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October 23

Coos County, New Hampshire

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The result of the discussion was: rename, keep redirects. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:34, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming:
Nominator's rationale. This is a procedural nomination, made without recommendation.
It follows a series of incomplete out-of-process moves by @JPxG and @Epicgenius, and a similarly messy incomplete attempt at a CFD nomination. Both editors acted a little WP:RECKLESSly, but their undoubted good faith is clearly demonstrated by their courtesy in promptly accepting my suggestion of withdrawing the incomplete CfD.
This nomination includes all the categories named after Coös County, New Hampshire. It allows single a decision to made on whether the categories should follow the use of an umlaut in the title of the head article Coös County, New Hampshire, while ensuring that whatever decision is made, the categories are named consistently with each other — i.e. the umlaut should be used on all of them or none of them.
I have no preference either way, and at this state I don't intend to form a view on which usage is correct. My concern is solely that:
  1. whatever format is chosen should be applied consistently to all of the relevant categories,
    and
  2. the proposal should be properly notified so that any objections can be considered before ~300 pages are recategorised.
Note that I propose that per WP:CATRED, any move should retain a redirect from the unaccented title. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:26, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Cfd French Air and Space Force renaming

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:36, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Stripping in film

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Films about striptease. The contents will need to be purged. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:59, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Stripping in film to Category:Films about stripping
Nominator's rationale: Rename to make it more clear that this category should be applied only when stripping is a significant feature of the film rather than an incidental element. DonIago (talk) 19:05, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dimadick: Your suggestion of an alternate rename has gained traction. Does that change your iVote? RevelationDirect (talk) 06:10, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Jason A. Quest But when do we apply to those "other categories" ? Like the category Category:Films about drugs. Movies are included in the category where that is not the main plot device used in the film. Movies featured in the category where either there is barely any mention of drug use or distribution or none at all. Like the movie The Life. Or where it is not what the film is all about like the film Yelling to the sky is included and I personally watch this movie and it is more centered to the struggles of a young urban teenager dealing with social issues around her. We can't have these included with movies like Pain & Gain or New Jack City where the film is actually legitimately about drugs. And I found these errors from some minor ddigging through the categories. Either these rules apply to these film categories or they don't. ֆօʍɛɮօɖʏǟռʏɮօɖʏ05 (talk) 12:19, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If you feel that a film category includes films that don't prominently feature the category element, you're within your rights to remove the films from the category. Anyone who wants the category included merely needs to provide some sourced discussion within the article that supports the inclusion of the category...though personally a plot summary that makes it obvious something is a strong element of a film is usually good enough for me. As I mentioned above, films shouldn't be categorized based on purely incidental elements per WP:CATDEF. DonIago (talk) 13:15, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes: if there are problems with other categories, fix those other categories. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 13:47, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Photonovels

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 19:12, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These are two different terms for the same thing. (I'd also suggest splitting it into two words, as in the article title Photo comics.) Jason A. Quest (talk) 15:53, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Whale watching locations

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The result of the discussion was: delete. I have listed the current contents at Talk:Whale watching in case user:Grutness or any other editor may wish to ensure that the list in the article is expanded as necessary, or add "see also" links to the list where appropriate.– Fayenatic London 16:41, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: That somewhere is a good place to watch whales is a non-defining characteristic for many of the articles in the category (e.g. Andenes, Cowichan Bay) and some (e.g. Magic Point) make no mention of whales.  This is also subjective - how often do whales need to be seen for a place to become a whale watching location?  Example previous similar CFDs:  windsurfing, railfanning.  For info: there is Whale_watching#Locations.
Those articles that are specifically about whale watching (currently just Depoe Bay Whale Watching Center) should be moved up to Category:Whale watching. DexDor (talk) 20:08, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are many problems with that - 1. "a significant part" is subjective, 2. Few of the articles in the category would meet that condition (most state that whale watching takes place, but not how significant it is to the local economy), 3. It's not a permanent characteristic (in most of these places whale watching tourism wasn't significant 50 years ago and it may decline in the future), 4. Why should the tourism industry have that special status (we don't have for example "Category:Places where sheep farming is a significant part of the local agriculture industry")?, 5. All 3 of the leisure activities mentioned support economic activities (e.g. windsurfing equipment/training and railfan magazines). DexDor (talk) 07:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(1&5) If this category was limited to places where whale watching is the primary industry then most (possibly all) of the current articles should be removed from the category and the category should be renamed to make it clear. We don't usually categorize locations by their primary industry (and it wouldn't work well as a categorization scheme because many places have no clear primary industry).
(2) We can't categorize articles based on what an improved version of the article might say!
(3) A website should, of course, be categorized as a website - just like a lighthouse (for example) should be categorized as a lighthouse. Categorizing towns, islands etc for an activity that has sometimes taken place there is very different. Category:BMX tracks is for articles such as Olympic BMX Centre (and see CFDs such as this).
(4) "The tourism industry has some special status ..." may be your opinion but afaik tourism has no special status in WP categorization. The "similar categories" you refer to are not similar at all; they are mainly categorizing articles that are specifically about hatcheries etc, not categories articles about towns etc. DexDor (talk) 13:58, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The category's sole defender had made some strong arguments which have neither been disproved nor accepted by others yet.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 11:10, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think there's only one article in the category that's specifically about whale watching. DexDor (talk) 07:53, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Kangleipak

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The result of the discussion was: merge to categories for Manipur and keep a redirect. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:01, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Kangleipak is an alternative or specifically ethnic POV term for Manipur and its former Manipur (princely state). These categories are just duplicate WP:POVFORKs of Category:Manipur and Category:History of Manipur and so on. Gotitbro (talk) 10:13, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Võnnu Parish

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The result of the discussion was: merge to parents. MER-C 19:13, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One entry. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:59, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ülenurme Parish

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The result of the discussion was: merge to parents. MER-C 19:14, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One entry. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:59, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rõngu Parish

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The result of the discussion was: merge to parents. MER-C 19:14, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One entry. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:59, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Puhja Parish

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The result of the discussion was: merge to parents. MER-C 19:15, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One entry. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:59, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mäksa Parish

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 19:15, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One entry. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:58, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Konguta Parish

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The result of the discussion was: merge to parents. MER-C 19:16, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One entry. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:58, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Haaslava Parish

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The result of the discussion was: merge to parents. MER-C 19:17, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One entry. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:57, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rannu Parish

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The result of the discussion was: merge to parents. MER-C 19:18, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One freakin' entry for the rural municipality! Clarityfiend (talk) 07:56, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Miscellaneous TV/Film character redirects to lists

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 19:18, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 October 13#Category:Miscellaneous television episode redirects to lists St3095 (?) 04:31, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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