November 13

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 13, 2023.

JVC GZ-HD7

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 01:51, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned anywhere in the target. Someone suggested in the previous nomination that this redirect should be set to the company's page (instead of deleting it outright) because there are "some coverage of the product in Google News archives from 2007, but it doesn't appear to be substantial or from WP:RS", and apparently it was accepted as the result. NotCory (talk) 11:19, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 13:06, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or retarget?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Edward-Woodrow (talk) 23:15, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist — no consensus yet.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Taichi

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was move Taichi (name) over the redirect. I find clear consensus for this, and will add appropriate hatnotes. --BDD (talk) 15:45, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Right now, "Taichi" is a redirect to tai chi. However, "Taichi", it is a very common Japanese name (see Taichi (name)). We should prioritize a correct spelling over a common misspelling. Instead of a redirect, "Taichi" should be the disambiguation page now found at "Taichi (name)", with a hatnote explaining where to find the page on tai chi. SilverStar54 (talk) 02:59, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Move Taichi (name) to base name or disambiguate?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:48, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move to base name. To help anyone not looking for the name get to the right place, I suggest we have the hatnote say:
This article is about the Japanese name "Taichi". For for the martial art, see tai chi. For other uses of "tai chi", see taiji. SilverStar54 (talk) 06:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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No-one knows what it's like

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 21#No-one knows what it's like

Interstate 63

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 20#Interstate 63

Sol Pendavis Williams

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 20#Sol Pendavis Williams

You didn't have to stoop so low

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The result of the discussion was delete. Fuzheado | Talk 16:03, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This lyric appears part-way in the chorus of the song, and it might not be a likely search term. Another lyric from the chorus, 'But you didn't have to cut me off' was deleted in 2022. Xeroctic (talk) 18:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Midfielder(association football)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Fuzheado | Talk 16:03, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the lack of space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct disambiguator, Midfielder (association football), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 18:41, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Silkmoth redirects

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 2#Silkmoth redirects

Rademacher function

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Rademacher system. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:28, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rademacher system should be the more precise target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:17, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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285 (Number)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 21#285 (Number)

287 (Number)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 21#287 (Number)

Deathberry

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 16:42, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This redirect is a MOS:FICTIONAL common name for Yew from the books/game Warrior Cats. There does not seem to be a good alternative target as the other common uses of "deathberry" also relate to fiction. No results on Wikipedia library search. Edit to add: A search of books on archive.org returns results for "Deathberry" from the previously mentioned Warrior Cats series by Erin Hunter and a character from the Bleach (manga). There are no uses in any books of botany, popular or scientific, only 60 results in total, all in fiction or documents about the books. This is a purely in-universe common name for European Yew. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 16:04, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is a perfectly valid alternative name for the plant and "deathberry" is a real English word that refers to yew. Sunstar VIII (talk) 18:52, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sunstar VIII Do you have a source for that fact that is not from the book series or related media? 🌿MtBotany (talk) 20:10, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, but the etymology of a word doesn't matter. Sunstar VIII (talk) 21:07, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Sunstar VIII: We aren't fandom.warriorcats.com; it is a reasonable request to see references supporting your bold claim that it is a "real English word that refers to yew". Edward-Woodrow (talk) 21:14, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If the common name had crossed over to actual common usage outside fanfic and roleplay, then it should be mentioned. There are many obscure common names mentioned in plant articles like at Pedicularis groenlandica#Names. I don't know how often anyone uses "elephant-head lousewort" from my example, but I found it in a source about the species. If at some point a book or source about plants (Wikipedia:Reliable sources) says that "deathberry" is a common name that's good to go in. Names do crossover from popular culture to common usage, but not yet in this case. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 21:28, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We could create an anchor at List of Bleach volumes, where The Deathberry Returns (lol) is mentioned. It strikes me as a bit silly, though, and I think I'd prefer deletion. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:14, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@TechnoSquirrel69 I did think about suggesting that as an alternative, but it struck me as not being useful for Bleach fans. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 21:19, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Evolution river nile sudan

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 14:27, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. String of random words individually related to the target. The lack of coherency is not helpful to the user. Appears to originally be a 2007 article that should have been deleted. TNstingray (talk) 13:38, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Closed Lines

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Jay 💬 16:46, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Too vague to be pointing to a list from one specific city and I can't see a broad topic / dab page that would be a better target so I am proposing deletion. Jenks24 (talk) 09:47, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:DISCOGS

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Discogs. Complex/Rational 13:08, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What do editors think of a retarget to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Discogs? The WikiProject doesn't seem to be super active, if its talk page is to be believed, and it would be useful to have a more concise WP: shortcut. Speaking from experience, I've seen multiple instances of AfC reviewers accidentally using the wrong shortcut when someone inevitably submits a poorly-sourced album draft. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 09:43, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:
1. Yeah, the WikiProject isn't usually all that active. I've had it on my watchlist for a while now and it comes up occasionally, but most questions are better redirected to WikiProject Albums since that gets way more eyes anyway.
2. There is WP:RSDISCOGS already which does the same job being proposed here. Having both wouldn't be a bad idea, but it has already been covered.
3. I also acknowledge that I have made the same mistake of going to DISCOGS when I wanted RSDISCOGS in the past.
Whether it should change or not, I dunno. Just wanted to share some extra perspective. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:44, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clarification on the WP:RSDISCOGS shortcut — that's what I meant when I said "a more concise WP: shortcut", but forgot to elaborate on which shortcut I was referring to. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:09, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Current head of state of Netherlands

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 20#Current head of state of Netherlands

Strangers (upcoming film)

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 04:03, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:UFILM. Target subject released 3 months ago, and redirect has virtually no page views and no links in mainspace. Steel1943 (talk) 00:16, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:23, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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System Shock (upcoming video game)

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 04:03, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete in the spirit of WP:UFILM. Target subject released over half a year ago, and redirect has no incoming links from the mainspace and has virtually no page views. Steel1943 (talk) 00:13, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. @Steel1943: Should we apply the same logic to redirects like "System Shock (2022 video game)"? The article was moved around a lot when estimated release dates changed, and they are now equally misleading. We have such redirects for 2017, 2018, 2020, 2021, and 2022. IceWelder [] 00:43, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@IceWelder: That would be a different argument since System Shock (2022 video game) is potentially failed WP:CRYSTAL rather than being a redirect that was proven to be accurate at one point and then changed later. (I mean that System Shock (2022 video game) was never accurate since the subject was never released in 2022, but the target subject was always "upcoming" until it was released.) Steel1943 (talk) 01:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The year redirects should definitely not be bundled with this one. The general consensus regarding such redirects for films is that they are usually kept if there was significant publicity around a particular date or other reason why someone is likely to look for it under that date because there is a high likelihood of contemporary sources referring to it as such; where there is no or low likelihood of that happening the redirects are usually deleted. I have not investigated which applies in this case. Thryduulf (talk) 01:39, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) I agree with this, considering ... there have been discussions in the past regarding "did not release this year disambiguator" redirects; in such cases, some of the discussions have resulted in "keep" due to there being enough references to viably believe readers would be searching for the subject attached to certain erroneous years. Steel1943 (talk) 01:43, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Lust (upcoming film)

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The result of the discussion was Restore and send to AfD.. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:25, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like a subject which may never be able to establish notability. Either way, the redirect is a ((R with history)) and targets what was apparently the only linked biographical subject in the edit history ... a sound designer. (I would have expected it to be an actor, director, or producer ... this option seems rather farfetched.) Steel1943 (talk) 00:15, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Volufiline

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 20#Volufiline

When the president does it, its not illegal

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 20#When the president does it, its not illegal

Aata Houn Jau Dya

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 20#Aata Houn Jau Dya

Universal steering wheel control interface

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 04:02, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect leads to a random company, with questionable notability. Little value in itself. ZimZalaBim talk 02:45, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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MIST (economic term)

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 04:02, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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