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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 20, 2023.

Wikipedia:Huff policy

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Consensus to delete, no incoming links Fuzheado | Talk 14:37, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Even more absurd than the previous discussion on WP:HUFF, this should be deleted since we certainly have no policy that could be described or referred to as "the Huff policy". Also zero incoming links whatsoever, despite the fact that it was created in 2008.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  23:49, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:HUFF

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#HuffPost. (non-admin closure) feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 06:10, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect doesn't make sense to me. Only link to this redirect is from an AN/I comment that sarcastically asserts that Wikipedia should create a 'Hurt and Upset Feelings Festival' noticeboard. IDK what should be done with this redirect, but certainly the status quo cannot continue.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  23:43, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Vanniar(Sri Lanka)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 23:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Vanniar (Sri Lanka), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:14, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Maidan(Kolkata)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 23:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Maidan (Kolkata), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:13, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Humanity(album)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 23:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Humanity (album), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:11, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Love Bites(Judas Priest song)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 23:30, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Love Bites (Judas Priest song), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:09, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Persia (Iran)

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Photographs(song)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 23:31, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Photographs (song), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:00, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Gatsby(Sandwich)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 23:33, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Gatsby (Sandwich), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 22:57, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Yellow Top

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East Croydon

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:30, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't make sense to put a redirect of a whole place to a train station. It would probably be more appropriate to redirect to Croydon. — MATRIX! (a good person!)[citation unneeded] 18:53, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I don't know if you're a local, but I don't believe this term is generally used to describe the wider area - the only mentions of an "East Croydon" in the Croydon article are references to the train station. (By way of contrast, "South Croydon" is described in the Croydon article as being an area of the town, and it has a full article.) Belbury (talk) 19:10, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Belbury: Yes, I am a local (from Selsdon). I have never heard anyone call the station "East Croydon". Furthermore, I have heard many people say they live in East Croydon. It's weird to redirect a place name to a railway station. — MATRIX! (a good person!)[citation unneeded] 18:38, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like you are arguing that East Croydon do refer primarily to East Croydon station, but still the redirect to East Croydon station needs to be deleted, which is somewhat illogical. Hzh (talk) 15:56, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think the user is trying to say that it isn't really used as a neighbourhood name (which I somewhat disagree with), but no one would use the redirect. — MATRIX! (a good person!)[citation unneeded] 18:43, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If a term exists (many transport websites do use just "East Croydon" - [1][2], [3]), then the redirect will be used. A check of page usage do show that it is used even if not frequently. Hzh (talk)
Stations are ambiguous without the work "station" or similar, as can be seen on the names of the station and some other Wikipedia languages have station at "X" or "X (railway station)" or similar. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:16, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As someone who doesn't live in Croydon but knows people who lived there their entire lives (some over 7 decades), I have heard them referring to East Croydon as a general area, e.g. "the bank in East Croydon". Hzh (talk) 00:56, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There's no bank in 'East Croydon', it's George Street and there's only the Coop left after Lloyd's closed a while back. I've heard locals refer to the area starting from the east of the 50p tower as Addiscombe but never 'East Croydon'. Lamberhurst (talk) 09:21, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
People who lived in Croydon their entire lives would have known a period when there was a bank in East Croydon. Lloyds' closure is quite a recent event from their perspective. They often refer to George Street as the part near to Whitgift Centre, simply because if they want to give you direction to a place, they would refer to the station if it's a place nearer to the station. I was talking to someone and he said George Street is both Central Croydon and East Croydon. The same applies to West Croydon, it may be mentioned as a general area, in fact they often refer to West Croydon as the bus station rather than the train station since locals may use the bus station more than the train station. Hzh (talk) 12:12, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So in other words, locals use "East Croydon" primarily to mean things covered by our East Croydon station article and sometimes to give directions to things in Croydon that are near the things covered in that article. This all speaks to the station article being the primary topic. Thryduulf (talk) 13:17, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: I'd love to see some discussion of the usage of the term in reliable sources. A lot of the discussion so far has been on anecdotes.
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Yomi(YuYu Hakusho)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 23:33, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Yomi (YuYu Hakusho), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 22:34, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Warcraft(film)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 23:33, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Warcraft (film), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 22:31, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:R from native name

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. After two relists, there remains no consensus to make any changes. signed, Rosguill talk 21:25, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose retargeting to ((R from alternative language)). The use of these aliases imply that the redirect is not just from another name, it is from a name in the native/local language, to the more common name, most often in English. Place Clichy (talk) 16:48, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Place Clichy: your example is both an alternative name and in a language alternative to English; therefore, both rcat templates should be applied. Editors have been using the redirect rcat templates apparently in anticipation that a new rcat template, perhaps ((R from native name)) with its category, Redirects from native names, would be created. If we decide not to create those, then I think these rcat template redirects should remain as they are – they should stay targeted to the more general ((R from alternative name)). For me, the bottom line is that native names are not necessarily in a different language. Native names do not have to be in a language that is different from English, such as "The Big Smoke" for London, or "Gotham" for New York City. So native names are always alt names or nicknames, but not always in a different language. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 02:17, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Autonomous regions with special statute(Italy)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 23:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Autonomous regions with special statute (Italy), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 22:30, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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List of least polluted (and most polluted) cities by particulate matter concentration

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:23, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as List of most-polluted cities by particulate matter concentration exists too, and this is an unlikely search term to turn into a disambiguation page. GnocchiFan (talk) 12:21, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Scour(band)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 23:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Scour (band), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 22:27, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Zakariya(New Testament figure)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 23:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Zakariya (New Testament figure), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 22:24, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Interstate 63

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Sol Pendavis Williams

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Scrubs(series)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 23:35, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Scrubs (series), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 22:20, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Neetika

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Rick’s Place

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The result of the discussion was keep. ((R to article without mention)) (non-admin closure) feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 06:14, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target; unhelpful. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 21:16, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Pollack, Michael (28 November 2013). "Who was Rick of Rick's Place in Prospect Park". New York Times.
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Green Gully Reserve

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Keilor Downs, Victoria. No further discussion is needed. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 21:54, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal that the redirect be retargeted to Keilor Downs, Victoria, as the reserve has other uses. Alpha3031 (t • c) 07:52, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b https://anglopac.com.au/environmental/articles.php?story=26
  2. ^ https://www.alltrails.com/trail/australia/victoria/green-gully-walk
  3. ^ https://www.melbourneplaygrounds.com.au/green-gully-reserve-dog-off-leash-area-keilor-downs
  4. ^ "green gully reserve, keilor downs". mammaknowsnorth.com.au. Retrieved 29 September 2023.

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Relisting comment: Keep or retarget?
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Relisting comment: No comments since the last relist.
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Relisting comment: Final relist — no consensus yet.
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💁‍♀️

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (sigh) (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:26, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

unclear, delete per WP:REMOJI MicrobiologyMarcus (petri dish•cultures) 13:20, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MicrobiologyMarcus, @Yoblyblob would both of you be ok if I bundled these two discussion and also nominated and bundled 💁 as it's the same emoji as this and the one below and also targets Presentation? TartarTorte 17:08, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that would help save space @MicrobiologyMarcus Yoblyblob (talk) 17:26, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good with me, probably goes without saying but I am in favour of delete the third emoji as well. MicrobiologyMarcus (petri dish•cultures) 17:34, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Probably a good idea to also bundle 💁, which was previously deleted in 2017 at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2017_September_10#💁. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:51, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Help desk per Thryduulf or to the relevant emoji page. Gonnym (talk) 00:05, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Come on. It's a person with one hand raised. How does this unambiguously refer to "Help desk" or any other target? It does not. Emoji redirects are fundamentally extremely vague, as their interpretation is wholly subjective and all these attempts to save them from deletion will only result in another discussion like this two years down the road, because someone decided that this discussion's Retarget Of The Day isn't helpful. When it comes to emojis, a good redirect is a nonexistant redirect. And would make them the only emojis without redirects on Wikipedia has nothing to do with it; that is not a problem, as we have gone over far too many times before.
Another point is the sheer unlikeliness of someone using an emoji to search in an encyclopedia search engine. What are they looking for? I don't know, but it probably isn't "presentation" or "help desk".
We come back over and over again to the 'horrible vagueness of these emojis. These redirects are worthless, but they are worse than worthless, because there is no good target for an array of pixels, the display of which varies across devices, and the interpretation of which varies across individuals. I cannot fathom how such redirects are possible good for the project.
Utopes, an RfC on this topic has been proposed not long previously, by A smart kitten. I think it is a good idea, as it will attract attention outside of the RfD crowd. Edward-Woodrow • talk 12:29, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Unless, of course, we have some kind of "emoji disambiguation pages", something I decline to comment on. Edward-Woodrow • talk 12:33, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Edward-Woodrow: All of these same arguments could be made regarding every Unicode character redirect on Wikipedia, but I don't think that those should be deleted either. Emojis all have definitions that are set when they are created. Having "information desk person" link to Help desk does not seem at all vague or confusing to me. Enix150 (talk) 21:41, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Retarget to Help desk, delete, or keep?
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Relisting comment: Final relist — let's give these emoji redirects one more shot.
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🫗

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (sigh) (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:26, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another emoji; the definition of this emoji is "pouring liquid", of which there are multiple means of doing so, including Decantation. In other similar emoji discussions where I felt there existed appropriate titles for targets, I cannot say the same here, and I believe that retargeting to Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A is the best option per past discussions' consensus. (Although, perhaps a target of Decantation or Libation is clear enough in this instance.) Utopes (talk / cont) 05:20, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: This discussion should probably be temporarily suspended since this RfC was opened on the topic. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:29, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This can probably be relisted again, or closed as no consensus... Edward-Woodrow (talk) 23:27, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep or redirect. This, like other emojis, are valid search symbols. Gonnym (talk) 09:02, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Final relist — let's give these emoji redirects one more shot.
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Transnistrian Ukrainian dialect

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The result of the discussion was delete. This is without prejudice to the creation of a redirect to Transnistria–Ukraine relations, which was proposed but not substantially discussed. signed, Rosguill talk 20:08, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Google Translate confuses the Ukrainian terms Наддністрянщина/Подністров'я (Naddnistrianshchyna/Podnistrovia) and Придністров'я (Prydnistrovya, more commonly Transnistria in English). Both regions have similar names because they run along the Dniester river (it's included in the name of both regions if you take a look). This article is about the dialect in Naddnistrianshchyna, which is not spoken in Transnistria as you can see on this map in the dialect's Ukrainian Wikipedia page: [6]. By the way, visiting the page you can see it yourself how Google automatically translates Наддністрянський (Naddnistryanskyy) as "Transnistrian", when this would be Придністровський (Prydnistrovskyy); as proof of the latter see these articles by Ukrinform (state media) which unequivocally refer to Transnistria and use Prydnistrovskyy [7]. With all this I think it has been shown this redirect is not appropriate. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 19:00, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've also nominated Transnistrian Ukrainian, it already had its own RfD discussion before [8], but conditions have changed and another nomination is due. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 19:06, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Transnistria is not mentioned in the article. There is no Transnistrian dialect of its own in Ukrainian. This name is WP:Original research. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 19:17, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Zero results for "Transnistrian Ukrainian dialect" in Google Scholar [9] and Google Books [10]. As for "Transnistrian Ukrainian", papers virtually universally refer to either Transnistria–Ukraine relations or Transnistria–Ukraine border [11] [12]. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 19:23, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Naddnistrianshchyna/Podnistrovia is the land over the Dniester, or the upper Dniester region. Transnistria is across the Dniester, from the Moldovan and Romanian POV (in Ukraine, Transnistria is part of the Prydnistrovia, the region by the Dniester). These regions are distinct and don’t overlap. I don’t know of the existence of a Transnistrian Ukrainian dialect, and that region of Moldova is adjacent to the Podillia dialect/Podillian dialect. The vague “Transnistrian Ukrainian” sounds more like a synonym for Ukrainians in Transnistria than anything. Second choice, redirect to Ukrainian dialects, but I don’t know if we should do this for apparently made-up names.  —Michael Z. 19:40, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Transnistrian Ukrainian" would rather mean the opposite, "Transnistrians in Ukraine", just like Ukrainian Americans is about "Americans who are of Ukrainian ancestry", which is something that will never get an article. I hadn't realised this in the last RfD but this is another argument favoring deletion. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 20:20, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Sahih al-Bayhaqi

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep per WP:CSK #4. Any editor in good standing may renominate the redirect. ✗plicit 14:37, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as the article Sunan al-Kubra (al-Bayhaqi) was disruptively moved to "Sahih al-Bayhaqi" by blocked sockpuppet Mohhsiinn. I haven't found the term "Sahih al-Bayhaqi" used in a single WP:RS; most use Sunan al-Kubra or Sunan al-Bayhaqi. The user may have intended to make al-Bayhaqi a sahih hadith book. Hezbollaist (talk (Contribs) 10:52, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Black witch

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SP-3000

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Aata Houn Jau Dya

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of programmes broadcast by Star Pravah. Jay 💬 08:07, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

not mentioned at target -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:21, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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When the president does it, its not illegal

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Editors are evenly divided on whether to keep or delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:05, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as unlikely search terms. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 03:28, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Volufiline

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 07:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This name is not listed on the target page. Based on a Google search, "Volufiline™ is sarsasapogenin extracted from the roots of Asian botanical Anemarrhena asphodeloides, in an oil-soluble excipient" UL Solutions. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 13:55, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, it should probably be re-targeted to sarsasapogenin. I added the redirect while researching it, and found volufiline referred to as being the same as Zhi mu, which redirects to Anemarrhena. UltraMagnusspeak 14:04, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@UltraMagnus: Isn't sarsasapogenin a more generic target than the current one? sarsasapogenin is related to several plants, whereas Volufiline is related to Anemarrhena only? Jay 💬 14:07, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Current head of state of Netherlands

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of current heads of state and government#N. While the !votes were quite split between deleting and retargeting by sheer number, I will note that the two main arguments presented by those proposing to delete — that no similar redirects exist, and that the target was liable to become outdated — were sufficiently rebutted. (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:21, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - No similar redirects exist. estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:00, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Australia Jr, Fake Australia, Fake America

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 07:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Original research. No any indication that those redirects are the alternative names of the countries. 132.234.229.241 (talk) 05:06, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Really? Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 19:14, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Apart from the obvious joke redirect concern, Joseph2302, can you convincingly argue that these targets are the primary topics of the redirect titles? I mean, "Fake America" could mean anything. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 20:53, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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W.O.T.A.N.

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Shake spear

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 07:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mostly implausible search term, people who searched this redirect would most likely be looking for something else. Seawolf35 (talk - email) 22:23, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Testing that hypothesis, I see that the pop-up list of results includes some topics related to Shakespeare—"Shakespeare's sonnets", "Shakespeare authorship question", and "Shakespeare's plays", but the top result is a disambiguation page for "Shake", which doesn't lead to Shakespeare, and other top results are "Shakers", "Shake it Off", Shake it Up, and "Shaken baby syndrome", along with Shakespeare in Love and Shakespeare & Hathaway, which are only tangentially related to the subject. The one topic that significantly does not appear is "William Shakespeare". The results improve slightly if you keep typing "...sp", but still don't bring up "William Shakespeare", just related articles. But oddly enough, if you type a space and then begin with "sp", "William Shakespeare" appears as the second result, between "Shakespeare's sonnets" and the redirect "Shake spear". At which point, the reader might guess that "William Shakespeare" is who they're looking for.
This result argues for keeping the redirect, even though it's likely that many people who see it won't click on it, because "William Shakespeare" appears next to it; without a space, the target doesn't even appear in the list until you've typed "Shakespeare". Even "Shakespear" doesn't bring it up: it brings up a disambiguation page and related topics, but not "William Shakespeare". Of course, by this point the reader is likely to click on the disambiguation page or one of the related articles, and should eventually get to the right article. But "Shake spear" may make that process faster and reduce the number of steps required. So notwithstanding the facts that it's not the most intuitive redirect, and that we've only had it for a week, it should probably be kept. P Aculeius (talk) 15:17, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's also worth noting that search suggestions are only available for some methods of searching for Wikipedia content. Thryduulf (talk) 15:33, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Iron Queen

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Jay 💬 08:47, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not listed at target page, does not appear to be a reference to anything on the encyclopedia. TNstingray (talk) 21:03, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Lactanus

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Roman agricultural deities. Jay 💬 08:50, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not listed at target, and I can't find anything relevant via Google (Lactarius is a variety of fungi, but the spelling is too different). TNstingray (talk) 20:50, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just so, edited my post accordingly. P Aculeius (talk) 03:38, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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