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Hello, Keizers! I love your new article San Diego County Administration Center. Do you think you could expand the prose text a little, so that I can nominate it for Did You Know? Thanks! --MelanieN (talk) 17:27, 10 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sure will! I added some photos I took to Commons and then to the article too. Keizers (talk) 18:32, 10 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Great! It is long enough now. I will start thinking about a hook. I may tweak it a little too. You might consider moving the pictures around a little so they don't interrupt the text - maybe place the gallery at the bottom of the page. Also I think the photo of the building itself (nice photos BTW!) should be included in the body of the article; maybe move it up out of the gallery, and put the west entrance detail there instead.--MelanieN (talk) 19:34, 10 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

OK, it's nominated. You can follow the nomination here: Template:Did you know nominations/San Diego County Administration Center. --MelanieN (talk) 18:42, 11 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Whoa - I just discovered it is on the National Register of Historic Places. I didn't realize it earlier, because it is registered under the name San Diego Civic Center. Listed May 16, 1988, listing # 88000554 . We need to add that to the article, prominently, and we may need an additional userbox. Do you want to add this or shall I? Here's an infobox creator tool: http://www2.elkman.net/nrhp/infobox.php . --MelanieN (talk) 18:52, 11 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello! Your submission of San Diego County Administration Center at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Hi! Thank you for creating this article which was nominated for DYK, however, I noticed some issues when reviewing it. There appears to be close paraphrasing and a lack of inline citations in some places. If you or the nominator fix these problems, it should be good to go. Thanks! MountainRail (talk) 23:12, 11 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, Keizers. United States Custom House (San Ysidro, California), an article you either created or significantly contributed to, has been nominated for Did you know consideration to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk) 02:40, 23 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

On 23 June 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article ‪San Diego County Administration Center‬, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 1938 the San Diego County Administration Center was dedicated by President Franklin D. Roosevelt before a crowd estimated as 25,000 people? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/‪San Diego County Administration Center‬. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:39, 23 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I haven't forgotten about this article, I have just been busy in Real Life. I will definitely nominate it for DYK, it's very deserving. I was going to ask if you wanted to nominate it yourself this time - but it turns out that the DYK process has suddenly gotten a whole lot harder. In theory, and until recently, the usual procedure is that one person reviews it, asks any questions or gives any advice, and eventually approves it. But right now there is a lot of second-guessing going on by the people who promote the hooks to the queue. It can take two or three rounds of re-evaluation before everybody is happy. You can see that happening at the Custom House nomination, and at my Fiesta del Pacifico nomination. So I suggest that you let me handle this one. OK? --MelanieN (talk) 21:08, 24 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

BTW you might want to add an infobox. It would let you get all that birth-and-death information out of the lead sentence. Here's one that could work: Template:Infobox architect. --MelanieN (talk) 01:19, 25 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've been working on a DYK. I took the liberty of expanding the article a little since it did not quite meet the length requirements. I'd like to do a DYK based on the earthquake standards, but the only source I have found that connects him to those standards or that law is that one article from the Journal of San Diego History. None of the other histories of the Field Act or Riley Act seem to mention him. I'm hesitant to use it without additional sourcing since the reviewers have gotten so picky lately. I'll keep working on it. --MelanieN (talk) 22:09, 25 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Actually never mind about this; I think I'll use a San Diego Zoo hook instead. --MelanieN (talk) 09:52, 26 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

BTW quite a few of the buildings he designed or co-designed are on the National Register of Historic Places - do you think we should work that into the article in some way? --MelanieN (talk) 22:11, 25 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nominated: Template:Did you know nominations/Louis John Gill. --MelanieN (talk) 17:29, 26 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

And approved today - after a few minor rewrites to avoid "close paraphrasing". --MelanieN (talk) 21:56, 28 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

On 29 June 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Louis John Gill, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Louis John Gill was the original architect of the San Diego Zoo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Louis John Gill. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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On 10 July 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article ‪United States Custom House (San Ysidro, California)‬, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the historic U.S. Custom House in San Ysidro, San Diego, lies 50 feet (15 m) north of one of the busiest land border crossings in the world? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/‪United States Custom House (San Ysidro, California)‬. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wow, did you see that? Almost 2500 page views! Congrats! --MelanieN (talk) 14:47, 14 July 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for replying, I still do not quite understand how Talk works or where I respond. Here or on the other page under rnieders. If the image appeared in a U.S. news paper like the Los Angeles Times and the San Diego Union-Tribune, is that fair use? I was also the project manager of the project and designed part of the cross-border terminal, 3 of the images I do own, the 3 others where given to me while I was involved in the negotiations and were also given to the media for promotion of the project, is that not fair use? Pictures are an essential part of the article, especially original pictures Rnieders (talk) 14:51, 25 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Keizers, you redirected the cross-border terminal background which I wrote to a new page, called cross-border terminal, Tijuana International Airport. I started the project in 1990 and was actually the project manager of the project for GAP in Mexico until 2001, but somehow I must have uploaded the pictures wrong as they are in the process of being deleted. You seem to understand Wikipedia well, the pictures are an integral part of the article but Stefan2 from Sweden says they all must be deleted as they are not fair use, even though they came from public entities, such as the City of San Diego and the San Diego Association of Governments and appeared in news print. Could you direct me into submitting these pictures correctly? It would be greatly appreciated Rnieders (talk) 04:04, 25 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Again, thank you for the reply, I hav read the WP:NFCC several times as well as WP:File copyright tags, images I created I assume I must upload to commons, but I cannot understand how images given to promote the project and used by the Los Angeles Times cannot be uploaded when WP:File copyright tags states "for image freely provided to promote an item, as in a promotional photo in a press packet." The images not owned by me where from promotional material and I was the project manager of the project and presented the project before the U.S. State Department. I cannot understand this Rnieders (talk) 16:18, 25 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I noticed you redirected the edit I did on the Tijuana International Airport to a new main page title Cross-Border Terminal, Tijuana International Airport, could this be changed to Tijuana Cross-border Terminal, which is what it was always called since the 1990s and in all negotiations. Also when cross-border terminal is Googled right now, it goes first to the Tijuana International Airport. I have also requested that all the files/images I uploaded incorrectly be deleted. I do not know if I can do it or the administrator has to. But I have found all the images which I created for the negotiations and which I own, those I will load to commons. Thank you for your guidance Rnieders (talk) 13:11, 26 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for all your help, I dug out my old files and found replacement images which I own so that there is no issue about copyrights. They were all in Spanish and my disks from 1990-3 tried to convert them to word 2010, no success, had to recreate everything. Images are important to understanding the article. I also forgot a few items that have to be added to both the history of the airport and article, minor and short, just a couple of sentences. I spent a lot of time with Gilberto Valenzuela who as Minister of Public Works 1964-1970, not only did Mexico Olympics but also rebuilt the Tijuana airport and changed the runway orientation from 10-28 to 09-27 due to an incident at the inauguration of the Friendship Dam in Texas, Valenzuela and my godfather Octavio Vejar Vazquez were very close friends, and that is why I had so much access to people in this process, but people pass on and a new generation comes and forgets commitments. Thank you for all your help and all the best Rnieders (talk) 20:20, 27 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As for the opening of the crossing, they are grading on the U.S. side and with performance bonds, that means they will be done within a year, I was suppose to be the project manager, helped Sam Zell's people and the Mexican investors secure the land and gave them all the information, 20 years worth of work, they hired the guy I trained and the son-in-law of one of the partners (Laura) is also now running the project. That is life Rnieders (talk) 20:27, 27 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Keizer. All the old pictures were deleted from the article and new ones were uploaded yesterday, all of which I created for promoting the Tijuana cross-border terminal, plus I corrected and added a few more things to the article's time line. Thnk you for your help. Rnieders (talk) 17:32, 3 September 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hello Keizer, there were some comments which I did not quite understand but it seems you corrected them. You know how to write articles, I do not, still confused by the protocols. Thank you for your help Rnieders (talk) 18:31, 18 September 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

On 11 September 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article New Mexico City international airport, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Mexico City's new airport was designed by Sir Norman Foster? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/New Mexico City international airport. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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On 13 September 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Edgewood Avenue, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Edgewood Avenue (pictured), Atlanta's newest and "most diverse" restaurant and entertainment street, was originally created as a route for Atlanta's first electric streetcar line? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Edgewood Avenue. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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I've been away from Wikipedia for some time and was delighted to see all the work you've done on Atlanta subjects. Most especially grateful to see my dorky neighborhoods of Atlanta map is finally gone!! Thanks --Jolomo (talk) 18:33, 3 October 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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		Thanks for your recent contributions! -Mike Restivo (talk) 20:16, 29 April 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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	You really should take credit for Standing Peachtree, which was just a redirect before you got to it. I have edited the article's assessment of the "Standing Pitch Tree" theory, based on my reading of Garrett. I hope it meets with your approval. Pleased to see all that you've done for WP coverage of my former hometown. ℜob C. alias ÀLAROB 16:53, 7 January 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Thanks for writing the article Main Street Pedestrian Mall (Riverside, California). Tito Dutta (talk) 02:58, 17 January 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Keizers, I missed the discussion regarding this move, could you provide the link? I would also like to see the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities for this new type of entity. Cheers, Fettlemap (talk) 00:21, 25 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Neither is required per se, Fettlemap, do you have an issue with the enhancement or with the idea of having an entry for an edge city? Keizers (talk) 00:29, 25 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I appreciate all the improvements you have made to numerous geographic articles. We certainly need more people willing to do that. That is not the issue here. My concern is that the article on a common place name has been written over with a term from an academic work. The guidelines are clear about using commonly recognizable names for place name articles. The title is South Coast Plaza–John Wayne Airport edge city is not a common place name per these Wikipedia standards and includes a description edge city which is not included in place name article titles but in the text (capital city, port city, unincorporated community, etc). Since you have done a lot of editing in the past couple days to write a new and different article under the new title, this might be fine for an article on an academic subject. We can split it apart. I can recreate the [March 2019 version] for the common place name South Coast Metro and have them write over the redirect. The other option is just to change the name back and the scholarly name for the area becomes a section of the South Coast Metro article. Let me know your preference in resolving this Thanks, Fettlemap (talk) 23:19, 26 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Fettlemap, gotcha. I reinstated the old "common" title and adjusted the lede accordingly. Let me know what you think. Keizers (talk) 23:28, 26 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for reverting the name change. The "edge city" article needs work and could use your energy and expertise. Cheers, Fettlemap (talk) 20:58, 30 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Keizers! This is Tfkalk. Thank you for your overhaul of the Sears, Roebuck article a few weeks ago-- it looks great! There is a retail WikiProject if you are interested in joining. We'd love to have you take part! Best, --Tfkalk (talk) 19:53, 10 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hello. Please take a look at Asher Hamburger and let me know if you have any corrections. Best wishes, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 20:15, 6 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Done. I am definitely some edits. Thanks for the heads up Keizers (talk) 22:38, 6 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hello Keizers,

I presume you understand Dutch, but to be sure I write to you in English. I noticed you were the first creator of the Wikipedia page about the Esders and Scheefhals building in St. Petersburg, Russia. Yesterday I made a few minor corrections on that page. I didn't succeed, however, in altering the main heading (the page title). There, in the name Scheefhals, there is one a too many (Scheefhaals). Maybe you yourself can delete that a.

Kind regards Merlion2009 (talk) 08:19, 29 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Merlion2009, idd ik spreek Nederlands, wat u vraagt heet een Page Move, doe ik zometeen. Dank! Keizers (talk) 15:16, 29 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi, I noticed your name as creator of a historic district article back in 2011 or so, i think within National Register of Historic Places in DeKalb County, Georgia. Glad to see you are still editing, at least in other topic areas. It happens I am editing/creating articles on NRHP-listed places in Georgia, and I'm encouraging one or a few people to take photos and upload them, and I wonder if you are continuing and/or would be interested/willing in cooperating in an editing campaign in this area? I'll watchlist here for any reply, but please ping me in any reply and/or give me notice at my Talk page, if I seem to have missed it. Cheers, --Doncram (talk) 20:18, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User:Doncram I no longer live in Georgia so couldn’t take pictures and to be honest am not highly motivated to create or edit articles about Atlanta/DeKalb/Georgia. Keizers (talk) 21:40, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Okay, sure, thank you for replying. Please do your thing, glad again u did some GA stuff in the past. :) cheers, --Doncram (talk) 04:07, 13 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good luck! I have a lot of pictures of neighborhoods in inner Atlanta, some are in DeKalb like Druid Hills, Emory area... if you ever need to ask for one of a specific place. Keizers (talk) 16:10, 13 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Thanks for the work you do on this topic!!! I especially like the Victorian Downtown page. I am related to one man who was president of the City Council in 1889-90 and worked in the City Hall, and who was president of the California Bank (2nd and Braodway) in the early 1980s, and who, as part of a syndicate, purchased the entire block bounded by 7th, Broadway, 6th, and Hill Streets. He purchased three lots, sold two (dang), and built a building on Broadway just north of 7th Street. In the early 1900's, the Lankershims and my relative leased their three lots to someone else (I forget who), and a very large building was built on the corner, one that became Bullock's original building. It's kind of neat to have some (long-ago) connections to this history! I focus (currently) on Los Angeles transportation history, and I'm (very slowly) building the Los Angeles Railway article into somehthing that represents more of its history. I must say it's great to find descriptions of the area where great-great-grandpa lived and worked. 1951bfrj (talk) 01:32, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the complement. It's been a while since I worked on it, it was an intense effort for about a year. I also did my own site victoriandtla277421332.wordpress.com but it's mostly the same content. I always browsed here and there about the pre-1920 history, but became frustrated I couldn't remember what was where, and during what time period. So I decided to create that. Block by block and decade by decade. The real clincher was when I realized that the ENTIRE downtown of 1910 or earlier, had been completely razed to the ground, mostly for the Civic Center and other government buildings, with the exception of the Plaza area, and a handful of buildings along 3rd. I felt like I had discovered a lost city! Keizers (talk) 05:47, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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I've noticed that you've made several eponymous categories, such as Category:Sears, and then you removed all the categories from the Sears page. Please don't do that. That's not very helpful as it leads to overcategorization of a category, and undercategorization of the page. As a general rule, eponymous categories should only have categories that apply to everything in the category, so categories like Companies founded in 1931, shouldn't be added to the category, and they certainly shouldn't be removed from the page. Mason (talk) 05:38, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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