mario Falcone (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)

Merge into Carmine Falcone. This minor character is mentioned in one Batman story, barely appears in another, and really only matters in one specific story. Merge into the article featuring this character's more important father. Doczilla (talk) 10:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Keep, nomination withdrawn. Davewild (talk) 10:45, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barrett, The Honors College[edit]

Barrett, The Honors College (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)

Notability. Suggest merging with Arizona State University article. - Jameson L. Tai talkcontribs 10:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(rm AfD. Original contributor has satisfied notability guidelines and is beginning to follow the WP:UNI article guidelines.)- Jameson L. Tai talkcontribs 10:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Davewild (talk) 10:47, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History Repeating (Conflicts)[edit]

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A short essay about the fate of human civilisation. But not an encyclopaedia article. The magazine article linked to has only a tangential relevance to the subject. Prod removed without comment. Iain99Balderdash and piffle 09:36, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete all. Keilanatalk(recall) 23:57, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Haunted Hero (Ghost Whisperer episode)[edit]

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Fails WP:EPISODE. Hasn't "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Article also got tagged with a "copyvio" tag. Author removed to the tag and rewrote it, but the rewrite, IMO, is poor. brewcrewer (yada, yada) 08:41, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related page for basically the same reason.

Don't Try This At Home (Ghost Whisperer episode) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The Underneath (Ghost Whisperer episode) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - added by User:Sgeureka after Lankiveil's !vote
because if you redirect without going through AFD you end up at ARBCOM. Ridernyc (talk) 18:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was No consensus, defaulting to Keep, references added, disagreeement over whether they establish notability. Davewild (talk) 10:51, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sir John A Macdonald Junior High School[edit]

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PROD was removed by User:Jerry without an explanation, so I'm bringing it to AfD. No assertion of notability has been made for this school and, per search and discussion on the talk page, it does not appear that it can be. It is unreferenced and orphaned article, which is not a reason to be deleted, but indicates a lack of notability when other factors are taken into account. It is unlikely to make a plausible redirect. As it is a Junior High School, as opposed to High School, it does not fall under the "inherently notable" guidelines of any of the WP:SCHOOL proposals. Cheers, CP 07:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep, Little support for deletion, consensus is it does not violate WP:NOT, some support for a merge bbut no consensus here for such a step. Davewild (talk) 11:00, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wii System Software[edit]

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This article seems to lean strongly towards: What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_directory and Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information. This is better suited for a gaming wiki, so a transwiki seems like a good idea. RobJ1981 (talk) 06:59, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete. Davewild (talk) 11:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Apokalipsis[edit]

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First of all, this article is a direct copy-paste from this website, and is not written in anything close to encyclopedic tone. Even if rewritten, though, this doesn't appear to pass WP:MUSIC. No reliable and/or independent coverage. shoeofdeath (talk) 05:02, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Yes, I also looked to see if that record was in fact released by Universal and found this not to be the case. shoeofdeath (talk) 06:03, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep. Keilanatalk(recall) 23:59, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Jagielski[edit]

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Procedural nomination. Article was previously deleted at AfD and nominated for deletion review. Deletion was not overturned, but a new draft in userspace was created with additional references. Consensus at deletion review was that new references improved article beyond qualification for CSD G4, but questions remained if the new references did indeed satisfy notability requirements. Conflict of interest issues may also be present. As this is a procedural nomination, I am neutral. IronGargoyle (talk) 04:43, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Also, please read WP:SPS, which is directly on point: "Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer; see WP:BLP#Reliable_sources." /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 06:48, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Redirect to Sudama. Keilanatalk(recall) 00:02, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kuchela[edit]

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Delete no doubt minor character in Hinduism, notability isn't inherited from one's friends. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:04, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete then recreate as Redirect→World Heroes#Mudman --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mudman (SNK character)[edit]

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This is a character that does not have real world information to establish notability. It reads like a game guide, and there is no current assertion for improvement. TTN (talk) 20:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The article is in need of a rewrite and a few more citations of reliable sources, but the major bases like notability and verifiability have at least been covered. AFD has been live long enough to generate consensus. The result of this discussion was keep. (Non-administrator close) Rt. 15:30, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Erin Brown[edit]

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Delete nn bit part and porn actress fails WP:BIO and WP:PORNBIO. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:28, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep. She's starred in many movies that have been extensively rebroadcast on cable and thus she clearly meets WP:BIO. And WP:PORNBIO does not really apply here as she is not exclusively a "porn" actress and in fact has never made any hardcore movies. Qworty (talk) 13:50, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hugh Baird Hotel[edit]

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no references at all , no website, all references ralated from clones of wikipedia Stefanbcn (talk) 12:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC) - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Keep with ((cleanup-afd)) affixed. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:20, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Illuminated Film Company[edit]

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Delete nn company, fails WP:CORP Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Revert back to disambiguation. Keilanatalk(recall) 00:04, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

True Blue[edit]

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Not enough notability, since the sources are from the same locations and they're blogs (one with the same name as the user) Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 20:17, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's three separate blog posts, plus there is an article on him in an upcoming Yo! Raps Magazine (largest onling magazine in Europe), and several other blogs are trying to post his music/find more of his music. All of this with only four tracks actually out there for the public to hear. He has received radio play on Grand Rapids 104.5 WSNX radio station. Hiphophead88 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:21, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, the blog with the same name as the user (Hiphophead) doesn't mean anything, because hip-hop head is a very common phrase, and does not imply the user hiphophead made the blog... Hiphophead88 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Note: The deleted edits are at True Blue (producer). --kingboyk (talk) 01:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep: I will affix ((cleanup-afd)) to accompany the already placed ((refimprove)) as the contributors here have provided references that need to be included in the article to establish notability. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:27, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Von Sneidern[edit]

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Article doesn't make it clear why he would pass WP:MUSIC, as his albums seem to be self-released. However, there are some incoming links that suggest he may be notable as a guest musician, which isn't really discussed here. I thought I'd list it here rather than PRODding to see if somebody recognizes him and can add independent evidence that he has a "cult following" (which might imply MUSIC #7) or is notable as a guest musician. Rigadoun (talk) 20:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ibrahim Abd El Adheem[edit]

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No notability other than coming eighth in Super Star 3, a version of Pop Idol in Arabic countries. The only external link is to an interview with the subject in Arabic. No edits of any substance to the article since it was created two years ago. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 15:44, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 13:07, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cindy Hovde[edit]

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Sole claim to notability was coming 7th in the Norwegian version of Pop Idol. Is signed to her father's record label. No other information of any substance since the article was created in 2006. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 15:25, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Delete based on information. Thank you Punkmorten (talk. Shoessss |  Chat  01:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:31, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

University of Limerick Computer Society[edit]

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Non-notable student club with no assertion of notability, and no external sources. So far as I can see, its only possible claim to notability is for having organised an apparently non-notable open-source software conference, the article on which was merged into this one. Most of this article is trivia which is probably of interst only to most dedicated members of the society, but has no place in an encyclopedia (such as the story of the lost server and a list of participants in a LAN party); I was tempted to attach an ((inuniverse)) tag to it. However a one-paragraph mention of the computer society could be incorporated in the article on its parent body, the University of Limerick Students' Union. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was redirect Rigadoun (talk) 07:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Webbie discography[edit]

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Redirect - This page supplies no additional information, and was easily merged into the original Webbie article. At this time there is no reason for an individual article. I recommend a redirect to the original article until there is enough information to suffice an individual article. Manderson198 (sprech) 18:25, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Redirect to Comodo. Keilanatalk(recall) 00:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Melih Abdulhayoglu[edit]

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Here's a person on the razor's edge of WP pro-forma notability: a consistent spokesperson for an Internet company that gets a press mention maybe twice a year. WP has a page for the company, Comodo. Abdulhayoglu is notable for nothing else other than his founding of the company. His page was created by User:Lakshmin, which is likely Lakshmi Dinamoni, a Comodo employee. I spent a bit of time stripping out the POV and puff language from the article, which is now being reverted back in a couple times a week by an anonymous SPA account. WP should cover Abdulhayoglu on the Comodo article; it needn't host an executive bio for him as well. Oh, no references, either. --- tqbf 14:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Comment --- suggest you re-check your references:
  1. The MSNBC story carries a photo of Melih, but his name appears in the article only once. The article does include significant coverage of Melih's company, Comodo; I am not nominating Comodo for deletion.
  2. The Google search provides no additional reliable sources writing about Melih. It does capture all of Comodo's press releases (not valid sources) and several blog op-eds. Predictably, the #1 hit for Melih in Google is WP.
  3. The news search includes no articles written about Melih; it does include several written about his company, which already has a WP article. I am not nominating Comodo for deletion --- just a poorly referenced article about an individual executive of the company, written and edited by an employee of the company.
  4. The Scholar search is populated entirely with patents. Patents aren't reliable sources and do not establish notability, although a reliable source writing about it would.
I don't believe you have uncovered any references that verify Melih's notability. --- tqbf 20:30, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – First of all “Happy Holidays”! Now to your Comments. I believe MSMBC is a Notable and Verifiable source. That alone I believe establishes Notability. The second comment as regards to quote; “…provides no additional reliable sources writing about Melih.”. I am going to act stupid here and ask What additional sources do you require? . The third Comment; “….it does include several written about his company” means what? His company deserves an article, but He doe not. Finally , the forth reason, I leave to all the other Editors to make up their own mind and hopefully a keep vote is made. Once again Happy Holidays. Shoessss |  Chat  21:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think we're saying the same thing. Clearly, there are reliable sources for Comodo. There simply aren't any that write about this guy. Comodo is his company; when I say, "I'm not nominating Comodo for deletion", I'm saying, "his company merits an article, and he doesn't". --- tqbf 21:21, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The "additional sources" I require are spelled out in WP:N --- a topic is presumed notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. So:
  • A single quote from the subject in an article about the subject's company is not significant coverage.
  • A press release from the subject's company is neither reliable nor independent.
  • A patent from the subject is neither reliable nor independent.
There are no references in the nominated article. I've looked for them (and studied yours) and haven't found any that qualify. The onus is not on me to find references at this point. This article should be deleted. --- tqbf 21:25, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Keep --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 13:02, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spike Guys' Choice Awards[edit]

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NN television event, unneeded list. No real media coverage, only sources to be found are random blogs and side-mentionings on notable and semi-notable sites. ~ | twsx | talkcont | 09:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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  • Keep – Based on new search criteria - Duh - thanks for the advice .Wikidemo (talk just shows you, it’s all in how you search. Happy Holidays all. Shoessss |  Chat  11:47, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Article cleaned up. Tag removed. Pejorative.majeure (talk) 23:13, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Keilanatalk(recall) 00:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lucinda Barry[edit]

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Article for a Psych character who appeared only in the pilot before being replaced. She plays no significant role in the series and carries little to no notability. Shoemoney2night (talk) 03:45, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete. Keilanatalk(recall) 00:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John Fenich[edit]

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Peripheral character in Psych who has never appeared on-screen or been mentioned by name in the show. Entirely un-notable. Shoemoney2night (talk) 03:37, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete.   jj137 17:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Progression of women in hard rock[edit]

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Original research. Delete. Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 03:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. DS (talk) 15:37, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Animalia (film)[edit]

Very unlikely that this film would have such an A-list cast but absolutely no references or search results that I can find. Another user proposed deletion on the basis that this may have been created by a sockpuppet known for creating hoax film articles. I tagged as a hoax but all tags have been removed by anon editors with no comment. Canley (talk) 03:03, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Final Fantasy. Non-administrator close. Rt. 20:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Genesis Rhaspodos[edit]

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Not notable outside of the game universe. Pharmboy (talk) 03:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Keilanatalk(recall) 00:20, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Advanced Theory[edit]

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The article asserts notability but does not establish it. There are very few google hits for this particular theory, and the few there are seem to be repeats of the material here. Only sources are a blog and one magazine article. At best, it could be a subsection in the respective articles of some of the wikilinked people mentioned. The might also be conflicts the guidelines in WP:BLP as the article makes statements about living people. The only source of those statements appears to be the blog. Delete TheRingess (talk) 02:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Speedy delete a7, no assertion of notability. NawlinWiki (talk) 03:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ghost Press Bed[edit]

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Not notable film. Author can't provide citation, was never released except on youtube, claims it was screened at a University but citations can't be provided (and probably doesn't matter). Youtube link was removed, but still fails notability. Nice guy, but still fails test. See article talk for more. Was refused G11 after youtube.com link was removed, went afd.Pharmboy (talk) 02:36, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Keilanatalk(recall) 00:21, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tuition in Canada[edit]

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I really don't think that tuition in Canada is real deserving of a topic. It's just a list of facts and statistics, and WP:NOT an almanac. Any relevant information can be merged into other articles (specific universities, provinces, or Education in Canada). -Royalguard11(T·R!) 02:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Deleted and redirected. Jeffro77 (talk) 07:00, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Jehovah's Witnesses[edit]

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Unverified and possibly satirical band Jeffro77 (talk) 01:36, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedied. Singularity 05:04, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Famous Breakdown[edit]

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New band with no CD, notability. Keep removing speedy tag so here we are. Pharmboy (talk) 01:34, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Keep, per improvements to the article during AFD. Davewild (talk) 11:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Punta Gorda Middle School[edit]

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Middle schools don't get a free pass (HS do) and there is no assertion of notability. Was declined speedy (?) so we go here. Pharmboy (talk) 01:33, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result wasdelete. DS (talk) 15:14, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In the life of...[edit]

Alleged up-coming TV show. Completely unsourced, and I could find no evidence that there is such a future show planned. Crystal ball at best. Evb-wiki (talk) 01:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Keilanatalk(recall) 00:23, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Makai[edit]

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I'd like to suggest the deletion of the article since the word makai (魔界, which roughly means "world of supernatural beings" or "world of evil" in Japanese) is usually not used aside from fictional works (I'm talking about Japenese usage, of course), and even within the territory of fictional usage, it has likely no definite interpretation (as the article's opening prose suggests), hence this article would not likely be nothing but a repository of non-notable fictional worlds which have no connection to each other aside from the naming (that is, the currect state of the article). Neko jarashi (talk) 01:21, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete. Davewild (talk) 11:13, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Julianne Alister[edit]

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Alleged fictional character allegedly from a future TV show. The character is supposed to be played by Aliana Lohan, but the article is unreferenced. Zero g-hits. Probably wouldn't be notable even if the show is real. Evb-wiki (talk) 01:10, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Keilanatalk(recall) 00:28, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Live from the Republic of Texas... EP[edit]

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This promo EP has 5 G-hits that are not on Wikipedia. Prod tag removed. Unsourced, non-notable. Fee Fi Foe Fum (talk) 00:53, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Track listing and some other minor content can be merged to improve the other article. --NickPenguin(contribs) 02:48, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Speedy delete G3 Vandalism by Dlohcierekim (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). Non-admin-closure. --Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 15:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Avius cani[edit]

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No google results (except wiki-copy pages). The supposed reference is "unpublished" and equally gives no google results (except wiki-copy pages) - both when misspelling it "Britsh" (as done in the article) and when spelling in correctly. The supposed author of the source, Mary L'Estrange, also cited in the main text as one of the few people who've witnessed this supposed species, likewise gives no google results (except wiki-copy pages). So, the entire article, created entirely by a single recent user and an unknow IP address, fails for WP:V. I have forwarded a link to this deletion proposal to the WikiProject Cryptozoology Rabo3 (talk) 00:47, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. DS (talk) 15:24, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nigerian Conglomerate[edit]

Seems like a hoax. Can't find any references whatsoever to this supposed organization. Picaroon (t) 00:38, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Redirect to Nevada Wolf Pack football. Keilanatalk(recall) 00:31, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Red Defection[edit]

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Search for "Red Defection" on Yahoo--one hit, Wikipedia. No coverage to speak of under this name--not on ESPN, not in Vegas or Reno media. Blueboy96 00:38, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge After seeing some other suggestions, merging would be a better solution; Nevada Wolf Pack football would probabaly be a better place than Chris Ault, although this could use a mention in Ault's article. --NickPenguin(contribs) 16:28, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete. Keilanatalk(recall) 00:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gropegate[edit]

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Recounts the whole sordid story of allegations made during Gov Schwarzenegger's gubenatorial campaign. Was tempted to go ahead and honor the speedy tag, but I feel the events surrounding are notable enough to bring it here. It's a notable subject, and perhaps the article could be improved to have balance rather than just deleted Dlohcierekim 00:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- I debulked the article to remove the contents form general view. Dlohcierekim 00:37, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

delete or redirect if anyone has ever used it independently of Arnie. Is a POV fork IMHO to enable them to discuss this more than would happenn in the main Arnie article.Merkinsmum 15:59, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Why do we need someone using a term "independently of Arnie" when it's a term primarily associated with him? Are you suggesting we have a generic article for every time someone applies the term "gropegate" to a sexual scandal? --Dhartung | Talk 17:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment See my !vote. The problem is that this is a poor article, and the section in the AS article is better. I don't see the point unless this is both as good/better than that section AND longer to the point that it would violate WP:NPOV#Undue weight in the AS article. --Dhartung | Talk 06:01, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete + salt. Wizardman 02:36, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yung JoJo Tha Prince[edit]

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The subject is a 14 year old rapper. This article has been speedily deleted numerous times, but the article now asserts notability, although all of the claims appear to be false. I could find no evidence that this person is actually signed to Grand Hustle Records. The claims that he was featured on the Screamfest '07 tour and appeared in an episode of Law and Order SVU appear to have been copied from the Tiffany Evans article. His first single "Rain on You" doesn't seem to have made much of an impact.[41] It sort of gives new meaning to the phrase "one-hit wonder". Bongwarrior (talk) 00:28, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. Wizardman 02:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ompassi[edit]

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Contested prod - holiday made up by two college students two years ago. None of the references have anything to do with the actual topic of the article. Top Google hit is this article; all the rest are unrelated (mostly hits on the word "compassion" - apparently Google does partial-word matches now.) Zetawoof(ζ) 00:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Redirect/merge to Dark Passion Play. Keilanatalk(recall) 00:37, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Poet and the Pendulum[edit]

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Non notable song, not released as a single. Mostly trivial and unsourced, includes what are probably copyrighted lyrics. Rehevkor (talk) 01:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fair enough. I'm still unsure how the article asserts notability. Rehevkor (talk) 03:25, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Notable to Nightwish fans but to Wikipedia? Rehevkor (talk) 17:31, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Keep. Keilanatalk(recall) 00:44, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of people and organizations associated with Dominionism[edit]

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unsourced list of people; removal of unsourced material results in NPOV violation Will (talk) 20:17, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's an excellent band name. --Lquilter (talk) 20:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wasn't that a Nick Rhodes side project? Or was it Yoko Ono? ClaudeReigns (talk) 09:07, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
At any rate, this is no more synthesis than any other list. --Lquilter (talk) 18:28, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was redirected to McStroke - "Peter Strokes His Meat" was a working title for that episode. --Stormie (talk) 00:58, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Strokes His Meat[edit]

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episode of Family Guy that has gone way past its projected airdate; doubts about existence Will (talk) 20:29, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was merge with List of American Dad! episodes. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:05, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Frannie 911[edit]

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article about a future event with no sources Will (talk) 20:37, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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sources include tvguide and fox press releases. Was initially scheduled to air in DEC, but due to strike and shortage of eps it was moved to Jan 6, 2008, although the xbox live marketplace release never changed from the initial date so its already available there.Grande13 (talk) 21:35, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Further comment -- this also would apply to most, if not all, of the episodes of this show.--Fabrictramp (talk) 19:55, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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