January 25
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 page in category. Let'srun (talk) 23:53, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Category:New Zealand music educators
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- The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:25, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category. If the decision is to keep the "educators" name, then we should merge and then rename, given that the other category is a decade older Mason (talk) 14:42, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Fictional tubers
- Nominator's rationale: Only one article/subcategory here that is actually properly categorized, and they're also in another category within the same group. Unnecessarily specific category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Move to Category:Tubers in popular culture - that should be a better name for the category. (Oinkers42) (talk) 18:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- There is not even a Category:Vegetables in popular culture, only a Category:Works about plants; making one specifically for tubers would seem a little overspecific. I'd support a merge to "works about plants" though. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:51, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- I mean, there is enough for a category, I just only chose that title to make it clear with Mr. Potato Head being in there. (Oinkers42) (talk) 20:09, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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- Five articles is enough to keep this as worthwhile for navigation. But "tubers" is unnecessarily wide in scope, as the contents are all about potatoes in fiction, not other tubers e.g. yam. List of fictional plants has an entry identifying Tree-of-Life as like yam, also stated in that series' main article Known Space, although the detailed section Pak_Protector#Tree-of-Life does not mention yam. Rename to Category:Fictional potatoes. – Fayenatic London 10:47, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Category:Nightclubs in Belfast
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Category:Jewish humanists
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:24, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: These seem to be overlapping categories. Mason (talk) 03:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Oppose Humanistic Judaism is a Jewish denomination. Not every Jewish person who subscribes to the ideology of humanism necessarily has any connection whatsoever with the Humanistic Judaism denomination. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 03:42, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 page in category Let'srun (talk) 20:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Shouldn't it be merged to Category:College football coaches in the United States? Marcocapelle (talk) 22:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- That category is only for categories of teams' coaches. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:53, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- That's just how it's currently used. That would be a valid reason if it were Category:College football coaches in the United States by team. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Merge to Category:College football coaches in the United States per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- That wouldn't make sense; then we'd have 10,000 coach articles sorted by team, and then a random one in the container cat. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:55, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- That is no reason to oppose. The other categories are actively being discussed and can be discussed for merging in the future. However, I think a mass nomination would be beneficial to discussion. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:59, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Merge per Marcocapelle. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Keep. Category now has 2 articles in it; part of a standard categorization scheme. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:14, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 page in category. Let'srun (talk) 20:36, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Keep. This was a 30-year college football program; there will be more seasons that are notable and will be created in the future; there is also an accepted categorization scheme that all college football teams with seasons should have categories. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:51, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- "potential for growth" is no longer a valid reason to keep. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- And WP:CFB does not make the rules of WP:Categorization. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- What part of that page, specifically, does this violate? BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Delete for now. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Keep per BeanieFan11. If "potential for growth" is no longer a valid, then that policy needs to change. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- No. WP:SMALLCAT is no longer backed by community consensus. The category can be recreated when a sufficient number of articles exist. For now, it must be merged (see my revision above). –Aidan721 (talk) 05:45, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Note this category now contains two articles. Jweiss11 (talk) 02:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- This category now contains three articles. Is that enough to withdraw the nomination? Jweiss11 (talk) 16:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Category:Major League Soccer coaches
Copy of speedy Cfd
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- Category:Major League Soccer coaches to Category:Major League Soccer head coaches – Category is specifically for head coaches. Current name would confuse and make it seem like any assistant/goalkeeping/youth coach should be included. Should also apply to each subcategory in this category RedPatch (talk) 15:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Oppose speedy; the main article is "List of Major League Soccer coaches". Personally, I agree but you should start with moving the article and then (if that is successful) taking this (and all related categories) to full Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:41, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Courtesy ping @RedPatch: in case you did not see the comment above. -2pou (talk) 18:21, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Category:Toronto FC coaches to Category:Toronto FC head coaches – Category is specifically for head coaches. Current name would confuse and make it seem like any assistant/goalkeeping/youth coach should be included RedPatch (talk) 15:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- I have only tagged these two categories now Ymblanter (talk) 21:36, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Oppose speedy; see above reply. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:42, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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- Nominator's rationale: Opposed speedy till the main article was moved which it has been now (see here). Rename category to match article title, as well as subcats. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Pinging @RedPatch from the speedy Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:20, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
LGBT people by sexual orientation and nationality
- Nominator's rationale: rename, I am proposing changing this category name to include transgender, non-binary and intersex people in this category. Giovanni 0331 (talk) 19:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Oppose. Merge and delete instead. Several recent CfDs have reached the consensus that these interleaving “by identity”, “by gender identity”, or “by sexual orientation” category layers are unhelpful, and we have been in the process of getting rid of them. It is much simpler and clearer to have all the LGBTQ+ identity subcategories directly in the parent category, grouped under a sort key. (See Category:LGBT people by religion for an example.)--Trystan (talk) 22:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Upmerge all, "by identity" is too vague and one would expect the subcategories to be in the parent category anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Upmerge all per above replies. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:44, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Category:Shahid Afridi
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:22, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category with only one article besides the main article. WP:OCEPON. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:54, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:45, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Dodgy members
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:22, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Per the parent category, Category:Musicians by band, "categories should not be created when only one member has an article." In this case, no member from the band has an article (albeit there was one but it was recently redirected). StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:42, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Delete, as creator. This clearly goes against the spirit of the category, which is that it's for bands with multiple members with articles. (Which makes me wonder why I created it.)--Mike Selinker (talk) 23:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Western Samoa
- Nominator's rationale: Even though the name Western Samoa was used until 1997, all other categories after 1961 use "Samoa", see 20th-century establishments in Samoa and 20th century in Samoa. – Fayenatic London 13:16, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Comment That makes me wonder if the other categories have it wrong. Would love to hear from someone more familiar in the topic area whether "Samoa" was in common usage during this period for the country, excluding American Samoa. (I'm sure it was in use to describe the archipelago). - RevelationDirect (talk) 15:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Not an expert by any means, but a look on the National Library of New Zealand's Papers Past website (NZ and Samoa are quite connected, even after independence in 1962) seems to suggest that "Samoa" was used to refer to Western Samoa reasonably often. ― novov (t c) 03:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Rename for Now per WP:C2C since these categories should match the the rest of the adjacent branches of the category tree. No objection to a later broader nomination though. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:47, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Transgender prostitutes
- Nominator's rationale: Possibly due as a broader topic, as well as being the preferred terminology in newer sources. GnocchiFan (talk) 20:43, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Not all sex workers are prostitutes. Apokrif (talk) 20:48, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Agreed, but all prostitutes are sex workers, which is why I am proposing the merge that way around. I mention that this is the preferred terminology as in many newer sources, trans prostitutes are routinely described as sex workers instead of prostitutes, which may lead to issues in categorisation and WP:OR. But that's just an additional consideration - the main thing here is that is this a big enough topic to split into two separate but interrelated categories at this point? (Personally, I am on the fence on this, but proposing the merge to seek further editor input). - GnocchiFan (talk) 20:50, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- If prostitutes are called sex workers nowadays then Wikipedia's sex workers categories are too broad. This requires a broader discussion, it is not specifically a transgender topic. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:54, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- See the above - I only mentioned that due to possible overlap, the terms are not synonymous. My main concern is that the trans-specific category may not be large enough to have this level of subcategorisation, which may not apply to the other sex worker categories. GnocchiFan (talk) 21:02, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- There are 5 articles and 2 redirects in the category, that is usually considered (just) sufficient. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:06, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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- Rename per nom. There are others which should be renamed as well.--User:Namiba 18:47, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- The nomination is for merging not renaming. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Countesses of Barcelona
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. This category "lists the Countess consorts of the County of Barcelona, for the regnant Countess of Barcelona see: Category:Counts of Barcelona." Mason (talk) 01:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Development of individual fictional characters
- Nominator's rationale: Not sure how many articles used to be here, but a single article does not a category make. This should probably be removed as it is no longer relevant. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Merge into Category:Development of specific works - I found one additional article for this category (Development of Bugs Bunny). However, that would still be too small of a category. Creating this category, however, would allow it to contain other articles such as Development of the DC Extended Universe, as well as allow it to be a parent to both Category:Production of specific films and Category:Development of specific video games. (Oinkers42) (talk) 18:47, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Convocations of the Mazhilis
- Nominator's rationale: Mazhilis redirects to Mäjilis Gjs238 (talk) 15:27, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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- @Gjs238 and Marcocapelle: ping for opinion. Place Clichy (talk) 13:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Dutch Caribbean
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- The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: I speedied this to "Dutch diaspora in the Caribbean" per previous Cfd but it reversed for some reason. While I initially preferred the rename to Category:Dutch diaspora in the Caribbean to match all in its parent categories I realize now that most of these places are still under Dutch control so I'm not sure if this would count as a "diaspora". Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- The main article is also Dutch Caribbean but as the article explains it is a sort of a historical region, no longer officially existing as a unified polity but the term still being used in common language. Argueably the whole tree might be deleted in order to just keep Dutch Caribbean article. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:15, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @Marcocapelle, would you be in favor of creating a diaspora category for Dutch Caribbean, like there is for Category:British diaspora in the Caribbean that would have subcats on Dutch Caribbean culture and people of Dutch descent living beyond as well as within Dutch-controlled lands in the region? Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:49, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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- If any next step, it should be nominating the entire tree in a fresh discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Keep, per main article Dutch Caribbean. This is a valid category tree among the larger Category:Dependent territories to gather all Dutch territories, past and present, with different statuses, in the Caribbean region. That's a totally different topic from Dutch diaspora in.., and yet another sign that Fooian Barian adjectives are a very wrong way to name categories for diasporas. Place Clichy (talk) 14:29, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Captive people
- Nominator's rationale: "Captive" is so vague as to clearly violate WP:NONDEF. In the real life version it could be seen as an invitation for biased category additions based on one's subjective interpretation of what a "captive" is. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:40, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Oppose, this is not as vague or "non-defining" as you claim. Both of these categories are simple in definition, and it is more of a defacto container category. What all of these subcategories within have in common are just people who were legally or illegally captured by other people. There is nothing confusing about the scale or scope of them. AHI-3000 (talk) 20:46, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- I should note that there is a specific template to indicate something's a container category, which this wasn't marked with. However, even so, I don't think it is large enough to require such a category and would qualify as a narrow intersection. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:59, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @Dimadick: What do you think about this nomination? AHI-3000 (talk) 20:25, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Delete, prisoners, slaves and kidnapped people are widely diverging groups of people. Possibly convert to dab pages. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:50, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- "dab pages"? AHI-3000 (talk) 21:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Delete Not even worth a dab page, which is for distinguishing things with the same name. Captive does not list types of situations, and Captive person and Captive people do not exist. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:34, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Oppose I agree with AHI-3000. Dimadick (talk) 04:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Fictional professors
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional academics. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:20, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: merge, we categorize by occupation (academic), not by title (professor). For real life, Category:Professors does not exist either. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- No objection as category creator. BD2412 T 18:54, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Support - "professor" means different thing in different countries, too. A British professor is a higher rank than an American professor, for instance. Grutness...wha? 02:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Support Per nom. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Merge per nom. Professor is ambiguous. Place Clichy (talk) 14:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Support We categorise not by those who profess, but by those who undress. ——Serial 16:58, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Wikipedia CD Selection
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:20, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Delete this and all its subcats for the same reason as Template:WP1.0. This serves no purpose. Category:Wikipedia CD Selection-GAs is completely identical to Category:GA-Class_articles except that it does not contain subcats. There's no argument for historical value. It's anachronistic because this contains all current GAs and none of the former GAs. Category:Wikipedia CD Selection - People only contains one entry-not useful! Schierbecker (talk) 23:07, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Can't find the link at the moment, but the total list of pages that was selected was put on a page when relevant categories were last discussed, so deleting the categories shouldn't lose too much. Perhaps Category:Wikipedia CD Selection could be moved to Wikipedia:Wikipedia CD Selection/Categories, the others have nothing to preserve. CMD (talk) 08:27, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Delete sub-categorybut keep the main category as I've added the project's sub-pages to it. Remove all non-porject sub-pages from it. Gonnym (talk) 11:21, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- this category has been obsolete for a decade. I set it up for a very important purpose which is not longer needed. BozMo talk 20:56, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Delete All Unless the project plans on making more compact discs. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:13, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Dominican health professionals
Category:Dominican-tambora players
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Dominican Republic percussionists. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:19, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Category is explained as being by instrument, but parented as "by nationality". Currently only contains 1 player, and I checked what-links-here on Tambora (Dominican drum) without finding other pages where this skill appears WP:DEFINING. Broadening its scope to be clearly a nationality category will probably be more useful. – Fayenatic London 15:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Rename per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Categories: By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies by century
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Category:By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Hackney constituencies
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Category:Unopposed by-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Liverpool constituencies
Category:European diaspora in Panama
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:18, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Only one category layer. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:GA-Class Nazi Germany articles
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Category:Snowdog Art Trails
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- The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:17, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to both parents. Currently only one member, about the trails overall. There have only been four trails, so even if all of them got their own articles, which currently seems unlikely (they are all given a short paragraph or so in the main article), there would only be a total of five articles. Grutness...wha? 09:25, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:British diaspora in the Caribbean
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:15, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. All these categories contain one subcategory and/or one article. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Note: delete categories per discussion below. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:05, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Ethnic Kazakh people from the Soviet Union
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Soviet Kazakh people. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:15, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: rename to the same format as many of its siblings in Category:Soviet people by ethnicity. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:38, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Support AHI-3000 (talk) 17:17, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Ethnic Kazakh people from the Russian Empire
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Kazakh people from the Russian Empire. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:14, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: rename, Kazakhs is always an ethnicity (in contrast to Kazakhstanis) so adding "ethnic" in the category name is redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:36, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Support AHI-3000 (talk) 17:17, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Sears
- Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category, where the only two pages in the newer category could be linked instead of siloed. Mason (talk) 05:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Oppose as Sears and Sears Holdings are not the same thing. Sears is a chain of retail stores (+catalogs +e-commerce), as is/was Kmart. Sears Holdings was a corporate structure that held the two chains. Sears stores are now mostly operated by either Grupo Sanborns (90+ stores in Mexico), Transformco (US) and Sears de Guatemala. Kmart stores are now entirely under Transformco. We need to distinguish between Sears as a brand and chain, which should hold most of the content, versus Sears Holdings, which should be limited to holding Sears, Kmart, and any holding company-related articles. Keizers (talk) 14:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Ok... so how would you feel about renaming Category:Sears to Category:Sears (brand) to help make that distinction clearer? I also think that a concise description in the category page would be extremely helpful. Mason (talk) 23:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- I'm not crazy about it, because really, it's about the Sears stores and catalog, not so much the brand (I mean, I understand that it's a brand that is franchised to Transformco, Grupo Sanborns and Homemart, S.A. for Guatemala), but people might understand to be consumer brands like Kenmore, Craftsman, etc. Maybe Sears (department store)? Keizers (talk) 00:15, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Category:French Quebecers
- Nominator's rationale: French Quebecers constitute the vast majority of Quebec residents and have since the first settlers arrived in the 17th-century. As such, this category fails WP:EGRS. Moreover, most of those in this category have no claim to French ancestry in their biography and have been placed in it without evidence, making it a major problem for WP:BLPCAT. User:Namiba 16:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Delete per nom. Probably the same applies to parent Category:Francophone Quebec people. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:08, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Comment French Quebecers are Quebecers who are not Quebecois, but originate more recently from France, thus are not ethnic Quebecois. It should be so scoped, and cleared of pure-laine[1][2], de-souche[3][4][5], who are desceneded from the pre-British conquest with roots in Quebec prior to 1760. Any person descended from France that arrived after 1760 would appear in this category, those who have roots older that this would be removed -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 07:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Keep and change according to IP above JM (talk) 23:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- I may have misunderstood the purpose of the category but then I would like to see sources that support this specific meaning of the term. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Comment: I note that there is no Category:Québécois people or similar, so if they are not intended for this category, I don't know where they're meant to be... Grutness...wha? 10:42, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Note, we already have Category:Quebecers of French descent. Anyone with demonstrably French descent can be placed there. There is no purpose for this category otherwise.--User:Namiba 14:44, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- This whole tree is problematic. This is the (incorrect, IMO) description of Category:Quebecers of French descent: "This category lists Quebecers of French descent who are not francophone or whose first language is unclear. For Quebecers who known to be francophone see Category:French Quebecers."--User:Namiba 14:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Delete per nom. It is useless to categorize members of the dominant ethnicity in a place. The difference cited above for recent arrivals from France is reflected by Category:French emigrants to Quebec. Place Clichy (talk) 14:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- That's not the same, since it doesn't include the descendants of the immigrants to Quebec that would be in that indicated category -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 19:19, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- I'm sorry, I just don't get this comment. Note that French Quebecer redirects to disambiguation page Québécois. So either term can refer to, depending on context, any of the following:
- all people of all Québec
- people of Québec City
- the dominant ethnic group associated with descent from the early French settlers
- 20th- or 21st-century moves from France
- descendants of the former
- The IP wrote above that
French Quebecers are Quebecers who are not Quebecois, but originate more recently from France, thus are not ethnic Quebecois
. This contradicts the current 3,500+ articles in the category, which are mostly Québécois people with no recent link to immigration from France. Descendants of recent migrants from France who were born and grew up in Québec are not distinguishable from the Québec majority.
- There's no logic to any of it, and as a result people from that group are scattered inconsistently between several categories. Québec people clearly would benefit more from other categorization schemes such as People by populated place in Quebec or People from Quebec by occupation that this pseudo-ethnic category. Place Clichy (talk) 14:01, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Category:Texas secession movements
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- The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:05, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: These categories are largely overlapping. User:Liz [6] brought the category to my attention. Mason (talk) 04:03, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Reverse merge to match article name. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:06, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I have tagged Category:Texas secessionism.
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Category:Organizations designated as terrorist by location of organization
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Organizations designated as terrorist. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:05, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 02:53, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Establishment category Indian state
- Nominator's rationale: To match ((establishment category Indian state)) (which for transparency I WP:BOLDMOVE'd to its current location from ((estcatIndiastate)) per WP:TPN; that is also why I am avoiding WP:C2D). HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Category:YouTube channels by year
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- The result of the discussion was: split between Category:YouTube channels by year of launch and Category:YouTube channels by year of closure. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:07, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Such categories are usually split. MSMST1543 (talk) 02:42, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Splitting makes sense, launch and closure are quite different things. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:41, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Yeah definitely in the 8/9 years since I created the cat there have definitely been many channels closed. Might need some clarification though. Some of these channels are technically not "closed" as in deleted or terminated, but just inactive (some are tied to eponymous series that have ended), but does that count as closed? (question for other editors, though imo something like that isn't necessarily "closed"). Soulbust (talk) 22:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- That is a fair question. Maybe the closures subcategories should be deleted for that reason. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:37, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Support splitting per above. Let'srun (talk) 00:36, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Phytogeographers
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. These are small categories that doesn't need to be diffused by nationality, yet. Mason (talk) 02:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Merge per nom, to the first two targets. "Geographer" does not seem very applicable to many articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- From what I understand, this category is a grandchild of Geographers by specialty, so perhaps manual merge to geographers, when appriopriate? Mason (talk) 23:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Category:International universities
- Nominators' rationale: duplicate categories with no clear difference. Rename the first category per its own parents, and as it contains both universities and colleges. The difference between a university and a college is anyway not consistent from one educational system to another. Place Clichy (talk) 01:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Support per nom, "multinational" appears to coincide with "international" in this case. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Oppose. Not the same. "Cat:International Universities" are bodies which may have a single owner in multiple locations. (Like Northeastern University. Based in Boston, but also in Toronto, Ontario, Canada etc..) That might be better as just "Cat:University or College campuses (by location)" The include by country, state, town, city et al.
- "Cat:Multinational universities and colleges are schools" which may be owned by multiple governments and thus no any single government may own it anymore than any other. Is far different (Like University of the West Indies.). One is type of governance. One is type of ownership structure. Not an improvement. CaribDigita (talk) CaribDigita (talk) 06:58, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- I don't think so, an international university is defined as funded by the governments of many countries and thereby is controlled by the officials from the government of different countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- I don't think that this difference reflects the way the categories are currently populated, which I assume is the product of honest mistakes. Practically, I don't think either that this difference can be usefully maintained in the long run in the form of two separate categories. Note that universities or colleges established under the governance of several countries will also, most often, have a physical presence in these several countries. You cite the University of the West Indies, but it wasn't in any of these categories until I placed it there yesterday. Place Clichy (talk) 14:14, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Support all per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:30, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Support all per nom. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:04, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Category:Pubs in County Dublin
- Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer with only 1 sub-category for Dublin (city). Merge for now until it can be populated. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:06, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:20, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Oppose The sub-sub-category Category:Pubs in Dublin (city) has a healthy population of 17 entries. The concentration of pubs in the heavily populated city easily justifies the separate category. Either keep the existing hierarchy of categories or delete the "middleman" Category:Nightclubs in County Dublin and retain Category:Pubs in Dublin (city) within Category:Nightclubs in the Republic of Ireland instead. Spideog (talk) 22:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- The proposal is to remove the "middleman". I think you need to re-read the nomination. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:02, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- I am not understanding Spideog's alt proposal. I think they actually support the nomination, which is to get rid of the "middlemen" categories. For clarity, I support the nomination. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:01, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Merge per nom. I think that what Spideog suggests is exactly what this is proposed here: keep the separate category Category:Pubs in Dublin (city) but place it as a direct child of Category:Pubs in the Republic of Ireland, removing the "middleman". Place Clichy (talk) 10:29, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Thank you, Place Clichy. That is what I meant. Spideog (talk) 12:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Category:Bookstores by year of establishment
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Bookstores. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:56, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer that is also misnamed. There are no bookstores established in year categories. Merge –Aidan721 (talk) 01:04, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Support per nom Mason (talk) 02:45, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Warehouses by country
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- The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:56, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: All have 1-3 entries. WP:NARROWCAT. Upmerge per below. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:Crematoria by country
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- The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Many of the articles are crematoria and cemeteries so not much merging is needed. All contain 1-2 entries. Note, I removed the lone Nepal category as it didn't fit and is now empty. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:35, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Support per nom. Mason (talk) 05:41, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Category:19th-century mayors of places in Oklahoma
- Nominator's rationale: Oklahoma did not exist before 1907 so there are no 19th century mayors of places in Oklahoma. There are 19th-century mayors of places in Oklahoma Territory and Indian Territory TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 00:06, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Support, and its parent category Category:19th-century Oklahoma politicians should be considered for renaming for the same rationale.--TommyBoy (talk) 22:16, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]