June 9

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 9, 2016.

Purgatively

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 21:06, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Originally targeted laxative. Speedy declined and retargeted to Purge disambiguation. This word does not mean purge, in any possible sense of the word. While purgative does mean laxative, this means that purgatively basically means laxatively, which makes no sense at all. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 05:35, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To discuss Patar knight's proposal.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 21:39, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Intimating

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The result of the discussion was soft redirect / delete variously per Patar knight's proposal. Deryck C. 13:09, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Neelix speedies, all declined, as forms of intimate. All of these are verb forms. Intimate, as a verb, means to imply or state. Nothing at the disambiguation page has this meaning, so none of these are logical terms for any of them. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 05:30, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To discuss Patar knight's proposal.
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Template:Aït Bouaddou Villages

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The result of the discussion was Speedily deleted, uncontroversial clean-up per WP:G6. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:18, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Page was originally created as a template. It's been moved to the mainspace, and this redirect has essentially become implausible. Can't imagine anything going through this. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 21:32, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the talk page of the template redirect as well, please. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 21:33, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Some more context: User:KAIG007 made Template:Aït Bouaddou Villages containing article content, which I moved to Aït Bouaddou Villages, then to Aït Bouaddou villages, before discovering that the user also made Villages of Aït Bouaddou. So I redirected these targets to that article. I then found that the user forked Aït Bouaddou from Aït Bouadou, which, according to some of the refs on the page, look to be misspellings, and the version with 2 ds looks correct. In any case, I believe the cleanup is done, and this redirect in discussion should simply be deleted. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 21:56, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The version that I nominated for TfD is Special:Permalink/718538774 — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 07:35, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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List of games considered the best

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. In this case, we'll be creating a list of lists. Deryck C. 13:14, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Procedural re-nomination. This redirect was recently closed as Delete in Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 2#List of games considered the best, but, with the permission of the closer, I've re-opened it due to the original nomination not including certain information. I feel this redirect should be kept.

  1. "List of games considered the best" was the former and original title of the article (not mentioned in previous nom). Per #4 of WP:RFD#KEEP, "redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason". External sites who linked to this article in 2014 & before used the old name, so deleting this redirect breaks those links.
  2. This redirect sees substantial use: [1] shows ~40-80 hits a day, which is considerable!
  3. The talk page of the target article was not notified. (Also, either the RFD tag wasn't added to the redirect, or I plain missed it on my watchlist.)
  4. The redirect is harmless and useful, WP:RFD#KEEP #5. This is more a "re-litigate the previous RFD" comment, and I believe the above 2 reasons are the most important ones, but the nominator's concern about confusion is unfounded. I don't think an article ranking sports is likely to ever exist (find out which of Baseball, Cricket, & Rugby is the best!), same with many other types of games, and if such an article ever IS created ("List of board games considered the best", perhaps), then the redirect can be changed into a disambiguation page harmlessly. There are tons and tons and tons of redirects from phrases that don't quite exactly match the topic; that's okay, though! SnowFire (talk) 20:24, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Present-day proponents of subordinating horses by force

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 21:03, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely search term. "Present-day" will be inaccurate in a couple of seconds, "force" is nowhere in the target article and the use of the word "proponents" seems unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 20:22, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Current frigates

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:17, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The use of the word "current" in this case is ambiguous. Steel1943 (talk) 20:19, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Super arts

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 21:02, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The phrase is not mentioned in the target article. The only connection I could find to this phrase has to do with this apparently being the name for special moves in the Street Fighter video game series. And Super Art Fight exists, but the redirect seems to not be an official nickname for that subject. Steel1943 (talk) 19:54, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Per nominator. It averages 0 views per day, so it's doesn't seem to be a common name for anything. Argento Surfer (talk) 16:20, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Super adapter (Mega Man)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 21:01, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The term of the redirect is not mentioned at the target. Per the redirect's history, it was previously an article that was merged into the target article, but it seems that the content of the redirect is no longer present in the target article. Also, the redirect's history as an article seems to fail WP:NOTWIKIA as an encyclopedic subject. Steel1943 (talk) 19:42, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Super admin

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The result of the discussion was keep. There have been plenty of retargeting suggestions, but most participants are fine with the status quo. -- Tavix (talk) 21:00, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The use of how a "super" admin is signed is not at the target, rendering the redirect confusing and ambiguous. Steel1943 (talk) 19:39, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirects to Zork

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The result of the discussion was delete "ivory torch" and titles not separately discussed; delegate decision of the rest to admin-participant Patar knight to retarget or delete as he deems most plausible. Deryck C. 11:53, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The connection between the redirects and the target is unclear. These terms also seem to have notability as standalone concepts used in other forms of media (for example, a "jeweled scarab" may make some think of The Mummy (1999 film).) These phrases seem to not be in the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 19:29, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Note: The aforementioned comment was made when the only redirect listed in this nomination was Huge diamond.) Steel1943 (talk) 16:17, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Xezbeth: Good call. I've gone ahead and added all of those redirects to this discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 15:11, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That, and it turns out that there are more then ten more that should probably be added here. I may get to that soon. Steel1943 (talk) 15:19, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it turns out that there were only 4 more that met the same criteria as the other grouped redirects. They have been added in the same edit as this comment. Steel1943 (talk) 16:13, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The others can probably just be deleted unless they are frequently and uniquely associated with Zork, which does not seem to be the case (especially for "Crystal Trident", which seems to be better associated with [3], though that's a weak basis for a redirect). ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:46, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • These all seem like plausible options ... with the exception of the retargeting option for Ivory torch. That seems like a bit of a WP:SURPRISE since the reference seems to be about "torching ivory" to destroy it. Steel1943 (talk) 15:20, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • That was definitely the most tenuous one, and hence the question mark, and is less of a plausible redirect than all the others. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:34, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Super-Grammaticam

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 17#Super-Grammaticam

Super-

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 14:11, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as ambiguous/implausible - as it stands now, it redirs to a dab page for Super. However, the hyphen denotes a prefix form, and there's nothing on the dab that refers to the redir as such. So, if I'm going to look for "super", I don't need to type "super-", and if I'm looking for "super-", I'm not going to find it. MSJapan (talk) 17:21, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Rechargeable CMOS battery

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Nonvolatile BIOS memory#CMOS battery.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:19, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Asus Eee PC may have a Rechargeable CMOS battery, but that doesn't mean that all Rechargeable CMOS batteries are Eee PCs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ElianDoran (talkcontribs) 15:07, 9 June 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

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Small accident

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:15, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The word "small" is nowhere in the target article, leaving the term "small accident" undefined, leaving readers who arrive at the target article trying to figure out what specific set of circumstances make an accident a "small accident". Also, the word "small" is subjective and ambiguous. Steel1943 (talk) 14:54, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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List of rivers of Saudi Arabia

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 14:08, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of rivers of Palestine, a wadi is not a river and anyone too ignorance or lazy to search for wadis separately from rivers can't expect to find them Siuenti (talk) 13:59, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Big state

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 17#Big state

Big tit

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The result of the discussion was delete. The slang association, and the resulting lack of a widely agreed topic fit, point towards deletion as the most plausible outcome. Deryck C. 11:44, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The words "big" and "tit" are both ambiguous. Also, Tit, a disambiguation page, is an inappropriate target since no subjects in that page are not referred to specifically as "big tit". Steel1943 (talk) 05:06, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • The way I'm reading this comment's rationale, this seems more like a reason to delete these redirects so that Wikipedia's search function can help readers determine what subject they are looking for without being forced to go to a specific page due to an existing redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:10, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tit is a disambiguation page. Redirecting a term which does not describe a valid alternative name for all of the subjects on the page, is not an exact title match with the disambiguation page's title and/or isn't a title with capitalization, punctuation and/or differences with the use of the word "the" is misleading and inaccurate. I'm pretty sure that none of the subjects at Tit#People are referred to as "big tit" or "big tits". Also, the argument trying to compare Wiener having a similar situation regarding "big" redirects is not true since the only incoming redirects to Wiener are Wieners and Wiener (disambiguation); Big wiener, Big wieners, Big-wiener and Big-wieners do not exist. Steel1943 (talk) 13:45, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Indeed they don't. But if they did, "big wieners" etc. should all redirect to the "wiener" disambig page, as we don't know which kind of wiener might be intended. The analogy with "tit" here is perfect. -- The Anome (talk) 12:46, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • The statement that the phrase "big tit" may only refer to breast may not be the case. Thinking I had heard the word "tit" used otherwise in the past, I recalled that I once heard the word "tit" used as an insult. Sure enough, wikt:tit and third party sources confirm this. Apparently, the word "tit" is sometimes used as an insult in British English. Like most insults that are a single-word noun, the word "big" can be placed behind it. Steel1943 (talk) 19:25, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's a very good point, but I don't think that usage is present on the disambiguation page. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 21:52, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    These pages might have future retargets by other editors. This RfD might sync them for now, but I have a feeling it won't last. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 07:17, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Big ldea

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The result of the discussion was speedy deletion -- as absolute nonsense. -- The Anome (talk) 08:15, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely misspelling. The first letter in the second word of the redirect is a lowercase "L". Steel1943 (talk) 04:57, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Big killer

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The result of the discussion was delete both.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:15, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

These redirects' target, List of causes of death by rate, is about death in humans. "Killers" or a target of a "kill" is not exclusive to humans, and the word "big" is ambiguous. Steel1943 (talk) 04:42, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Jeopardisers

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 21#Jeopardisers

Bootable USB

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The result of the discussion was retarget to boot disk.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:09, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A bootable USB is not necessarily a live USB. A live USB contains a full OS, rather than, for example, the Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10 setup files to install the OS from the USB. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 03:04, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Windows 10 (for PCs and tablets)

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:15, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We don't begin parenthetical disambiguators with prepositions, in contrast with Windows 10 for PCs and tablets, which has a natural disambiguator; and Windows 10 (PCs and tablets), which has a parenthetical disambiguator that doesn't begin with a preposition. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 02:02, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Game of Thrones (season 8)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 16:54, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am taking this to RfD since another editor has twice attempted, incorrectly, to speedy delete this redirect. I will inform that editor of this RfD. At the moment, I am neutral with respect to deletion. Safiel (talk) 01:46, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keyword: possible. It has not been confirmed and hence the page should not exist. Those are all speculation sources. Alex|The|Whovian? 07:01, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CRYSTAL clearly says that it only applies to "unverifiable speculation", that "It is appropriate to report discussion and arguments about the prospects for success of future proposals and projects or whether some development will occur, if discussion is properly referenced," and that "Predictions, speculation, forecasts and theories stated by reliable, expert sources or recognized entities in a field may be included." The fact that there has been open speculation by the people in charge of the show about needing an eighth season is verifiable to reliable sources. Unless you're asserting that the creators/showrunners of Game of Thrones and the president of HBO programming are not "reliable, expert sources or recognized entities in [the] field" for noted HBO show Game of Thrones, I fail to see how this should be deleted per WP:CRYSTAL. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:48, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"We need a season 8" doesn't sound like "We're going to produce season 8" just like CEOs of sports teams wanting to re-sign their players going into free agency. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:56, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In that scenario though, if the coach and the GM both openly say in reliable sources that they're in discussions with the player and that the current plan was to sign them, then it would be fine to include that per WP:CRYSTAL, since it is verifiable speculation about the future. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:03, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Right, but that does not mean to put the player on the roster. But that redirect may have to do for now to funnel traffic as with Star Wars 9 which has been in discussion since the 1980s with things making it more a certainty from 2015. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:47, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
And now back on topic. Game of Thrones does not related to sports or Star Wars. Alex|The|Whovian? 12:12, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Miss Emma

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 17#Miss Emma

Jimmyjohns

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 17#Jimmyjohns

Donald Trump Caused Riots

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, WP:G5, by Bbb23 (talk · contribs). -- Tavix (talk) 01:45, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Self-explanatory deletion; likely created by Beercan999 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) in evasion of their long sock history as Hypocritepedia (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Nate (chatter) 21:53, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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