April 20

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 20, 2021.

British King who abdicated

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 00:01, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete since Edward II and Richard II both abdicated too, and they are all from England that can be called "Britain" casually. No comment on the Kings' reign, NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:31, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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. LORD PALMERSTON

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 02:33, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for being too improbable and under-utilised. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:28, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Tecumseh Sherman

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 20:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this improbable portion of a name - for example, searching for Tecumseh Sherman but excluding "William Tecumseh Sherman" will mostly yield results for "Wm. Tecumseh Sherman" - i.e. there are little evidence that Tecumseh Sherman is used without a form of William in front of it. Moreover, there is William Tecumseh Sherman Fitch III, his descendant. Also see my essay, NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:24, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Henry Bannerman

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Vaticidalprophet 15:09, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or made disambig, due to WP:FRIED and a partial title match for Henry Morrison (cricketer) (full name: "Henry Bannerman Morrison"). PM Campbell-Bannerman is born "Henry Campbell", so that would be acceptable, but "Henry Bannerman" alone would confuse the user into thinking that he was born that, or once simply go by that. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:03, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Henry Asquith

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 20:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per my essay, WP:FRIED, and the fact that "Henry Asquith" could also refer to Michael Henry Asquith, H. H.'s grandson. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 22:57, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Incompetent valves

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Valvular heart disease. -- Tavix (talk) 22:30, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe that this specific term is mentioned at the target.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  08:04, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Business Information Systems

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MOS:Naming convention

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. -- Tavix (talk) 01:32, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I was looking for Wikipedia:Naming conventions when I entered this; not sure the current target's topic can be called "naming conventions". 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:03, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So... we changed our WP:Naming conventions guideline (which mostly talked about how to “name” an article) to WP:Article titles (which was soon promoted to Policy status).
However, there were a few parts of the old WP:Naming conventions guideline that dealt with how to present the subject’s name beyond an article title, (such as whether to present nicknames in quotes or parentheses). These were primarily STYLE issues, so we hived these bits off, and created a separate MOS:Naming convention guideline to deal with these issues.
Hope this history helps clarify why the various policies and guidelines are (currently) entitled as they are, why the various redirects exist, and why they (currently) point where they do.
I spell it out not to support or object to any new proposals, but merely to inform the discussion. Blueboar (talk) 21:59, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Blueboar This makes sense to me, though I am still not sure if the target is really about "naming". I guess the hatnote which is already present at the target does help, and my search using "MOS:" instead of "WP:", which was my motivation for this nomination, was a bit unfortunate. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:10, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops, apologies for being oblivious. I guess that means I'm fine with keeping this as-is. - Eureka Lott 16:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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UNC-R

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Chees

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Really more of a no consensus outcome, with deletion and disambiguation as front runners. Given "keep" arguments were a minority of 1 in a discussion that saw quite a bit of participation, and the inherent middle ground nature of disambiguation, I am closing as disambiguate as the best compromise between the proposed courses of action. signed, Rosguill talk 18:44, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recognising that April Fools is now over and that this is a proper RfD, this redirect should be deleted. It's tagged as a misspelling but it could refer to cheese, chess, cheers, etc. An alternative could be to retarget to Cheez but I prefer deletion. Anarchyte (talkwork) 05:05, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Glizzy

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The result of the discussion was no consensus so it will be kept as is by default. However, I will add 61.239.39.90's hatnote suggestion to (hopefully) cover as many bases as possible. -- Tavix (talk) 22:01, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to hot dog. Glizzy is a regional dialectical synonym of hot dog, and people searching for it would not be expecting the rapper. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:48, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

it’s not currently mentioned at all at the proposed target so is there any evidence that people typing Glizzy would be more likely looking up hot dogs?--67.70.101.238 (talk) 19:49, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I also noticed that at one point Glizzy was a dab page where it was also said to be a term for a Glock and that article doesn’t mention the term either. Basically, we need more evidence.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 19:54, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The answer to that is simply. Yes. The terms are related and it's slang that originates in the Washington DC and Maryland area. A simple search brings up multiple references to the term on articles, and even youtube videos from area residents. Interestingly enough, it the term is also referenced on the Wiktionary glizzy as a hot dog reference, as well as a reference to the rapper, AND the gun. The term may in fact originate from said rapper or involve him in some way. 216.9.28.77 (talk) 16:58, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is clearly on odd situation, in that we have three different meanings, but only one of them is actually mentioned in an article. Redirecting it to an article that does not use the term is not a good solution. Perhaps using WP:HATNOTEs on the article on the person is the correct answer? Something like maybe? Beeblebrox (talk) 22:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The hatnote solution might look a little messy. Why not restore the DAB? BlackholeWA (talk) 14:21, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't use a hatnote to direct a reader to an article where the term isn't mentioned. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:28, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
We do that all the time with informal nicknames like this. It's certainly preferable to a redirect that does the same. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:27, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Do we? Where? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:19, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Wet tar

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 15:26, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Would these be better targeting Asphalt or Tar? although this is used as a road sign after Asphalt concrete has been laid it's referring to the asphalt component of the mix. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:31, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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List of films set in ancient Greece

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Fiction set in ancient Greece#Films without prejudice against overwriting the redirect with a stand-alone list. -- Tavix (talk) 21:34, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander the Great ≠ Ancient Greece. Off the top of my head, Jason and the Argonauts (1963 film), Hercules (1997 film), and 300 (film) are all set in Ancient Greece and have nothing to do with Alexander. A list article could probably be created at this title, but until then this redirect should be deleted. signed, Rosguill talk 17:46, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Melissa Cross

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North American winter

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of major snow and ice events in the United States#Seasonal summaries. plicit 02:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing particularly relevant to North American winters in particular at the target, delete to encourage article creation. I considered retargeting to Climate of North America, but that's just a redirect to a section of North America that does not discuss winters in much detail. signed, Rosguill talk 17:34, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I created that redirect since we have seasonal "North American winter" articles (2020-21 North American winter, etc.) but with no article titled North American winter. I created it so that if "North American winter" is typed, it actually leads to something rather than being taken to a nonexistent article. 🌀HurricaneCovid🌀 (contribs) 17:39, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think that leaving a red link to encourage article creation is a better solution; I don't think anybody clicking through "North American winter" on those pages is likely to be satisfied by the content at Winter. signed, Rosguill talk 18:29, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
An article titled List of major snow and ice events in the United States does exist. I suppose it could redirect to that instead. 🌀HurricaneCovid🌀 (contribs) 16:57, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The Magic Diner

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Саrоlуn Тrеnсh-Ѕаndіfоrd

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 02:41, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a mixed script redirect - the first letter is not a letter "C" but is instead a cryllic Es. Seems to have been created as a typo, the article was only at this title for a couple of days before being moved to the correct title. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 14:46, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominating Cаrоlуn Тrеnсh-Ѕаndіfоrd here for the same reason, it contains a Dze instead of an s. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 14:51, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, for if they ever mistype the Cyrillic C, the search engine will still use "Trench-Sandiford" to redirect reader to the Carolyn article. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 16:27, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Bitter (song)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Bitter#Music. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 19:32, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed rename to "Bitter (Remy Zero song)" as there are multiple songs called "Bitter". dylx (talk) (contribs) 14:34, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Sai Srujan Pelluri

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:13, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The subject is a minor actor who made no significant contributions to Telugu cinema, and there is no mention of it in the article. No reason to keep the redirect. Ab207 (talk) 13:26, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Image upload

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:13, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No inherent relation to Wikipedia. Even our articles, such as Upload components#Image upload, refer to this as a general term. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:01, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Example Article Name

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:15, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure why anyone would be searching for this, but if they are, this will almost certainly come as a WP:SURPRISE. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:56, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Community health initiative/Per user page, namespace, category, and upload blocking

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:14, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible WP:XNR; probably an accidental creation. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:53, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Clean Start

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:51, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Little to none of the web search results seem to relate to Wikipedia. Implausible WP:XNR. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:49, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Attack page

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The result of the discussion was speedily deleted by Fastily per WP:G7. (non-admin closure) NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 16:32, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A quick web search reveals a lot of unrelated meanings, such as a so-called "Google Attack Page" and general malicious websites. No reason for this WP:XNR to exist. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:40, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. A google search shows this being used in a number of different contexts, e.g. to refer to Cyberbullying or Computer virus infected webpages. Not Wikipedia specific jargon so I don't think it's a good idea to be sending searchers into Wikipedia space. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:12, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Chupa peak

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:19, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No relevant Google hits + chupar is Spanish for to suck. Whatever the original joke may have been, this is clearly useless. AngryHarpytalk 10:51, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The world's littlest scyscraper

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:19, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible search term. Misspelling "skyscraper" as "scyscraper" seems to be uncommon. Aasim (talk) 06:41, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I think that the target page should be moved to "Newby-McMahon Building". The redirect itself, though, can be gone. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 16:21, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Bharat (place)

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TWD

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:43, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The primary topic is currently New Taiwan dollar and there should no longer be a primary topic. The TV show "The Walking Dead" now commonly abbreviates itself as "TWD" in marketing and on promo art and these pages The Walking Dead (franchise), The Walking Dead (comics), and The Walking Dead (TV series) collectively receive many more views. There are already redirects for TWD episodes, TWD (season 1), etc. UserTwoSix (talk) 01:47, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Do nothing per WP:CRUFT that dictates that WP should not lend undue voice to content that might only interest a few. Unfortunately, just because The Walking Dead goes by TWD, doesn't mean that we have to redirect the abbreviation there. Also see the good reasoning by User:wbm1058 below. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 16:25, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Page history –has been a primary-redirect to New Taiwan dollar for nearly 15 years, vs. a disambiguation for less than 3 years:
3-letter currency codes for major currencies are common primary-redirects: AUD, CNY, GBP, JPY, NZD, USD – but not always: CAD, KRW
Only 7 pages link to TWD, which is not a big deal, but it's a matter of convenience for editors:
Example: Taipei Dome infobox: cost = $37 billion TWD
New Taiwan dollar has the most long-term significance, which is one of the two major WP:PTOPIC criteria (the other being usage, i.e. page views)
The Walking Dead is itself an ambiguous term.
I searched The Walking Dead (franchise) for "TWD" and came up empty. The logo doesn't use this acronym. The Walking Dead (comic book) only uses "TWD" as a code in the tables of collected editions. The Walking Dead (TV series) just uses "TWD" twice, deep into the article. – wbm1058 (talk) 15:15, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Pseudoscience in Pakistan

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:20, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Non-neutral redirect. Pseudoscience is not discussed at the target, and frustrates users looking for, say, Pervez Hoodbhoy. This is the only redirect beginning with Pseudoscience in. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 01:02, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Without regards to its content, I say delete, failing which re-target to Pervez Hoodbhoy. Per nom and the fact that P in P is a work of Hoodbhoy's. Deletion is still my first choice, NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 02:00, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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